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asciilifeform: if i understand correctly the ad-chumpatron , these 200 will be paid in 'coupon good to buy ads yourself' or other 'iou'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:54 lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:54 lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
mp_en_viaje: there's no argument that this can be done. it's a chumpatron, definitionally : get a buncha chumps gathered around an economically exploitable weakness, you thereby have a negotiable instrument that can thus therefore be sold for money. the argument is that doing this ~is not useful~
asciilifeform: ^ lulzily, for coupla yrs nao, they dun even ~sell~ the proggies, but moved to 'subscription' chumpatron ☝︎
asciilifeform: briefly upstack to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913412 : i find it interesting that the 'vhs' cultural programming is apparently needed, to lubricate the chumpatron. in e.g. 1950s, it was considerably easier to walk out of sovok than '60-70s ( e.g. unguarded border with iran, buncha places ) and for instance in '56 a company of tank men traded their tanks to the hungarians for a map to 'which way is austria', and walked. but ~o ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:54 lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: a++ effective, time-tested chumpatron in 'new world'
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, 'loyal opposition' chumpatron, and somewhat long past its expiration date
Mocky: also, central air units don't feed the chumpatron. room units: huge market constantly turning, repairmen "fixing", "workers" installing, refurbishers
mircea_popescu: rare exceptions, a la http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-mark-cuban/ ; mostly from the early days of the chumpatron
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the basic of the usg chumpatron is this precise process, "very little" -> "very much", ie, he went from 1 beer money to 50`000 beer money. this is growth, yes ?
Mocky: re: ~DELIVER~ right around the fence: there's a lot of zeks employed working around the appleness to make new shiny for the epsilonians. part of the chumpatron
mircea_popescu: it's a whole chumpatron, doing away with your social security & pension funds.
asciilifeform: and asciilifeform suffers from the typical delusion of old people , specifically that it is somehow worthwhile to warn young folx away from obvious chumpatron bear trap.
asciilifeform: seems to be a long-lived chumpatron, like ethertardium
mircea_popescu: the socialist chumpatron is only flavoured ~AT THE INTAKE HOPPER~.
asciilifeform: speaking of current-day cruiseship chumpatron
mircea_popescu: gotta seed the chumpatron neh ?
asciilifeform: 'superlinear' (to continue earlier thread..) chumpatron just about always has this property, of convincing the mark that he 'got something over' the orig perp
asciilifeform: not quite. ( i thought about discussion the difference in the orig chumpatron article, but cut it ) : there are , to borrow from algorithmics, 'linear' and 'superlinear' chumpatrons
asciilifeform: picture a chumpatron where 'you gotta have THIS here magic chip to mine...'
a111: Logged on 2014-09-20 18:07 asciilifeform: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-navrozov-moments.html << linked from above, mr mold's explanation (written presumably before the chumpatron re-swallowed him, this time - for good.)
mircea_popescu: best construction i can put on it is, "closest pantsuit can come to saying chumpatron operator wanted".
asciilifeform: certainly not chumpatron that soldiers right-along as ever before, without even oil changes.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: thus far i can’t escape the suspicion that rack rental is fundamentally same type of chumpatron as box rental
mircea_popescu: but yes, in principle a chumpatron op shouldn't be losing money, seeing how they translate into reality an ideal good : the disenfranchising of idiots.
asciilifeform: ain't as if the chumpatron ops are losing own money
mircea_popescu: very biologically-aware chumpatron.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 15:14 mircea_popescu: the hanno boecks always work in the same cycle. feeder phase where they "seem reasonable" and chumpatron phase where they shed the half-hour-horizon idiots who bought it.
mircea_popescu: the hanno boecks always work in the same cycle. feeder phase where they "seem reasonable" and chumpatron phase where they shed the half-hour-horizon idiots who bought it. ☟︎
phf: chumpatron is from "lohotron" where loh is a chump, it's a word play on "lototron" which is a lottery machine
asciilifeform: the perfect academitron is the hot-fusion reactor -- eternal 'but if only we make it 10% bigger!' chumpatron
mircea_popescu: you know, chumpatrons are a thing, yes, but there's no 0 cost extraction. there's plenty of chumps who, while carrying nonzero chumpatronium, are also worth below 0 on the chumpatron raw materials market.
asciilifeform: orcs just pour golden toilet, and prop up western 'bank' chumpatron.
asciilifeform: ( i could be wrong about this, but yc seems to be quite the same chumpatron today as it was decade ago )
mircea_popescu: however it is telling that the leavers all seek the same thing - and it isn't the city per se. it's just "self-realization" ie, the opposite of the above alienation. essentially, they seek to not be chumpatron engineers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is not clear to me that a chumpatron operator has to experience any more 'alienation' than a pig farmer. the latter does not particularly care how pigs remember his work. nor the chumpatronist -- how the chumps remember.
pete_dushenski: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uGZQFEhpmzE/maxresdefault.jpg << prototypical chumpatron
mircea_popescu: that's, i suppose, the actual point here : that while building chumpatrons ~is~ feasible ; and in many actually encountered circumstances it ~is~ productive ; nevertheless a chumpatron is not a tank. not merely by coincidence of design, like a spoon is not a fork, but could pass for a fork in a bind. a chumpatron is not a tank fundamentally, nor could ever be a tank of any kind to any degree, much like a stove can't cool your
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd suspect this is actually the main entry intake for botnet chumpatron.
asciilifeform: i still do not fully grasp the intricate chumpatron that is chinese trade with usa
asciilifeform: but with the physical props of the chumpatron.
asciilifeform: 'renovations' is a chumpatron second only to the real estate scam, in usa
asciilifeform: https://ico.iconomi.net << hot! nyooo! ethertronic chumpatron: 'ICONOMI provides an opportunity for investors looking for high profits, not possible in the old economy. With newly developed financial instruments, ICONOMI will drive new investors and fresh capital into decentralised economy.'
asciilifeform: i see 'coloured coin' as a fundamentally distinct type of chumpatron, 'let's monetize blue Turbo chewing gum wrappers!1111' 'and oh btw i totally don't have a shoebox full of blue'
asciilifeform: gmail is a very characteristically american chumpatron - 'we will fart and fart and encourage others, and then sell you bottle of clean air'
asciilifeform: reminds me of mavrody's 'mmm' chumpatron
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: alludes to a largely undocumented insurance chumpatron of unknown size, hence link.
asciilifeform: but i suspect that ~all american 'nonprofits' operate some variant of this chumpatron.
asciilifeform: but i actually have nfi if that particular chumpatron is still rollin'. all i ever knew of it was from the mr mold film linked earlier.
asciilifeform: one obvious possibility is that he had second thoughts re pushing the tor chumpatron.
BingoBoingo: Question of the day, how did this man not blow all his money on chumpatron before getting 2.5 acre yard https://archive.is/MeYnF
asciilifeform: in so far as i can tell from my pit, they only need usd, and only need it because of an elaborate chumpatron which encompasses ~everyone
asciilifeform: BUT was restructured as a chumpatron some time quite recently (90s?)
asciilifeform: the third type, included here for completeness, is 'spam school', a straight chumpatron perpetrated largely on uppity proles. formerly cornered by places like 'strayer' but now the big boiz are expanding into the market.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 08:51:15; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 08:51:15; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $500 in chips ? for ☝︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 07:24:57; ben_vulpes: my inner thieving gypsy recoils violently against the notion of working someone else's chumpatron
ben_vulpes: my inner thieving gypsy recoils violently against the notion of working someone else's chumpatron ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where's the consumer direct-sale chumpatron in, e.g., apple ?
asciilifeform: aaaand an honest-to-goodness snake oil chumpatron, https://redseal.co/content/how-it-works
funkenstein_: hey thanks. my goal has been to learn something. the testnet chumpatron market looks oversaturated.
ascii_field: aha, so they can start the 40% interest chumpatron going early in life
ascii_field: for all i know, it is a '90s-style chumpatron like the last elbrus !
ascii_field: (what is it called when honest folks end up doing this duty for a chumpatron..)
ascii_field: now ~that~ was a quality chumpatron
decimation: not realizing the complete chumpatron they are entering
decimation: pirate faces difficult choice: be effective and go to jail/enter 'justice' chumpatron or be ineffective and waste time
asciilifeform: if someone is dumb enough to buy into such a chumpatron, why bother serving up anything but pablum
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: musk is different in the sense of not running the usual 'populist' chumpatron
decimation: hire non-idiots who don't want to enter the chumpatron somewhere where feeding real estate isn't the entire economy
decimation: lol because the suing class consists entirely of people who willingly entered the aforementioned chumpatron
decimation: surely at least some of the meat doesn't want to enter the chumpatron
asciilifeform: jurov: classic chumpatron. exists on this side of the atlantic, too
asciilifeform: so that thing may well stay up for a while, and no one ought to be surprised that it features a now-defunct chumpatron
asciilifeform: decimation: the sat folks are attempting a kind of chumpatron where 'let's build tiny sats that last 6 months'
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Pure chumpatron to drain actual Ulbricht supporters of resources << and the fact that kid would sign off on this - pretty disgraceful.
BingoBoingo: Pure chumpatron to drain actual Ulbricht supporters of resources
thestringpuller: anti-chumpatron is the only term i can think of
BingoBoingo: Seriously, this has all the promise of a great chumpatron except every now and then a customer does something worthwhile
decimation: I thought it was well known that anything to do with 'popular music' is essentially nothing more than a marketing chumpatron
funkenstein_: space, the final frontier. to boldly go where no chumpatron has gone before
isaackl: And some fish just love to gamble. I used to do marketing for the mobile-slots chumpatron, humorously people pay real money but they can't cash out real money
punkman: 21 seems like a reasonable chumpatron to me
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: why not? classic, grade-a chumpatron. the actual costs (mains power) are 100% externalized to the chumps.
Pierre_Rochard: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118591 < yup, I’m hoping all of the “blockchain database tech”/“smart contracts”/etc crud gets funneled away from Bitcoin and into $chumpatron ☝︎
decimation: ^warning to people who want to enter the us police chumpatron
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1114937 this is SOP except in chumpatron where mircea lives. ☝︎
ascii_field: trinque: so corporatize the "chumpatron", not the lab, and own both >> see my comment to mircea_popescu >> http://trilema.com/2015/on-owning-things/#comment-113503
trinque: ascii_field: so corporatize the "chumpatron", not the lab, and own both
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/98bac6ee0b3f13d32834aee33295b4a8/tumblr_ngj6scZaxu1u5ddqjo2_400.gif << chump in chumpatron.
mircea_popescu: for the other it's not ok to admit urbit exists strictly because a) yarvin's chumpatron attempt failed just at the time b) usg was looking for a particular tool
asciilifeform: i suppose one can patent a chumpatron.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ancientstuff, before coming up with his current chumpatron he was doing the sort of thing bitpay guy is trying to bury
assbot: Logged on 28-03-2015 00:06:57; asciilifeform: http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/media/2015/03/12/guardian-takes-back-claims-news-report-on-whisper.html << slightly out-of-date mega-l0l. 'guardian' forced to retract piece exposing egregious chumpatron
mircea_popescu: in any case, gotta admire how narrowly the chumpatron works.
asciilifeform: http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/media/2015/03/12/guardian-takes-back-claims-news-report-on-whisper.html << slightly out-of-date mega-l0l. 'guardian' forced to retract piece exposing egregious chumpatron