assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 21:36:59; mircea_popescu: there exist in the us-of-a at least a dozen juvenile females who go "at least i had a door".
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 22:29:24; shinohai: Living in America period is enough to make you wanna kill yourself sometimes, sex be damned.
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: babylon eh. like with saifedean in lebanon or what ?
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 22:27:22; mircea_popescu: apparently, suicide among physicians in the us is larger than for the general population. however - male suicide is LOWER, whereas female suicide is not only higher, it's actually highere than the male
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 22:36:48; shinohai: My gf's tits display pretty nicely ... in HD AND zoom works!
funkenstein_: yeah and "court date".. better see what they want eh? especially in babylon ;)
pete_dushenski: also of note (if true) : milton was the most physically active at 4hrs per day, flaubert did the most reading at 5hrs per day, and balzac did the most writing at 13.5hrs per day
funkenstein_: reminds me of when i first visited buenos aires
mircea_popescu: they expect people to reply to then sell them legal services or something ?
pete_dushenski: i'm guessing that if these figures have any meaning at all that they're from their 'productive years'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: looks like 'old south' style interracialism
funkenstein_: i went to a "music" event there, advertising 14 hrs. of music beginning at 1 am
pete_dushenski: "If you say you are an artist, but you make little money from selling your art, can your work be considered a profession in the eyes of the Internal Revenue Service? In a ruling handed down late last week by the United States Tax Court and seen by many as an important victory for artists, the answer is yes."
pete_dushenski: "The I.R.S., which accused Ms. Crile of underpaying her taxes by more than $81,000 from 2004 to 2009, argued that based on several factors, such as her lack of a written business plan, her work as an artist was “an activity not engaged in for profit” and that she could not claim tax deductions in excess of the income she made from her art."
mircea_popescu: art, of course, has nothing to do with this. the irs does not get to decide is the core.
mircea_popescu: i'd be kinda surprised if the irs actually earnestly argued against this one.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: The spelling should be the same in the other signed ones
mircea_popescu: "Girlfriends are another. Girlfriends say: I pretend to believe you when you say you know kung fu, because I love you. The boyfriend says, not hearing anything she said: I'll stay with you until either I know kung fu; or you realize I don't really know kung fu, and my shame makes me hate you. What does it matter? None of this is the real thing anyway."
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's reasonably persuasive. the west is broken because "the women". specifically, because the women would like to help and the men can't be helped by them.
mircea_popescu: terms used nominally ; no relation to actual contents of jar.
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PeterL: I find it interesting Bitbet still has both Bush and Rubio favored as winning the nomination. They can't both win.
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BingoBoingo: I was honestly thinking about a pass on it until I saw how many elder lizards were involved
☟︎ BingoBoingo: For those who aren't familiar Frist was the "hero" of the US Capital shooting where he saved the shooter, but not the other people who were shot.
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 04:01:37; BingoBoingo: I was honestly thinking about a pass on it until I saw how many elder lizards were involved
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phf: pretty sure ascii will be going "wake me up when they find hitler" as tmsr~ is hoisting the flag on Reichstag
funkenstein_: ascii i've been meaning to ask you, I always thought of england as mordor... with orthanc in DC... am I missing something?
mircea_popescu: "Over the past 12 years, anesthesiologist Scott Reuben revolutionized the way physicians provide pain relief to patients undergoing orthopedic surgery for everything from torn ligaments to worn-out hips. Now, the profession is in shambles after an investigation revealed that at least 21 of Reuben's papers were pure fiction, and that the pain drugs he touted in them may have slowed postoperative healing."
mircea_popescu: to go with that nice "we caught one forensic lab tech out of mass faking 1000s of reports out of the 1000s of labs that fake forensic reports" story a year back
PeterL: Clearly the current research funding model is borked, is there a more reasonable approach favored by La Serenisima?
mircea_popescu: how about spend some public money on random items and only allow arbitrarily selected scientist people to touch them, for arbitrary intervals, arbitrarily ?
mircea_popescu: but it is very important to not provide any sort of mechanism for any of this to be sorted out.
mircea_popescu: maybe something like the nielsen ratings. have a minister of science which visits strip clubs, shows the girls pictures of scientists and research facilities and asks them to mix and match.
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mircea_popescu: i dunno who has this much patience to be pointless yet present. you'd imagine every drunk eventually wanders an apreciable distance away from any arbitrary pole. but whatevs.
Duffer1: is that 24 hours or is that perma?
mircea_popescu: would have been permanent the last time but ppls bitched for reasons i dun fully grasp.
Duffer1: ah didn't realize there was a last time
Duffer1: he's pretty active in PMs, not usually the chan though
Duffer1: he's good people you should keep him around
Duffer1: in the chan? absolutely no idea
Duffer1: i'm not saying you're wrong, just that I like him around
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shinohai: mornin wyrdmantis , #b-a at large
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shinohai: School? What ya in school for m8?
shinohai: Typical Monday for me, perusing boards to see if anyone needs any horribly-written Spanish articles translated into English.
shinohai: That usually means I say "fuck it" by 1 pm and spend the afternoon drinking wine.
wyrdmantis: yeah, it's not a real, school, it's a course... like a master. Maybe you don't know that i'm in italy... we have courses for everything
shinohai: One of my best friends is from Italy, but he lives in Venezuela now.
wyrdmantis: but your right, school is almost useless
shinohai: Mine certainly didn't force me to go. My grandparents pushed me more than my parents did.
shinohai: If I take classes now, I do the most ridiculous things. Took a sommeliers course last year because I wanted to appreciate wine more.
shinohai: There weren't any "wine appreciation classes" that I could find, but hey sommeliers know wine.
wyrdmantis: that's cool, come in italy if you want to know wine ;)
wyrdmantis: my brother's wife works with prosecco producers
punkman: shinohai: how long was the sommelier course?
shinohai: punkman 3 nights a week over 4 months
shinohai: Now i know exactly when to serve the Night Train and what dishes Mogen David pairs well with.
punkman: shinohai: not bad, did it have the WSET-approved stamp too?
shinohai: I wish, but it was just a local course I think. Restaurants are all over here, so eventually I could probably find one.
shinohai: heh WSET has a online course !!!
punkman: I was making a list of wine-related schools/courses last week, hence the curiosity
punkman: there was a bunch of WSET-approved schools with online courses
punkman: although I don't see how online makes sense
shinohai: Me neither. The experience is a physical one, in that it does require taste, smell, etc.
assbot: Margaret Atwood on our real-life dystopia: “What really worries me is creeping dictatorship” - Salon.com ... (
http://bit.ly/1kjmfiR )
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mircea_popescu: <shinohai> punkman 3 nights a week over 4 months << sounds like a great way to meet coughars huh.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> although I don't see how online makes sense << i expect they expect you to amazon the bottles.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Margaret Atwood on our real-life dystopia: “What really worries me is creeping dictatorship” << fuck her with a pineapple-shaped broomstick.
mircea_popescu: the only thing at your option is to pick dictators. act now, bleed less later.
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trinque: davout | trinque: is "curl
http://deedbot.org/deed-379347-1.txt | shasum -a 256" supposed to work to get a single deed's address private key? << yep that should work. in checking over the addresses, it looks like someone has already snagged some of the dust to verify
davout: trinque: i get ba2345aaae3ba157d8eac8140f5a7af61ffbf2dcf153f788b10d52e52720d209 for this particular one
davout: and if i use some random tool to convert that to a bitcoin address i get 1E49paWydo9FcnYrBHTDDjfvkWC9h8QsWX
davout: i'm interested in mirroring the whole deedbot repo
davout: so i tried to manually verify a random one
wyrdmantis: noob question: how deedbot talk with blockchain? who send the transaction?
davout: so i find 1E49paWydo9FcnYrBHTDDjfvkWC9h8QsWX on both bitaddress.org and locally, am i hashing it correctly? because according to deedbot it should be 1PNuo5NYHJdmwwPYnBhABW7oie9Y2yKsa9
davout: treating the hash as compressed private key yields another address but still not the one i was expecting
punkman: davout: sha256 of bundle is the secret exponent
davout: punkman: do you manage to independently verify the bundle of the #379347 block?
trinque: I'll get to this in just a bit
trinque: davout: here's some python source that works
trinque: curl deedurl | python get_addr.py # will yield what's on deedbot.org
jurov: sigh..kakobrekla seems b-a wiki banned me again
jurov: (just wanted to add above)
punkman: davout, curl -s
http://deedbot.org/bundle-379497.txt | sha256sum -> 2cdc25c99e4d408b359a4bc168911ad5b51a1a885b09e63c7e951499b29d59b5 which indeed gives me the correct address 18dsNRqPSDeALgGLHxv7Fj4RWWKMHBtHzX
davout: punkman: what about the one i mentioned, specifically
punkman: davout: you need the whole bundle, can't verify individual deeds
davout: there's only one deed in that bundle
davout: am i missing something obvious here ?
punkman: yes, there are 2 deeds in that one
davout: that's what i thought :D
jurov: kakobrekla: ty, i hope you relaxed it a bit
kakobrekla: jurov i added your ip to 'pls not to ban these folks' list
jurov: trinque there's supposedly a faq for deedbot, where?
trinque: davout: that is a url for a particular deed
davout: trinque: i tried with that too
punkman: davout: maybe you are generating compressed pubkeys
trinque: 18dsNRqPSDeALgGLHxv7Fj4RWWKMHBtHzX
davout: punkman: i looked at both, and trinque's script is also reporting a different address than the one i see on the deedbot page
trinque: davout: you are using the python I provided?
davout: >>> 177pJRcS7ZScLPaPB9FfDWotEQddhPkvc9
trinque: 1PNuo5NYHJdmwwPYnBhABW7oie9Y2yKsa9
trinque: side note of yey people are trying to verify the thing, which is very important.
☟︎ trinque: davout: what was the issue?
davout: i was hashing "404 page not found" basically
davout: i assumed without thinking that removing the "-1" at the end of the deed URL would yield the bundle
trinque: oh I overlooked that entirely as well
davout: and the 404 wasn't obvious using curl
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pete_dushenski: lulz of the day : 'hanson brothers' are still touring.
pete_dushenski: usgavin wouldn't suffer any from hosting fillies in mehico for a private concert, meet + greet (+bang) like these kids
pete_dushenski: "Police took a substantial amount of marijuana and what Jose said was about $10,000 in cash. The arrest report listed the cash at $4,670. Jose said he never got his money back."
pete_dushenski: "Often,” Futterman continued, “prisoners aren’t entered into the central booking system until they’re being processed – which doesn’t occur at Homan Square. They’re supposed to begin that processing right away, under CPD procedures, and at Homan Square the reality is, that isn’t happening or is happening sporadically and inconsistently, which leads to the whole find-your-client game.”"
mircea_popescu: you're held at a secret location ? great, kill some guys. what are they gonna do now, expect the rules they were off to protect them ?
mircea_popescu: "the rules" are there to protect the fucking cops, wtf.
mike_c: omg, trilema footnotes now have footnotes, in *even smaller* font.
mike_c: this will continue until footnotes become the size of 1 atom, and then the black hole sucks earth
mike_c: :) you're as old as me, how the hell do you read these things?
mike_c: did romanian girls used to fill out all those stupid personality quizes too? and you know what a texas dip is. sometimes I think you gain knowlege by some odd vampiric process.
mircea_popescu: and you are exactly right : when i get a new girl in my clutches for the first week or two i suck her brain out through her earlobes.
jurov: pete_dushenski: on it, hit another glitch
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: one chapter closed, and another opened.
mircea_popescu: this is what we got for the fucking september. CIA "directors".
pete_dushenski: same at retail level. local bank : "oh we only carry $2`500 cash so that's your max withdrawal per day"
pete_dushenski: also, atm reduced from $1k max per day to motherfucking "suggested max" of $800.
pete_dushenski: dear fiatists : start stocking up cash now. not later. now.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the problem with cash is that if the sovereign withdraws support you're left with pretty paper
mircea_popescu: and it would seem the usg is going towards withdrawing support.
mircea_popescu: you can't actually pay your taxes in cash. so cash is not actually legal tender. so why bother ?
ascii_field: ' The tweet had disappeared from view from US, in Appelbaum's feed. From these posts,
ascii_field: and my own work, it appears the issue was not limited to only one ISP (it affected both CenturyLink
ascii_field: and Verizon), to one browser (Firefox, Chrome, IE and Opera were tried), one operating system (it
ascii_field: affected both Windows and Android), or one login (at least 3 different users affected, I was also
ascii_field: unaffected whilst logged in, but still using tor). It was also not a case of tor vs non-tor (US tor exits
ascii_field: affected, as were my regular home IP addresses). Apparent location of the user's IP address seemed to
ascii_field: be the main factor. Germans could see it the post, Americans couldn't.'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sure you can pay taxes in cash, no ? show up to bank teller with cash and 'pay bill' assuming you have account there
mircea_popescu: no, irs has cash payment office, you go there and give them cash. that's "cash is accepted as tax payment".
ascii_field: so ~that~ must be where all the poor idiots with suitcases of benjies were going
mircea_popescu: like you know, when i buy a pair of shoes in cash, i go into the shoe shop, fish out some bills.
ascii_field: before being picked up by robb^H^H^H^Hpolicew
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but tax collector doesn't have own branch office
☟︎ mircea_popescu: as it is right now, cash and tide are equally money (ie, not accepted as tax payment), but one's useful and the other's paper.
mircea_popescu: it's really very simple : either item X can be used to pay taxes or it can not.
pete_dushenski: so what, i fly to ottawa and drop off suitcase of bills ?
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "i could read the code but i'm lazy" and "you can't read the code" also.
kakobrekla: sounds more like a lottery thing - no office but you can buy a ticket at any gas station
kakobrekla: can you get lottery ticket with tide at the gas station?
mircea_popescu: i bought it first. then it didn't work, so i returned it. lol.
mircea_popescu: and didn't even ask for the receipt. which is good, as he hadn't given me one.
mircea_popescu: 20yo chicks mostly go to the gym to take sweatpants selfies for facebook, don't they.
mircea_popescu: "oh, btw, derp in government wants a special pass for burning man!!"
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mircea_popescu: anyway, that homan square thing sounds like an amateur-run ransom operation.
mircea_popescu: the serbs did a lot better during the war. do muricans suck at EVERYTHING they do ? or just the things that one can hear about ?
pete_dushenski: " Al, I didn’t know Betty had any relatives in town. I saw her with what must have been her nephew down at the bar. They look like they have a very close relationship."
punkman: passive-aggresive snitching might have been a better name for it
mircea_popescu: well, teens and ghetto niggers. whadda ya want. this passes for crafty.
punkman: is there a single good example of the accidental-snitch in there?
mircea_popescu: imo the best common one is, husband keeps insistinting to take wife to strip club, she eventually relents, dumbass takes her to familiar ground, woman notices.
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 16:35:18; mircea_popescu: the question is, why don't the prisoners kill some cops ?
ascii_field: (mega-seekrit: most prisoners are not houdini)
mircea_popescu: are we talking of the same obese cops ? the same sloppy idiots who can't get their own paper work in order 50% of the time so pretty much everything that goes to a judge gets thrown out ?
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mircea_popescu: coderman is pressuring the right spots, but with so far dismal results.
mircea_popescu: MOSTLY because the derps don't know what they should be "upvoting". obviously the guardian's not gonna be talking about this.
mircea_popescu: unless to do one of their bullshit burial pieces, of course.
mircea_popescu: the correct reaction to nsa is to foia the shit out of it.
mircea_popescu: for as long as it's not receiving in excess of 1 bn requests a year, the populace's failing at its chosen game
ascii_field: foia is a palliative circus which exists at usg's pleasure.
mircea_popescu: which is WHY i say "kill the cop". you wanna be all civilised and shit, better than a 16 yo ghetto rat, then you foia the shit out of the nsa, to the point of driving it out of existence.
mircea_popescu: in neither case do you go on the alf pipe "mechanisms don't exist".
mircea_popescu: at the very least 2x as firmly embedded as the current nail.
ascii_field: let's ask chaka zulu about 'wars are won by damage!'
mircea_popescu: "Since it is unlikely we will be able to provide a complete response
mircea_popescu: within the 20 working days stipulated by the Act, you have the right to
mircea_popescu: consider this a denial and may appeal on this basis to the NRO Appeal Review
mircea_popescu: Panel, 14675 Lee Road, Chantilly, VA 20151-1715 after the initial 20 working
mircea_popescu: day period has elapsed. It would seem more reasonable, however, to allow us
mircea_popescu: sufficient time to continue processing your request and respond as soon as
mircea_popescu: we can. Unless we hear from you otherwise, we will assume that you agree
mircea_popescu: and will continue processing your FOIA request on this basis. You will have
mircea_popescu: the right to appeal any denial of records after you receive a final response
mircea_popescu: " Based upon the information provided, you have been placed in the "other" category of requesters, which means you are responsible for the cost of search time exceeding two hours ($44.00/hour) and reproduction fees ($.15 per page) exceeding 100 pages. We will notify you if it appears that we will meet or exceed our $25.00 minimum billing threshold in processing your request." <<< where's the "blockchain technologee"
shinohai: Maybe Ethereum has a solution.
pete_dushenski: from canada revenue agency website : "Do not mail us cash or include it with your return."
pete_dushenski: says nothing about "don't fly to our nearest office and drop off suitcase"
shinohai: Mail them the fee all in Canadian pennies pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: "A payment in foreign funds will be accepted. However, the exchange rate for converting the payment to Canadian dollars is determined by the financial institution at the time it processes your payment." <<
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski that settles it : only "financial institution" dollars accepted, aka e-dollars. your cash is worthless.
shinohai: Wow, I should have never moved out of Mom's house then I could afford to commission a buttload of spanking art.
ascii_field: 'A perfect example of the perils faced by researchers was provided in a separate talk at Virus Bulletin by Costin Raiu, director of Kaspersky Lab’s Global Research and Analysis Team. Raiu revealed that when he was involved in the analysis of Stuxnet a few years ago, someone broke into his house and left a rubber cube with the message “take a break” written on it.'
mircea_popescu: is this entire "apt" thing the hangout repackaging of raiu's earlier psychosis ?
mircea_popescu: (and no, the "apts don't exist" "apts exist" debate is not meaningful. some things exist, unrelatedly to the brand and independent of it. the brand however exists for the reason brands exist.)
ascii_field: nah, it's a seek000rity-industry catchword
mircea_popescu: yeah but recently it found a lot of mass market currency
ascii_field: originally had a meaning: shops with $maxint funding and complete vertical integration for virii production (pipeline of 0day mining, proof of concept, weaponization, deployment) etc.
mircea_popescu: now it means "magical undefeatable foreign body - like that thing ruiu had that nobody else could find".
mircea_popescu: and it matches exactly the psychological profile of webtards / "dudes too dumb to sling dope". "oh, there's nothing we could have done anyway, best go back to starbux"\
mircea_popescu: "everybody knows that everything exists at the pleasure of usg hurr durr" sorta thing.
pete_dushenski: "If your device is more than five years old, your system may need an upgrade. Over the next two years, the computing industry will eliminate certain security protocols that are more than 10 years old. The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) regularly updates its secure online services to ensure they feature the highest security standard, which is Transport Layer Security (TLS) 1.2." << hah
pete_dushenski: just flitted through the canadian tax code, nothing in there about receiver general not accepting cash, nor anything on cra website about 'we don't ACCEPT cash' just 'don't send cash, send cheque'
pete_dushenski: ima talk to my accountant and see. if he sees no reason to object, ima self-experiment
pete_dushenski: quite so. like my current attempts to have 'madcatz' cough up checksums/signatures for their software.
pete_dushenski: so far : "we answer almost all tickets in 1 day" and it's been 4...
Xplosionist: I have a question about a bitbet funding issue.
Xplosionist: I proposed a bet last week, but I think my funding of the bet was delayed too long, and the bet proposal was eventually rejected.
Xplosionist: But, AFAICT, I'm still out the 0.5 BTC I sent.
mircea_popescu: why not "i sent so and so on this date included in this block here's the txn and etc
Xplosionist: Apologies, making the best. The proposal was the Bernie Sanders 2016.
Xplosionist: Transaction that attempt to fund it was 3c0682f82f9cb446adc53d585e0a986bdfac3aa9325c6b4544413ba82057ddaf which appears to have been successful
Xplosionist: (blockchain.info link upcoming, darned internet slowness)
kakobrekla: twas rejected before deposit confirmed
Xplosionist: K. Thanks. I saw a "conflicted" report in my client, but wasn't 100% sure that meant what I hoped it did.
Xplosionist: Where do you see that on the blockchain.info page, for my education?
Xplosionist: @kakobrekla, oh you mean the bet was rejected. Right. That I'd guessed.
Xplosionist: And, the other comment was about it being somewhat the opposite side of an existing bet.
Xplosionist: So, happy to not have the proposet bet exist now, I want to find out where my 0.5 BTC is.
kakobrekla: in short: mods came to the proposal before the 0conf did
kakobrekla: the 0 stands for 0 and the conf stands for confirmations
mircea_popescu: when you propose a bet, you can put some money on it to get it started
kakobrekla: Xplosionist you will get refunded .5 shortly.
Xplosionist: Right. I attempted to do that, but it was delayed too long.
mircea_popescu: but in general : pay a reasonable fee, this "slow tx" thing is bad business.
Xplosionist: No, I sent from my bitcoin core client, but it wasn't caught up, and it didn't realize it would take that long to send it out.
Xplosionist: I don't honestly know. Hours, to be sure, but less than a day.
kakobrekla: i dont think the fees matter (yet). 0conf takes zero conf txes, meaning it just has to propagate, not be included in bc
kakobrekla: so far bs txes seem to propagate just fine.
Xplosionist: my client says 10/13/15 12:50, and I think that's 00:00-4.
Xplosionist: Right. And, I'd expected my client to send it right away, just not to know about it's confirmation until it caught up.
Xplosionist: But, maybe the bitcoin core client doesn't work the way I thought it did.
Xplosionist: Oh, wait, you can't actually _send_ a transaction without being in-sync, can you?
Xplosionist: Oh. Well, then to what i said before. I expected it would work.
shinohai: Don't even need core client to sign a tx and push it.
Xplosionist: shinohai: yeah, but core client is what I had/have, and what I typically use. Just habit.
shinohai: I don't have a "latest" copy of it. 0.11.0 crashed on me several times, not that I needed it anyway.
Xplosionist: i have 0.11.0, it's working okay for me on multiple macs. haven't tried it on other OSes.
Xplosionist: thx, yeah, i see it in my core client to. It's in sync atm. :-)
Xplosionist: thanks much all. And, for better and worse, I'll make sure my client is in sync before trying to propose a bet in the future.
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kakobrekla: <Xplosionist> Oh, wait, you can't actually _send_ a transaction without being in-sync, can you? < not sure if those are actually being broadcast before it syncs
kakobrekla: i have some vague memory telling me this was the case at some point
Xplosionist: heh. thx. afternoon, diametric. howdy asciilifeform
diametric: oh I didn't realize he wasn't voiced when I said hello.
diametric: would explain why he didn't reply hehe
Xplosionist: i was when you _said_ hello. just not when I tried to reply.
ascii_field: how's life in your corner of the world, Xplosionist ?
Xplosionist: was meaning to ping diametric about stuff today anyway. been a long time since we've chatted.
ascii_field: Xplosionist: your luck day then! there he is.
ascii_field: analmaster is sitting in the room with me l0l
diametric: is he here to share tips and techniques?
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 17:09:05; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but tax collector doesn't have own branch office
mircea_popescu: he's in canada. their housing doesn't have its own housing there
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 17:12:07; mircea_popescu: go to gas station, pay your taxes ?
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: there are shithole shops everywhere that will cut a cheque to arbitrary address for 110% in benjies
BingoBoingo: Still beats the hell out of Western Union. Liquor store had all sorts of cash services, run by a few cool Persian fellows.
BingoBoingo: Prolly could have sent money internationally from there.
BingoBoingo: Like Bitcoin, but without a blockchain to keep everyone honest.
BingoBoingo: Also Chicago's Hoffman Square prison camp old News.
BingoBoingo: Right, Guardian just let it get forgot, presenting again as "fresh"
ascii_field: sorta like president johnson's 'state of emergency.'
mircea_popescu: your hunger doesn't go away because "that's enough, i've been hungry for six hours now". on the fucking contrary.,
Xplosionist: Really? Like my debt will go away after 6 months if I just become used to it ?
ascii_field: (mortgage, 'student loan', tax. most of the stuff people actually owe $maxint for)
ascii_field: well, when you move to mozambique it goes away
ascii_field: recently, american tax collectors started going after people for debts of their long-dead parents
ascii_field: aha, by being subtracted from your paycheque
ascii_field: (this is how adjudicated debts are collected in usa)
ascii_field: yes if you're mircea_popescu and live on sunlight, this is not about you.
mircea_popescu: the way debts work since the invention of the concept is you gotta have something.
Xplosionist: If you get a paycheque, that counts as something I guss.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the concept that you can't build muscle and lose weight at the same time ?
mircea_popescu: pick anabolic or catabolic. if you want a paycheck, why do you have debts ?
mircea_popescu: if you have debts, why the fuck are you getting a payckech.
ascii_field: usually the latter is contingent on the former
ascii_field: no plebe gets actual hard cash just for the asking
ascii_field: aha, so they can start the 40% interest chumpatron going early in life
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this system is so beautifully modelled in eulora... you can either overcraft or undercraft
mircea_popescu: but if you do either, gotta do it with ALL the elements. you cant mix above avg x with under average y, it'll hurt.
mircea_popescu: there's more cases of people who ate policemen than cases of people who starved in the us.
ascii_field recalls a famous case in su where one fella did exactly that
ascii_field: he ran a kind of 'retreat', exclusive, posh, for high-level police types
ascii_field: eventually somebody noticed that they never came back.
ascii_field: which he'd been not only eating, but feeding to his 'guests'
mircea_popescu: i heard the story also but always figured it for ethnofantasy
ascii_field: fwiw i have no solid proof that it took place.
ascii_field: may be a legend, from zeitgeist of the time, so to speak
Xplosionist: But the pork/policemen analogy is too fun.
diametric: Surprisingly there aren't that many police deaths in the US per year.
mircea_popescu: for every 5mn gestapo anon reports there was a shocking 0 coups on hitler's lyf.
diametric: I should say, despite the claims of "most dangerous job"
Xplosionist: "most unpleasant job" might be as accurate.
Xplosionist: I mean, I'm very glad we have people that do it. Most of whom are actually nice and do a good job. But, wow, I would never want to deal with as much crap as you have to put up with fore that job.
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mircea_popescu: depends what you mean by "policeman". the legitimate job (beat cop, giving directions and taking drunks home) is gone. the paper pusher job is whatever, another social worker. the DEA agent / carl force IV thing is just a different jolly roger color scheme for the same thuggery.
mircea_popescu: the suits in washington have more to do with jpm and gs than all of this
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mircea_popescu: i've got the best fucking weather, it's incredible. constantly 16-18ish, nice breeze, beautiful sun...
ascii_field: '(Added 2015) Some of the documents that we previously received through FOIA suggested that all major manufacturers of color laser printers entered a secret agreement with governments to ensure that the output of those printers is forensically traceable. Although we still don't know if this is correct, or how subsequent generations of forensic tracking technologies might work, it is probably safest to assume that all
ascii_field: modern color laser printers do include some form of tracking information that associates documents with the printer's serial number. (If any manufacturer wishes to go on record with a statement to the contrary, we'll be happy to publish that here.)'
mircea_popescu: o hey, did ethereum just break through it's record low ?
mircea_popescu: you get the tool, plug it into your linux laptop and go.
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 19:53:28; mircea_popescu: jus don't answer the mail, it'll take care of itself.
ascii_field: the fact that your signing up for 23andMe or Ancestry.com means that you and all of your current and future family members could become genetic criminal suspects is not something most users probably have in mind when trying to find out where their ancestors came from.'
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before a guy starts sending all the companies scam "copyright infringement" notices and invitations to pay $600 to make the embarassment go away, like those twerps trawling the noob torrent folk.
ascii_field: ^ summary: 'airbnb' etc. users install 'toiletcams'
mircea_popescu: gotta a) keep driving down the capital cost of pron ; b) acclimate the womenz to their nude future.
ascii_field: jp, i'm told, is 20 yrs ahead in this metric
ascii_field: to the point of uninstrumented women's toilets being a rarity in some places
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many 4th wave feminists fighting rape on campus and what other derpage realise that their daughters... well no. their nieces will live their life naked.
punkman: do the japs still censor their porn?
ascii_field: 'Surprisingly, Dropcam’s privacy policy doesn’t warn customers that the government could seize the cloud-based video from their cameras or tap into their live-streams, and doesn’t state under which circumstances the company would comply with such a request. (Update: And law enforcement has come calling with warrants.)' << ahahaha
mircea_popescu: at this point needing a warning that the cloud is maintained by and for the nsa is like needing a warning that if you marry an american you'll be stuck with an ineffectual narcissist, or that if you save in dollars you'll end up worse than the manic collector with alzhimers and his piles of old newspapers, or all sorts of similarly obvious stuff.
mircea_popescu: "i'm going to build a successful company - venture capital got my back"
mircea_popescu: "i won't starve, i got a college education / 401k / my gold coins collection"
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to see how well teh entire "i am hoarding gold" thing plays out.
mircea_popescu: hint : people don't accept one oz in trade for 25 bux.
ascii_field: perhaps now can believe the 'rentalstarter' thing !
ascii_field: people are rightfully suspicious of 'free lunch'
ascii_field: 'hundred people rejected genuine nigerian prince inheritance! nyooz at 11!'
mircea_popescu: there';s nothinfg rightful in not having $25 disposable to play, which is ALL this is about.
ascii_field: l0l who the everliving fuck doesn't have $ 25 ?
mircea_popescu: there's also nothing rightful in the unmitigated audacity of daring to not conform to the environment
ascii_field: there is typically at least twice this in the pan of any respectable panhandler even here in the suburbs.
mircea_popescu: it's not, "money, i could do anything with". it's "money, i'll buy a toke with"
ascii_field: reminds me of a product i suggested to a fella in meatspace - an iphone-shaped container that conveniently holds 800 usd
mircea_popescu: if i was younger and somehow the ipod thing actually put any drag on my mating, that's pretty much what i'd have done.
ascii_field: this thought was inspired by learning that telcos in usa suddenly abolished the 'contract subsidy' thing
mircea_popescu: "yeah baby, his daddy bought him an iphone ; i ordered this thing to hold 800 bucks. pick a cock to suck."
ascii_field: now when you walk in, you either pay the 800 or agree to the '35/mo forever' claptrap
mircea_popescu: note that 35 forever is actually less revenue than they made leasing old rotary phones.
ascii_field: but yes, my first thought was, 'and they laughed at lucent'
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mircea_popescu: incidentally, i had the most ustardian experience in argentina yet. so i want planters. small shop down the street, mostly closed, someone's house. finally it's open, i pick the planters, they're 90 each. i say i want 5, they only have 3. i scratch my head and leave.
mircea_popescu: go to a different shop, a little further. advertisement on wall, "if you want this shop to survive, don't ask for a discount".
mircea_popescu: apparently im expected to give a shit because we're in california-palermo or something ?!
mircea_popescu: shitty service ; old confused woman reads off a tiny script on a lined paper thing, apparently the EXACT SAME planter is 283.
mircea_popescu: i ask her if she's stupid. she pretends to not know what i'm saying. i leave.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile that stupid shit is 30 cents each off the boat.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder what a world with ACTUAL 30% gross margins would look like.
mircea_popescu: you know, what it mostly was between the time of the lombards and the time of the spanyards.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of these latter : i wonder how many people realise that the us complaint with spanish administration in florida was that it's TOO LAX ? as in, not oppressing the land nearly enough ? which is why they invaded.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, the very amusing situation where people (including derps with aspirations of culture and intelligence a la orwell) fell for the very obvious trick of pretending that the nazi/fascist police state stuff was not merely the germans/italians being TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED, ie, doing exactly what britain, the us, russia will do themselves later on, but somehow it were specific about them. sort-of like t
mircea_popescu: he chinese of the 70s trying to pretend the usians are bad BECAUSE of computers. as if "computerization" is a bad thing in and of itself, not merely a natural evolution in which thosew guys happened to have got the drop on our guys.
mircea_popescu: "o look, X discovered the tank before us. how evil is X of the tanks!!11".
ascii_field: (in his 'computing power and human reason')
mircea_popescu: might as well be in 7 grade, "o look, jane got tits! how ridiculous jane is!11"
ascii_field: or, if you'd rather go back in time, the situation with catholic church and gunpowder.
mircea_popescu: that's how the hell ended up containing half sulphur by mass
mircea_popescu: ftr, romanian hell not being too well connected to the needs of catholicism still mostly fills the space with smoala, which is a heavy tar.
mircea_popescu: the thing that actually cvasi-crystallizes if allowed to cool, and it cracks
mircea_popescu: meaning they steal, rape, arson and kill << burn and pillage eh ? you don't arson anymore than you disease.
ascii_field: incidentally, any self-respecting bomb craftsman puts in a fluorescent trigger for the xray schmucks
ascii_field: ergo the vans have precious little to do with bomb
mircea_popescu: deodata is not suddenly, in that contexts, it's "at the same time". english apparently fails synonymy. At the same time, simultaneously and concurrently i guess.
ascii_field: and more pertinent re: illicit (in nyc - just about any) small arms, as well as benjie briefcases, etc
gabrielradio: mircea_popescu yea, it didn't sound right indeed.
mircea_popescu: anyway. possibly one of the hardest pieces to translate, it's so well flown in romanian...
gabrielradio: quite so. how would you go translate "pai nu?!"
mircea_popescu: "which were not his, but some young lady's" << "belonged not to him, but to some pretty young thing ..."
mircea_popescu: repetitio est mater crezutio. also needs a note, because if you turn "crezut" into believe it's unobvious wtf crezutio's supposed to be anymnore.
gabrielradio: i had doubts for a second there. i'm still trying to figure out where to go straightforward & where to reconstruct to better cater to the meaning
mircea_popescu: thus satisfying mike_c's legitimate expectation of endless subfootnote footery
ascii_field: claims, 'Its easy-to-read image quickly and clearly reveals threats like explosives, drugs, currency, and trade-fraud items such as alcohol and cigarettes—even in high-throughput environments like border crossings and security checkpoints.'
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 16:42:42; mircea_popescu: rizi tu rizi, harap alb, da' nu-i risul tau.
mircea_popescu: even in the high throughput environments like the Great Toxic Swapm ?
ascii_field: this esp. re: mircea_popescu's earlier observation re: police state hardware.
punkman: I thought backscatter was xrays
ascii_field: punkman: 2nd link shows a standard (transmissive) xray.
punkman: I also thought backscatter couldn't see inside truck
punkman: do you just turn it up to see through metal?
punkman: the nypd people operating the vans must be having a blast with their personal "xray glasses"
ascii_field: ever wonder how they know which car to pop for 100k in benjies ?
punkman: I wonder how aware the ny (drug/money/x) couriers deal with this
mircea_popescu: anyone in nyc not routinely carrying an old suitcase full of cut up old newspaper to bill size is not doing enough for his country.
punkman: I accidentally that sentence
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: old rags lack rare earth pigments, scarcely scatter at all
mircea_popescu: punkman let's put it this way : if they yank any courrier everyone dies. the cops - including all the cops, not just hte ones involved, but everyone in their shift. plus their parents, and their soupses, and the spouse's exes
mircea_popescu: and you can try out the daughters for 20 dollars in bolivia.,
mircea_popescu: now, how many times have you heard of something like this going down ?
ascii_field: why would anyone die? the cops and the couriers work for the same folks, at the end of the day
mircea_popescu: that's approximately the number of times they caught anyone who wasn;t a derp.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field old newspaper and old bills are practically the same iirc.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: mno. american bills are printed on cloth fiber and with rare earth inks (at one point, even paramagnetic)
shinohai: Some article about a tool that is supposed to tell you how long your startup has before the vc money runs out
ascii_field: at any rate, the vans are used to help select folks for 'random traffic stop'
punkman: but that's how we catch teh terrorists!!11
mircea_popescu: "we can't tell you about how we've not caught any terrorists because that would expose our inefficiency to the scrutiny of terrorists encouraging them and thus harm national security"
ascii_field: why would anyone 'hunt terrorists' (who aren't there) when he can hunt fat duffel bags full of benjies.
ascii_field: the new drone ban tastes extra-tasty with the van find
ascii_field: have'em glom onto the vans, playing back recorded obscenities, blinkenlighting.
ascii_field: (would be interesting to see an aerial 'photo' of a major usistan conurbation in xray/gamma spectrum at any event!)
kakobrekla: all you need to do is register a drone and collect the data
mircea_popescu: let's not confuse the most college educated generation in history
ascii_field: pick up 'millimetre-wave' radar for good measure.
ascii_field: finally a good use for autonomous copterbots..
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mircea_popescu: i wonder if adhd is related to cell towers and autism to vaccines or vice versa. hey, that's interesting, x-ray vans.
mircea_popescu: punkman most people who decide to off themselves say "they're going fishing"
ascii_field: though if the chart is to be believed, sometimes they... go logging
punkman: I wonder where all the dead pilots work
punkman: misc. extraction, oil & gas?
mircea_popescu: so politician has to resign because he "cheated" on his wife ? as if fucking is now a crime ? but the thing is... SHE WAS THERE ?
mircea_popescu: she cheated on her while they were tag-teaming some dude together ? wtf ?
mircea_popescu: from tlp, in 2008 : "There is, however, one important unifying characteristic of political infidelities that makes them very different from the average joe on AshleyMadison.com: everyone knows these guys are going to get caught."
mircea_popescu: uh... hazing is the introduction of immature/juvenile individuals to the practices of their kind.
ascii_field: i thought hazing were more of a 'тяжело в учении - легко в бою' kind of thing
mircea_popescu: im thinking more of cheerleader hazing than army stuff. in english iirc that's called pluriously other thnings
ascii_field: just like the 'ipnohe encryption' crock of shit
ascii_field: 'we will save you from usg unless ordered not to by usg so don't be surprised if never. but you can feel great!'
ben_vulpes: "these pants are just like those pants except using pants a makes me feel like a cooler person than pants b"
ben_vulpes: eg "i'm a coke person, not a pepsi person"
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BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> "these pants are just like those pants except using pants a makes me feel like a cooler person than pants b" << Drugs perfected this first: "Heroin feels really good, but Cocaine just always makes me feel more fun"
mircea_popescu: <deedbot-> [Qntra] 78 Months in Prison for Carl Mark Force IV << does he get any "guard" slaves to impregnate ?
BingoBoingo: Only for the black guys. His name is very black, but his skin is insufficiently so.
BingoBoingo: Unless he is hiding a second middle name in there and the full expansion is "Carl Mark 4Real Force IV" and his name alone may be black enough
mircea_popescu: "Adolescence is supposed to be an identity Schrodinger's Cat: multiple simultaneous states which eventually collapse into only one. The goal of adulthood is to let go of the other possible existences and to make the best of the one. A successful adult is one who understands that it doesn't matter which life you ultimately pick, only that you live it well. The same potential for, say, happiness exists whether you are
mircea_popescu: a construction worker, porn actor, or wealthy industrialist."
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: those are /actually different things/, though.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But their Brand identities are distinct.
ben_vulpes: cocaine and heroin only have brands insofar as the usg propaganda machine defines them to.
ben_vulpes: they exist however as entirely seperate things.
ben_vulpes: unlike coca cola and pepsi, which are the same fucking thing.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, does coca cola contribute to global warming ?
ben_vulpes: (and soon, microsofts linux and "linux"!)
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i betcha they're getting carbon credits for sequestering
mircea_popescu: shouldn't they use , i dunno, helium ? to reduce their footprint ?
ben_vulpes: helium's rare and those who use it are evil now, donchano
mircea_popescu would like it if all fizz producers were legally forced to use helium
BingoBoingo: Maybe put Nitrous Oxide in the fizzy drinks, sure makes most people a bit giggly, but worth it for the 1-0.3% of the population that becomes rage monsters on it. Much lulz potential there.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "wake me up when obama finally puts his tiny winer in a blender"
jurov: heh helium won't dissolve in water, i'm +1 with nitrous oxide
jurov: or when feeling particularly enraged, perhaps carbon monoxide can be considered
mircea_popescu: this is like being in 9th grade and discovering the seniors are all playing with stupid fucking barbie dolls. not even like 3rd graders, but like 3rd grade GIRLS
mircea_popescu: jurov carbon monoxide isnt reallty toxic in small doses
BingoBoingo: But how much can you dissolve in the water... prolly more than a small dose.
BingoBoingo: Ah, easier to just fill the cam with liquid carbon monoxide then
mircea_popescu: basically if you drink more than a coupla liters in six hours (saturated) you're done.