mircea_popescu: how the fuck can anyone read that ~and stop there~ ? and yet, they can. they do.
mircea_popescu: question i guess very similar to "how can anyone read algebra I and stop there".
mircea_popescu: merely wondering "hm, i wonder wtf?!" is already ~one in a thousand~. these aren't invented numbers, this isn't a manner of speech. two in 2184.
trinque imagines a circus act where person-of-walmart is brought out in chains, made to attempt pants, abused by onlookers as they fail.
mircea_popescu: it's actually a largely unexplored space, "what can girl do while handcuffed".
mircea_popescu: just as "how do you think your life would go if you may not use furniture" and such wonders.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 18:07 mircea_popescu: you can't do self-amputation.
trinque: mircea_popescu: not yet but certainly will digest it and respond.
trinque: appears to be the culmination of many different threads, vtronic www, vtronic portage, much else.
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874742 <-- oops, apologies for the trouble. this makes perfect sense, my initial impression was that trinque was eager to get rid of the rss piece in deedbot, but some sort of transition seems reasonable.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 16:54 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874708 << lmao this is a little brusque isn't it. suppose you disable it in this feedbot thing we now see for the first time. let it do pm only, work out a roadmap to switch over with trinque that consists of something else than straight bombardment, and THEN.
spyked: trinque, mircea_popescu: one thing I could do is have it deliver a small number of feeds (e.g. thetarpit, since that's under my control anyway) and have it subscribed to the others whenever you feel like. for now, all delivery to #trilema is disabled (and I'll bring the bot back on mircea_popescu's sign).
☟︎ spyked: ftr, feedbot also sends republican rss in castle #spyked, for potentially interested testers.
trinque: spyked: point is a simple "hey trinque, lets make the swap at $date, and get the PM subscriptions ported over meanwhile"
☟︎ trinque: you know, talking to people, not being radio dark for months, that sort of thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 19:32 asciilifeform: ( replaced the google liquishit with a simple and humane kindergarden arithmetic thing )
trinque: ^ I'll go over this with a caffeinated brain later, but wanted to get the thing into hands immediately. Let me know if you reproduce my genesis.vpatch folks.
trinque: asciilifeform: we had a thread on the stepping down before, jumping directly to 4.9.4 does not work on musl. not a clue why.
trinque: and the plan is indeed to get ave1's in, and I invite him to write the ebuild. the point of what I released is to preserve the found item, can now start changing it
☟︎ trinque: long term the "bootstrap.sh" will be converted to an installer which presumes an existing working cuntoo, and that installer will come as an ebuild vpatch atop genesis
trinque: asciilifeform: right, that's one reason for keeping an ssltron for now
trinque: yep, and ebuild tree and src tree really have no business being separate, aside from preserving the imperial "there is a package repository for all-of-us"
☟︎ phf: i have a poc, that uses vpy as an alternative to EGIT_REPO_URI. you put all of the vpatches and sigs into /usr/portage/distfiles/vpatches and you have your wot in /etc/wot and you say V_HEAD='foobar' and it attempts to press whatever's in distfiles to the corresponding head, and then use it as a build target. it works, but i'm not sure that's the right direction..
☟︎ trinque: phf: sounds awesome, would like to eyeball it
trinque: emerge's last act oughta be its own brain transplant.
phf: trinque: i'll pull it out, right after my move. flight's only few days away, and i'm only half way through gutting the apartment.
phf: asciilifeform: done, can you please check that it's correct, i'm doing it from console only linux and my update function said it picked up a patch, that i thought was already there..
phf: borrow expr, ah i see what happened you renamed it to .kv from diana_coman's original
phf: asciilifeform: i ended up dumping one of them since they are bitwise identical
phf: i'm not particularly keen on the whole archivist aspect of it, these are curated live artifacts, no need to be too pedantic with them
phf: it has a backlog of love also, one thing that i want to wire next is a search for a keyword, gives back a list of patches of a list of files that match. i implemented it already, but haven't wired it in
phf: yeah and btcbase is not there yet
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> will also be interesting to see if trb can sit down on trinque's libressl thing, instead of the frozen ancient openssl it currently goes with << I run a bitcoind linked against libressl 2.5.5 and so far it hasn't forked
☟︎ trinque: libressl is being decrufted by the openbsd folks, result of which is that several pretty nasty bugs in openssl didn't affect libressl since they forked it. I can't vouch for the work, and it's certainly up for debate.
phf: asciilifeform: presumably entire portage tree pulls from
https:// unless trinque also hosting a mirror of everything (i haven't looked yet)
☟︎ trinque: much as the openbsd folks shoot themselves in the foot politically, I don't know that I trust them less than w/e derps contribute to openssl
trinque: you can build this thing without nic turned on
trinque: I've been building with unshare -n , uses the linux namespaces thing to detach the process from the network stack (fig leaf yes, but at least was a decent way to test)
phf: trinque: how does that work with genesis, is it some other mechanism than having all the files in /distfiles? (i'm curious, but i don't have time to investigate)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-29 01:57 mircea_popescu: if anyone still cares, freebsd 6.82%, openbsd 93.17%
trinque: mircea_popescu: just their episode with you was all.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose this is the issue, i had mental image similar to what asciilifeform discusses, "openbsd the ancient artefact" ; was discussion more about usg.openbsd replacement in recent years ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-29 16:34 mircea_popescu: trinque except you gotta maintain openbsd now.
trinque: mircea_popescu: thought there was some kind of "we don't want your money" instance, but now don't recall details
trinque: the openbsd folks took openssl and forked it, does not need openbsd to build
trinque: it's just a thinned out openssl.
trinque: if we're taking one, I think it's a candidate for taking.
trinque: correct, that'd be the next step
mircea_popescu: trinque in summary, the thing flew as such : 1. de raadt announced "openbsd dead as going concern without like 20k" ; 2. nobody cared ; 3. somebody brought it here ; 4. i paid his 20k ; 5. complex face-saving dance of usg commenced, very much blueprint for all later
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874881 ; 6. i told them exactly how unimpressed i am. which i still am.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 18:31 asciilifeform: d the online payment processor Stripe each pledged to donate $50,000 a year to Koch’s project.' etc
mircea_popescu: but it's not exactly clear what relationship there is, between the 2015 died-anyway would-be openbsd continuator, and the 1990s "fuck windows" alf's-apple-notion competitor.
phf: recently carmack donated to openbsd, they made a very big deal out if it being "the first individual silver level donor"
mircea_popescu: phf and i'm entirely unimpressed with carmack, either.
diana_coman: trinque, that looks great; if I understand correctly, the archive there contains the means to a. install cuntoo b. make the genesis of cuntoo/portage that could in principle be used to move an existing gentoo to cuntoo; is this correct?
☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: he "won" the suite, presumably spent fortune on lawyers, but donated immediately after.
trinque: diana_coman: it produces the genesis.vpatch that represents the state of the bootstrapped system. porting an existing gentoo over has additional complications. in theory you could yes, introduce what's in /cuntoo/ to an existing machine, but I think this deserves its own guide.
trinque: if you're feeling adventurous, read the bootstrap scripts and it should indicate what'd need to happen to convert a living system, but I had the thing generate a new bootable blockdev because of these hairy complications
a111: Logged on 2015-01-12 18:59 mircea_popescu: bitcoin_charlie didn't you make a plea bargain ?
diana_coman: aha; (tbh it seemed like that but I was being optimistic for once); so atm I'd need to basically nuke s.mg's test machine to move it on to cuntoo
mircea_popescu: a sort of philosophical zombie, vessels carrying forth the voice of collective motherhood.
mircea_popescu: yeah well, it's hard. gradient rising boils all frogs.
trinque: diana_coman: not necessarily, but I'd want to write you a guide before encouraging you to attempt (or have you write a guide using a machine locally)
diana_coman: the test before the test; well, yes, I'll have to
trinque: for now I'd like folks to confirm they get the same genesis.vpatch out the other end
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 13:44 spyked: trinque, mircea_popescu: one thing I could do is have it deliver a small number of feeds (e.g. thetarpit, since that's under my control anyway) and have it subscribed to the others whenever you feel like. for now, all delivery to #trilema is disabled (and I'll bring the bot back on mircea_popescu's sign).
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:05 asciilifeform: in other lulz,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874898 worx a+++ : prior, there was always 1 or 2 spamola in the mod queue erry day, ~through the broken google liquishit~, whereas nao -- none
diana_coman: asciilifeform, smg's test machine is running proto-cuntoo so it's not just any gentoo really
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:29 trinque: and the plan is indeed to get ave1's in, and I invite him to write the ebuild. the point of what I released is to preserve the found item, can now start changing it
mircea_popescu: nah, the kind which were repaired dozens of times over the generations, where "repair" was interpreted to mean "add a mechanism to compensate for perceived errors".
diana_coman: asciilifeform, correct re 1 disk; for the rest I'll have to decide but first step has to be testing trinque's new item locally anyway
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:30 asciilifeform: will also be interesting to see if trb can sit down on trinque's libressl thing, instead of the frozen ancient openssl it currently goes with
mircea_popescu: not even there, just patch it to use our own ~correct~ code.
trinque: this is too much ocenboiling for the first patch, akin to fixing everything wrong with trb in its genesis
mircea_popescu: trinque not in any case discussing first patch. just the roadmap.
trinque: ah, don't mind me then. I agree entirely.
mircea_popescu: there's 0 pressure to "put everything in first fuck", you realise.
mircea_popescu: certainly no tolerance of "i'm waiting on fondling for the fuck to get here"
a111: Logged on 2018-11-20 19:39 mircea_popescu: it's the currency of the republic, you're so surprises it follows the flow and ebb of the very republic in question ?
mircea_popescu: but yes, as far as trb work is concerned, a) taking off the bulidroot process because b) move it to cuntoo and also c) replace ssl dependency with one file, <1k loc are the priorities.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform constant time is a d) in that scheme. though i guess c-d may well package.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at this point, it's irrelevant. there's ~10 bucks of kentucky happy meals on the putative "other networks".
mircea_popescu: see ? there's immense benefits to "exchange dropped!!!"
mircea_popescu: ideally, with as little re-factoring of trb components as possible.
mircea_popescu: we made our own keccak, we made our own serpent, you made / are making our own rsa -- time for our own ecc.
mircea_popescu: and yes, ffa majorily useful, and no, not necessarily against writing for it. but there may be a timing issue (trb that takes > minute to check block is useless)
mircea_popescu: politically, ffa is fine. practically, it might not work.
phf: asciilifeform: apropos i've attempted two years ago to do a rewrite for my cl-bitcoin, got bogged down in group theory, at this point still trying to power through an "introduction to group theory" text book.
mircea_popescu: phf need i tell you how cool'd it have been had you said this 2016 rather than 2018 ?
mircea_popescu: bug free, fast enough, etc. not like we're pressed by anything here, not like trb ceases to exist while we cut its guts open and so on.
phf: mircea_popescu: i did, i believe the reaction at the time was "let's see what'll come out of it", nothing came out of it though: cl-bitcoin in it's half baked state is using cffi to openssl
mircea_popescu: i'd have thought with all the lisp fans it'd have spurned some fermentation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform don't you love how this here tmsr eventually uses all your ruins ?
phf: there's much general fascination with lisp, but when we had to get shit done, turns out many limitations
mircea_popescu: whole lisp community reminds me of teenager females and their interest in sex.
mircea_popescu: "so you're a femme fatale ?" "i sure am, mister" "take off your clothes" "whoa"
a111: Logged on 2018-11-25 06:35 venatiodecorus: honestly tho mircea_popescu jamie knows her shit
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 21:47 Framedragger: this isis girl in tor reads crypto papers and implements them and runs their bridges infrastructure which uses its own nifty things (hashrings for distributing bridge nodes etc), i'm quite certain she hasn't heard
phf: i was very much insulated from open sores lisp with acl, just sort of assumed that they were all basically the same. turns out that common lisp world is a cargo cult. for when spec was never supposed to be and all be all: it was a _thin_ common ground of a variety of rich lisp ecosystem. writing _just_ to spec is an exercise in frustration..
trinque: phf: I'm developing a sense that lisp is a thinking tool, not an engineering tool.
mircea_popescu: "this item looks like it was thought in lisp and implemented by lame".
trinque: ada, or insert strictly typed draconian item of choice
mircea_popescu: right, ada sort of fortran-with-real-machine-emulator.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't remember any barf bag of my own!
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:36 trinque: yep, and ebuild tree and src tree really have no business being separate, aside from preserving the imperial "there is a package repository for all-of-us"
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:38 phf: i have a poc, that uses vpy as an alternative to EGIT_REPO_URI. you put all of the vpatches and sigs into /usr/portage/distfiles/vpatches and you have your wot in /etc/wot and you say V_HEAD='foobar' and it attempts to press whatever's in distfiles to the corresponding head, and then use it as a build target. it works, but i'm not sure that's the right direction..
mircea_popescu: i suppose the using of the weird directory structure's an eyesore, but whatever, can be fixed later.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no; possibly having started with Pascal in highschool & the "one programming language per week" crazy uni year of choice -> "stronger stomach", if anything
phf: mircea_popescu: my impression is that trinque has some kind of mechanism of inlining source code into cuntoo, so instead of it being a matrioshka doll of nested vpatches, any new vpatch to cuntoo brings in ebuild AND the already unpacked source code. my approach keeps the vpatches separate from cuntoo: you install cuntoo first, then pull vpatches separately. i haven't looked at cuntoo yet, so i'm not sure how he's doing it though
phf: actually i'm not sure what i just said made any kind of sense. i need to look at cuntoo first, and then reassess what i'm trying to say.
phf: ftr i had no objections to ada either, i suspect the barfs were coming from peanut gallery of people who since dropped off
mircea_popescu: a bit like ye olde "reproduce yahoo messenger login" exercise huh.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:18 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875120 << worked fab for bitbet for YEARS. contrary to ubiquitous claims, web 100% beheaded chickens by mass, nobody can as much as write a line of anything.
mircea_popescu: Only kernels with commit b6a2fea39318 ("mm: variable length argument support", from July 19, 2007) but without commit da029c11e6b1 ("exec:
mircea_popescu: Limit arg stack to at most 75% of _STK_LIM", from July 7, 2017) are exploitable.
mircea_popescu: check it out, the imperial process in full display. 1) introduce bugs ; 2) decade later turn them off ; 3) use md5 hashes for it all.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875158 << this is rapidly becoming an (ill-specified) unsolvable problem. how the fuck is the program supposed to pick the word in the basket that "best goes with the rest of the novel" ? there's a fucking reason for naming conventions.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:17 asciilifeform: phf: imho the correct thing to do, if you have 2 bitwise-identical patches , is to display only 1 ( i'd prefer it be the one using my naming scheme, given as it is my proj, but i also won't cry if it's the other ) -- and the sigs that match it
mircea_popescu: there's somewhere i explain the problem with small children, that they take a look at world around them, which creates a snapshot in their mind that's static, and then they fall over because they don't natively understand that just because the fulcrum's left side is up like the chair next to it is up, nevertheless, the load bearing capacity of the fulcrum is less than a percent of the chairs'.
mircea_popescu: and your preference is not groundless, and soon enough we'll be left with a messy patchwork of nonsense.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the end we can't end up worse off than with hashes or something.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be ~nice~ if you used some kind of sane naming convention ? trb.adding-ffa.alf ? something ?
mircea_popescu: we could also call a fox "da029c11e6b1" ; but instead we say vulpes vulpes for some reason.
a111: 2018-04-14 <davout> should have synced by the end of next week
mircea_popescu: (amusingly, he also pointed out to me that it's not de fun, it's funES!! he's spanish!)
mircea_popescu: (i gotta recall to say /vulˈpɛs/ to the man's face, see what he says)
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:30 asciilifeform: i presently suspect that this is because gnathtml uses gcc's AST for the input data, rather than the raw proggy text
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:43 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> will also be interesting to see if trb can sit down on trinque's libressl thing, instead of the frozen ancient openssl it currently goes with << I run a bitcoind linked against libressl 2.5.5 and so far it hasn't forked
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah. though in fairness, those corner cases rarely in the ffa or ffa-lite deployed.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:04 phf: asciilifeform: presumably entire portage tree pulls from
https:// unless trinque also hosting a mirror of everything (i haven't looked yet)
mircea_popescu: i imagine that'll be spyked's next thing, bot-driven vtrees mirror service.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 19:05 mircea_popescu: when he had some action lol. was he doing anything ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 19:05 davout: still working on my take on cutting the wallet out of TRB
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 21:57 davout: started training for my airline transport pilot license in december, and i'm stuck in ground school phase until may~june, until then i barely even make time to go take a shit
mircea_popescu: well, he was tech for the ~only exchange worth two shits, back in the early days. then that thing got subverted into aml crap, he bounced around a while, "transition phase" or w/e you'd call it, then he did the bitbet receivership and that was ~last anyone heard.
mircea_popescu: whatever, there's lots of these "could've, but didn't".
mircea_popescu: im so fed up with the whole attention whore tech industry...
mircea_popescu: "rabbit births" only became a thing with diderot's idiocy.
mircea_popescu: femtards, they got time and, sadly, a smattering of resources these days.
mircea_popescu: oh this is precious. "If it were just a one-off I wouldn't mention it... but if I do notice it happening again it would be good to know what process I should follow."
mircea_popescu: femtards can code would like to know "what process to follow" when her windows laptop dun work.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i suppose, by the above logic, 400 years ago she'd have asked the lord of the mannor, parish priest, and passing royal messenger "plox help, my cows udders seem to be growing, wut do, wut do". helluva milk maid.
mircea_popescu: you know what nicole's moronic age peers do for "schooling to better themselves in marketplace" ?
mircea_popescu: as fucking if there's room for another adwords consultant in this world. someone's gonna pay for thius ?
mircea_popescu: at least in clinton's day they made supernumerary lawyers, not supernumerary nothings.
mircea_popescu: i don't want that moron touching my food. restaurant is for subbie sluts anyway, who the fuck needs this item.
mircea_popescu: "Hoang also emailed associate ops director Darren James to say her personal phone "may potentially have some kind of breach as it has been acting peculiarly," telling the tribunal under cross-examination that "it was intuition" which led her to believe this."
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : your company owns whatever information is left after any employee discloses whatever ~that employee~, in ~his own judgement~ deems ~might~ ber interesting to mother inca.
mircea_popescu: "A disclosure of information in respect of which a claim to legal professional privilege (or, in Scotland, to confidentiality as between client and professional legal adviser) could be maintained in legal proceedings is not a qualifying disclosure if it is made by a person to whom the information had been disclosed in the course of obtaining legal advice." << ie, your lawyer's receptionist dun count.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-03 16:03 asciilifeform: in other lulz, intel ceo sells 100% of the stock his contract permitted him to sell ( and even filed the mandatory usg report to hitler, hence how it came out )
mircea_popescu: "It must by now be the experience of most people that computers develop hardware faults, and also that there are often software issues causing unexpected things to happen." << legal precedent in pantsuit lands nao :D
deedbot: diginet voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 07:17 mircea_popescu: it's not the sort of question that you can answer for yourself in a minute.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, it's back up now, but my recipe doesn't work anymore.
danielpbarron: re that ^, it didn't get pushed by deedbot. has my site been removed from the rsstron?
deedbot: grubles voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: grubles: Name looks familiar. Life story in 20 words or less. You have 28 minutes.
grubles: hey what was the other channel you guys used to hang out in?
a111: Logged on 2015-05-25 23:50 assbot: You rated user grubles on 23-Dec-2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: Disingenuous at best. One of the large group of everyday nitwits that wandered into Bitcoin early on enough so as to end up with a much larger momentary fortune than their limited brainpower could support. After squandering it through the usual means, they prefer to pretend their funciar stupidity is someone else's fault..
☟︎ deedbot: L1: 0, L2: -1 by 1 connections.
grubles: i asked a question. did you not see it above?
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall, rando hanger-on from the -otc days.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 12:54 asciilifeform: ' Hasimir and the "corrupt keys" FUD raised semi-regularly by certain people in another bitcoin channel is just that; ill-informed FUD'
mircea_popescu: there's two dead sites and a bitly link. why the fuck would you "bit.ly". unless, of course, you're nanotube, and your brain long ago ceased to work.
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☟︎ mircea_popescu: could these muppets be any more ridiculous through liberal application of deliberate effort ?
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated nanotube -1 at 2018/01/24 19:57:26 << took the blue pill at some point prior to the republic, chasing the tenure dream somewhere lost in the imperial wastes.
mircea_popescu: a ok then. whatever, the raccons not worth the buckshot at this point.
deedbot: asciilifeform has not rated hasimir.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:34 mircea_popescu: (other than in a discussion with the sort of imbecile typified today by hasimir, i dunno either of us gives half a shit.)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 12:54 asciilifeform: ' Hasimir and the "corrupt keys" FUD raised semi-regularly by certain people in another bitcoin channel is just that; ill-informed FUD'
a111: Logged on 2017-12-20 19:53 mircea_popescu: though ALL SORTS of rank imbeciles, such as that "pirate party" fucktard, had complaints of the proofy proof flavour.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 02:28 mircea_popescu vaguely recalls some "pirate party" associated dorks producing lame "oh, can't factor a key anyway" verbiage cca 2015
a111: Logged on 2015-05-21 22:13 Hasimir: oh, did I forget to mention, I'm the treasurer of pirate party australia
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:52 asciilifeform: because unlearns faster than learns.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like if cows were surgeons. before cow even started building operating room, the dung-carried bacteria'd be everywhere. because expensive for cow to be surgeon, and cheap for e coli to move along with flying dung.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 19:31 mircea_popescu: femtards can code would like to know "what process to follow" when her windows laptop dun work.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 22:27 mircea_popescu: they're always very "creative", with their nonsense, the monkeys, aren't they. little baskets to comemorate Goddess in basket form can always be found. they can't add, of course, and don't wash between the toes. creative math or creative hygiene, where they self-improve in actual fields where they're marginal, this NEVER happens
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 23:14 mircea_popescu: well, on top of a world ontologically constituted as "12 men on monkey island" attempting to construct alternate world hallucinatorily constituted as "men and money teams compete for island special olympics".
mircea_popescu: and in this like manner, that "pirate party" thing was even cool, for the negative time interval between when it was formed and when it was suborned.
mircea_popescu: gnu managed to drive directx into the ground, on the strength of naive if well meaning contributors, and then managed to give the advantage back to windows, and snatch defeat from the very jaws of victory, on the strength of imbecile management.
mircea_popescu: and i could keep on going in this manner, but the fact remains : the wooden sword cut no heads.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: whatever, ima go have profiterols and lol at teh issues.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 21:31 mircea_popescu: sort-of like if cows were surgeons. before cow even started building operating room, the dung-carried bacteria'd be everywhere. because expensive for cow to be surgeon, and cheap for e coli to move along with flying dung.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 21:38 mircea_popescu: and i could keep on going in this manner, but the fact remains : the wooden sword cut no heads.