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mats: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/20/turkey-advances-on-isis-capital-of-raqqa-as-us-bac
mircea_popescu: loller
mats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk lol so good
mats: white people...
mircea_popescu: the atlantic can't break 10k views anymore ?
mats: i don't know anybody else that regularly reads the atlantic
mircea_popescu: o, you do ?
mats: ya, i like the print format
mats: generally frontloads with foreign policy, bidness, then some fluff, tech, and the cover story somewhere towards the end
mircea_popescu: i c
mircea_popescu: Framedragger #nethack has like 300 btw.
mats: https://www.rentec.com << heh, the spartan homepage reminds me of mpex
mircea_popescu: !!up RodrigoBTCF
deedbot: RodrigoBTCF voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!key RodrigoBTCF
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/mwegw/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: !!rate RodrigoBTCF 1 trader
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/j0z2k/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: !!v B534FE5C25B42DAE4DCFE536C7E60E13EA4D089DEE30A6409645885F0C6F866
mircea_popescu: !!v B534FE5C25B42DAE4DCFE536C7E60E13EA4D089DEE30A6409645885F0C6F866C
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated RodrigoBTCF 1 << trader
mircea_popescu: !!up Joshua-I
deedbot: Joshua-I voiced for 30 minutes.
Joshua-I: Thank you
mircea_popescu: sure.
Joshua-I: I'm believe gabe came by pitching masamune and you wanted to purchase?
Joshua-I: I*
mircea_popescu: you mean http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1570002 ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 21:20 mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so how about you hop in a plane and bring me a coupla ? i'll buy you a steak even!
Joshua-I: Since the product has been validated I'll be working on making operations smoother
RodrigoBTCF: It seems I can talk now :)
mircea_popescu: Joshua-I it's utterly unclear who you are, again ?
mircea_popescu: RodrigoBTCF cheers.
RodrigoBTCF: Thanks.
Joshua-I: mircea_popescu I work with gabe running the business side of things
mircea_popescu: !!ratings Joshua-I
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/b187p/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: it'd seem not
Joshua-I: Seems my lone rating has disappeared
mircea_popescu: so you work with a guy that hasn't rated you doing things. mkay ?
Joshua-I: He has some issue or another using his key
Joshua-I: I think it's scattered across 7 planets or something
mircea_popescu: ok, but this dun help you any.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22rate%22+joshua-i << apparently you had a courtesy rating from asciilifeform back in the summer ; which he took off recently (iirc he did some cleaning out of stale ratings).
Joshua-I: So you need an income of ratings, ok
asciilifeform: aha. and in light of the 'coarse error of pilotage' seen here, i am not inclined to reinstate it
mircea_popescu: well anyone can come in here and say he's working with anyone on anything. what's in a saying.
Joshua-I: Hm ok
Joshua-I: Well my visit doesn't have to be a complete waste, since I was just going to ask you what your preferred payment is
Joshua-I: Input appreciated from anyone here really
mircea_popescu: i'll take bitcoin. what am i getting paid for ?
Joshua-I: Hm ok
Joshua-I: Thanks for taking the time to give me your input. Have a good night
RodrigoBTCF: Hi, Marcelo.
RodrigoBTCF: !!ratings RodrigoBTCF
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/rhbk9/?raw=true
RodrigoBTCF: Have a good night. Bye.
asciilifeform: https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/sipb/project/eichin/common/perl/pkey << in other very very vintage lulz.
mircea_popescu: ugh
mircea_popescu: !!rate RodrigoBTCF 1 trader
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/c06zc/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: !!v 398B7E6FA2DCD3005CA5FBA10D23266444DD6918E7CA4FD121B379E35691387C
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of RodrigoBTCF from 1 to 1 << trader
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust RodrigoBTCF
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
mircea_popescu: trinque it has some delay or wut ?
mircea_popescu: oh oh l1 ; nm me.
mircea_popescu: !!ratings RodrigoBTCF
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/6epkr/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: ^ that coming out nil threw me.
trinque: !!reputation RodrigoBTCF
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/mw83l/?raw=true
trinque: the !!ratings one is a bit unclear as to which direction
trinque: short vs precise
mircea_popescu: oh.
mircea_popescu: gimme time, i'll learn this
mats: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sbhagava/papers/face-rec-ccs16.pdf
trinque: phf: could I get a URL endpoint on btcbase.org/log which redirects to the first line spoken by a nick?
trinque: not urgent; I recall you're sick.
thestringpuller: mpex proxies rotating? >> http://archive.is/HYDXX << via link from qntra.net
shinohai: 'tis in the logs
thestringpuller: thx
mircea_popescu: and in random fuck this shit : if you're downloading a bunch of fonts and end up with a humongo pile of spurious folders because hey, people are special, the pill is find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I file mv --backup=numbered file . (followed, probably, by for file in *; do mv "$file" `echo $file | tr ' ' '_'` ; done because special people are THAT FUCKING SPECIAL)
mircea_popescu: my question at this point would be, PPL! Y SO SPECIAL!
asciilifeform: speaking of the Profoundly Speshul: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q4/490 ☟︎
shinohai: Signed, "A special deceitful shitbag"
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o look at that, i even ended up with a "RunMe.exe"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform want it ?
asciilifeform: ended up from where
asciilifeform: and yes
mircea_popescu: " if you're downloading a bunch of fonts and"
mod6: mornin'
shinohai: o/ mod6
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4khqt/?raw=true served by http://all-free-download.com/font/download/level_fourteen_druid_font_5888_download.html
asciilifeform: lol massive piece of shit, includes 'flash player'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-22#1572163 << i'm very much unsurprised. because http://trilema.com/2015/mika-epstein-aka-ipstenu-is-a-thoroughly-clueless-poser/ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-22 14:46 asciilifeform: speaking of the Profoundly Speshul: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q4/490
mircea_popescu: they STILL haven't fixed the fucking hole.
asciilifeform: 'not bug, feature'
mircea_popescu: the retarded boys and girls club.
mircea_popescu: anyway, given the mechanics of the retarded user and of viral infection, i would suspect 100% of these download-things websites selectively scam their users.
mircea_popescu: the economics are simply unavoidable, 1% is "undetectable" and also utterly sufficient.
asciilifeform: incl. 'mainstreams', e.g., 'vlc player'
mircea_popescu: so no, that slashdot, or softpedia, or whoever else was caught doing it is not some sort of exception.
asciilifeform: (installs adware on crapple/winblows)
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd suspect this is actually the main entry intake for botnet chumpatron.
asciilifeform: tor exits patching all exes coming through may be close 2nd place medalist
asciilifeform: 'drive-by' -- 3rd, bronze.
mircea_popescu: "i use x thing because it worked fine before" is exactly how animals get infected after all. biologically i mean.
asciilifeform: btw tactic of 'bundle stock flash player + dancing-lolcat-cum-exploit-for-same' is clever in the sense of avoiding whatever av
mircea_popescu: it's even cleverer in how cheap it is.
asciilifeform: matches 0 'driveby' heuristics because it is an exe;
asciilifeform: matches 0 exe heuristics because it is stock 'flashplayer'.
mircea_popescu: aha. and takes ~0 effort to put together.
asciilifeform: very much. considering that there is no need at all to find fresh 0day, you can ship any flashplayer exe you like
asciilifeform: can use decade-old, if you want.
mircea_popescu: yup.
mircea_popescu: well, some uppity av may warn about that, so best keep it in the past few years
asciilifeform: few years, few months, same thing.
mircea_popescu: so you know ... not piece of shit at all. fine piece of virusatronic engineering.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in the circus, https://archive.is/vcQlA >> 'While President-elect Donald Trump has yet to denounce the alt-right by name, CNN's Chris Cuomo says he should. "It's about being a leader," Cuomo said on "New Day" Tuesday. "You denounce things that are wrong. That's what leaders do."'
Framedragger: http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/5MB.jpg << avian transportation of 5 megabyte disk (~1965) (probably IBM 2311?) - i just like to imagine myself that the javascript "libraries" of a simplistic "modern" "website" alone often weigh more than that. ties into the whole website obesity crisis thread.
Framedragger: just a nice reminder.
asciilifeform: didjaknow, getting down on yer knees, ready to please, is 'what leaders do' aha
Framedragger: s/imagine/remind/
asciilifeform: '"These people aren't kooks. They're a dangerous, racist, anti-Semitic group of people who are attacking the core values of America... [Trump] has an obligation to all Americans to stand up and denounce this group."'
asciilifeform: Framedragger: when i read 'avian transportaion' i expected a pigeon
asciilifeform: not 747.
Framedragger: i thought about that rfc, too. mah english.
trinque: this weird preoccupation with "say the words" seems like it came directly from protestant christianity.
trinque: that being - as far as I can tell - the only belief of that sect.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1561913 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 13:53 mircea_popescu: "gotta have taint! its how the world works!"
asciilifeform: see also : https://archive.is/gp9At >> 'The event was held at the Northwest Washington restaurant Maggiano's which issued an apology Monday and told the Washington Post that it would donate $10,000 to the D.C. office of the Anti-Defamation League.'
mircea_popescu: trinque aha.
mircea_popescu: protestant fundamentalist conservatives masquerading as liberal progressives.
mircea_popescu: !!up nosuchlabswww
deedbot: nosuchlabswww voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in actual lulz : trump (bannon) is actually making an alt-right party.
asciilifeform: alt-alt
asciilifeform: so alt that it, e.g., pardons clitler, supports keeping 'good' mexicans, etc.
mircea_popescu: hey, he;s not sworn in yet. if he is or if he isn't gonna jail the shrew, he'd still say he isn't. ☟︎
asciilifeform: why'd that be ?
asciilifeform: ( quasi-related historical q for cultured folk: do the lyrics to mega-teutonic-marvel 'Wenn das Judenblut vom Messer spritzt' actually exist on the net? or is whole item a fabrication..? )
shinohai: Did RodrigoBTC spend all his coin on vuvuzela and has none left for bouncer?
Framedragger: !#s tmsr bouncer
a111: 0 results for "tmsr bouncer", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tmsr%20bouncer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean heckerlied ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: standard heckerlied does not appear to contain the magic phrase.
mircea_popescu: "Wenn der Sturmsoldat ins Feuer geht, ei, dann hat er frohen Mut, / und wenn’s Judenblut vom Messer spritzt, dann gehts nochmal so gut" etc ?
asciilifeform: aha, it is refrain
asciilifeform: but from where.
mircea_popescu: heckerlied!
asciilifeform: link?
mircea_popescu: Eine antisemitische Variante, die sich später über ganz Deutschland verbreiten sollte, kam vermutlich im März 1921 bei Freikorps auf, die beim Aufstand in Oberschlesien kämpften und bei denen ein besonders roher Pogrom-Antisemitismus herrschte. In den späteren Jahren der Weimarer Republik ist als Refrain diese antijüdische Version mit Textteilen des bekannten „Sturmsoldaten“-Liedes, einer zeitgenössischen Soldatenl
mircea_popescu: ied-Umdichtung rechtsradikaler Verbände („Wenn der Sturmsoldat ins Feuer geht, ei, dann hat er frohen Mut, / und wenn’s Judenblut vom Messer spritzt, dann gehts nochmal so gut“), gesungen worden – so auch von der SA zur Feier des 30. Januar 1933. Mit der Entmachtung der SA und den geänderten innenpolitischen Interessen der NS-Führung dürfte auch das Absingen der antisemitischen Heckerlied-Variante seltener geworde
mircea_popescu: n sein.
mircea_popescu: there.
asciilifeform: classic heckerlied is from 1848 events neh?
mircea_popescu: (de.wiki)
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: people do rewrite their own songs, like i do all the time on trilema etc.
asciilifeform: well yes. was hoping to find whole picture of the variant.
mircea_popescu: there's tons of them, the commies had one too, something with guillotine.
asciilifeform: that one i recall.
mircea_popescu: ah there, Schmier die Guillotine, schmier die Guillotine, schmier die Guillotine Mit Tyrannenfett.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ADewg << the guillotine variant, with translations
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at the ranch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3mUWKCjFE
asciilifeform: l0l!! they had mircea_popescus in de
mircea_popescu: also 1850s
mircea_popescu is half-considering actually paying someone who isn't fucking christoph holzhofer to sing this thing. with a manly voice and proper arrangement not whatever the fuck that beseeching woody allen-wannabe voice + pothead "feminist" guitar drang.
mircea_popescu: do we know anyone with a voice AND his balls ?
asciilifeform: possibly BingoBoingo ?
mircea_popescu: he can sing ?
asciilifeform: probably
mircea_popescu: in german ?!
asciilifeform: 'can you play this stradivari?' 'dunno, never tried yet'
mircea_popescu: prolly best internet brownie points if sung in a very idish-y german, come to think of it.
asciilifeform: maybe pete_dushenski then
mircea_popescu: ideally someone who did trash metal for a decade.
mircea_popescu: while smoking.
asciilifeform: write to 'funker vogt' then...
asciilifeform: i cannot picture this piece in anything but their lead's voice, must confess
mircea_popescu: see http://funker-vogt.com
mircea_popescu: and their german site redirects to facebook
mircea_popescu: lord have mercy...
asciilifeform: i had nfi they even had this
asciilifeform: http://www.funkervogt.com << seems to work
mircea_popescu puts an intel ticket in but has little hope.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i know a girl who could do it in a pretty lone voice. s/trash metal/some metal and lots of punk/, smoking included, good german, can sing. unless you insist on male voice..
Framedragger: dunno why i said 'lone'. 'nice'.
mircea_popescu: i don't insist. can i hear her ?
Framedragger: i'm certain she's recorded herself (not a professional singer, mind), i'll ask.
mircea_popescu: works.
Framedragger: (may take a while for her to get back to me, so don't have super high hopes - will let you know either way tho!)
mircea_popescu: hey, this entire thing is constructed on "try but don't depend"
hanbot: asciilifeform> write to 'funker vogt' then... << why not wumpscut too lol
asciilifeform: hanbot: & ramstein !
mircea_popescu: anyway if this works eulora will have a sound.
Framedragger: haha, cool!
Framedragger sent query
mircea_popescu: o wow check it out, i actually got an email for funkervogt!
mircea_popescu will send a bunch of commission requests in a bit.
mircea_popescu: the sheer antitextuality of somebody playing kampchen's stuff STRAIGHT is worth it just for itself.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/VJjkr << re earlier thread.
mircea_popescu: uh never heard of this guy, what "carefully crafted face of the so-called alt-right" ?
asciilifeform: me neither.
mircea_popescu: dun tell me, let me guess, the jews are going to tell everyone what's what as part of everyone's effort to get rid of them ?
asciilifeform: papier-mache hitler.
mircea_popescu: "more than 30 protesters" dude what ?!
trinque: http://www.dvdizzy.com/images/p/theproducers-03.jpg << nazi standard issue chin. it checks out.
mircea_popescu: which one ?
trinque: dead center
mircea_popescu: a
trinque: if that's not the connection, I'm out of ideas
mircea_popescu: somebody with a lot more time than sense should probably make a libertardwiki, explaining all the things that ARE TRUE!!! such as you know, the nazis were this historical group of white men who didn't believe global warming is caused by internet trolls.
mircea_popescu: and violated safe spaces.
mircea_popescu: holy shit, wikis rot the brain. check out this doozy from nethackwiki.com : "If attempting to gain experience levels, blessing potions of gain level before drinking them makes more sense earlier in the game than later, because at high levels the number of experience points needed to level up through normal adventuring is so high that it's rarely done. At higher experience levels, the number of XP between levels is so huge tha
mircea_popescu: t there is little point in blessing a potion before quaffing, because it's likely the only way you will level up is via potions and wraith corpses. For example, a 5th level character who drinks an uncursed potion would be set to 6th level at 320 XP, versus 480 with a blessed potion. The difference to reach 7th level is 320 (if uncursed was drunk) vs 160 (if blessed was drunk) which is an attainable goal. On the other hand, ab
mircea_popescu: ove the teens the character is often looking at the difference between 500,000 and 1,000,000 XP, neither of which are likely to be realized through normal adventuring, so blessing the potion makes little difference."
mircea_popescu: how the everloving fuck can someone write THAT rather than "DO NOT quaff level pots at low level" ? it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: "oh but we are dedicated to not telling people what to do" "and your mother's a whore."
diana_coman: that sounds to me like the perfect expression of monkey-brain: no instantly visible result means not worth doing
trinque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk << who could've predicted the flamboyant voice on this... heh, I dub them alt-boys.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the problem is that if indeed the later level half-sh reward is not worth getting, THEN therefore the early level full level reward is also not worth getting.
asciilifeform: monkey never read knuth, but runs 'greedy algorithm'
mircea_popescu: trinque maaan... that's pathetic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform EXACTLY!
mircea_popescu: fucking insult to culture.
trinque: but... mehhhhhm!
mircea_popescu: trinque he also sounds jewish.
trinque: wouldn't be pomo enough otherwise
asciilifeform: btw i once went to an 'alt-right' thing in dc. (with herr handle & co.!) -- and iirc literally everybody in the room was some form of j000
mircea_popescu: i think it must be blindness throuhg immersion (and a healthy dose of phonetics innocence, obv.)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to anyone who's not-them the whole thing is intrinsically self-critting
diana_coman: monkey-brain -> NOTHING beyond "instantly visible"
asciilifeform: greedy algo ~worx~. but it leads to the question of what the 'thinker' needs all of those extra neurons for. a dozen would suffice.
trinque: maybe someday the right zika gets rid of them.
asciilifeform: trinque: afaik it ~produces~ them..
asciilifeform: the liberasts' wet dream.
trinque: meant the neurons; seems to me the right virus would yes, make the perfect creatures of idiocracy
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://evilzone.org/index.php?page=forum&sub=thread&thread=4089
asciilifeform: ( https://archive.is/5d0u2 )
shinohai: lol dat name
trinque: .... so that's "covertress" ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi, could be that both were named for same tv character or the like.
shinohai: covertress died cryptographic death, no longer has original keyz
asciilifeform: that's just cryptographic lost-at-sea
asciilifeform: (proper death is when privkey is blown publicly)
asciilifeform: not that the distinction is interesting in the given case.
shinohai: I'm not entirely unsure this won't be the case in future, since last time I checked she had started using keybase.io
shinohai: "Your privkey is totally safe with us!"
Framedragger: (i don't think keybase gets to see your privkey tho.)
asciilifeform: Framedragger: sure as hell it does
asciilifeform: (in one variant; always; in another - whenever they feel like serving up slightly different js to the chump)
Framedragger: hm.
Framedragger: if true, wow
Framedragger: asciilifeform: what do you mean, "slightly different js"? is there any point in time where you need to entrust your privkey to local js? i thought it was just a matter of giving it pubkeys and sigs?
trinque: she was clearly part of some inclusive ft meade hiring program
Framedragger: i've stayed away from keybase as it had that creepy (and useless) hipsta vibe, but if true, then it's actively malicious.
Framedragger: just curious.
trinque: go infiltrate teh hax0rs with your middle aged woman charms
asciilifeform: Framedragger: point is that wwwtronic crapolade can introduce arbitrary disjunction between what luser is doing and what he thinks he is doing.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i'm not disagreeing, and of course that's true. but it's still one thing to trust js which, say, generates privkey for you and then promises not to send it the server, "pinky promise" like, and another whereby you paste signatures from external program
Framedragger: but if it has a "luzer friendly mode" where "you don't need to external app yo", then that's bad by itself. :/
asciilifeform: Framedragger: why would a user who is able to 'paste signatures from external program' need a thing like keybase ?
trinque: machine is labeled "dick blender" whether you fuck it or not
Framedragger: it says "add or create a PGP key" when registered. heh.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: well, you can link your social accounts, and stuff. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT STUPID, but there's additional value
asciilifeform: 'upload your privkey, or let us make a very very speshul one FOR YOU!'
trinque: Framedragger: what the fuck does that do
Framedragger: also, something about a virtual folder for sharing data with friends whose pgp keys you have? you just do echo "attack at dawn" > /something/friendname/secret.txt
Framedragger: not upload. jesus.
Framedragger: anyway. i'm not using keybase. i'm just sayin'.
trinque: you're saying what, exactly?
trinque: "but anyway?" ?
Framedragger: trinque: well, you then submit "proofs" (say tweets) which you can open to actually confirm a pgp signed message saying that "@isuckballs is my (gpg id: ...) twitter account."
Framedragger: trinque: that you can use it without having to trust js not to upload your privkey.
asciilifeform: pray tell, what does this 'prove' and to whom ?
trinque: use to what?!
Framedragger: ugh, no i need to be an advocate of keybase.
Framedragger: now*
trinque: look, that something "does something" and that being useful to the person doing are distinct
trinque: I roger verified my twitter and now twitter can't tweet as me?
Framedragger: look, obviously there are people for whom sociul media accountz are really important. some of them want to pretend they can use crypto, so they use keybase to help them "link" their accounts. while this is inane, this does not, in itself, pose a security risk, if done properly (with external program which handles your privkey.)
trinque: or did I just rub the pgp sauce on my twitter because it evokes a special feeling in my empty loins
trinque: the point is cozying people up to the idea of 3rd party facilitated crypto over time
trinque: and if they don't get your privkey today, they get it tomorrow
Framedragger: trinque: well, there's that. not gonna argue with that. i suppose you're right.
Framedragger: hmh.
Framedragger: okay, maybe.
Framedragger: i just don't like characterizations. (inb4 "but you don't defend when tmsr is characterised!1" << well, haven't seen much of the latter so far.)
Framedragger: *mischaracterizations.
Framedragger: *mischaracterized. sorry.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: girl came back to me saying she doesn't want to do it, doesn't feel confident enough. "maybe later". owell.
Framedragger: she said she tried recording herself sing schubert and it sounded horrible for her. :(
mircea_popescu: aha.
Framedragger: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4026664 << "Evilzone - Hacking and Security Network is creating security awareness". pay with paypal to support! gold
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it is also full of cribbed likbez material.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: what, evilzone? i see
asciilifeform: Framedragger: in as far as i can tell, it is a very ordinary trap for the wotless/unwary/eager young'uns, 'alt-right'-style.
Framedragger: interesting.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, there aren't people to whom their social media accounts are really important, because there aren't people so that the "their" attribute may be applied to twitter's page.
mircea_popescu: you understand how logic works, yes, once you have a true->false in the chain you can obtain any results.
mircea_popescu: you might as well say "there are squares whose radii are larger than five". while arbitrary sized squares may in fact be constructed, squares still don't have radii and so you're still not saying something.
mircea_popescu: and yes i'm aware that there exist geometric figures which do have radii. this isn't germane.
asciilifeform: http://downdetector.com/status/google << in other lulz, guess who has dns outage today
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure, logical explosion, though yeah that usually requires both attribute-holders to exist, if you're claiming one of them doesn't, then it's just a nonsensical statement. which i guess is your point... i suppose so.
mircea_popescu: it is my point.
mircea_popescu: so yes, for the people to whom "their" twitter's page is important, then "their" keybase key makes sense. and for the same money, for the people who breathe underwater, land respiratorial equipment is a must get. and for the people who are healed by collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc, collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc are useful.
trinque: http://archive.is/xSf35 << Pressed on whether he had definitively ruled out a prosecution of Mrs. Clinton, he said, “It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.”
trinque: ahaha
trinque can hear Alex Jones screaming from here
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: 'Mr. Trump denied that his campaign had energized the so-called alt-right movement, saying he disavowed it. “It’s not a group I want to energize,” he said. “And if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why.”'
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ( from trinque's link )
asciilifeform: 'When Mr. Trump was asked whether he condemned an alt-right conference over the weekend in Washington, where some attendees raised their arms in a Hitler-like salute, he said, “I disavow and condemn them.”'
asciilifeform: ''He did tell me what he thought were the biggest problems, in particular one problem," Trump says. Won't say what that was.' << mega-lul
trinque: http://archive.is/q6qkI << meanwhile pedo-pizza thing is being psyopped into a "fake news" meme
trinque: that's it, 2016 tied up with a bow, nice and clean.
trinque yawns
trinque: I guess the gay nazis will have plenty of conference fodder
asciilifeform: the photos of 'victim kidz' added to the mix is same gambit as when the 'martians did it' folx were turned loose upon '9/11 truth'.
asciilifeform: aka crankbait.
asciilifeform: or, if you like, discreditation-spray.
mircea_popescu: hey, the one thing fly empire doesn't lack is flies.
asciilifeform: !~later tell davout is your www down ? ☟︎
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: trinque: the 'fake newz' crapolade is being quite purposefully and deliberately drummed up, 'anything without the magic blue authenticity logo is FAEK' or the like.
asciilifeform: trinque: nyt et all are transitioning to a very explicit 'pravda' model.
asciilifeform: i will be surprised if before the end of '17 'google chrome' and similar do not yet warn 'THIS NEWS SITE MAY BE FAEK', sorta how it now is beginning to do for ssl abstainers
mircea_popescu: and like the rest of their measures to date, this latest attempt to lift the rock with the rotten reed will result in more damage to the rotten reed.
mircea_popescu: "this news site may be faek" hurts google a lot more than it hurts qntra.
mircea_popescu: anyway, seeing how nowadays wikipedia refuses to serve over http (for no fucking reason whatsoever, who the shit cares already!), an entreprising fellow may simply bridge their content over to http
mircea_popescu: they'd of course discover nobody cares about wikipedia, but still - who thinks otherwise, there's your angle.
asciilifeform: there is already a tall pile of otherwise unremarkable sites that won't display in latest Official version of any ssltronic browser on account of 'obsolete protocol' or wtf.
shinohai: progress.