ben_vulpes: certainly suspect in that nowhere does it mention the supreme import of writing code *to be read*
ben_vulpes: also the notion that technical issues aren't business issues simply points to the coolie-nature of the typical cpp slave likely to read such pap. certainly not the case where i'm concerned; the quality of code and systems delivered and maintained are of the *utmost* concern to the biz.
esthlos: I was wondering what happens if you replace "software development" with "physics", and see it that way.
esthlos: but could counter with: proper replacement is "engineering"
ben_vulpes: well if you ship machines with a screamingly loud resonance because you took the pressure-hood's line feed directly off the air bearings feed lines without damping reservoirs most likely your office will never be tasked with anything other than sustaining work ever again
ben_vulpes: which is the opposite of the cppmeatfield where a thing going over budget and timeline simply results in bigger budgets and longer timelines
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 18:32 Swant: Because from what some other users have told me it's for buying and selling porn...
ben_vulpes: 'it' btw useful pronoun for wot nonpeople
shinohai: Careful ben_vulpes, you might trigger it
phf: "lord vulpes, drunk with power, shooting the coolies from the back of his veranda" engraving, ca 2017
phf: the esteemed gentelman of the Inquisition is still with us, and, at present, is retired
shinohai: From today's trilema update "Bear in mind that it is deemed unethical within the Republic to write code if you haven't actually learned how to write it first, and that orcs' claims to have taught you something often turn out fraudulent upon examination."
ben_vulpes: phf: sadly all i have is a porch roof, bb gun, and alley full of squirrels and the occasional methwitch
phf: besides it's only legal to discharge arms within portland city limit if you're participating in some sort of non-marijuana drug related activity
ben_vulpes: brandishing deemed legitimate self-defense if you can unholster without falling over
phf: huh, the world is a large and complicated place
ben_vulpes: casual violence against sharing-economy cucks also encouraged
phf: right, anti-mule, pro-unicode
mircea_popescu: well, it's not clear to me his position was ever pro-unicode outside of a platonic object unicode was about as much as smgl was.
mircea_popescu: "computers should do things" "yaaay" "here's the things" "OMFGWTFBBQ"
mircea_popescu: anyway, jwz's own history, self-serving as it is, nevertheless seems accurate to me : mule is what was left once all the inept
mircea_popescu: nihongo they could figure out how to amputate was snipped.
phf: right, platonic unicode, i think it was more aligned even with common lisp's notion of character object or somesuch, than what the spec actually become. i think he might've ranted somewhere about ms fucking it up and such
mircea_popescu: right, basically his internal, sadly unvoiced position was "oh, unicode is what you kids wanna call native lisp character model ? mmkay, i r agree"
phf: hah, you know that might be the gift of his delusion
mircea_popescu: jesus that phrase came out hard to parse. let's parens : (well, (it's not clear to me ((his position) was ((ever pro-unicode) (outside of a (platonic object (unicode (was about as much (as smgl was)))))
mircea_popescu: phf which is the fucking problem with the sort of mind. by avoiding to correctly order output (ie, most significant byte first!!) and ESPECIALLY by failing to correctly filter output (least controversial part is filtered, least copacetic part is passed, NOT the other way around!!!) is what mires technical discussions altogether.
mircea_popescu: phf not you, but future me. i will be senile one day, in 2075, and i might need to read this.
phf: i think somehow lisp symbols tie into this, i'd call it sanskrit thinking, because you also see that a lot in sanskrit. let's attach as much meaning to this symbol as we possibly can, but when we speak the correct meaning will be communicated because the other person is also a vedic god
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, speaking of roman numeral systems, the dumbest thing about writing is that , doesn't come with a symmetric-comma.
mircea_popescu: phf in principle and up to a certain degree this can be pulled off. but the management of that degree tree is i'd say the principal job of cultural management. because holy shit the failure modes.
phf: so he might be saying ishvara, but the pleb is going to hear yahve. he should be expecting significant misunderstandings further down the communication
☟︎ mircea_popescu: have you noticed how chock full of this trilema is btw ?
mircea_popescu: if i say jew right now it's not even possible to figure out what i mean.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 21:11 asciilifeform: at the cost of a bit of log clutter, let's indulge asciilifeform's crackpottery, and lay out 妓 ( U+5993 : whore ) :
phf: Send Trump there with a one-way ticket?
phf: err, that was wrong paste buffer
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 01:13 phf: so he might be saying ishvara, but the pleb is going to hear yahve. he should be expecting significant misunderstandings further down the communication
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the doctrine that "alternative interpretations fall off as the tree is built" has two major weaknesses : a) you'd be surprised how often there's an unexpected fault in the dielectric and b) you'd be surprised how often people get caught in emo insanity.
mircea_popescu: suppose you have a set of symbols S1..Sn each with meanings Mij, i in n j in k. suppose you have a grammar G which has one function : if adding element Sx to a string made of q S, it permits you to discern which Sij are thereby invalidated.
mircea_popescu: the interpretative theory (T) states that for all possible strings there is at most one M per present S. those which have exactly 1 for all S are called well formed ; the rest malformed.
mircea_popescu: the PROBLEM with this constructive view of hermeneutics is that a) often G fails in its function and that b) just as often people fail to correctly apply it, impredictably and unreasonably.
mircea_popescu: "cultural management" discussed above is in this model the curation of permissible M overload on given Sn and the construction of G such that T is maintained.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> if mod6 came by all nonchalant like and was "hey, i shot a 350 lb shrimp today" what i;d expect the steak to taste like would be ~alligator. << yeah, probably would!
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6 would be proud of me, I managed a pair of quail the other weekend when it snowed. << niiiiice!
mircea_popescu: (in the story it's just used to characterize the male character as omnipotent ; but as literature is never divorced from ideology...)
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah i hope he lemon-buttered those with artichokes.
mod6: i went hunting on sunday and the dog flushed up what I thought was a hen. was a hawk, eating a hen!
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, yeah, that'd be great
mod6: na. i saw it get up, had it in my sight picture, could have pounded it. was only like 10 yds from me. but when i saw the tail feathers fan out, i let off.
mod6: can't shoot those here.
shinohai: I did lemon-butter them, asparagus, no artichokes :/
mod6: but yah, anyway, was pretty unreal. haha.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah, they were protected in old country most places also, it was the #1 trimmer of noob hunters. "don't wait to see what you're shooting, get a falcon, spend 2 weekls explaining self to forest guard"
mircea_popescu: well, the not retarded ones, anyway. the retarded ones'd just shoot their own dog or w/e.
mod6: mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu knew hunt dog grower who wouldn't even sell to noobs. "how am i supposed to get a dog ?" "first get some experience" "doing what" "hunting" "how am i going to do that without a dog ?"
mod6: yeah, no sense in letting a good dog go to waste
mircea_popescu: well, especially with small shot, it's a mess. just takes nine weeks to die or some unseemly shit like that.
mircea_popescu: admittedly back then veterinarian surgeons were a lot less common.
phf: now if only they applied same principles to dog sales as well
mod6: ugh, yeah. i'd just put it down/shoot it if it was suffering.
shinohai wonders what the oriental fascination with torching dogs alive is ....
phf: oh yeah india was pretty bad, there they don't have any use for dogs. though cats there fair even worse
phf: on the lulzy side i can't get over american thing of keeping dogs and picking up their shit. i spent new years in upper east side, and was sitting at a small cafe one morning, watching these posh old ladies in expensive furs one after another scooping up little turds after their tiny beasts
mircea_popescu: isn't that the weirdest shit ? good thing democracy gave 'em civil rights an' shit, i'd take scooping dogshit over subsistence hunting any day!!1
mircea_popescu: in other zekworld, anyone saw the incrrreedibly neet-stupid film i saw today ?
phf: this is the first time i actually got to witness the entirety of the ritual (accidentally the cafe was in front of patch of grass, and i guess it was sufficiently cold that old ladies didn't want to go all the way to the park)
mircea_popescu: taking bets / proposals / suggestions of wtf it is till i publish.
mircea_popescu: "Manipulations of public opinions are understandably also among the general activities of the surveillance agencies [9], which at least partly explains the wild and bizarre discussion styles sometimes seen in certain Usenet groups and Internet forums."
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone wanna do a steganobot ? here's the spec : upon receiving a link to a pastebin, the bot picks a random tumblr image, doctors it, and links it.
mircea_popescu: someone's gonna keep a list of all the tumblr images ?
a111: Logged on 2015-12-31 21:59 ascii_rear: problem with all stego is that it runs exactly counter to standardization
mircea_popescu: 1. i say !S
http://pastebin ; 2. bot searches for an image ; 3. bot embeds the pastebin in image ; 4. bot publishes the new image to its tumblr acct. ;5. bot links image here.
mircea_popescu: well, suppose there's a (pompously named) "adversary", which is to say some group of lamers with delusions of self-importance, like say the (pompously named) united states government.
mircea_popescu: confronted with this bot, said group of lamers has a choice : either ignore it, or else start going around with copies of my tumbler account.
mircea_popescu: mandatory tumbler following by nsa ? seems like a decent lulz.
mircea_popescu: let all porn i put in the chan be preserved forever as a matter of "national security" by all teh national-whatevers, why not.
shinohai: The filthier porn you put it in the better?
mircea_popescu: so what are they gonna do, store piles of usb sticks at all airports and compare everyone's laptops for evil mp porn ?
mircea_popescu: suppose "employee" wants to steal "secrets" from nsa hq. a) encrypt to rsa key ; b) put in tmsr tumblr bot ; c) carry vacation pics back and forth. problem ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, we will look for the strings". which fucking strings ?
mircea_popescu: "this picture contains sicritz in it" "does the lightbulb contain martian dataz also ?"
mircea_popescu: let it be obvious. the only thing it does is it makes it more demoralizing to the would-be eve.
mircea_popescu: human society ~exists since the dawn of time as "men finding text in images of women"
mod6: i like the bot idea
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 05:33 Birdman: !!pay lobbes 0.00224535
jhvh1: lobbes: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 05:34 danielpbarron: you gotta wait a sec lol
trinque: looks like he was too quick with the hot potato
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 01:11 phf: i think somehow lisp symbols tie into this, i'd call it sanskrit thinking, because you also see that a lot in sanskrit. let's attach as much meaning to this symbol as we possibly can, but when we speak the correct meaning will be communicated because the other person is also a vedic god
mircea_popescu: basically early google bubble "search", let's hack speech into a broken device that can only be used to communicate to those people we have nothing to say to.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (fwiw i always suspected that's the deep core of the pantsuit fascination with "eastern philosophy" : "o look, a cultural space fundamentally as self-alienated as we ourselves feel inside! THIS IS THE RIGHT BRAND OF EMO FOR MY NEEDS!".)
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14049.7, vol: 19139.52240169 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13896.0, vol: 52677.20701355 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14010.0, vol: 4120.37539151 | Volume-weighted last average: 13940.9249072
BingoBoingo: me voy a cita, hope to return with news and numbers
shinohai: Buenas dias BingoBoingo, suerte y nos veremos!
BingoBoingo: They gave me a lead on refurb equipment and should be emailing numbers my way for review
mircea_popescu wonders what "just a guy trynna make it in dis game" is gonna do.
shinohai: 1/10 would not follow her up the stairs.
mircea_popescu: do you understand she's the equivalent of a "very smart kid", ie, 1.5 or so standard deviations up from the average ?
shinohai: Some girls are smart enough not to advertise their trashiness with gaudy tattoos
mircea_popescu: (i imagine that's not what she tells herself it is, but look at that institutional shit. it'd better be.)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, leaving the talent aside, as who the fuck even cares, grass for the scythe : the ~entrepreneurial young & coming photographer~! which the fuck one of the numerous "mista photographies" expended the resources to produce this artefact.
mircea_popescu: there was a time (not so long ago!) when EVERY mark was known by ~everyone ; and not knowing one was perceived as a subjective lack not as an objective deffect ; and the whole shebang paid well. today i couldn't even order more of "his stuff" if i wanted to, putting in question the very possibility of "his" in "his stuff" and moreover the justification of labour or economic activity generally.
mircea_popescu: a string of five random letters provides him with DOZENS of collisions.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 27^5 = 14348907
BingoBoingo: Aha, the branding superiority saga repeats
mircea_popescu: "Yet SecureDrop would not currently exist without James, and he deserves all the commendation in the world for making it what it is today." << i'll need a primer on this, what "is it today" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 00:18 mircea_popescu: reality winner and her wannabe qntra friends constructed her own subhumanity.
mircea_popescu: "James’s encyclopedic knowledge of computer and network security was a key reason why newsrooms were comfortable adopting SecureDrop when it was still seen as something relatively new and unknown." what THE FUCK are we talking about, am i in some kind of reality distortion field ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this shit reads exactly like old soviet side jokes about the great production and utter penury.
BingoBoingo: As far as I can tell, SecureDrop was some sorta pantsuit thing Gawker and a couple other derpedias advertised accepting
mircea_popescu: but reality winner happened... afterwards ? iirc this event was post 2013, and "became what it is today"
mircea_popescu: "usg made the us army into what it is today" "you mean a useless piece of shit, janissary corps 2.0 ?" "yeah!"
BingoBoingo: Well, that's what it is today. It is thing derped much about and they celbrate the accreted derp
mircea_popescu: better story, "dood took 80% pay cut trying to make a secure drop thing work ; failed because ustards are retarded ; naggumed self".
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Perhaps naggumed "self" after finding bug needing fix that handlers didn't want fixed? Threatened defection to Republic and all?
BingoBoingo: Hopefully the next one has the sense to defect to the republic before thumbing nose at old handlers
BingoBoingo: But UStardation likely too deep for that. Gotta play seekrit Agent
BingoBoingo: Are you sure? Are the laffs worth it compared to other laffs you could be having? Like laffs on the seekrit beach
mircea_popescu: well i dunno i can just add everything to opportunity cost, the fact that the sun's not a cube may overshadow all these considerations.
BingoBoingo: Well yes, everything else is opportunity cost taking away from the critical sun cubing effort.
mircea_popescu: but, in any case, salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the self-same drowning.
BingoBoingo: The sooner we cube the sun, strap it to a pallet and abscond the more time it will take the terrans to realize the TMSR was the alien invasion after all
BingoBoingo: But yes, gotta cought the water or not cough
BingoBoingo: Anyways latest rumor taking the alt-alt by storm is USG's obvious preparation for fake alien invasion.
BingoBoingo: It's the someone dug through cold war freedom of information act'd plans and filtered through through NASA's recent hype over weird space rocks
BingoBoingo: Or it's marketing for the ongoing undeath of the X-files
mircea_popescu: ie "But they have to go to therapy because the clinic requires it because Medicaid requires it (integrated care), and the patients need the clinic because that's how they're getting their SSI, not to mention the Zannies. The docs need them to come because that's how they earn their living, and the government allows this because it needs someone to deal with American poverty until either we discover cold fusion or the aliens
mircea_popescu: invade. The government doesn't tolerate this, it doesn't turn a blind eye towards it, it explicitly allows it. The only thing it forbids is billing for a service not performed (e.g. ghost patient.)" and all that.
BingoBoingo: At this point the marketing cancer is too advanced to tell
mircea_popescu: apparently cold fusion too hard, quantum computers failed to deliver, so...
BingoBoingo: Hey, Elon Musk "lost" a DoD satellite according to widely reported rumours and innuendos. Let the ambiguity reign
BingoBoingo: Only certain thing is that noone wants to be a goat at scaping time.
knubie: mircea_popescu: think so.. feel bad for the guy, his really copped it last few years, his slowly camouflaged into an Albino
mircea_popescu: ironically, "conviction" of imaginary rape in sweeden would have resulted in better living conditions and 5 years is truly excessive anyway.
mircea_popescu: general rule being that it's always much better to openly mock the fucktards than to take them seriously.
shinohai: Maybe Venezuela will take him and he can mine their new fiat cryptocurrency
mircea_popescu: ie, between approach 1, where 2012 assange'd have told anders perkelev he's a retarded cuck and should be ashamed of himself in fromt of teh HD, ended up ~maybe~ convicted of the swedish equivalent of
http://trilema.com/2011/americanii-au-disperata-nevoie-de-un-sut-in-cur/ and told same anders perkelev in 2015ish that a) he's still just as much of a retarded cuck as he was in 2012 and b) meanwhile he's also a retarded cuck wh
mircea_popescu: would have delivered much better results in 2018 than the path actually taken, 2), where assange sat in cramped ecuador embassy quarters for five years and got a ~toilet paper roll's worth of pompous "un declarations".
mircea_popescu: perelman had enough fucking sense to tell the ustards where to shove their soiled tp, assange somehow not bright enough to figure it out ?
shinohai: Maduro announced around Xmas they are making a altcorn "backed by oil, gas, gold and diamond reserves"
shinohai: This is what happens when you elect socialist bus drivers to be your leader.
knubie: shinohai, in a bit may need a hand to finish off from last night :P
shinohai: Finishing work costs extra, those rubber gloves ain't gonna buy themselves.
knubie: lol, what doesn't cost these days.. >:)
shinohai: I jest, just pm me when you are ready, I'll be around somewhere this morning.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 06:30 mircea_popescu: basically early google bubble "search", let's hack speech into a broken device that can only be used to communicate to those people we have nothing to say to.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 14:24 mircea_popescu: "James’s encyclopedic knowledge of computer and network security was a key reason why newsrooms were comfortable adopting SecureDrop when it was still seen as something relatively new and unknown." what THE FUCK are we talking about, am i in some kind of reality distortion field ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 14:28 mircea_popescu: better story, "dood took 80% pay cut trying to make a secure drop thing work ; failed because ustards are retarded ; naggumed self".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is likely true ; certainly the latter sophist episode in greekworld gives much support to theory. greek advantage over original gypsies is just being small and so T manageable.
mircea_popescu: note however the evident egyptian relation : same process, just as small, accompanying feats of reason, and died of old age.
mircea_popescu: but -- let it be said that alphabet mega tool on this road. yes perhaps "end of road" looks unappealing, but it makes hella difference what you travel in.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 17:59 mircea_popescu: hows teh ada musling coming along ?
mircea_popescu: (yes they have a cvasi-alphabet, but a) it has 500 "letters" or some shit and b) it was invented about at the same time as emacs split)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-07 04:53 esthlos: issue resolved by moving to 2016 ada
ave1: Yes, I've looked at that, gprbuild uses an internal function that should be in 2016 but seems to be missing, so I'm rebuilding everything from scratch
ave1: (also like gnat, gprbuild 2016 needs gprbuild to build etc)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ave1 detailed notes of the adventure would be rather useful.
ave1: yes, I will make a write-up
BingoBoingo: In other news, somebody call Blofield: NVIDIA GPUs appear to be vulnerable to SPECTRE
ave1: (currently also writing up my adventures in building ch1)
knubie: TomServo: ouch, costly mistake
TomServo: And here I was giving giving OSTK credit for /supposedly/ keeping the bitcoin income rather than using bitpay like everyone else.
mircea_popescu: that's ok, im sure coinbase will make them whole etc. inca dun steal from itself.
shinohai: TomServo: Naturally Brian Krebs is now taking credit for this from anyone that will listen
☟︎ TomServo: shinohai: And making donations to charity!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 15:26 ave1: (also like gnat, gprbuild 2016 needs gprbuild to build etc)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-31 15:31 zineKing: Respected for his contribution, for founding GNU.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 15:30 shinohai: TomServo: Naturally Brian Krebs is now taking credit for this from anyone that will listen
BingoBoingo: Hopefully will return to numbers and writing from the data center.
shinohai: "Bitcoin Candy (CDY) is a new chain forked from Bitcoin Cash at the height of 512666. The original BCH holders will be compensated with 1000 CDY for every BCH held. "
shinohai: "Block 512666" <<< Easy there, Satan
shinohai: Aside from that one, we have Bitcoin Smart and Bitcoin Interest within ~2 weeks
shinohai: "Bitcoin Interest ("BCI") is a frictionless global payment system focusing on three key areas Technology, Community, and Savings. Our payment system has a new integrated savings technology that allows our users to park their coins and earn interest. "
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 16:26 shinohai: "Bitcoin Interest ("BCI") is a frictionless global payment system focusing on three key areas Technology, Community, and Savings. Our payment system has a new integrated savings technology that allows our users to park their coins and earn interest. "
mircea_popescu: just as "will take over bitcoin" as mit's later identical insanities.
shinohai: I wasn't here for those lulz was still in heathendom
mircea_popescu: recall, his pow was flawed so he had this scheme whereby you'd "Deposit" your coins and basically get to write the blockchain for it.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 20:13 mircea_popescu: "# We use c=0.005 which has been experimentally found to be optimal in processing time for common PC under MS Windows and values of k of practical interest. A different c value may be desirable for use in different computing environments." << check it out asciilifeform ! IT IS SATOSHI ALL OVER AGAIN. why. WHY!!!
mircea_popescu: also in next generation fuck world there's no need for strip clubs, autist bois get it via tube in their garage
shinohai: That is indeed Proof of Stake asciilifeform ..... here, have 1 million phree Draculcoin
mircea_popescu: sadly pot is actually better than pow in all respects.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 01:02 mircea_popescu: i'm vaguely curious how useful this'd be, "article X includes 003/101/209/309/402/801/908 !"
mircea_popescu: (the original cause for adlai friend's blacklisting in the bitcoin community, that scam)
mircea_popescu: since the chip you discuss could be made out of extant bitcoin miner + yubikey arrangement, they must both be just as linear
mircea_popescu: yes ; all assemblages of cogs are gearboxes not electronic computers.
mircea_popescu: how is "you got a nutria sable hat" not similarly infective ?
mircea_popescu: an ideal pretending to be a real. and convincingly, it'd seem.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: similar discussion embedded re both argentina and marriage/fertility
mircea_popescu: hey, "modern democracy" man imagines self some kind of 17th century french noble, has all the problems of same and none of the resources.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform scotland was going to be polonial cower!
shinohai: But to me, the best of the day comes from the Ethtards: "RocketICO is the world’s first decentralized accelerator based on the DAO concept, where startups interact with experts and investors"
mircea_popescu: inb4 it's a scam chick, really accts manned by worthless 20something dudes, O NOES
shinohai: Looking at site js, it has canned reply that comes up like most of these sites.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 17:03 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767519 <<< o look, when the saudis "bought" that piece of shit it ... wasn't "corruption" and the saudi state very much does not need to take measure to eliminate the "corruption" of giving usg money. it's only when non-usg gets dough that the idiot neets need to stand up and herpderp on social media about "corruption" amirite ?
jhvh1: shinohai: No GeoIP information found for 46.101.112.62
shinohai: Guess they don't like opportunities!
mircea_popescu: but, i guess all the 36yo suicides gotta come from SOMEWHERE.
shinohai: For lulz and only for the luz knubie
mircea_popescu: knubie think about it this way : the only reason 3-4bn women live in poverty today is that they are TOO FUCKING DUMB to pick free dough off the ground.
knubie: yeah, i noticed.. lol funny shit.. but i swear one of them looks so familiar
knubie: mircea_popescu: totally agree with you on that one
mircea_popescu: definitive cap on any possible "social security" discussion ever ; and, obviously, none of the proponents feel any sort of impetuus to address the item that ended their fanfic.
shinohai: Sooner is better than later, as mp says .... the reward used to be 10 whole bitcents
knubie: If it was back to late 90's & early 00's that list would be huge...
mircea_popescu: shinohai pretty sure originally it was like a coin or somesuch, in 2014.
knubie: lmao, it's a good PR move for BTC...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but as far as single individual is concerned, well, they can forego profits for all sorta reasons.
deedbot: Covale voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: "maybe taleb has been on a monster bender since 2014, hasn't yet read it". etc.
knubie: Titties tag: 6bb9 1297 is the funniest shit ever..
knubie: the thumbs up & wicked smile
mircea_popescu: but then again if one needs such ellaborate proofs that anxious behaviour is improductive...
shinohai: I'm still convinced there is some Romanian magic in that article
shinohai: I met one of the girls and all her hot friends! Though only one came back to participate iirc
knubie: back in the day, IRC was flooded with females..
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 17:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm.
mircea_popescu: i think still is, but this particular network is more like technocuck than pure irc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except the whole thing's quite plainly and publicly documented.
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of the first, it's a matter of the 100thst.
trinque went and squatted efnet #trilema, but they don't have any notion of chanserv, can't register.
Covale: a stranger, pretty much. used to get on here every now and then years ago
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 17:59 mircea_popescu: here it goes : "did you know, women, that before pantsuited hilarity clinton was invented, you had problems XYZ ? and that afterwards, these were resolved ?" "nope" "we'll... it's all recorded for all enternity-till-year-end on jezbel" "Where is this wonder ?" "oh, DO WE REALLY STILL HAVE TO ?!?! IN 2018 ?!?! WE'VE ALL MOVED PAST THAT!!!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ? for one thing can immediately trade it for honda ; for the other thing can just let sit in deedbot.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 16:54 mircea_popescu: an ideal pretending to be a real. and convincingly, it'd seem.
Covale: was wondering what you´d make of it, hence why I´m here
mircea_popescu: Covale low effort nonsense, failed to mean anything back in 2015, subsequent rehashes sorta like subsequent hillary clinton bids.
ben_vulpes: Covale: tard alarms should have fired at unqualified use of "blockchain" as a noun
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, first type of imperial scar tissue is "oh, cult" ; but 2nd type is "oh, famous".
Covale: by the way, who on earth would already register this nickname ?
Covale: I literally never thought of it until like 5 days ago...
Covale: I wasn´t on IRC for years man
Covale: by the way hello mircea_popescu :)
knubie: Saints Cyril and Methodius ?
deedbot: Covale` voiced for 30 minutes.
Covale`: <knubie> Covale: Vote Oprah - I can´t :(
jhvh1: shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14573.79, vol: 18960.07387646 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14485.0, vol: 57984.97278647 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14616.0, vol: 4091.38344133 | Volume-weighted last average: 14512.3881289
shinohai: Covale` missed the golden opportunity to register as Covfefe
deedbot: Covale` voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: Covale` voiced for 30 minutes.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: from_ffa voiced for 30 minutes.
from_ffa: a regular lurker of the chan. just started to muck around with your ffa series
from_ffa: I already did a few years back. and yes, the gpg key is at hand
from_ffa: v.pl[v9994]:L398 -> `rm -rf $press[0]` if -d $press[0];
from_ffa: so is it really necessary to nuke the dest dir when pressing a vpatch? :|
ben_vulpes: yes, one does not press a patch, one presses a tree.
ben_vulpes: if you want to patch an existing tree, the patch util is to your left
from_ffa: at any rate, if I run "v.pl p ~/workspace ffa_ch1_genesis.vpatch" I expect to find ffa alongside all other projects. not an empty workspace dir with ffa in it
☟︎ from_ffa: consider at least documenting this, please :)
from_ffa now off to muck around with gpg and an irc client
from_ffa: nothing serious, everything was versioned. but yea
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
BigTexasBingo: Any more experienced travelers know what the deal is with Latinas and their mothers?
BigTexasBingo: Story later, but short is find a Dominican for language immersion and get introduced to the mother at a time I would call too soon if it wasn't how every chica seems to operate here
☟︎ shinohai wonders how many people running noscript have actually entered something there.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 20:17 from_ffa: at any rate, if I run "v.pl p ~/workspace ffa_ch1_genesis.vpatch" I expect to find ffa alongside all other projects. not an empty workspace dir with ffa in it
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> at least ~/workspace << i gotta dig this up from the logs. but older versions of v.pl actually *would not* over-write the original dir, would fail and say 'dir exists' or something.
mod6: based upon some commentary (going by memory here) lead us to the decision to delete the press directory even if it existed and then create a new directory even with the same name and re-press.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 04:35 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i suppose alternatively could just say DO NOT PRESS TWICE! DELETE DIR BETWEEN PRESSES. << agree. there obviously needs to be a check in there - if the press directory already exists, warn the user and stop.
mod6: thread begins here ^
mod6: if this behaviour should be changed, before next release, now is the time to get your opinions heard.
mod6: from_ffa: sorry I missed ya on here. but for now, yeah, that behavior is intended.
mircea_popescu: mod6 eh, user can just read the v as god meant, know what it does, etc.
mod6: and also, fwiw, that change did not make it into the normal v document. but did end up in the changes list in the email. i'll have to make a note to add that to the doc.
mircea_popescu: can't run around changing ~your~ v to match obscure config expectation of userbase ; high time userbase gets literate and walks out of the "i just wanted to" mindset.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 20:29 BigTexasBingo: Story later, but short is find a Dominican for language immersion and get introduced to the mother at a time I would call too soon if it wasn't how every chica seems to operate here
mod6: mircea_popescu: aha. fair enough.
mod6: I try to keep docs up to date. And add protections where they are needed. Hopefully my vtron is, over time, getting better. Not worse.
mod6: It's a work in progress. :]
deedbot: Jautenim voiced for 30 minutes.
Jautenim: mircea_popescu my issue is that I had a wrong expectation wrt the press operation and cut meself a finger
mircea_popescu: well apparently also had correctly set up table, plugged it right back.
Jautenim: even if the behavour is not changed maybe is it worth documenting
Jautenim: !!v otp 21A647DF0EA739D6CF54F4E10F4F9F499C60BFE486168F9C10B098C444C530C0
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated Jautenim 1 at 2015/05/18 16:44:02 << New blood.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 21:49 mod6: based upon some commentary (going by memory here) lead us to the decision to delete the press directory even if it existed and then create a new directory even with the same name and re-press.
mircea_popescu: it's like a hammer that'll pound a finger it had not necessarily created ifg you put the finger where it pounds.
mircea_popescu: note tho that i am NOT going to enforce any kind of responsibility for vtrons. the item says "MAKE YOUR OWN!!! vtron" for a fucking reason, and this is that reason -- if you use another man's parachute package better not be surprised by the fact he likes to keep girl undies there.
shinohai: More shitcoin lulz: "Linda Cryptocoin is a hybrid coin with more than 70% pure PoS Block reward phase and 99% APR. This coin comes with a masternode which ensures lightening fast secured transaction, multi-wallets, encrypted messaging and stealth address for complete anonymity. "
mircea_popescu: just putting it in teh plain that it works exactly opposite from most items, where it's rather "do it right so i don't have to have it redone"
shinohai: Ninety-nine percent dontchaknow
mircea_popescu: it's funny how by now the "idea men" / mit grads notion of bitcoin is closer to some kind of biological item. "99% pure!!"
mircea_popescu: scam of all time, a horde of useless 20somethinfg dicklets burdened under an immense pile of debt to "repay" for the "Service" they were rendered, which 99% consists of utterly unjustified and absolutely unsustainable self-expectations
mircea_popescu: chief among the list -- the notion that useless 20something dicklet is ever going to repay six figure debts, as if he's some kind of fucking aeroplane or something.
mircea_popescu: judgement by similarity has rendered a bunch of esltards imagine 1k usd is something they can afford. ridoinculous.
mircea_popescu: myeah. quite, the best approximation of "what's the usg all about ?" well... it sells to idiots the notion they're successful scammers.
shinohai: !~google "But I used the juice"
mircea_popescu: "there's two kinds of scams : those who work on honest man, and those who don't. we call the later superlinear for reasons"
mircea_popescu: "that was a great blowjob. would you like someone's wedding ring ?" "lol sure"" here, pick"
mircea_popescu: this altogether depends, buyer of dud may well attempt to pass it on.
mircea_popescu: elementarily -- what happens to most counterfit currency
mircea_popescu: the difference between linear and superlinear scams is that the former aren't actually "social reform movements".
mircea_popescu: obama "change bla bla" -- the platonic superlinear scam.