mats: i don't know anybody else that regularly reads the atlantic
mats: ya, i like the print format
mats: generally frontloads with foreign policy, bidness, then some fluff, tech, and the cover story somewhere towards the end
deedbot: RodrigoBTCF voiced for 30 minutes.
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deedbot: mircea_popescu rated RodrigoBTCF 1 << trader
deedbot: Joshua-I voiced for 30 minutes.
Joshua-I: I'm believe gabe came by pitching masamune and you wanted to purchase?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 21:20 mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so how about you hop in a plane and bring me a coupla ? i'll buy you a steak even!
Joshua-I: Since the product has been validated I'll be working on making operations smoother
Joshua-I: mircea_popescu I work with gabe running the business side of things
Joshua-I: Seems my lone rating has disappeared
mircea_popescu: so you work with a guy that hasn't rated you doing things. mkay ?
Joshua-I: He has some issue or another using his key
Joshua-I: I think it's scattered across 7 planets or something
Joshua-I: So you need an income of ratings, ok
mircea_popescu: well anyone can come in here and say he's working with anyone on anything. what's in a saying.
Joshua-I: Well my visit doesn't have to be a complete waste, since I was just going to ask you what your preferred payment is
Joshua-I: Input appreciated from anyone here really
Joshua-I: Thanks for taking the time to give me your input. Have a good night
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deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of RodrigoBTCF from 1 to 1 << trader
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
trinque: the !!ratings one is a bit unclear as to which direction
trinque: phf: could I get a URL endpoint on btcbase.org/log which redirects to the first line spoken by a nick?
trinque: not urgent; I recall you're sick.
mircea_popescu: and in random fuck this shit : if you're downloading a bunch of fonts and end up with a humongo pile of spurious folders because hey, people are special, the pill is find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I file mv --backup=numbered file . (followed, probably, by for file in *; do mv "$file" `echo $file | tr ' ' '_'` ; done because special people are THAT FUCKING SPECIAL)
mircea_popescu: my question at this point would be, PPL! Y SO SPECIAL!
shinohai: Signed, "A special deceitful shitbag"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o look at that, i even ended up with a "RunMe.exe"
mircea_popescu: anyway, given the mechanics of the retarded user and of viral infection, i would suspect 100% of these download-things websites selectively scam their users.
mircea_popescu: the economics are simply unavoidable, 1% is "undetectable" and also utterly sufficient.
mircea_popescu: so no, that slashdot, or softpedia, or whoever else was caught doing it is not some sort of exception.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd suspect this is actually the main entry intake for botnet chumpatron.
mircea_popescu: "i use x thing because it worked fine before" is exactly how animals get infected after all. biologically i mean.
mircea_popescu: well, some uppity av may warn about that, so best keep it in the past few years
mircea_popescu: so you know ... not piece of shit at all. fine piece of virusatronic engineering.
Framedragger:
http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/5MB.jpg << avian transportation of 5 megabyte disk (~1965) (probably IBM 2311?) - i just like to imagine myself that the javascript "libraries" of a simplistic "modern" "website" alone often weigh more than that. ties into the whole website obesity crisis thread.
trinque: this weird preoccupation with "say the words" seems like it came directly from protestant christianity.
trinque: that being - as far as I can tell - the only belief of that sect.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 13:53 mircea_popescu: "gotta have taint! its how the world works!"
mircea_popescu: protestant fundamentalist conservatives masquerading as liberal progressives.
deedbot: nosuchlabswww voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in actual lulz : trump (bannon) is actually making an alt-right party.
mircea_popescu: hey, he;s not sworn in yet. if he is or if he isn't gonna jail the shrew, he'd still say he isn't.
☟︎ shinohai: Did RodrigoBTC spend all his coin on vuvuzela and has none left for bouncer?
mircea_popescu: "Wenn der Sturmsoldat ins Feuer geht, ei, dann hat er frohen Mut, / und wenn’s Judenblut vom Messer spritzt, dann gehts nochmal so gut" etc ?
mircea_popescu: Eine antisemitische Variante, die sich später über ganz Deutschland verbreiten sollte, kam vermutlich im März 1921 bei Freikorps auf, die beim Aufstand in Oberschlesien kämpften und bei denen ein besonders roher Pogrom-Antisemitismus herrschte. In den späteren Jahren der Weimarer Republik ist als Refrain diese antijüdische Version mit Textteilen des bekannten „Sturmsoldaten“-Liedes, einer zeitgenössischen Soldatenl
mircea_popescu: ied-Umdichtung rechtsradikaler Verbände („Wenn der Sturmsoldat ins Feuer geht, ei, dann hat er frohen Mut, / und wenn’s Judenblut vom Messer spritzt, dann gehts nochmal so gut“), gesungen worden – so auch von der SA zur Feier des 30. Januar 1933. Mit der Entmachtung der SA und den geänderten innenpolitischen Interessen der NS-Führung dürfte auch das Absingen der antisemitischen Heckerlied-Variante seltener geworde
mircea_popescu: people do rewrite their own songs, like i do all the time on trilema etc.
mircea_popescu: there's tons of them, the commies had one too, something with guillotine.
mircea_popescu: ah there, Schmier die Guillotine, schmier die Guillotine, schmier die Guillotine Mit Tyrannenfett.
mircea_popescu is half-considering actually paying someone who isn't fucking christoph holzhofer to sing this thing. with a manly voice and proper arrangement not whatever the fuck that beseeching woody allen-wannabe voice + pothead "feminist" guitar drang.
mircea_popescu: prolly best internet brownie points if sung in a very idish-y german, come to think of it.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i know a girl who could do it in a pretty lone voice. s/trash metal/some metal and lots of punk/, smoking included, good german, can sing. unless you insist on male voice..
Framedragger: i'm certain she's recorded herself (not a professional singer, mind), i'll ask.
Framedragger: (may take a while for her to get back to me, so don't have super high hopes - will let you know either way tho!)
mircea_popescu: hey, this entire thing is constructed on "try but don't depend"
hanbot: asciilifeform> write to 'funker vogt' then... << why not wumpscut too lol
mircea_popescu: o wow check it out, i actually got an email for funkervogt!
mircea_popescu: the sheer antitextuality of somebody playing kampchen's stuff STRAIGHT is worth it just for itself.
mircea_popescu: uh never heard of this guy, what "carefully crafted face of the so-called alt-right" ?
mircea_popescu: dun tell me, let me guess, the jews are going to tell everyone what's what as part of everyone's effort to get rid of them ?
trinque: if that's not the connection, I'm out of ideas
mircea_popescu: somebody with a lot more time than sense should probably make a libertardwiki, explaining all the things that ARE TRUE!!! such as you know, the nazis were this historical group of white men who didn't believe global warming is caused by internet trolls.
mircea_popescu: holy shit, wikis rot the brain. check out this doozy from nethackwiki.com : "If attempting to gain experience levels, blessing potions of gain level before drinking them makes more sense earlier in the game than later, because at high levels the number of experience points needed to level up through normal adventuring is so high that it's rarely done. At higher experience levels, the number of XP between levels is so huge tha
mircea_popescu: t there is little point in blessing a potion before quaffing, because it's likely the only way you will level up is via potions and wraith corpses. For example, a 5th level character who drinks an uncursed potion would be set to 6th level at 320 XP, versus 480 with a blessed potion. The difference to reach 7th level is 320 (if uncursed was drunk) vs 160 (if blessed was drunk) which is an attainable goal. On the other hand, ab
mircea_popescu: ove the teens the character is often looking at the difference between 500,000 and 1,000,000 XP, neither of which are likely to be realized through normal adventuring, so blessing the potion makes little difference."
mircea_popescu: how the everloving fuck can someone write THAT rather than "DO NOT quaff level pots at low level" ? it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: "oh but we are dedicated to not telling people what to do" "and your mother's a whore."
diana_coman: that sounds to me like the perfect expression of monkey-brain: no instantly visible result means not worth doing
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the problem is that if indeed the later level half-sh reward is not worth getting, THEN therefore the early level full level reward is also not worth getting.
trinque: wouldn't be pomo enough otherwise
mircea_popescu: i think it must be blindness throuhg immersion (and a healthy dose of phonetics innocence, obv.)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to anyone who's not-them the whole thing is intrinsically self-critting
diana_coman: monkey-brain -> NOTHING beyond "instantly visible"
trinque: maybe someday the right zika gets rid of them.
trinque: meant the neurons; seems to me the right virus would yes, make the perfect creatures of idiocracy
trinque: .... so that's "covertress" ?
shinohai: covertress died cryptographic death, no longer has original keyz
shinohai: I'm not entirely unsure this won't be the case in future, since last time I checked she had started using keybase.io
shinohai: "Your privkey is totally safe with us!"
Framedragger: (i don't think keybase gets to see your privkey tho.)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: what do you mean, "slightly different js"? is there any point in time where you need to entrust your privkey to local js? i thought it was just a matter of giving it pubkeys and sigs?
trinque: she was clearly part of some inclusive ft meade hiring program
Framedragger: i've stayed away from keybase as it had that creepy (and useless) hipsta vibe, but if true, then it's actively malicious.
trinque: go infiltrate teh hax0rs with your middle aged woman charms
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i'm not disagreeing, and of course that's true. but it's still one thing to trust js which, say, generates privkey for you and then promises not to send it the server, "pinky promise" like, and another whereby you paste signatures from external program
Framedragger: but if it has a "luzer friendly mode" where "you don't need to external app yo", then that's bad by itself. :/
trinque: machine is labeled "dick blender" whether you fuck it or not
Framedragger: it says "add or create a PGP key" when registered. heh.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: well, you can link your social accounts, and stuff. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT STUPID, but there's additional value
trinque: Framedragger: what the fuck does that do
Framedragger: also, something about a virtual folder for sharing data with friends whose pgp keys you have? you just do echo "attack at dawn" > /something/friendname/secret.txt
Framedragger: anyway. i'm not using keybase. i'm just sayin'.
trinque: you're saying what, exactly?
Framedragger: trinque: well, you then submit "proofs" (say tweets) which you can open to actually confirm a pgp signed message saying that "@isuckballs is my (gpg id: ...) twitter account."
Framedragger: trinque: that you can use it without having to trust js not to upload your privkey.
trinque: look, that something "does something" and that being useful to the person doing are distinct
trinque: I roger verified my twitter and now twitter can't tweet as me?
Framedragger: look, obviously there are people for whom sociul media accountz are really important. some of them want to pretend they can use crypto, so they use keybase to help them "link" their accounts. while this is inane, this does not, in itself, pose a security risk, if done properly (with external program which handles your privkey.)
trinque: or did I just rub the pgp sauce on my twitter because it evokes a special feeling in my empty loins
trinque: the point is cozying people up to the idea of 3rd party facilitated crypto over time
trinque: and if they don't get your privkey today, they get it tomorrow
Framedragger: trinque: well, there's that. not gonna argue with that. i suppose you're right.
Framedragger: i just don't like characterizations. (inb4 "but you don't defend when tmsr is characterised!1" << well, haven't seen much of the latter so far.)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: girl came back to me saying she doesn't want to do it, doesn't feel confident enough. "maybe later". owell.
Framedragger: she said she tried recording herself sing schubert and it sounded horrible for her. :(
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, there aren't people to whom their social media accounts are really important, because there aren't people so that the "their" attribute may be applied to twitter's page.
mircea_popescu: you understand how logic works, yes, once you have a true->false in the chain you can obtain any results.
mircea_popescu: you might as well say "there are squares whose radii are larger than five". while arbitrary sized squares may in fact be constructed, squares still don't have radii and so you're still not saying something.
mircea_popescu: and yes i'm aware that there exist geometric figures which do have radii. this isn't germane.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure, logical explosion, though yeah that usually requires both attribute-holders to exist, if you're claiming one of them doesn't, then it's just a nonsensical statement. which i guess is your point... i suppose so.
mircea_popescu: so yes, for the people to whom "their" twitter's page is important, then "their" keybase key makes sense. and for the same money, for the people who breathe underwater, land respiratorial equipment is a must get. and for the people who are healed by collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc, collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc are useful.
trinque:
http://archive.is/xSf35 << Pressed on whether he had definitively ruled out a prosecution of Mrs. Clinton, he said, “It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.”
trinque can hear Alex Jones screaming from here
trinque: that's it, 2016 tied up with a bow, nice and clean.
trinque: I guess the gay nazis will have plenty of conference fodder
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and like the rest of their measures to date, this latest attempt to lift the rock with the rotten reed will result in more damage to the rotten reed.
mircea_popescu: "this news site may be faek" hurts google a lot more than it hurts qntra.
mircea_popescu: anyway, seeing how nowadays wikipedia refuses to serve over
http (for no fucking reason whatsoever, who the shit cares already!), an entreprising fellow may simply bridge their content over to
http mircea_popescu: they'd of course discover nobody cares about wikipedia, but still - who thinks otherwise, there's your angle.