a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 17:09 asciilifeform: apeloyee: fg is a very unusual device, in that you can actually put, e.g., terabyte of known input into it, and only you know what the half-GB that ought to come out, is, there is not physically room inside for a secret crib sheet of that size
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 17:17 asciilifeform: but in principle apeloyee is right, one could make a 'page swapped' tile of 'ice's.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 17:18 asciilifeform: possibly even use it perversely to perform certain computations quickly.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 23:07 asciilifeform: '“Due to network congestion and manual processing, we have closed ticket payments using cryptocurrencies — Hopefully, next year there will be more unity in the community about scaling and global adoption becomes a reality.' << lol, theywontfuckingyield(tm)(r)
mircea_popescu welcomes further clueless derps to step on the rake, by all means.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 23:19 trinque fully expects to live to hear the explanation for this cuckery reduced to "they sat down too much, oh and plastic"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 23:33 trinque: also in batman, "my parents are dead!!11!", also shows up a lot in disney garbage. interesting how art does its thing whether they producing meant to or not.
mircea_popescu: but if it shat out sha(input + salt) you wouldn't know.
mircea_popescu: alright, i will now proceed to "rng" your lines. starting with above : 21ec922676d4145fbcbc4e1d05436e31ffc45b0b6b30c38f3397840a2111282640ab321b906a9d911af757a3a6b550e8fc9aaffc9089a1ca881d980f60617c9b
mircea_popescu: 5e27bfa2124fc47579899d8cc25c46c01ddb4c7c9a67387a2d6167c4576e11e07b692aa8045c01ab4ee635cd37fb82cf1dd1e84d4579265ff0c0a4236a9a8025
mircea_popescu: 32b05e6f90abf11865f57021a91e335d4593d2983d52daa4d1c0a6d5ae4acd491628cbc71a52187efd48427315dd2b70cf645ac126ae78127aa31aec6619cdb2
mircea_popescu: 58acc2f7a255c650c156d9fbc20248a7814a2458ce2da98c115408d5497cd78d6d57759a37c2705762bf6ee03f7af8ae3a187c2f4d3715e3abd30ffe66837656
mircea_popescu: 71354e3ac7ae3a1529870fc90e287f7f67d75dee11cf90827fe93a94e4c2cc2fb5bcf81dcf0a650b7491d1de9b7b3b4f9453a06380179fe3d437717b93092b24
mircea_popescu: i'm just going by what you said ; yes it's unrelated to what actually happens, but that's your fault!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 17:09 asciilifeform: apeloyee: fg is a very unusual device, in that you can actually put, e.g., terabyte of known input into it, and only you know what the half-GB that ought to come out, is, there is not physically room inside for a secret crib sheet of that size
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 01:09 mircea_popescu: (sha512 line+"hurr", should be enough for everyone).
mircea_popescu: let's just say that this "need at least 1 bit of blackbox per tb of arbitrary input" view is, sadly, not how it works.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform omfg stop spewing, jesus christ. you said A STUPID THING. i ~asked~ you whether you mean the stupid thing. you CONFIRMED. i showed you why the thing you said is the stupid thing. you're now on the 25th line of "oh no really, unrelated item". never you fucking mind fgs and test righs and whatnot. the original proposition, as stated, was broken.
mircea_popescu: there's no such wonder in nature as the fabled "no room inside to blackbox". if only there were, yes. but there isn't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha! finally, i guess i shoulda read all them lines. so then!
mircea_popescu just ate his pot of beans. shall i recount how it came to be ? if anyone's cookingcurious...
mircea_popescu: it's just about inconceivable how much concrete vibrates.
mircea_popescu: the vinyl siding things, i've never measured. but concrete is basically a sponge of any energy -> low freq vibration.
mircea_popescu: if you're sensitive to it, wouldn't surprise me if a cork shadowing you would be perceivable.
mircea_popescu: ro cannonical is "rapirea din serai", ie, kidnapping sabine scene
mircea_popescu: "This is obviously just my opinion but if your buying anything now your literally throwing money down the drain. It doesnt matter how high the value might get its more of how low will it get and everything is clearly headed down." << 2014 aussie wisdom re btc.
mircea_popescu: "active in the cryptocurrency space", what happens when you're not part of bitcoin but like rubber chicken.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fwiw, the pantsuit attempt to "counter fake news" by making five trillion of these worthless medium shits is quite amusing.
shinohai: Yet still can't conceive that it is game over for altcorn
phf: lucy was lulzy, about 10-15 minutes worth watching and then it goes completely off rails, and like some kind of psychedelic train keeps rolling through landscape out and away.
mircea_popescu: the early part, up until the passports wank, could have worked as part of a different film. woman can act, if only she weren't caught in the pantsuitwank she could have had a career.
phf: right, it's johansson opposite of choi min-sik
mircea_popescu: who the fuck washes blood off hands with perrier water poured out of a bottle...
mircea_popescu: has a certain purely-cinematic surrealism to it, like ye olde stories of orcs in sweden burning the parquet for cooking fuel.
shinohai: I only watched the movie for dat ass
phf: yeah, i thought that was lulzy, but at least it doesn't ~only~ have a cheap explanation
mircea_popescu: so good, in fact, it seriously threatens my ideas of "best", which... i'm old, i've seen everything, i had given up hope.
phf: i have a backlog of excellent movies, but i've quarantineed myself, so instead of regular movie knights figured i'll see whatever trash
mircea_popescu: he seriously is going around cursing the insufkfkichientkths kkonsonathsts of ttttthis llang isnt he
mircea_popescu: we're the nights of the round table, our beets are formidable!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i also pronounce various such. why the fuck not, "it's there" right ?
phf: i got nothing, though i blame lucy. if nothing else the movie clears your head out of any kind of thoughts
mod6: So I have an experimental patch here that applies right on top of release version 99994 of my vtron. ONLY use this in a testing capacity - the contents of the patch are subject to change at any time.
mod6: thanks, let me know if questions/comments/etc.
mod6: oh, I should maybe also say, one thing that was added as more of a debugging feature was the 'press-path' or 'pp' command. Which will dump out the exact press path to be used from a given head.
mod6: This may be removed before release. Flow still works as it previously did, just is no longer used in press.
mod6: correction: flow is not used to ~feed~ press operation. still used to ensure that the HEAD is within the flow set.
mod6: death("HEAD: $press[1] not found in flow\n") if !grep /^$press[1]$/, @flow;
mod6: Going back to the issue exposed by the eucrypt mpi_fix_copy_incr vpatch, you can see now that the press path is calculated by including all of the given HEAD's antecedents recursively.
mircea_popescu: aand in other trilema antiqua, "Your job is to name the source of the image above. Whoever first gets it correctly will receive 1 Bitcoin in prizemoney!"
deedbot: organdnor voiced for 30 minutes.
organdnor: ever had a really bad feeling about something?
organdnor: Terminator 2 scared the living shit out of me when I was a fucking young un
organdnor: I'm not making this up, no exaggeration I'd lie awake at night in the dark and just visualize those two red robot eyes mercilessly coming forward to dismember me with its steel organs
mircea_popescu: kinda why the whole "too young to watch movie" trope exists, kids do that.
organdnor: I am fully convinced as of this moment that Skynet exists
organdnor: the self-educating neural network which Powers the terminators and allows them to access time travel for their assassination requirements
organdnor: this shit isn't science fiction anymore
organdnor: it's going down and nobody gives a fuck nobody puts their phone down nobody gives a fuck this shit could be a matter of years away we're all independent ideas thoughts being poor thinking things that shit's not going to be allowed it's on top of us right now and nobody gives a fuck
organdnor: you olde as am i? i dunno in which pop culture vernacular to best align the references
organdnor: if you Minds can't even figure the fuck out anything about LSD and the supernatural / paranormal you think just turning this shit over to a fucking robots going to end well?
organdnor: I have no idea how to speak Italian but the cost of Concordia something like a mother fucker and that was a big fancy boat piloted by a big fancy boat pilot that shit didn't work out
organdnor: im learning to talk into my borg-transferral module, beg pardon on bad grammar
trinque: the naked shame of loneliness, eh?
organdnor: I'm on the edge of retiring for social media so I thought I'd stick my head into a few more holes and Polk about to see if there isn't any last bit shore shreds of Hope remaining or if it isn't completely
organdnor: voluntary loneliness if that may be so
organdnor: fuck yeah there is when everyone's a fucking retard
organdnor: I'm on the board of the friends of Gettysburg
mircea_popescu: organdnor that "I" dun mean much currently. who are you, what do you do, etc.
organdnor: deep philosophy mr. popescu deep philosophy
organdnor: I can't pound these marathon miles in this fucking cold shit so I got to sit around the shit up my ass
organdnor: which is strange but im looking for AI contact or some such science fiction malarkey. is vexual code or flesh?
mircea_popescu: just some dood used to spew meaningless nonsense until getting devoiced.
organdnor: you ever heard of rokos Basilisk my presumably educated friend?
organdnor: well I have no problem with being devoist, banned, down voted, ignored, denied, mocked, ridiculed, etc ad infinitum
mircea_popescu: try making sense, for a change. who are you. what do you do. start from there.
organdnor: im Chris, i work in a sort of unlicensed pharmacy
mircea_popescu: ie, you're chris the cryptocurrency drugdealer/junkie ?
organdnor: I have no knowledge of crypto nor any cryptocurrency possession
mircea_popescu: !!rate organdnor chris, the guy whose friend who's not him is the cryptocurrency drugdealer/junkie.
organdnor: this has been "real.". about a third of the channel know me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the scary thought is, "i wonder if naggum'd have fared any better".
mircea_popescu: i always thought bbs is what people too poor to afford irc used.
trinque: on second thought, lets not go to efnet. 'tis a silly place.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 17:49 mircea_popescu: i suppose if we get tired of freenode we move to... jollo o.O
trinque: I'm just making monty python jokes over here
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, where's the logline where you say you'd love nothing more than to put diamond plate flooring in everywhere ?
a111: Logged on 2015-06-11 14:44 asciilifeform: if i lived alone, would probably have treadplate put in. as such, wooden floor. only difference in decor accounted for by pet.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13853.12, vol: 14787.14062946 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13871.0, vol: 50525.91930146 | Volume-weighted last average: 13866.9518958
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: To point fingers and laugh at the combination of Ethereum + SSL
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let bb know also, lest he despair in the orc wastes.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
knubie: least it was an easy job.. =)
knubie: asciilifeform: just a random, and heard about a funny story, so decided to join...
☟︎ deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 1 by 1 connections.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 03:14 lobbes: !!rate Birdman 1 valued customer
lobbes: Ah I think I fuzzily recall that from los registros
BingoBoingo: In developments thus far, the responsiveness of the current accountant has been a disappointment, an independent accountant has been consulted, and getting ready for an adventure to a less soviet bank.
BingoBoingo: Major props go to the girl who manages the coworking space for reading between the lines what took explicit repetition for the accountant.
ben_vulpes: yes im sure they had gps waypoint following over the counter in the eighties
ben_vulpes: note that the russkis only nailed the birds because flying too high
ben_vulpes: the asymmetric warfare will continue until the golden toilets are really actually useless
ben_vulpes: doesn't have to be that high to get a lock now does it
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 02:03 asciilifeform: 'Sort-of like the colonial Europeans' expectation that someone firing a weapon necessarily speaks French, or Spanish, or English, or some sort of civilised language. Because otherwise... where did they get the human weapon! Goblins don't craft weapons. '
ben_vulpes: for travel, yes, sure, but drop down to the treeline on approach like a human wouldja
trinque: asciilifeform: possible the process that generates that site is upset. I'll look.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: classic range/dynamic control tradeoff
trinque: lobbes: your ratings are present in deedbot, just looks like that site isn't updating. thanks for pointing it out.
ben_vulpes: i suppose the latter factor is more accurately control bandwidth
ben_vulpes will readily admit to being a fan of the petrol quadcopter
☟︎ lobbes: trinque np! Thanks fer checkin'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 03:58 a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 18:21 asciilifeform: lobbes: does this mean that you can mirror the whole zip collection nao ?
lobbes: Versus a troo 'www mirror' where you'd just download from website (trying to avoid this route)
trinque: ha this walks right back towards the republican-www thread.
trinque: lobbes: sounds pretty cool.
lobbes: I figure benefits are: no need for 'username/password ' www-login crapola. Also no need to host ALL the zips at once on my VPSen. Can just jettison files on-deman from my archiver craptop to VPS
trinque: got the wotsite rebuilding right now.
trinque: tomorrow I'm gonna have a nice uninterrupted project day, got the girl sent off with girlfriends
trinque: I think I'll get that www regenerating piecemeal in reaction to db changes rather than giant rebuilds at interval, then give the wallet some attention
trinque: I know an account history command is in high demand; that's at the top of the stack.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 16:09 knubie: asciilifeform: just a random, and heard about a funny story, so decided to join...
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 18:52 asciilifeform: hey, the 'we dun need to win, all we gotta do is print in nyt front page that we did' can carry on right up until the turks come over the city walls
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 16:18 asciilifeform: pretty strong moth paint cacodaemon outgassing, even to an old entomologist's nose
mircea_popescu: they got themselves a "culture war" right in the cunt, and it was sensitive and "beyond reach"
mircea_popescu: fucking retard. the only bad thing is his ugly face and the idiocy he represents.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 22:29 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : femen, the "ukrainian" organisation is selling shit priced in dollars via 2checkout.com, the columbus ohio us corp.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 22:38 mircea_popescu: teh very respectable southern poverty law center. and i bet you bitcoin to donuts they didn't actually pay jack for it, either.
mircea_popescu: funny how they never seem to remember who is "the government" whenever ~they~ go around messing with it. how about bad guys === usg don't go around using mnuchin as a hand puppet to finance their bad deeds ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 17:33 ben_vulpes will readily admit to being a fan of the petrol quadcopter
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 17:43 lobbes: To come back to this question, would alf (or anyone) use a system where you could submit a plaintext list of URLs to bot, and then a few mins later bot would PM you with a link for download? >>
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737464 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dinamo coils heavy. and you mean off the shelf what, 10cc engine ?
mircea_popescu: let's get back to it. a) can i buy 10cc engine, off shelf ? b) dinamo needs coils, makes it heavy.
mircea_popescu: turns out i actually misunderstand the limits of materials!
mircea_popescu: well, a 300 gram 750 W engine totally can make a chopper fly.
mircea_popescu: in fact : 750W at 50% conversion can provide a lot of lift -- if the whole thing it's embedded in is 1kg, your energetic expenditure per meter lift is not even 10J. can do 75m/s theoretically.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno now why i thought the limit is a degree of magnitude higher on both energy and size.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: see, cuz if you store a liter and something, that's almost a kg.
mircea_popescu: still misunderstood, but at least now i know wtf i was thinking.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the point stands : useful limit of combustion-powered flying machine is more like 5kgs not the 50kgs i originally imagined.
ben_vulpes: ah that's where the moth scent line came from
mircea_popescu: the proposal is nothing less than to have identified the exact point in history where the pantsuit forked off the chain.
mircea_popescu: feudalism was 100% republic, entirely existing as relationships between people, with no regard to anything -- not to the herds of cattle, of any kind, nor to land or weirs of fishing or any other nonsense.
mircea_popescu: then the pantsuit centered in rome attempted the bitcoin cash of worms, and it's been going towards building marx's paradise -- a world devoid of any people -- ever since.
mircea_popescu: the venue through which the socialist disaster happened happens to be "reason" in a particular pantsuit reinterpretation -- the bitcoin cash of worms introduced "reasonable" basis for taxation on the basis of "land resources", and from there on this non-reason worked its poison into the whole gamut of idiocy on display today.
mircea_popescu: it shouldn't have been permitted then, as it's been methodically not permitted in this here republic since inception.
mircea_popescu: it's what i heard, "diaphanous, as in, if you're not familiar with the whole tree of medieval history and social theory, the jumps are a little wide".
mircea_popescu: but i dunno what to put in. ie the above three lines -- are already written. what moar!
mircea_popescu: i can't re-write a compendium of feudal history ad hoc ;/
mircea_popescu more than willing to answer q's. but unsure how to proceed without.
mircea_popescu: it was a sad vulnerable moment, incidentally. ever heard ye of hugh "magnus" (ie, le maisne in french, literally, "lesser born") ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: brother of sitting king of france, went on crusade BECAUSE SAW MOON ECLIPSE.
mircea_popescu: literally, that was his thought process, "o look, astronomical phenomenon ergo i buy a car now."
mircea_popescu: so he ends up shipwrecked in the lands of anna's father, alexios. you know the whore, anna, yes ?
mircea_popescu: ok. and the father takes them in hand and rapes them around discreetely, yes. you know, like us presidents are invited at banquets but "can't go there sir".
mircea_popescu: without an army, or any resources, or you know, the forethought to have at the very least packed up that eclipse for later, hugh understands the precarity of his position, and so is a great supporter of the byzantine king.
mircea_popescu: and he tries to sell this to godfrey of bouillon, who was a lord at the time. this doesn't mean "rich" or "powerful" or any pantsuit nonsense of today, trying to explain exactly why it shouldn't be the case you even try.
mircea_popescu: no, godefroy was naught else than a man. as per that shaw description, "the panache" etc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and godefroy says, "look at you, fool, you had your own sovereign crown (hugh was an earl, at the time this was sovereign) but had to come here and became a slave for it, and now try to sell me on it as if it were some great progress ?"
mircea_popescu: to which hugh explains something like "well, what's done it's done, what can we do"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 20:13 mircea_popescu: "# We use c=0.005 which has been experimentally found to be optimal in processing time for common PC under MS Windows and values of k of practical interest. A different c value may be desirable for use in different computing environments." << check it out asciilifeform ! IT IS SATOSHI ALL OVER AGAIN. why. WHY!!!
mircea_popescu: for what it's worth i see no difference whatsoever between the above eclipse of reasoning and say "if i make it what i think it should be -- it crashes".
mircea_popescu: but anyway, re taxation : item as a notion didn't even exist in 1100s. payment across hierarchy had an entirely different substance.
mircea_popescu: "taxation" is what pantsuit rendering of homage is, so as to depersonalize it.
mircea_popescu: only in that it's always easier to be female than male.
mircea_popescu: that's the great advantage of the homosexual bottom : even a broomstick can fill it.
mircea_popescu: took what, 500 years to westphalia, "nation state" ie, "the LAND is the item, people just ants on it"
mircea_popescu: but the notion of a countCY, and OF X!!!, as opposed to THE count himself is very much redolent of the rotl.
mircea_popescu: which is why republican lordship is personal whereas pantsuit notion of peerage is "location based".
mircea_popescu: the system which built rome is : in the winter we sit around , in the summer we go rape the idiots, take their shit, melt it down, split it in equal trophies and give one to each man.
mircea_popescu: it's unclear altogether if late rome had a system at all ; this is a matter open to much scholarly debate.
mircea_popescu: well, it was said in these logs and it's still true that rome is well summarized by observing some people built some benches in a park somewhere and spent a millenium thenceforth sorting out who should sit where on them.
mircea_popescu: in this sense sure, original rome as the patrician class with its clientelar syste was "checked" ie infected with doom-ruin by the imbecile plebs, resulting in the creation of the plebs tribune (ironically, the ~reason~ later emperor was sacrosanct -- he was also the tribune of plebs)
trinque: there'll be a brief wallet outage starting now. doing some network fiddling.
mircea_popescu: so if you prefer the reference, there will be no lenatus compromise and no fucking lex publilia.
deedbot: topor voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: but note that the original reason there (the romans ~actually needed~ the plebs, to fight the volsci / latins) is no longer present. we absolutely and emphatically do not need mok-shen's "common people" for any purpose.
mircea_popescu: (the original "i'm a little bit country / i'm a little bit rock'n'roll" fairitale was told by lenatus to the plebs of 500bc, btw.)
topor: trilema&bitcoin fan
deedbot: Covale` voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: also, om din topor, man of the axe, how you say redneck.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect romanian is mostly dedicated to not getting any imported words right.
Covale`: asciilifeform, well of the hundreds of ICOs popping up everywhere these days, so far this one is THE :))
Covale`: mircea_popescu, a friend linked it to me earlier for the lols
mircea_popescu: that's nice. now go read the logs / do useful shit. the lols part is the worst place for kids to start immitating.
☟︎ Covale`: speaking of that, what Linux distro would you generally recommend for... n00bs so to say ?
deedbot: Covale` voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: Covale`: go build your own gentoo box; shed the noob hymen
Covale`: hah, yeah, I looked through the logs and stumbled upon that discussion actually
trinque: ^ wallet maintenance is over, wiring less offensive to the operator
trinque: lmk if anyone has a problem.
trinque: I'm for it, will get done at some point.
trinque has a nice command-lib where it'll go
BingoBoingo: And it turns out the State's bank is the far less soviet option.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because of the my passport handicap up to three days will be lost to FACTA. After that another 2-5 business days and they I should be banked.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Also the datacenter came up with a connection for importing SuperMicro servers
BingoBoingo: Venuezalan translator girl I've been taking spanish lessons from (300 pesos or ~10 USD/hr) was paid 20 USD/hr for translation services by peeling bills off of the gangsta roll.
BingoBoingo: Venezualan girl was very shocked by how comparatively pleasant this experience was with her other local banking experience given how much the locals verbally shit on it
BingoBoingo: Gloss and semigloss exterior paints were the single worst smelling class of products at the Home Despot.
BingoBoingo: Gloss and semigloss exterior paints were the single worst smelling class of products at the Home Despot.
lobbes: ""Dragan said. "The old code … was very difficult to understand, and I feel like that was unfair to the students to give them a document that wasn't easy to read and hadn't been updated since prior to their birth.""
☟︎ lobbes: "Oh noes!! May have to LEARN something in University!"
lobbes: This reminds me of a quote somewhere in logs, went something like "US education just hands kids a deck of 'beliefs', 'principles', 'truths', etc; says: pick one or two. Battle each other like in ur pokemans"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 20:53 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because of the my passport handicap up to three days will be lost to FACTA. After that another 2-5 business days and they I should be banked.
mircea_popescu: local company is a person in law ; if item you have is not a person in law, you have not registered a company ; if it is -- IT opens bank acct.
mircea_popescu: but in no case is your passport involved in the workings of this item.
mircea_popescu: to reiterate -- whole point of the entire exercise is to publicly, paifully BREAK the usg system, and to humiliate the united states government in the process.
mircea_popescu: an "alternative funnel" is not an acceptable substitute for breakage.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 22:40 asciilifeform: and in particular 'In light of recent hate bias incidents on the campus, the committee decided to remove "Intentionally and substantially interfering with the freedom of expression of others" as a listed prohibited conduct as it sends the "wrong message," said Director of Student Conduct Andrea Goodwin.'