ben_vulpes: latest useless office equipment acquisition: BLACK POST IT NOTES
adlai blames the image similarity neural networks for reading his mind wrt the language (since half the channel probably didn't notice anything wrong with the first one)
ben_vulpes: want to scrawl on black post its in black ink with me?
adlai: !google paint it black
ben_vulpes: today i cover staff desks in black post it notes with pentagrams drawn on them
adlai adds this to the list of "music i know thanks to violent video games"
adlai: is it black which soaks all other inks, or do you have some sorta gouach that can paint over it?
danielpbarron: i imagine it's to go with those metalic colored sharpie markers
ben_vulpes: the ink black is somewhat more light absorbent than the paper black
adlai: draw pentagrams in the middle of stack, return to office supply warehouse, rinse, repeat
adlai: woah ben_vulpes since when does the IFF have its own cloakmasks?
phf: we paint the roses red, we paint the roses red
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you just don't understand how the world works
adlai: ben_vulpes: don't worry someday the kid might grow up
adlai: mircea_popescu: suggested marginal revenue stream for qntra - affiliate links in articles referencing bitbets
adlai: (authors should not get to pick the links... or maybe you disagree?)
adlai: ie authors would earn through shareholder revenue (or increased share price)
adlai: ben_vulpes: btw thank you for gladness. and i'm sorry that i tried unsolicited to sell you btc via pm.
adlai notes that ben_vulpes was wise to refuse, given timing & retrospect
adlai has to as well, but actually has to ~work~ beforehand, believe it or not
adlai: everybody needs a server they wouldn't be caught dead on
adlai has not picked one yet
adlai: but at least i lose to better people on this one
BingoBoingo: K, the bitbet affliate link thing probably has a place, but likely as part of a larger monetization effort when that time comes. I'm uncertain on this matter at this moment.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00057026 = 6.0448 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: adlai: A position paper is liek the vocabulary suggests, a paper that "advances" a particular political position
adlai: tl;dr: the only place where 'Blockchain' is camelpitalized is in the title
adlai: paper is about Bitcoin, and dozens of hypothetical bitcoins (lowercase)
adlai: capitalizes Bitcoin (and upon its popularity) everywhere.
adlai: so i'd actually say it's a move in the right direction, regardless of the authors's's position
adlai: but definitely tl;dr,able at a whopping 7,243 shares
gribble: Current Blocks: 398936 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 231 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 10 hours, 52 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 4.60383615 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 92 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 46.60687115 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 9 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000105 / 0.000105 / 0.000105 (500 shares, 0.05 BTC), 7D: 0.000105 / 0.000105 / 0.000105 (500 shares, 0.05 BTC), 30D: 0.00007821 / 0.00009027 / 0.00013 (4600 shares, 0.42 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00055323 / 0.00056592 / 0.0005748 (3968178 shares, 2,245.68 BTC), 7D: 0.00054156 / 0.00056108 / 0.0005748 (35084807 shares, 19,685.59 BTC), 30D: 0.00051942 / 0.00056002 / 0.00060199 (97993405 shares, 54,878.76 BTC)
adlai: !s from:mats s.mpoe
adlai: huh, scalpl is roadkill too. shame.
adlai: trinque: you don't wanna see mine!
trinque: the default account is the one deedbot was using
trinque: I shall back up the wallet for dissection and rescan, I suppose
trinque: orifice to shit txn into and way to find out the balance of any address at the current state and you're good.
adlai: (format () "~$" (reduce '+ (reduce 'mapcar '(abs cdr) :from-end t :initial-value (btc:listaccounts 0 t)))) -> "15863.10"
adlai has never rubbed more than two digits together at once, with his own grubby paws
adlai: asciilifeform: beneath my very fingers.
adlai: ahh, the btc package
adlai digs up the shithub
adlai: old turd dries hard
adlai actually wrote out ~4 of these rpc wrappers by hand before fuckiting
adlai: the lisp code would've been neat if the damn powerrangers could keep their helptext syntax uniform! /rant
adlai: who says i hain't?
adlai: mircea_popescu: we are moping about 'account'ardation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30292 @ 0.00057026 = 17.2743 BTC [+]
trinque: mircea_popescu: nope, 0.08 left; wallet is just fucked
adlai: asciilifeform: patches are a ways aways. i'm still figuring out this whole C++ mess... last time i dealt with these shits i had MSVC+CLR to back me up, never touched the keyboard. click click click.
adlai: shiva is an A1 tease but i still need to build the damn thing!
adlai: untrained gardner could also build systemd
adlai: well, i'm overbullshitting my familiarity with build systems... but the fact that i can run make doesn't mean i'm benefitting from any of the Vification.
adlai has unfinished business, with people that pay him btc; trb hacking falls under play.
adlai: you're making my screen blush
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.adlai.1:93691b4dafa436d9b36c978ed42a65f3415b9c984b90038e7a0e0ba5e0a88316
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for adlai with note: alf's bff. nolispo.
adlai: so i 'promised' a dude a blockchain spamatron, and he gave me 3btc after insisting that we not sign anything, not even a gpg contract
adlai: and i feel really bad that it's not working yet. thus, i go back to my 'uranium mine'
adlai in his own defence asked the guy to ~specify~ what exactly the fuck he expected this thing to do... "you're the technical guy, that's your job"
adlai: fwiw it's a blended average
trinque: adlai: there is a cost to accepting stupid money
adlai: trinque: you should collect the deedynickles, i haven't swept in a while
adlai: then you get some income too
adlai: ehehe what do you take me for, a price signal? this message not directed at anybody in particular. goodnight #b-a
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pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408267 << /me can't believe how much worse this exact phenomenon has become in just the last decade. i was in the new engineering 'innovation centre' on campus today (mostly materials engineering) and every single last motherfucking dude was straight off the boat from india or china. i don't think there are two white dudes per floor at this point.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 15:25:47; mircea_popescu: but, fortunately for it, the us has nothing to offer. it'd be an active safari grounds for live slaves, if the women weren't generally ugly and universally fat. it is being raided to shit by indian/chinese people for whatever shreds of prestige it may have left, tho from what i hear us diplomas are becoming 2nd rate in beijing these days.
adlai: trinque: whence 1PUWDF7uVmJ57KuGipXLod2d6RqWaPETFW ? txid 3541d2b8b28c680ff287130aa2e788f056eb87a954f5f95a13f76075b9281199
pete_dushenski: obviously, this afternoon, and the fact that i'd be nutso to enter into a 20-year contract with a non-entity is why i will under no circumstances, and quite to the contrary of 'every is doing it' advice from the whole peanut gallery of well-meaning busy bodies, be starting an 'resp' account (registered educational savings plan) for my kid(s). if they want to go to law or something, i'll pony up, but if i sure as
pete_dushenski: fuck won't be making uni appear to be the sine qua non for adult life that it was presented to me as.
pete_dushenski: that guy, despite apparently not having much of a stomach for money or finance, is a pretty respectable little investor, i'll give him that
pete_dushenski: i'd almost bet against alphago just on his word alone.
adlai: bitcoin is speech, yo
adlai: you know you're busy with less trivial bullshit when you are actually surprised by btcfiat updates in #b-a
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408407 << you don't understand dirigible fantasies. it's like every comic book fan's overactive imagination telling him that 'if i only has x-ray vision i'd get so much pussy'. and then mousy radiologist (as they tend to be, in my experience), asks comicfan 'have you ever seen something with x-ray vision ? i'm not quite sure it's how you imagine.' 'nonsense, that's
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 16:20:50; mircea_popescu: i shall now be quiet while alf, who has never set foot in california, proceeds to explain to people who live there how the place is.
pete_dushenski: just because you're not a ~billionaire~ with x-ray vision, i forgot to mention that part. and if you tell me that you're also a billionaire, that's ok too because there are more parts i haven't mentioned yet!'
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not a photoshop, taken in New England with a camera that sees time 7 years in advance.
☟︎☟︎ pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: 7 years exactly eh ? that'd be on the next jubilee then ?
BingoBoingo: Being chosen often means chosen for bad things.
pete_dushenski: 'there is neither good nor bad but thinking makes it so' (tm) (r)
BingoBoingo: I dunno, member of the tribe seem to have a poor track record when it comes to getting chosen for things by other groups
pete_dushenski: better chosen for 'bad' college football team then not selected to any team at all, neh ?
BingoBoingo: I mean when the choice is polish ovens or not chosen...
pete_dushenski: but even this 'poor track record' is nothing but the regular stressors needed to weed out the truly idiotic from the slightly less idiotic
pete_dushenski: the world can use a good pissing off now and again, like the body can use a little rhinovirus here and there. helps keep everyone fresh.
BingoBoingo: Then there's the whole part where bacon is delicious...
pete_dushenski: because, yes, bacon is fantastic, as are slow-braised pork short ribs
BingoBoingo: But don't you get kicked out of Jewbilee for that?
BingoBoingo: ANd disqualify yourself from pleasing Moses with macaroni pictures?
pete_dushenski: though i do blame kashrut (at least partly) for turning me off shellfish quite entirely. though i suspect that most of it is the unsavoury texture of the shit.
pete_dushenski: i also can't stand the texture of mashed potatoes, which doesn't seem to be derived from scum-sucking bottom-feeders, so i probably shouldn't blame the good book too much
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: if you're a liberal-atheist-spinozist-jewbilee, there's not really anyone to kick you off your 'table for one'
pete_dushenski: so carte blanche is mine as far as diet and the other 'customs' go
BingoBoingo: That's not how the theologists behind south park describe it
BingoBoingo: They were pretty clear. You go to jewbilee to make macaroni pictures to please moses
pete_dushenski: you remember the season ? i can add it to the list of shows i pretend that i'll watch one day
pete_dushenski doesn't think he spends an hour a month in front of 'tv'
BingoBoingo: TV goes behind you to provide background noise
BingoBoingo: pretty sure the episode was simply titled "Jewbilee" though
BingoBoingo: Come on, there's plenty of it. What else do you call the homeless people watching porn on the public terminals if not noise
adlai: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu what's policy on including charts from external sources in bitcoin mining overview qntra articles? eg bitcoinwisdom.com, bitcoin.sipa.be, tradeblock.com, etc
☟︎ adlai: attribution would be given although watermarks scrubbed in anger out of spite
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: the fuck... not ~public~ library life. who the fuck visits those for more than the 30 seconds required to walk to shelf, to checkout, and back out
BingoBoingo: adlai: If you submit an image it might be included, but can't guarantee it would make it in.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I just though since you were in the big city you had that kind with the hobopiss
adlai: BingoBoingo: alrigh,ty
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: o we do, but my evenings are spent in the quiet comfort of my personal residential library, not on the street.
pete_dushenski: two points to anyone who recognises that picture of the library above. (if you'd been, you'd remember it!)
BingoBoingo: If you can't crush people with compact shelving you are wasting floorspace
phf: pete_dushenski: there's a couple of nice libraries in this country too
pete_dushenski: phf: the old cities (nyc, chi, dc) all have at least a few, to be sure
adlai: BingoBoingo: flashbacks, to days scanning barcodes in a lawfirm 'library' off the P3 (that's three floors, in the parking direction)
phf: library of congress obviously, but also all the ivies have magnificent libraries
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: no such thing as waste in a personal library
BingoBoingo: Also real libraries put the desks in cages
pete_dushenski: which, at this point, have exactly the same demo, so i can see it
adlai used this library primarily as dvd rental, preparing his blog's filler material a decade in advance
phf: i used to live couple of blocks away from frank furness library at upenn
BingoBoingo: You need the study cages to have graduate studies
pete_dushenski: phf: from the pics at least it looks rather beautiful. reminds me that the us once had great people building great monuments to culture and success. it's easy to forget that on the detritus-filled web.
pete_dushenski: really, this is every bit as tragic as swapping sons before eating them.
phf: i think philadelphia as a whole is a particularly painful monument to america's past.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: of the dozen or two us cities i've visited in the last decade, i couldn't agree more.
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pete_dushenski: but with no economic pressure to tear down those monuments in philly, they're not going anywhere either. and good bones on a city can always find new uses, even if there are fits and starts between 'ideal' (ie. high cultural) uses.
phf: on one hand you have areas past art museum, which are basically abandoned lands of early american aristocracy. donated to "the people" to take care of, now they exist as ghetto bordering no mans lands.
pete_dushenski: phf: trust me when i saw that it's even worse when the arivistes come rampaging through town in a flurry of nownownow-ism and tear the whole lot down right before your eyes.
phf: on the other hand you have fishtown and north, forther industrial centers (long out of business companies that used to make ship and locomotive engines and such) are now either ghettos or white trash areas.
phf: i agree though, i like that philly is a no mans land, since there's no developers or Control or particularly strong presence of usg.
phf: there are parts by the waterfront where on weekends you can see an assortment of underclasses and weirdos. mexicans fishing, blacks riding dirt bikes, white trash drinking. kind of cool, i'll take that anytime over the overdeveloped DC
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00057019 = 18.8163 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: the whole 'red hot economy' spectacle really isn't as attractive first-hand as it is on paper, at least aesthetically.
☟︎ gribble: Current Blocks: 398954 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 7 hours, 33 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
adlai waits for the sharing economy (bike rental) to make sweet decentralized love with the service economy (relocating to meet expected demand)... lard and lazy pay swole to pump
adlai: beautiful red hot economy, until the guy with the pickup truck shows up (existing bike rental companies do this backwards)
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.kuzetsa.1:9ac617e96d465d1819601564b358240a43e95bb4448ef2bbf9bf7134e0d69286
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for kuzetsa with note: for the voice
kuzetsa: danielpbarron: ok to answer your question legit like... uh...
kuzetsa: my coupling to assbot was always 2nd level before today
kuzetsa: and I think maybe an op or two who uprated me ended up neg-rated by enough people who were 1-degree coupled to assbot or ... IDK really
kuzetsa: it wasn't anything I personally did or caused
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 19:57:26; assbot: Successfully unrated kuzetsa
kuzetsa: <an op or two who uprated me> ~ specifically I mean #bitcoin-otc and #bitcoin ones... at some point I think people in here had a falling out with them
kuzetsa: well yeah, but I think maybe originally I was only able to self-up because of nanotube having uprated me
kuzetsa: the nanotube rating was still there, unfettered or something
kuzetsa: but the other person (for the 2nd point required) was you?
kuzetsa: so very srsly omg damn you (kust kidding) it's all good wew lad
kuzetsa: according to the link you posted (btcalpha) there's zero connecting ratings
adlai: it should just be a bunch of nested plists
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 02:52:19; mircea_popescu: what happened is - we used gribble wot. then gribbe was offline unexpectedly, and its maintainer wasn't talking. he was traveling at the time, as we later found out. nevertheless, for those few days the situation was indistinguishable from an attack and so we made a replacement.
adlai: nice date distrib: 12 10, 13 24, 14 6, 15 0, 16 1
kuzetsa: oh ok yeah I don't use emacs so I don't know wht alist / plist / elist is
adlai: emacs isn't necessary, although it helps to have an editor that understands your AST
kuzetsa: in the vi/emacs debate, I'm in the nano/scintilla camp being clueless about the substance of the argument
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 14:22:28; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every sysadmin loves vi and nano, even. but programming in common lisp in an editor which doesn't automatch parens and autoindent is an example of something i might do in hell
kuzetsa: kuzetsa@yurizoku ~ $ busybox vi
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 20:56:36; asciilifeform: which opens up a rowhammer-like attack vector.
kuzetsa: and then do :q to get out after you're done looking at whatever that's the only command I ever bothered to learn
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 21:07:31; asciilifeform: hey i specialize in uselessly predicting crapocalypses years before they happen.
adlai: kuzetsa: don't take this the wrong way, but you may find the logs interesting for a month or six of logged-time. will save you lots of questions, such as "why all the parens" or "did you really need to write your own darcs"
adlai: obviously this doesn't have to be read in one sitting.
kuzetsa: I don't know what a darc is, and parenths don't bother me either way
kuzetsa: I'm content to remain ignorant
kuzetsa: I just stopped in 'cause danielpbarron noticed I hadn't been around and took the time to figure out what happened
adlai: that's nice of him to do!
adlai wonders whether we'll ever hear back from DrWoT, the PhD-to-be... there is definitely some spinnable bullshit in the wot fork
kuzetsa: adlai: well I read that (skimmed) and couldn't glean any useful heuristic or philisophical insight
adlai: some professions employ jargon, and there's a reason for it
kuzetsa: danielpbarron: lurking in the mostly -- more conversations happen in ##bitcoin in my case because I prefer not to have non-otc / non-trading talks in -otc
kuzetsa: *just lurking in there, mostly -- [...]
adlai: kuzetsa: eventually jargon can wag its dog, shaping the mother tongue more strongly than the other way around
kuzetsa: in ##bitcoin the best conversation I recall lately ... nothing memorable actually
kuzetsa: adlai: I don't disagree, but I don't understand your point either -- idioms aren't my thing :(
phf:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-08-2015#1255346 << not sure if you noticed that 4.4bsd vi had lisp mode (and nothing else language wise). man page claims that some indent commands would actually do proper lisp indentation. sometimes i'd like to track it down and see what exactly the had there..
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 14:22:28; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every sysadmin loves vi and nano, even. but programming in common lisp in an editor which doesn't automatch parens and autoindent is an example of something i might do in hell
danielpbarron: oh wait, who runs double-hash-bitcoin ? I assume this is different from the one gmaxwell or whoever banned me from
adlai: kuzetsa: ahh, i don't have a point.
adlai: i'm just throwing links around and hoping something will stick.
adlai goes back to spam that costs money
kuzetsa: well you highlighted me several times, and even though the content wasn't anything I immediately understood and related to, the friendly tone seemed welcoming and I appreciate that -- the impression stuck, if nothing else :D
kuzetsa: danielpbarron: one of the main reasons I didn't seek to figure out why I could no longer !up is because I'm legitimately a left-wing democratic socialist and knew who bernie sanders was before he announced the POTUS run
kuzetsa: my political views are frowned upon in here by a few people (at times, loudly)
danielpbarron: well I knew who he was too, but I guess that's because I'm in close proximity to Vermont
danielpbarron: yeah and I'm the only one in here that believes the entire Bible
kuzetsa: literalist or do you understand some of it to be metaphorical / superstitious in nature?
danielpbarron: you got any money on sanders to win? there's a bitbet!
kuzetsa: Deuteronomy 23:14-15 ~~ always carry a shovel and be sure to use it to bury your poo so god doesn't step in it ... if taken literally, I'm thinking at best the understanding of germ theory wasn't going to be around for over a thousand years so the beliefs were genuinely held, though not literal
kuzetsa: if taken literally though, god was angry and made you sick
kuzetsa: lack of a modern sense of sanitation wasn't the cause, it was god being angry
kuzetsa: "always carry a shovel and be sure to use it to bury your poo so god doesn't step in it" <<< any translation you want is fine, that's my own paraphrase (I compared several translations for this particular passage, and the meaning is always the same)
kuzetsa: well that's awfully inconsiderate of a deity
kuzetsa: I don't personally believe gods to be that jerk-ish
danielpbarron: Deuteronomy 32:39 'Now see that I, even I, am He, And there is no God besides Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand.
kuzetsa: ah ok, that's out of "The Song of Moses"
danielpbarron: Exodus 33:13 Now therefore, I pray, if I have found grace in Your sight, show me now Your way, that I may know You and that I may find grace in Your sight. And consider that this nation is Your people."
kuzetsa: "Blessing of Moses" too allright
kuzetsa: IDK, the poetry sections of scripture aren't easy for me to take literal in a serious way
danielpbarron: Job 11:11 For He knows deceitful men; He sees wickedness also. Will He not then consider it?
kuzetsa: Genesis 19:26 ~~ But Lot's wife looked back. When she did, she became a pillar made out of salt. <<< like I said, inconsiderate, I can't hardly undersatand the idea of natural disaster being an act of god, and for something as innocent as looking over your shoulder to be cause for death is p much overkill no matter who you are (deity or otherwise)
kuzetsa: killing someone because they didn't do as they were told is pretty dickish
kuzetsa: ... my leftist views here are pretty inflexible
kuzetsa: that's not a thing I believe in
kuzetsa: it's a philisophical / societal / institutional construct, and not legitimate in any way
danielpbarron: the legitimacy is enforced by the better by virtue of him being better
danielpbarron: the losers can complain about this.. and maybe they'll catch a beating for it
kuzetsa: feel free to downrate me or whatever on the way out
phf: it just looks like the issue is not so much that his views are frowned upon, it's that he can't handle opposite opinions
☟︎ danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, do you remember her or did you pick that up from this conversation?
adlai: ahh shit the channel ran out of nice spoons
adlai: ;;later tell kuzetsa what part of trust involves agreeing about bs extraneous to the business in question? nobody will negrate you for bickering, unless that's all you do.
danielpbarron: well i'll probably unrate in a year next time i'm cleaning names out, unless she comes back in the interim
adlai: has anybody actually gone over alphago's play? this thing plays like an intelligent, polite housewife
☟︎ adlai: B is better than A because it'd make black's territory larger if black played, whereas A is basically a wasted move for black
adlai wonders at the degree to which AlphaGo plays against itself ~during~, not between, games
☟︎☟︎ adlai: this at least is an easy technique for crude optimization of nnn play: find your opponent's best move, and play it yourself
ben_vulpes: adlai: at this rate you'll never get that hostmask
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 21:54:38; ascii_rear: ty adlai. my advice is to try for high snr
adlai: "be liberal in what you accept" only works for machine parsers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136600 @ 0.0005647 = 77.138 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 03:22:06; asciilifeform: all of this goes for ben_vulpes also.
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 03:25:09; mircea_popescu: omfg trinque is en route to becoming a prophet.
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 03:26:18; mircea_popescu: income is not prophet.
ben_vulpes: DONNY T TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNNNNNNND
punkman: what's this internetforcefeed cult you joined ben_vulpes
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ben_vulpes: my inner thieving gypsy recoils violently against the notion of working someone else's chumpatron
☟︎ adlai: it's best when chumpatrons symbiose
adlai: remember, leeches feed off general economic 'heat' rather than any single delta-PE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14823 @ 0.00056188 = 8.3287 BTC [-]
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cazalla_: evening, composing a comment bitching on trilema.com in the meantime
cazalla_: had a few, so you know, wine, truth lol
cazalla_: meh, i am just angry as i let my guard down the other day and mentioned to someone that considering suicide is a logical and rational thought in this day and age
cazalla_: fucking idiots called a CAT (crisis assesment team) on me the other day because hey, if you're not enthusiastic to work shitty jobs to buy coke, watch blah blah housewives on tv and want to pay top dollar for plastic shit out of china, well, ya mentally ill
cazalla_: i dunno what day and age, can't be much worse than the current year
mircea_popescu: in other lulz of all time : new argentine govt negotiated a deal with the agros : govt lets dollar go ; agros stop hoarding and sell. the govt let the dollar go. however, for all its posturing, the buenos aires black market turned out to be relatively powerless in face of this, and so from a 8.5 official / 14.0 black market, the liberalised dollar settled at 13.5.
cazalla_: my fault for being stupid enough to figure someone mature enough to think topping yourself is a reasonable thought though
mircea_popescu: this was obvious to anyone who isn't mentally retarded by virtue of being born out of the union of a lazy man and a stupid cow, like every single argentine.
mircea_popescu: consequently - the cash crop agros (soy) got butthurt and still didn't liquidate.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile however, total sales ytd crossed 3bn usd, up 50% from last ytd. why ?
mircea_popescu: if this doesn't prove that it is practically impossible to govern stupid people, i have no idea what would.
cazalla_: mm corn, grew some this summer, not bad.. burned and charcoal that mother fucker in some butter with some 'matoes for breakfast
mircea_popescu: so how's life, other than not being able to find people to talk to.
cazalla_: mircea_popescu, yeah not bad, daughter due in 4 months, kill me now lol
cazalla_: gardening makes life worth living, but winter is coming
mircea_popescu: cazalla_ is all depressed, drinks lots, considers offing self, stumbles through various internet hate sites, ends up in b-a, a year later is head of major btc business, has quit drinking, is all optimistic, decides that internet is not irl, moves on to irl, six months later is depressed, drinks heavily, discusses suicide.
cazalla_: mircea_popescui don't drink shit these days, i've had a bottle of port tonight, but this is a first for months
cazalla_: sounds arrogant for me to say, but most people are stupid
cazalla_: everyone i encounter is stupid
mircea_popescu: sorry mate. you've been touched by the republic. now you're fucked.
cazalla_: still, this place was the best thing to happen to me in 5 years
cazalla_: i dunno what is wrong with my health though
cazalla_: not diabeetus (sorry BingoBoingo lol)
mircea_popescu: i had no idea you had winter in ozland. when did that get imported ?
cazalla_: nothing on my brain according to mri and the cunts who read em
cazalla_: white blood cells up, then back to normal, a few times
cazalla_: just sick of cunts attempting to put my symptoms down to ptsd etc
cazalla_: no, found a dead body or 2 though
cazalla_: once they hear that.. oh it's fucking ptsd, it's depression blah blah
cazalla_: they can't fathom you can be ok with that
cazalla_: they just wanna load up the sympathy and pity because it makes their job easy
cazalla_: ah well, least not dead, expected to drop dead many years ago
cazalla_: well punkman, i've had an mri of my head, neck, cat of head, nothing
cazalla_: yeah, they are fucked, just recruitment for the ward
cazalla_: win or lose, someone gotta die
cazalla_: maybe just pressure, pressing down on me
cazalla_: and anyway asciilifeform, usascwitz won't let cunts like me in
cazalla_: not that i'd visit (or leave the confines of the shores from down under)
cazalla_: asciilifeform, racist americasn dont allow convicts in
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 04:28:05; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not a photoshop, taken in New England with a camera that sees time 7 years in advance.
cazalla_: although tbh i never tried to go offshore, but i figure they dont let people with convictions in despite no prison time
cazalla_: my dreams of full of plane crashes
cazalla_: asian waifu more a copypaste sorta thing
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 04:43:49; adlai: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu what's policy on including charts from external sources in bitcoin mining overview qntra articles? eg bitcoinwisdom.com, bitcoin.sipa.be, tradeblock.com, etc
cazalla: ;;later tell ben_vulpes whats the "hey you" about?
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 04:57:27; phf: i think philadelphia as a whole is a particularly painful monument to america's past.
cazalla: so what would you do mircea_popescu, joe stack the cunts?
mircea_popescu: so far it is not in any sense apparent the problem is with them. what exactly would you have them do ?
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cazalla: well, nothing, can only go so far as explain symptoms
cazalla: but coming back with mental illness doesn't really help or explain anything, i am clearly sane
mircea_popescu: you're not clearly insane, which is the most can be said for anyone.
cazalla: i've already passed the point where if i drop dead tomorrow from whatever it is, so be it
cazalla: but if it were to happen, well, at least i'd like to know it's coming
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you mean to say trilema.com/психушка ?
cazalla: only reason i've pursued these idiot as far as i have
mircea_popescu: but ftr, as i said on trilema : obscure autoimmune problems are both rare and obvious in tissue sample.
cazalla: i can't find the dpaste, but i posted my symptoms in here before
cazalla: sure as fuck isn't aids or schizophrenia
cazalla: well, they claim i am schizo
cazalla: well, i don't, other than i'm not
cazalla: alone in the world, can't no anyone else is real, rational though, can't prove or disprove
cazalla: feel bugs? schizophrenia! paranoid? schizophrenia!
mircea_popescu: the general stance of medicine, for about eleven centuries or so, has been that nobody cares what people think ; but if it interferes with their lives.
mircea_popescu: it's the deep root behind the russian "slow acting psychosis" and the dsm and all the jazz.
cazalla: well, this has interfered with my life for the past 10 years, but one develops coping mechanisms because one has no choice, other hten to top oneself, which i am not too keen on
cazalla: i've gone as far as a ct coronary angiogram.. nothing
cazalla: well hey, the idea of giving it or receiving it turns me off, so maybe you're right
cazalla: you know.. they shit from there afterall
cazalla: cock being the most pressure thing i have
cazalla: sure as fuck not sticking it in such a shitty place
mircea_popescu: so there's your tailor made placebo. every time you get the problem, tell yourself that if it keeps going you're going to have anal sex with a black dude as a cure.
cazalla: thestringpuller, coming down under lol?
cazalla: only poofs have nose rings
cazalla: nah, you'd have to kill me before i'd submit to that
cazalla: i guess it don't matter anyway
mircea_popescu 's little shop of horrors slash talk therapy is now open for biz.
cazalla: that's some witch doctor shit
cazalla: cause im one step closer to the edge, geddit
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 05:05:29; phf: there are parts by the waterfront where on weekends you can see an assortment of underclasses and weirdos. mexicans fishing, blacks riding dirt bikes, white trash drinking. kind of cool, i'll take that anytime over the overdeveloped DC
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 05:13:44; pete_dushenski: the whole 'red hot economy' spectacle really isn't as attractive first-hand as it is on paper, at least aesthetically.
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 13:27:57; mircea_popescu: i hear anal sex relaxes one.
cazalla: so you giving or taking shinohai
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 05:37:42; kuzetsa: oooh, less than a month ago ok
shinohai: I mean, ill use it on my gf sometimes when she says she is stressed?
shinohai: how 'bout an anal fuck? mircea_popescu says it relieves stress!
shinohai: "oh yeah, I guess you're right!" *bends over*
mircea_popescu: cazalla you know i don't follow the logic of this. so no anal sex because she on occasion shits from there ? for one thing, if you want her to, she can banana from there, just stick one in. for the other thing - no oral sex either ? she pukes from there! you like puke more than shit ? what about normal hole, she bleeds from there not to mention babies from there. are you a pedo now because you fuck the baby hole ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai it does actually work, least of which because she gotta relax to take it or else it hurts.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, what womens pukes from there on a daily basis? i sure as fuck don't want shit on my cock
cazalla: rather jack off on xhamster than use condoms
mircea_popescu: and i fucked at least a coupla that puked on a super-daily basis.
cazalla: spew ain't near as revolting as shit anyway, imo
mircea_popescu: SOME EAT THE SHIT BEFORE THEY PUKE IT OUT AND EAT IT AGAIN!11
shinohai: Just think "hey my cock is so big it makes her puke!" You'll feel better about it! :D
cazalla: if you enjoy it, or others, idc, but never seen the appeal, as mentioned before, i was pressured into it and she cried lol
mircea_popescu: wait, bubba pressured you into doing the missus in the pooper ?
cazalla: if it's purely to humilate and pwn her, i get it, but for ones own enjoyment, i don't see it, for myself anyway
cazalla: biological urge is to knock her up whether i really want it or not
cazalla: and clearly i really want to
cazalla: that is what it reminds me of lol
shinohai: SuchWow: "staff-emeritus" of ............ dogecoin
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 06:23:11; phf: it just looks like the issue is not so much that his views are frowned upon, it's that he can't handle opposite opinions
mircea_popescu has been around long enough to recall this exact thing happening once before.
mircea_popescu: the inconvenient truth of the matter is that there isn't enough hope to go around to everyone ; and moreover that intelligence per se is a miserable predictor for this.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's true that [a certain subset of parents] treats their kids intelligence as a sort of surogate beauty/athletic promise/musical talent,
mircea_popescu: that'll perhaps feed and clothe their wormy offspring when they won't be able to.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, intelligence in and of itself is not useful to the intelligent.
cazalla: shinohai, aint you never heard of the glove in a tube between the bed trick, chicken breast wtf
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mircea_popescu: !rate kuzetsa -1 stereotypical wikipedia idiot. please do humanity and the world generally a favour and step outside. everything. all of you.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.kuzetsa.-1:779bdaecbb1406c7632aa9000d51bf376602ac8654c532a494bea29839ce39aa
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for kuzetsa with note: stereotypical wikipedia idiot. please do humanity and the world generally a favour and step outside. everything. all of you.
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 06:39:01; adlai: has anybody actually gone over alphago's play? this thing plays like an intelligent, polite housewife
mircea_popescu: and there's a pile of observations to be had there, such as "the result of an aggregate is a woman ?!" and so on, but i'm too lazy.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 06:45:13; *: adlai wonders at the degree to which AlphaGo plays against itself ~during~, not between, games
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 06:52:48; ben_vulpes: and cunts, mircea_popescu would say
peterl: <mircea_popescu>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409266 << the difference between these two is irrelevant in context. during, in between, wut ? << if taken from during them game, it can predict the best way to win the current game, if taken before hand, it just predicts the general best way to win
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 06:45:13; *: adlai wonders at the degree to which AlphaGo plays against itself ~during~, not between, games
peterl: if the opponent does something it would not have done, then all the premade predictions are useless
mircea_popescu: peterl thinking the thing maintains a huge rainbow table of games is not useful. the thing about go is that it has too many possible positions.
peterl: right, so it has to figure the best moved based on the current board
mircea_popescu: it works by computing clusters of stones over and over, best i can tell
mircea_popescu: (tbf, the nature of nn is that nobody is an expert anyway)
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 07:24:57; ben_vulpes: my inner thieving gypsy recoils violently against the notion of working someone else's chumpatron
mircea_popescu: in better living through technologee news, i bought a juicer a while back, it came with a coffee grinder attachment which i never used. until a few days ago, that is
mircea_popescu: when it occured tro me that if i put my cereal in there, i probably wouldn't have to chew it. and so i did, and wow, cereal-tahini-paste. wunderbar.
cazalla: got a juicer, some korean slow motor shit
cazalla: college cornflakes tahini though i dunno
cazalla: had my fill of tzatziki this summer, cucumbers out the ass
cazalla: fuck all views, gimme that make monies while u sleep adsense monies
cazalla: zzz, night all, much love, terry tibbs
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adlai: mircea_popescu: sounds like you should have the girls start up an herbalife/"soylent cream is sheeple" competitor! but what you & peterl say makes me question my understanding of ANNs (or that of people who say that AlphaGo is still "learning" while gazing deeper into its own navel)
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assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 15:03:17; adlai: mircea_popescu: sounds like you should have the girls start up an herbalife/"soylent cream is sheeple" competitor! but what you & peterl say makes me question my understanding of ANNs (or that of people who say that AlphaGo is still "learning" while gazing deeper into its own navel)
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 13:54:45; mircea_popescu: the inconvenient truth of the matter is that there isn't enough hope to go around to everyone ; and moreover that intelligence per se is a miserable predictor for this.
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 14:00:42; mircea_popescu: and there's a pile of observations to be had there, such as "the result of an aggregate is a woman ?!" and so on, but i'm too lazy.
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assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 04:28:05; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not a photoshop, taken in New England with a camera that sees time 7 years in advance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was re the entire marginal autistic child trapped in an adult body thing.
adlai: mircea_popescu: as i understand it, 'alphago' is a system for training a go-move-scoring ANN against itself, from an initial seed of positions taken from human games. the product of this is a single instance which can play a game against a human, or itself, and "learn" - producing another instance of itself
assbot: The all-American asshole, in his own words, with my own notes on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1PIi3El )
mircea_popescu: adlai i didn't get the idea alphago was a single instance.
adlai: the only possible hope I see for a surprise victory is if something qualitatively different happens once they seed the whole story with professional matches. the 'instance' (in the sense of (make-instance 'alphago), not in the sense of "machine") which beat Fan Hui was seeded off amateur games alone.
mircea_popescu: my understanding, quite rudimentary i admit, is that instead of iterating through all possible single-move changes to the board, the machine iterates through "all commonly seen cluster-level changes to the board".
mircea_popescu: which is a cheap heuristic and likely to beat a good chunk of players.
mircea_popescu: and the whole nn talk is just smoke and mirrors built atop that simple idea, basically.
adlai: thus the navel gazing comment. it seems to me that alphago-which-beat-fanhui was analogous to an amateur who spent 1000 "human-years" of time playing against itself, and now has enough "spider sense" for macro-tactics to almost fake understanding strategy
mircea_popescu: this is, afail, how most people deliberately taught go are taught go
mircea_popescu: it's not necessarily a bad approach, i guess, but it doesn't make for a good player.
adlai: the only unknown in the story is what happens when the seed set includes professional matches... my inkling so far is that amateur matches include good moves, professional matches include less bad ones
mircea_popescu: (i don't believe in teaching go. which is to say - i do not believe there is a single thing you can say to a new player whicfh provably does more good than bad.)
adlai: discussion of alphago on several sites mentions hearsay-level evidence that the bot facing Fan Hui had only ever 'studied' amateur games, or its own games.
adlai: iirc this is in the video. hang on.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: re: library life. In my picuture what do you think the dude was browsing for? Big library eans it takes time to find the nekkid.
assbot: WilliamDhalgren comments on Synopsis of Myungwan Kim's analysis of Fan Hui vs AlphaGo Match X-post from r/MachineLearning ... (
http://bit.ly/1PIiZst )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consumer level security is always an affair directed more at the neighbour's teenaged sons than anything.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm serious. Cool things happen near the compact shelving and study cages because the undergrads wonder who the fuck goes there.
adlai: asciilifeform: hearsay traces back to the paper! the team claims not to seed with a single pro game.
adlai: this is apparently some point of pride for folks in the "the machine does everything, i just gave birth" crowd
mircea_popescu: adlai in principle, showing that "seed" from sewer or palace leads to the same result is ~= to proof the process is pure metaphysics.
adlai: market goes up, market does down. AGI can't explain that!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, it's not that. it's that google is desperate for stuff to make the shareholders dream another year.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the game of musical chairs is that 10 trn imaginary tokens were distributed between three exactly identical slashdots such that two got > 99%.
adlai waits for MIRI to close shop, concluding that from a purely utilitarian point of view, grey goo is really best for everyone involved
mircea_popescu: simple thermodynamics requires this situation to destabilize over time.
mircea_popescu: adlai not to mention what humans are ALREADY emulating.
mircea_popescu: can you explain the difference between israel as it is and israel occupied by two feet tall grey goo ?
adlai: is it jewishly democratic grey goo, or gooishly gray democratic judaism?
adlai: at least parlimentary democracies float up lulz like "Party for Men's Rights, and Those of Taxi Drivers" (rough translation)
mircea_popescu: turns out in retrospect the only thing distinguishing humans and dog vomit was poor connectivity. once that was fixed...
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BingoBoingo: for srs, this started right the fuck after miners came around to vetoing classiccoin
peterl: the idea being if you trade well, you can beat the account fee
mircea_popescu: now i get chinese language viagra spam referencing the putative sexual prowess of black people from africa.
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck did the internet do to people.
peterl: and if you bitbet well, you beat the house, right?
mircea_popescu: no but srsly... i tried to imagine little pancake faced people going "give it to me bish!" to little pancake faced people and nearly lost it.
trinque: asciilifeform: so, other than clean nuking deps, what did you hate about the makefiles ?
☟︎ trinque: I may have some time to fiddle with that today.
peterl: and bitbet is more stacked than coinbr?
mircea_popescu: peterl can't the guy have a preference ? and then pass it off as reasonable ?
trinque: they *do* call into the dependency makefiles recursively, aside from boost, which bjams
peterl: aha, I understand, just poking the bear
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 16:59:55; trinque: asciilifeform: so, other than clean nuking deps, what did you hate about the makefiles ?
trinque: there was a thread about the folder structure I produced
trinque: you're opposed to folders in a build tree having their own makefiles?
trinque: I can get behind the notion that limiting it to one puts pressure on keeping the make system small.
punkman: you buy 2k MPOE shares for 0.00055, you sell them at 0.00056, make enough for the fee. takes about 10 minutes every 6 months.
punkman: you wait another month maybe
punkman: +-0.00001 happens often enough, it's really not much trouble.
mats: i wonder what jurov's revenue looks like
trinque: hey jurov, how much money do you have?
☟︎ danielpbarron: i don't really look at my coinbr unless i see a trade cross a new price
adlai wonders what s.mpoe's whiplash peak sigma looks like
adlai: "Account management fee is asked only from accounts that hold any BTC or any assets by 1st of current month"
punkman: well I pay so I can "own" some shares, not to gamble
adlai: feeling like an owner!
danielpbarron: ask shareholders of qntra over the last months what was the point?
danielpbarron: i didn't sell any of the shares i earned for writing
danielpbarron: i think a dividend is more like a consolation prize
punkman: asciilifeform: I was roped into it after kako and mp gifted me some bbet shares
punkman: o hey my bbet dividend covered this month's fee
punkman: and seems I got about 0.58 for my one qntra article's worth of shares, not bad
adlai: arguably, now that bitbet is getting more advertising, punkman owns part of a brand; practically speaking, one can't buy the bitbet brand without enriching punkman a little (short of shorting s.bbet a lottle)
danielpbarron: if we're gonna compare a stake in a company to a single cow.. it's quite the remarkable cow; one which you can add and remove meat easily without bothering the beast, and milk it too!
shinohai: I should make a BitBet as to whether Donald Trumps sues Pope Francis over his comments today.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Rush Limbaugh is reporting he is being concilliatory at this point
BingoBoingo: What, do people not believe me when I suggest I supplement the powers of the internet with broadcast radio?
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BingoBoingo: Nearly 40 million in penalties settled for ~160 kilodollars
☟︎ linton_s_dawson: I thought about what may improve the TMSR infrastructure and figured that the logs themselves are somewhat difficult to navigate. "Catching up" with the logs means reading through the whole conversation until you stumble upon what matters. I.e. "a new patch was proposed" or "MP uncovered the next scam in the making".
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linton_s_dawson: It goes without saying that catching up with everything since the beginning (if you are new blood) is tiresome. You could use Search to find discussions on specific topics but will still miss something important.
linton_s_dawson: So the idea is to create "The b-a chronicles" that will highlight important events/discussions/propositions with links to the context. Catching up will boil down to picking a specific date and seeing what happened on that day in a simple manner with links to the context.
peterl: it's like syncing the blockchain, it takes forever, and you have to keep connected once you do catch up
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: ty, can't promise it'll go up immediately
danielpbarron: no rush, and maybe you'll need to scold me for doing some strange things with html; I'm not sure what my limits are exactly
peterl: linton_s_dawson there have been several suggested ways to summarize logs, but nobody has taken the time/put in the effort yet
punkman: linton_s_dawson: topic of log summaries comes up often, nobody delivers
peterl: it seems like something that would require active management to keep it up to date
linton_s_dawson: The questions is whether it can be automated or done by contributors.
☟︎ punkman: are you gonna train some neural network?
linton_s_dawson: If done properly it may get enough traffic to earn from advertisement? And then distribute earnings to contributors.
☟︎ peterl: advertising revenue is a bad business model
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Looks like <blockquote> is missing. deweird the html and resubmit
peterl: sounds like a way to make pennies per hour (if you are lucky)
danielpbarron: blockquote where? I see it in the correct place on my end
punkman: I can see a summary subscription thing making some money eventually
danielpbarron: the weirdness is that i put a block quote in a list item in an ordered list
peterl: not just at this stage. We need to get away from the advertising revenue model, cause it sucks
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: over the giant chunk of logs
danielpbarron: well the ordered list isn't logs, it's a list of links to the log, the text of the link is a number
danielpbarron: oh hm, I guess I need <br>s in the blockquote? Or is there an attribute to force it to respect line returns?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: it works as it. In the future, just avoid nesting quotes in lists
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ben_vulpes: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson a robust thread-tracker would be very nice.
mircea_popescu: "Dream-Cash.com Webmaster2:11 pm 9.7 KiBTeenDreams.com: New Tube Style Tour!"
ben_vulpes: imagine logs as forum threads, where a link to a previous log line bumps the whole thread
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 17:17:01; trinque: hey jurov, how much money do you have?
jurov: but hoepfully i'm learning from mircea how to project :D
mod6: asciilifeform: interesting email
mod6: how do you even find these gems?
mircea_popescu: wtf bullshit togo of a country you got there asciilifeform !
punkman: "Out of a 38,615,161 United States dollar judgment against the firm and Sonny Vleisides the firm is to pay 15,000 and Sonny Vleisides is to pay 4,000." << so they only have to pay $20k out of the $38 mil?
mircea_popescu: let's not forget that sonny vleisides is a convicted 'ndrangheta captain, who was doing business while on parole in violation of the terms
mircea_popescu is too lazy to fish the thing out from the forum where he is going to "answer any questions", mpoe-pr asks a few and that's the last he's heard from, ever, in any btc anything.
punkman: asciilifeform: "and all the btc" only from the chick though
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 18:44:46; linton_s_dawson: I thought about what may improve the TMSR infrastructure and figured that the logs themselves are somewhat difficult to navigate. "Catching up" with the logs means reading through the whole conversation until you stumble upon what matters. I.e. "a new patch was proposed" or "MP uncovered the next scam in the making".
punkman: btw did they refund any btc from unfulfilled preorders?
mircea_popescu: this is the most scandalous thing i ever heard. ten thousand hollow posturings with imaginary criminals manufacturer out of derpy us teenagers won't wash this humiliation.
mircea_popescu: the us bent over and took it in the ass from a bunch of marginally literate calabrese peasants of vague greek ethnicity.
mircea_popescu: the sale at public auction without reserve of a bahamas daughter does not compare.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91631 @ 0.00055788 = 51.1191 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: see alf, odds are i'll move to palo alto for a free raping and looting monthlong session, end up having to pay a parking fine. you however will go down for 775 consecutive life sentences of a crow + 412 consecutive life sentences of a parrot for being a criminal in your criminal ways that include nothing in particular.
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 18:47:51; linton_s_dawson: The questions is whether it can be automated or done by contributors.
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:01:30; mircea_popescu: trinque as a boy, i was very distraught to find from my mother that if one invents something, he doesn't merely have to say what it should be
mircea_popescu: really, a fascist derp shat in his profession ? never heard of!
mircea_popescu: the selection effect is quite active, esp in the older days.
mircea_popescu: "people don't remember false proofs of false theorems because htye do not wish to"
mircea_popescu: "back when i was you8nger and i put out valid results i made aneffort, but now that i'm old and publishing rank nonsense anyway, why bother ? i just copy it!"
jurov: and bitbet finally got another banner? a bit gnarly, tho
gabriel_laddel: ;; later tell cazalla Have you tried morphine for your pain? It is possible to maintain a habit and be productive (ex: William Halsted).
trinque: or you could hit the gym and eat well, sleep some
gabriel_laddel: ;; later tell cazalla Also, why not just leave Aus? Take a boat to BA or Montevideo. Don't come back.
BingoBoingo: <punkman> "Out of a 38,615,161 United States dollar judgment against the firm and Sonny Vleisides the firm is to pay 15,000 and Sonny Vleisides is to pay 4,000." << so they only have to pay $20k out of the $38 mil? << Yes, then Jody/Dora the explorer has to pay either $XXX,XXX or Bitcorns
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> punkman: didja miss the 'and all the btc' part ? << "OR" all the btc of the unprotected defendant
punkman: not even all the btc, only the btc mined on company equipment
gabriel_laddel: just hop on a cruise ship and don't get back on when they leave the port
gabriel_laddel: MP has already reported that idiots in BA don't hustle on weekends. Hustle on weekends
gabriel_laddel: I have a few obligations to take care of here in the US first.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel he's married, and with a kid on the way.
gabriel_laddel: I could have sworn you had a post in which the conclusion was "bring them along".
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel> MP has already reported that idiots in BA don't hustle on weekends. Hustle on weekends <<< this is actually a killer plan.
mircea_popescu: pretty much anyone can make bank here, given that these people can be readily approximated with plants.
mircea_popescu: hustling. it's a thing, like programming. "pushing buttons on a keyboard all day ?" myeah, somethinglikethat.,
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: the original mention was of currency changers iirc
mircea_popescu: one of the guys i was working with had made his original capital selling plastic toys in the street.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> adding one << hey! 'grats!
mod6: ah, my bad. thx Mr. P.
mod6: yah, my bad ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: dun get me wrong imma get a whole litter here sooner or later
mircea_popescu: why do all you people have multiple kids with the same woman ? doesn't it stand to reason ...
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: because i can't stand many others?
phf: send your kids to train stops to make some extra cash begging
mod6: dads who drive minivans are the most aggressive drivers on the imho
phf: oh different kind of caravan
mircea_popescu: itinerant website mender, the v2.0 of itinerant metal shit mender.
ben_vulpes: with a whole brood of thieving children to live off
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes laugh but it's probably the best plan someone living in the us could come up with.
mircea_popescu: course i have nfi why anyone involved in that would select women by other criteria than fertility.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you see me laughing?
ben_vulpes: i've just come to terms with the inevitable future
ben_vulpes: fertility, huh? how'd you go about selecting for that mircea_popescu ?
phf: i was at a "van life" talk at burning man, and womens there were certainly selected for their fertility
mircea_popescu: you know the rule, for to be a marrigeable young gypsy fellow, do you ?
ben_vulpes: they don't educate gypsies about anything
mircea_popescu: "be able to manufacture any part of the [cara]van. here's this dull axe. forest's that way."
mircea_popescu: lol. methinks your notions of gypohood may be a tad informed by entertainymedia.
ben_vulpes: they don't educate impoverished usians either!
phf: the thing that was in few years back-- vw type 2 conversions for road life, i.e. gutting insides, putting offroad suspension. i know at least two people who's been living like that past few years
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you go steal one, the guy you stole it from [who is better than you by simple virtue of he having one you don't] tracks you down, and what are you going to do to him and his five brothers ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, ever seen crna macka, beli macor ben_vulpes ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: typical usian cow is more enchained by thinking it's necessary to have a car than a better person for having one
ben_vulpes: such from us institutions now an actual liability on resumes
phf: shinohai: not the connotation in those circles
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dun think so much enchained by thinking car is necessary as fully aware that without a car she has to know how to do a whole raft of things.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he had a sit-down with chris ballas and theo de raadt, and they agreed to be good boys and eat the creampie.
mircea_popescu: do you get the part where if you add much more yellow than blue you don't get green but chartruse ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22801 @ 0.00056747 = 12.9389 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: expectations stemmed from previous topic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54371 @ 0.00057122 = 31.0578 BTC [+] {2}
phf: actually one van dweller i knew was this nasty, 60 year old hippie dude, sort of ram das like character. i think all he did was cruise from one west coast hot spring to another. he would always have an utterly zonkered, 20 year old, supermodel looking girl in his van, every time i'd run into him, a different one.
phf: i don't know what to think about it. my reaction every time is exactly "huh"
mircea_popescu: to my eyes it's sorta like the pedo dude who spends a summer to dig a hole in the dirt where to keep 12 yos.
mircea_popescu: turn it any way you want - you're still digging in the dirt with your hands. there's gotta be a better use of one's time.