a111: Logged on 2018-08-24 00:55 asciilifeform: 'we saw you got 10 btc and didn't declare, that'll be 900k plz by tuesday'
billymg: but still unclear to me the best way to do so
billymg: asciilifeform: if you don't mind me asking -- in that thread you made a good case for leaving the reich as soon as possible, but i've also seen threads (can't find right now) where others in the channel have tried to convince you of the same, without any luck
billymg: so i've always wondered what's kept you here
mp_en_viaje: these syndicates have been seriously disrupted over the last five years provides an
mp_en_viaje: insight into the effectiveness of their networks."
mp_en_viaje: extremely incompetent yet extremely ambitious, sorta nonsense that screams for a sound trashing.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 03:49 asciilifeform: arguably it comes down to a stupid choice of profession. the software pseudo-industry only really exists in the reich + its tendrils, afaik.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, it comes down to very entrenched management ineptitude. guy wants to do what he wants to do not what he must do, has complicated, patiently constructed over time (through selection, much like how species appear) list of explanations/justifications.
mp_en_viaje: this coupled with a very myopic perception of outside reality, whereby the closer inconveniences are always overcounted and structural problems systematically discounted yield a very stable situation : he sits in the worst part of the us, complains about it, and will sit there until the day he dies.
mp_en_viaje: consider for elucidation the model of an android, which for our didactic needs is a) very intelligent ; b) doesn't need to physically eat ; c) is required to appear to the common human as a common human.
mp_en_viaje: the process then becomes evident : c requires it to occasionally engage in the activity of eating, but the "whilst some have been driven by organisational necessity, for example, finite resources." problem, to quote the united knelliot, precludes buying kitchen equipment or raw materials.
mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: the net result is a "very intelligent' android that's obviously an android to ~everyone in the biz of spotting androids, but who otherwise claims to be hungry and making eternal plans to restaurant meals that ever justifiedly do not occur.
mp_en_viaje: in the end, it's an all-in bet on reich stability. like everyone else in there.
mp_en_viaje: from an engineering perspective, the strategy's "too tight", fails at what could be described as "useful waste". the sort of activity like going on an aimless walk, or talking to an unknown woman, or playing a few rounds of three card monte with some guy on the street.
mp_en_viaje: there's a very marked difference between the people who know it's a scam -- and therefore ~NEVER~ indulge and the people who know it's a scam and yet very occasionally indulge. the difference's the former are "well educated" engineers, whereas the latter "
illegal"
mp_en_viaje: (think about the example -- the fellow running it has been doing it for a while, very readily spots that you
mp_en_viaje: ~are aware~ it's a scam. now it suddenly costs him more to figure out wtf you're doing than it costs you to play. sometimes this occurs to him, in which case you sudden;y got a conection in the local underground.)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 17:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, no theorems isn't it. there's that famous case of my driver whom my mother (who was bumming a ride) asked in shock why'd he'd go around playing valet for a 17yo. he said something like "not everyone's a big deal". man had 0 theorems to prove, but also didn't go around deluding himself on the matter.
mp_en_viaje: prikoke == <XRevan86> asciilifeform: I'll stay sceptical for now.
mp_en_viaje: this "sceptical" is very much the same story as afanti's [aka nasreddin] engagedment to teach the local baron's singing in a year, on the theory that "i am hungry now -- who knows what will be in a year". he's skeptical as to the future. you're not, you have a theory as to the future, the difficulties are in the implementation.
mp_en_viaje: engagedment to teach the local baron's singing <-> engagement to teach the local baron's donkey singing. check out the impacted d[onkey].
a111: Logged on 2019-05-10 00:41 asciilifeform: i wonder if phf got to see parade.
phf: buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits
☟︎ phf: it was probably the most engaged of all the celebrations i've seen here. we went to a hookah place, a kind of popular bar/restaurant: the staff were dressed in "military" outfits, there was a bunch of tables full of men eating and drinking vodka, making toasts to the fallen heroes and dead relatives
phf: i didn't bother taking camera with me, because i didn't expect there to be any activity besides the parade, but the city was in full celebration mode
phf: i have a dslr that i got off somebody as debt repayment, which ended up putting me into a silly lock: it's heavy and not something you just grab with you, on the other hand i don't want to buy a smaller camera "since i already have dslr and i should sell it first", but then i also don't want to deal with selling it
phf: i ought to just pick up that sony you've mentioned
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: was considering it at some point. but the idea is for it to serve me, not the other way around.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, what's the proble mwith selling it, put it on ebay for a buck, ship to whoever ends up winning bidding war, done.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 12:10 mp_en_viaje: yeah, exactly why i didn't get a dslr mysle.f
mp_en_viaje: also depends a lot what you do. if you car everywhere, even a tripod in the back may work. if you hands-in-pockets and walk, might even be too bulky.
mp_en_viaje: for me it's a sweetspot of "fits in slavegirl purse".
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 11:48 phf: buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 12:02 phf: i ought to just pick up that sony you've mentioned
mp_en_viaje: it's pretty smart, in that it keeps the marginal value within republican walls.
mp_en_viaje: you were gonna make an inventory at some point, iirc.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz : my ro lawyer came to me ~this sunday~, to return archived papers.
mp_en_viaje: the place he had them stored in, he got just about the time i was leaving. so my box was in the bottom of the pit. "i must've been thinner then", he says, cuz well... couldn't get into there. eventuslly managed to squeeze in, sideways, but then, once got box... couldn't get back out.
mp_en_viaje: had to call his clerk to come from his office, to extract him.
mp_en_viaje: so he went to market, bought materials, rebuilt his storage there.
mp_en_viaje: thus by the time he was knocking at my door ~2pm, he had been working for 8 hours
mp_en_viaje: dood woke at 6am to get my my papers. on a sunday.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, to me it was very amusing because, on one hand, "hey nicoleci , where in chicago do i hire lawyer like this" and on the other hand, HOLY SHIT, it's not just computer programmer who goes to turn down volume and is there for two days rewriting the os.
mp_en_viaje: if you're serious rather than just floating by, every fucking task or thing escalates 4ever
mp_en_viaje: closest to a functional fambly you ever saw, he has some helpers, she has some helpettes, it's like...
mp_en_viaje: as ye olde deckard cain would say, "shtay a while... and listen..."
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
☟︎ diana_coman: they are new ruins! our ruins are newer and shinier than theirs!
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:28 a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
lobbes: went for broke in the reich, no?
mp_en_viaje: yes. but the polar opposite strategy of something that hurt ain' ttherefore gonna work
a111: Logged on 2017-05-24 21:57 asciilifeform: i'd be barfing harder if i hadn't 'seen this exact movie before', with ye olde robot
mp_en_viaje: if it did, all the reaction lesbians and transgenders'd be happy
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905113 << speaking of hands, pizarro, and hopping the fence: so what'd be the plan here? Get a republican hardware shop up and running in uruguay? Or perhaps have a second pair of hands on ground to help with pizarro affairs?
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 17:23 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (i kinda suspect BingoBoingo would do a lot better with a partner on the grounds, tbh) << I suspect similar
lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
☟︎☟︎☟︎ lobbes: hm, yeah, I guess so. Same as in usg; all independent harware shops disappearing
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> how's pizarro doing these days btw << Waiting for alf hands. In the interim about to send invoices.
mp_en_viaje: the idea is of course to foster communities, rather than try and find communities t o exploit.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner ) << Well in their language they call the mains "luz" so it does the lights.
BingoBoingo: Electric utility's headquarters naturally is "Palacio de la Luz"
BingoBoingo inclined to see if bicycle guy can handle this month's Datacenter payment in light of the growing divide between Republican exchange rate and heathen exchange rate
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i got gas stove here. what's wrong with that ?
BingoBoingo: Here they use the tanks inside. The pipe cas network is tiny with little coverage.
mp_en_viaje: luzliest thing in latam, all sorta mini-super
BingoBoingo: I've not dealth with the stuff much here. Habitation module has electric stove built in.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:54 lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
lobbes: I may indeed take some time in the next months to make a trip down there at least. If anything to clear my head and sort some things out (plus, I've never met another Republican in the meat, so there is also that plus)
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> luzliest thing in latam, all sorta mini-super << I believe the sight that most excited ben_vulpes down here was "Supermercado Winn-Dixie"
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Well, if you want beaches November to Early December is the time. Late January on into the summer heat makes the cyanobacteria bloom. Late December to Mid January is the tourist high season.
☟︎ lobbes: growing up near beaches, I got bored of them fast; can take em or leave em. and with my pale complexion the idea of visiting uruguay in the cooler months actually sounds nice
mp_en_viaje: who was talking about living off tourist cunny anyways ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 18:07 whaack: I picked Tamarindo mostly because of the convenience of it being near Liberia and having what I initially wanted: a decent nightlife, surf spots, gringo friendly atmosphere
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: did they have this in your corner of ro ? ( when in bucharest, asciilifeform saw also ruins, and gigantic dead factories, but no torch d00dz , instead all overgrown with vines, trees through roof etc )
diana_coman: well, Romanians basically had the germans imported precisely to build some towns finally so in those terms ruins other than the roman ones are relatively recent anyway.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: unsure about the feedlot part, but Brasil does the Zebu cattle.
BingoBoingo: The Indian kind that takes the heat up there better
BingoBoingo: A number of the policy wank locals find it "problematic" Uruguay's beef is more expensive than Brazil et al's beef completely neglecting Uruguay's beef sells as the premium product since Argentina fucked theirs up.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, tbh sounds like cattle laundering scheme.
mp_en_viaje: get veals, feedlot in brazil, export to uruguay, keep 3-6 months, bucher and sell as uy non-feedlot.
BingoBoingo: Supposedly the imported cattle are going to be sold domestic market only, but the fact it so very obviously sounds like a cattle laundering scheme makes the idea retarded.
BingoBoingo: Brazil is roughly on par with the US when it comes to such agricrimes.
BingoBoingo: "Chicken in every pot" What the fuck did the pot do to deserve a chicken
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, you gotta get a gram by prescription, feedlot can get literal tonne.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-07 11:21 mircea_popescu: ay by the industries of Catalonia and the Basque Country. For Spain to be made healthy, they have to be destroyed. The German Chief of Staff Wolfram von Richthofen listened thunderstruck then recited to Mola all the reasons why it was madness to destroy a countrys industrial base, telling him that I have never in my life heard such idiocy
a111: Logged on 2014-07-07 11:23 mircea_popescu: mola wanted his sons to go riding in a field where pretty girls labored with their hands forever.
a111: Logged on 2012-11-19 07:25 mircea_popescu: "the end of human suffering can never be a policy goal because the easiest way to achieve it is to just kill everyone"
a111: Logged on 2019-05-11 22:39 asciilifeform: i wouldn't bother 'recapping' a 100bux konsoomer board, typically