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BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8239.94, vol: 21206.61521357 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8204.9, vol: 78055.15947485 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8199.8, vol: 16286.7813589 | Volume-weighted last average: 8210.61203341
hanbot: phf fwiw btcbase.org/data/vtools/vtools_vdiff_sha.vpatch.phf.sig 404s ☟︎
mircea_popescu: soo this actually (mostly) functional drive actually fails to read its own smart data.
mircea_popescu: i've never seen something like this before.
asciilifeform seen
asciilifeform: but it was a drive where i , uh, molested, the firmware
asciilifeform: ( a la http://qntra.net/2015/02/your-disk-controller-and-you but 'before it was cool'(tm) )
mircea_popescu: this is just an ancient (80gb) drive.
mircea_popescu: 2057 bad sectors.
mircea_popescu: old style ide
asciilifeform: lol! i thought you'd boiled those in tomato soup
asciilifeform: ( http://trilema.com/2014/spy-stuff/ )
asciilifeform: fwiw 'smart' wasn't marketed till 2004 iirc. so possibly the thing dun even have it.
asciilifeform: ( prior to the standard, you could only read diskrot data via proprietary magics )
asciilifeform pulls a 80G ( circa 2001 ) out of the depths of the depths -- and - as expected - no 'smart'
asciilifeform: sorta how my '92 toyota had no obd plug
asciilifeform bbl.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc this set is 2005 or 2006 vintage.
mircea_popescu: the 500gb had just come out and ppl were starting to make jokes re eventual tb
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in your AN0 document, you say that shareholder equity is the difference between the sum of assets and other liabilities, but when i tot that up i get the 11.9etc, and not the 11 that your comment mentions. naively, that's the equity that the shareholders put in, but i'm struggling to reconcile that with an0 liabilities bullet #2
ben_vulpes: (in reference to the february pizarro statement and comment http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/02/pizarro-statement-february-2018/comment-page-1/#comment-24 )
mircea_popescu: note that when i jot down comments i approximate numbers.
mircea_popescu: tis your job to get the decimal points.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, NFC7AZcrane (~sezhzn@node-gce.pool-101-51.dynamic.totbb.net) just spammed #eulora, but not tried to connect here. apparently teh voice model discourages irc spammers that much.
mircea_popescu: and i've quite enjoyed reading al schwartz. in peristaltic news, wikipedia thinks there's a dozen al schwartzes out there, NONE of which this one, and none of which worth any kind of mention.
ben_vulpes: was the thrust of your comment that the net change column should see a value of 11? decimals aside i don't understand what you were driving at with that comment. ☟︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes i am getting 'cannot sent to channel' eggog in #pizarro
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes your conf is http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EiCDX/?raw=true ; you will prolly want to change CONFIG_LOCALVERSION to something of your own. aside from that -- is good to go.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: mod6 around ?
ben_vulpes: thanks asciilifeform
asciilifeform: np. plz lemme know if it worked correctly.
mod6: yup
mod6: here
ben_vulpes: mod6: can ya fix voice in #pizarro? asciilifeform reports cannot send to channel ☟︎
mod6: yup yup
lobbes: mircea_popescu: relatedly, last night I came across gabriel_laddel's links on trilema and found myself quickly engulfed in uncle al's burn saga (my first time reading it). That guy is fucking good indeed.
lobbes: One of my favorite gems:
lobbes: "Contrary to medical opinion, a patent absolutely sloshed on morphine and diazepine tranquilizers can indeed work up sufficient rage to vociferously complain, bellow actually, about the sound and feeling of cancellous bone being crushed inside his skull as a bored nurse thrashes a lead-weighted truncheon about the insides his sinuses. She knew there was an exit to my throat back there somewhere, it was in the anatomy books. If she could not find it
lobbes: I'm tempted to mirror and index everything I can find on mazepath.com before it is swallowed by the null ocean ☟︎
asciilifeform: lobbes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fjfHv/?raw=true
lobbes: Aha. ty asciilifeform!
trinque: lobbes: nothing could be cheaper today or more expensive tomorrow
trinque routinely archives good www
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/03/15/eucrypt-additional-check-and-a-note-on-cosmetic-changes/ << Ossasepia - EuCrypt: Additional Check and a Note on Cosmetic Changes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-15#1787885 << no, that's just the b.6 portion. (and i don't like this "main thrust" device in general, it's one thing to try and get all the angles, but it's folly to try and select "the main one".) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-15 06:44 ben_vulpes: was the thrust of your comment that the net change column should see a value of 11? decimals aside i don't understand what you were driving at with that comment.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-15#1787900 << o, yeah, do it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-15 15:55 lobbes: I'm tempted to mirror and index everything I can find on mazepath.com before it is swallowed by the null ocean
mod6: diana_coman: seems to verify and press fine; http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wwhPv/?raw=true
diana_coman: mod6, thanks for the super-speedy check!
mircea_popescu: his contributions on usenet suffer very much from the naggum problem (he's plain idiotic plenty of places, apparently interacting with idiots corrups HIM rather than corrupting them into being less idiotic) ; but such annoyances aside i don't know anyone coming around being so right since tlp.
mircea_popescu: mod6 that was quick eh!
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman: np!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-15#1787895 << why dja even have voice there ? notforcustomers ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-15 15:22 ben_vulpes: mod6: can ya fix voice in #pizarro? asciilifeform reports cannot send to channel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: until today i did not even notice that it had +m...
mircea_popescu: (other than the usenet nonsense, and quite amusingly to me, al is MOST wrong on the topic of... management!)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: d00d spent his entire working life in the midst of usa's deindustrialization autolysis. where was he to ever see, hear, smell, example of goodmanager.
mod6: it seems that it was somehow turned on by default when i registered the channel -- and had removed the -m by hand.
mod6: forgot to lock the modes.
mod6: so when I lost my connection yesterday or the day before, i had to recover the channel, which reset the original modes.
mod6: now (there are links to me doing so in #pizarro) I have locked the modes to +cnt for now.
mod6: !!up mircea_popescu
deedbot: mircea_popescu voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ty
mod6: np!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right. i don't hold it against him any. but has to be said.
mircea_popescu: iirc we tried to get him to show up years ago, but it didn't take
asciilifeform: iirc he actually showed, for ten seconds or so.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: from the search : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-16#446641 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-01-16 01:13 unclehowell: Hey everyone. I wanted to introduce my tech startup. It's called Wave. We're planning to make internet access free using a new generation of ads-for-access. The best part is, we're doing our entire Series A investment round with Bitcoin: http://wavetele.com/layout/Pages/shares-area/beneficiaries.html
asciilifeform: moarthanmost!11
asciilifeform recalls most recent contact with al, a reply re 2013 snsa prospectus, featuring phrase 'you will be either bought or killed by usg' iirc
trinque: > server error
trinque: I guess his netzerojunowhatever didn't.
mircea_popescu: i guess i'm not even right re management. "Coercive culture-crushing Christian missionaries squawking mainline and fringe persuasions endowed Koreans with a Western legacy of greed, plunder, political larceny, and Official truth." etc.
mircea_popescu: trinque you need http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ specifically
mircea_popescu: the server is managed by some "reputed genius" that's plain idiotic.
trinque: talking about his startup link
asciilifeform: trinque: afaik unrelated to the al who is subj of thread
trinque: ah ok.
mircea_popescu: oh, wave ? they believe in deleting history periodically. pantsuits neh
mircea_popescu: waveapp now or something
mircea_popescu: yes, entirely unrelated ; maybe something in the vein of gl's point ("the suffix "Uncle", which is given to OC mensa members who've survived trying situations") or else you know, just tryna piggy on it.
mircea_popescu: https://www.ocregister.com/2012/09/02/high-iq-society-mensa-uses-hands-on-game-to-show-wealth-disparities/ << in other lulz. turns out that in pantsuit socialism, the smart pioneers are a sub to the mass pioneer's organisation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: betcha even 'alcoholics anon' and ship-in-bottle societies etc. in california, do ~same
mircea_popescu: oh, absolutely.
asciilifeform: it's the californirasty, not the (afaik quite heterogeneous) socialclubs.
mircea_popescu: just like "women's association" had oppinion on whatever ceausescu speech of the day.
mircea_popescu: the socialist chumpatron is only flavoured ~AT THE INTAKE HOPPER~.
asciilifeform: how else. fish only needs hook while in the sea, and no longer needs when in packing plant or in the shop.
mircea_popescu: "this is where the women that'll say the same thing go, this is where 9 year olds that'll say the same thing go, this is where 12 yo girls that are redheads, virgins and shave their pubis but will nevertheless say the same thing go..." it's astroturfed diversity for the purpose of giving some semblance of meaning to engineered unanimity.
mircea_popescu: very much an application of ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-25#1176177 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-06-25 07:05 mircea_popescu: "Our Solutions Leadership About Us Careers News Contact" who the fuck thought this is how you do it ? it's almost like the soviet butcher, "we're the advertising shop, we don't have publishers. fish is what they don't have in the shop down the street"
asciilifeform: according to al, 'mensa' was actually entertaining, and iirc even a reliable source of quality fuckables. but asciilifeform has no direct knowledge of subj, 'за что купил за то продаю' etc.
mircea_popescu: (which, incidentally, is why socialism is dream-like, ie what happens when mind goes to sleep. they very much http://trilema.com/2018/lets-read-together-uncle-al-schwartz-hexadecimal-dependency/#footnote_1_78266 : "we have no legitimacy and no possibility of ever being legitimate" "but if we were based on a representative mandate we'd have such possibility" "yes but we don't have it" "but if we claimed groups support us it'd
mircea_popescu: look like we had it" "yes but no groups support us" "yes but if we created the groups around the support, then we'd have them" "yes but they'd be irrelevant" "but we'd claim nothing else exist" "hey, this is psychotic enough to work!!!")
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i visited a few of them. encountered no quality fuckables, in fact, encountered a rehash of organizatia poetilor din judetul caras-severin.
mircea_popescu: (county poet's organisation -- lotta bored old folk.)
asciilifeform: the other nitpick, as i understand 'mensa' was (is?) moar of an opium den, place where folx would sit around playing games, than a political action thing
mircea_popescu: then again, i personally went to boston area bdsm munch. WITH chet. it consisted of a dozen dorks in a food court, trying to not step over each other while courting the single solitary young female, which was neither hot nor even remotely interesting.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect it's a throne that's ben sat on for the sitting long enough.
asciilifeform had a chum who joined... masons. reported: 'erryone 90+ y.o. but me'
mircea_popescu: heh
trinque: same dynamic? they wanted to fuck him?
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
asciilifeform: lol notafaik
asciilifeform: he brewed beer. they -- drank it.
mircea_popescu: you know, in my entire life (which includes more naked females idling about than most, i'd bet) i met ONE SINGLE case of 90yo who wanted to fuck anyone.
mircea_popescu: that guy kicked all ass, though.
asciilifeform: the '14 d00dz, 1 vaguely female' is what asciilifeform saw at '2600 society'
mircea_popescu: which is this ?
asciilifeform: !#s 2600
a111: 184 results for "2600", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=2600
asciilifeform: !#s from:phf 2600
a111: 5 results for "from:phf 2600", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aphf%202600
asciilifeform: ^ iirc he had a detailed description.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2018-3-15#314839 << remarkably, the subsequent half dozen were not measurably delayed.
mircea_popescu: oh oh.
mircea_popescu: ok, but that's technological, at least greenspun's chiclid observation applies.
mircea_popescu: bdsm is of interest to 99.9x% of females and maybe 1/3 of males.
mircea_popescu: oh, asciilifeform, i thought the dude was long term monogamous anyway, what source of fuckables ?
asciilifeform: iirc he only turned into monogamist when old
asciilifeform: (his essays, recall, spanned ~30 yrs ! )
mircea_popescu: he evidently had long term same-partner at time of nostril hair counting.
asciilifeform: aha, mid-90s
mircea_popescu: that was what, mid 1990s ?
asciilifeform: right
mircea_popescu: so we're discussing events older than 25 years ?
asciilifeform: by that time he had been posting for ~decade already.
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: iirc he was also not quite the usual monogamist, went with gurl to fuck parties etc
mircea_popescu: still, any knowledge about 1980s us org is ~worthless today.
mircea_popescu: i can believe mensa, or the corner shop, were'nt repulsive horrors in 1980. what's that do.
asciilifeform: archaeological interest strictly.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, he'd be late 60s by now wouldn't he.
asciilifeform: i have reason to suspect that he may be recently dead ( stopped showing up in the few remaining places where he showed up in recent yrs )
asciilifeform: !!up mircea_popescu
deedbot: mircea_popescu voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu shall bbl in a few.
mircea_popescu: but before i go, let it be said that burn victim with intact lungs is, by virtue of that ALONE, clever in the animal sense. no two ways about it, it's a definitive and absolute exam, like a few others.
mircea_popescu: and burn victim with intact lungs AND intact eyes is actually cerebrally intelligent. idem definitive and absolute exam. to get intact eyes you must have planned for it and stuck to plan disciplinedly.
ben_vulpes: !!up seen_Xemist
deedbot: seen_Xemist voiced for 30 minutes.
seen_Xemist: Wrong handle for Uncle Al. He showed up as Xemist, same as disqus.
ben_vulpes: ty seen_Xemist
seen_Xemist: Also, http://www.wlym.com/archive/oakland/docs/MarsProject.pdf page 86, lispm keyboard designer & Ginkgo Bioworks
seen_Xemist: https://github.com/dkochmanski/charming-clim/
seen_Xemist: Video is on his blog
ben_vulpes: pls no more clim
ben_vulpes wonders if that was gabe
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, i just finished "blitzed! drugs in the third reich" while working through hart's history of the second world war. contrast between the two books is...strong.
asciilifeform: in other archaeological dead-ends, https://www.cypherpunks.to/hlp/list/msg00019.html