a111: Logged on 2018-08-19 16:51 BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: Tomorrow (the 20th) you may arrage the nuke/pave of mircea_popescu's rented rockchip with asciilifeform. << Aite
Mocky: good morning, how goes?
mircea_popescu: oh great, got a buncha'bandoned eggs. and >20k flotsam. life's great when you have a bot.
Mocky: when I went opened comp this morning half expected chat window to be flashing with with ping "bot dun work!"
mod6: mornin' mircea_popescu
mod6: thanks asciilifeform && BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ack, caffinating and then heading over
mircea_popescu: doesn't it link "Si nu-i da canoane multe ca cu mine is facute si nu-i da canone grele ca pacatile-s a mele." for you ?
mircea_popescu: but it is genuinely fun -- even if it doesn't seem so to the victim in the moment, it does retrospectively.
mircea_popescu: it's pizdet, an animal collective term for young females. ~cattle.
mircea_popescu: right. but no, in ro -et is collective noun derivative. storfet, the group of cheap whores, from stoarfa, cheap whore.
mircea_popescu: (this being the ur-case. older, and no doubt the model for the others)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tis the fate of classical text, whadda ya want
mircea_popescu: this is what "classical" means -- some peasants lost it meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you feel like patching mp-wp to do just this, i'd very much run it.
mircea_popescu: no need for n deep. just save copy of the item linked.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 13:53 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other shoelace-and-gum copies of tmsr artifacts,
http://edgecase.net/pages/how_to_buy_edgecase_credits << d00d with a kinda blog, tried to copy mircea_popescu's old paid-articles scheme (spoiler : dunwork) -- (
http://edgecase.net has coupla possibly-interesting items, compiler-wranglings, translations of old lit, btc tx likbez of sorts, etc )
mircea_popescu: which somehow reminds me -- the general reaction of the average retarded gringo ("retired" here because "Rich" etc dontcha know) upon running across my peculiar domestic arrangements ("she's my slave") is to propose they're hip to the whole scene, and mention swinger's clubs.
mircea_popescu: like, we totally gotta go there someday. because the fact that their local "girlfriend" who "isn't a puta" but "you support, you know, financially" and "don't know if she'll be around in six months, or for that matter two" is immediately gravitating to my girls has ~0 to do with the fact they've been here years and speak less spanish than my bmw, and with the fact that the REASON they never learned it is because they fucking
mircea_popescu: so by this logic, the obvious thing i'd want to do is go to the place where idiots just like him take whores hired for the weekend, to trade my decade+ committed personal whores for their mercenary randos. because totally, i can't hire my own weekend whores if i feel like it, i gotta participate in the best buy of cunt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're ubiquitous. nobody with any sense stays in the ustard lands ; which is why the us is so overpoweringly stupid. suffers from the africa effect -- everyone who's still there, still there FOR A REASON.
mircea_popescu: usually males, and usually after a divorce, whence they discovered that the land is utterly hostile.
mircea_popescu: whereas the females (generally enriched by a divorce, more rarely by a "career" ie stealing from men via tax/administrative apparatus rather than via "alimony"/court apparatus) stick and try to hilary.
mircea_popescu: it's fucking easy to leave, and you're a moron for staying this long.
mircea_popescu: but then again, everyone gotta fuck his own ass in his own bed of nails, or w/e it is.
mircea_popescu: too bad miss piggy's illiterate, her story'd have made a great read in context.
mircea_popescu: nobody ever learns from another other than in a metaphorical sense.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well, she graduated with honros from college, apparently that does it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, "it makes me so nervous but i trust you" explains the difference -- slave's well advantaged wrt zek. who's a zek to trust, he's supposed to be something entirely else.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 01:42 mircea_popescu: but the notion that anyone ever wanted a male is the most ridiculous nonsense ever. other than for steaks, xy has no use.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:39 asciilifeform: dun think there is much in the practicals for asciilifeform & similar zeks to learn from the gurlz tho.
mircea_popescu is strategically "fortunate", no longer has to ask "now how is it i manage" a few years later. this, of course, happenstance.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:30 BingoBoingo: more heavily to the end of the year? As it is I am still effectively paying out of my diminishing savings to live amongst the retards.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 23:50 mircea_popescu: aww poor bb lost weight! how you holding up down there ?
mod6: hey nice! Thanks Gentlemen.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:17 mircea_popescu: there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe.
mircea_popescu: the other side of "it works if you work it" being obviously that you gotta work it till it works.
mircea_popescu: at least we have a working model of how this whole "psychological transsexualism" business work. "trapped" my fucking left foot.
mircea_popescu will confess he always found it suspicious how a buncha derps who "never heard of trilema" somehow magically decided they're really women trapped in wrong bodies the VERY FUCKING MOMENT male market value dropped to nothing at all.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: somehow unknown in the days of Denn träf‘ jede Kugel apart ihren Mann wo kriegten die Könige ihre Soldaten dann?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but ~mentally~ see... psychologic mechanisms resolve psychological problems, not real.
mircea_popescu: the first and foremost task before every would-be "intelligence", artificial or otherwise, is to silence the johnson noise.
mircea_popescu: how about that! isn't that the greatest pun that ever lived ?
mircea_popescu: right. i pick heuristically rather than systematically.
trinque dying over here over johnson noise
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 18:21 mircea_popescu will confess he always found it suspicious how a buncha derps who "never heard of trilema" somehow magically decided they're really women trapped in wrong bodies the VERY FUCKING MOMENT male market value dropped to nothing at all.
mircea_popescu: rather, tis the necessary blossom of bogart's "all that dun ammount to a hill of beans in this crazy world". the necessary result of the "rationalist" fallacy (seen sprawling in say
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828645 ) and the century reversal of the penile fixation (from stuffy vienna's "civilised world" anxiety of "what if dad cuts it off" to today's stuffy washington's "civilised world" anxity of "what if it plays t
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 04:08 mircea_popescu: btw, did we do the "you too can be novelist, buy our narrative card deck and kit" 1800s us entrepreneurialism ?
mircea_popescu: he same role as the chunk of wood on dog's collar, prevents it from going through the bars"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:43 mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, "it makes me so nervous but i trust you" explains the difference -- slave's well advantaged wrt zek. who's a zek to trust, he's supposed to be something entirely else.
mircea_popescu: the notion of this imaginary "perfectibility" of the individual human had to crash eventually.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 18:05 asciilifeform: revisiting upthread : if mircea_popescu , or even say wykeham professor of logic , tells me 'yer a tard, problem is very simple' i'ma yes, nod, and not try to somehow argue that not. but it dun magically grow asciilifeform moar brain, can only go and think, and possibly one day think out of paper bag, how else.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:40 mircea_popescu: nobody ever learns from another other than in a metaphorical sense.
mircea_popescu: there's this nonsense that emerged as a replacement jolly-joker philosophy out of the french revolution. they had a major problem picking something to believe in, and eventually settled on "humanism" in the "enlightenment" sense of the term.
mircea_popescu: much like the united states were stuck because the only king they had avaialble didn't want the job, ended up enthroning a length of poster.
mircea_popescu: basically, "all humans could be any other humans, and if they aren't it's because NOT YET". much better than whatever marat believed in, or the jacobins, or etc. and here by "better" we mean both a) inconsequential, improductive, entirely steriole and b) flashy, marketable
mircea_popescu: in short, it's better because it produces no things and lots of words -- the ideal state for the jwz. that's what neil simon wants of life, yes, a situation where no things issue but as many words as possible.
mircea_popescu: then "consumerism" is the perfect hidey hut for this state of affairs -- "oh, we're dedicated to the production of things" "yes, for as long as they lack any substance".
mircea_popescu: i suppose the best illustration for this problem is ye olde bullet. as proper a quanta of civilisation as one might ever pick.
mircea_popescu: do you realise less than one in a million hits anything these days ?! never has the quarry/bullet relationship been this tenuous.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in a sense, there's never been things that were contained of as little thingness. really, 1ppm or less ? such performance takes surprise, fear and a fanatical devotion to the pope.
mircea_popescu: even if that were so, it's a different belief from impotence-on-wheels.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, jacobin stands today for "an immoderate search for truth, more liable to burn shit down than discover any truths".
mircea_popescu: immaturity, if you will, most intelligent small children are consumed by a desire to destroy their toys to see what's inside.
mircea_popescu: weren't you going to do an inventory of your midden, to finance something or the other at some point ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, for they interested in "price theory" : the above is an exemplar of an interesting class of economic objects, anti-metropolitan let's call them.
mircea_popescu: because the actual item delivered (something + ~shipping~) varies according to who buys it, there's actually a larger incentive for agents located ~at the periphery~ to buy it. ie, if you live in paris and shipping is 1 ecu, a bit of 100 ecu means you're paying 99 ecu for the item. if you live however in christchurch and shipping is 99 ecu, a 100 ecu bid means you're getting the item for 1 ecu.
mircea_popescu: obviously people bake in the cost of their peripheral-ness in their price judgements, which is why i'm willing to pay 10 bux a pound for cherries here, whereas in romania they're ~free for the picking.
mircea_popescu: consequently, this sort of auction actually favours the shipping, especially of choice goods, AWAY from the city.
mircea_popescu: ie, "all good things flow ~away~ from the town", reversal of ye olde greek observation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik. and mostly sold to non-metropolitans, because those are fucked in the head and have "fashions" to explain why they suck.
mircea_popescu: in any case, let it not be said economy is ~necessarily~ centralizing. if one uses the strand of centralizing devices, it can be. one doesn't have to.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. notice how amazon carefully charges the shipping separately.\
mircea_popescu: but yes, it could be. if not specifically suppressed ~by policy~, the major-est market for german machinery would have been russia, and the biggest buyers of machineguns the zulu etc.
mircea_popescu: as it is, the politics carefully (and secretly) constraining it, all that's left visible is harmless nonsense, a la "saudis buyers of luxury cars"
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the general, a most important chore of the republic is to destroy the economic basis of "paris", ie the notional metropolis,
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 20:17 mircea_popescu: "you want diplomatic relations, first you pay 10x what we think you broke should be valued at, then maybe"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 22:49 mircea_popescu: anyway, ~this~ is the "network effect" advantage : that should amazon's cart fail for three minutes, amazon would lose ~0 dollar value -- those schmucks will just come back. this is the niche the empire ever hopes to inhabit, and that it works is directly evident in the decrease of quality of life the zeks permitted over the past century. great-grandfather of ustard, ozlander or argentine lived A LOT better than the grandfath
mircea_popescu: in general, "sell the policeman an apple for twice what you'd sell it to an orc" is sounder policy than alternatives.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 20:37 asciilifeform: ( incidentally, if you think m3 ~screw~ is impossible to find in shops here -- try a ~tap~. one time asciilifeform broke a m3 tap and wanted a replacement quickly, and like complete idiot tried to buy ~in shops~. result : wasted weekend )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 21:01 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: astronomical rents, i suspect, also play a part. it is ~impossible to stay open if you stock anything that doesn't move continuously. specialist shops are the first to die.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 14:14 asciilifeform: kurt tank tore out his hair, iirc 'they don't even know how to make machine screws'
mircea_popescu: in fact the us is pretty much there, it's just you don't live in "midwest".
mircea_popescu: ye olde hope of the "democratic" "paficist" panworldism : if nobody can as much as fart without involving ~everyone else, "world peace".
a111: Logged on 2018-08-16 16:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the probable "cause" for there not being sane dict for living langs, you realise, is that there IS such a thing as a cannonical body of greek, but "who is to say what anglovomit does not make the cut".
mircea_popescu: "if everything's uncomputably large then therefore i no longer have to be able to say 7 * 69 = 483 within a second or so"
mircea_popescu: "why should anyone have to notice 69's but a 7 under 70"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i get to read, you realise, the A papers of contemporary valedictorians and whatnot. the incas' brightest and bravest, career women to the last soul and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: then idiots wanna talk about "what'd millionaires do with their time". certaintly, certainly not this, taking apart the heart of one's enemies so not on the list.
ben_vulpes: eyy, anyone want to guess what i found in the toothpaste?
mircea_popescu: try bilka. sounds lulzy, but it's ok bulgarian "homeopathic" producer.
ben_vulpes: "homeopathic"? almost but not quite exactly ersatz ersatz or what
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 20:03 asciilifeform: the only reason i even use lulazon for anyffing, 'pay 80bux/y and the rest of the yr can order 3 m3 screws and two metres of #10 copper shipped sameday for 0 extra' etc
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is how things go in lulzistan : "nutty" ideologies that survive do so because pick up the practical slack of soviet idiocy.
mircea_popescu: hence mormons, "we belive in weird shit, bless our underwear ~~~AND DON'T TOLERATE ANNOYING WOMEN~~~".
mircea_popescu: hence whatever, orthodox jews, "we wear weird hair AND OUR FOODSTUFFS ARE EDIBLE"
mircea_popescu: this is where "homeopathic" ended up : "want some toothpaste without mint, sugar or fluoride ? aaaaaahahahah, here you go."
mircea_popescu: it HAS to be "strange" and "weird", otherwise can't make it in the ocean of "woke" shit.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 22:03 mircea_popescu: phf no, they just didn't have fish at the fish shop ; the meat they didn't have at the meat shop.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-03 01:37 asciilifeform: the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones
a111: Logged on 2016-02-15 17:58 asciilifeform: specifically how there is no place in usa where one can 'i will pay double for non-monsanto but i don't give a fuck about 'gmo' and i sure as fuck don't want to see homeopathic crud in the shop'
mircea_popescu: if you think of it as a potentials map, suddenly it becomes evident : large cancerous accretion mass drives all other things closer together
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 04:23 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at one point i needed some conductive cloth (the kind with silver strands) for an experiment. to my great surprise, i discovered that there is a large manufacturer in usa, and they do brisk business with folks suffering from precisely the kind of phobia described in decimation's link.
mircea_popescu: stuff to do in the "den" for the sort of retard who can't figure out by looking whether charger cord reaches the socket or not, gotta try it out
mircea_popescu: kinda in the manner windows-only interface gvies away the george supran-style "scientists", the kind that researches community consensuses.
trinque: poor guy. I had the good fortune to watch half a hardware startup get laid off at 16.
trinque: (somehow... didn't can trinque)
trinque: asciilifeform: don't worry, other half had to get raped on stock options prior to subsequent sale
trinque: sale for debt afaik, investors also fucked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'd be surprised what % of trumpeted "great soviet financial coups" are exactly of the substance and consistency of forum investors' victories.
mircea_popescu: and slides in under the "who'd pull a stink over 0.85%"
mircea_popescu: then you're stuck maintaining a whole "it department", the idiotic airs of "superiority" by the dweebs involved y compris, because gotta interface all that junk.
mircea_popescu: it was an item continuously, since the days of chet tryina get 3 different shit packages to work by excruciating them on a wide wooden plank
mircea_popescu: all the way to typographic nonsense in the 80s, which is why crapple even exists today.
mircea_popescu: fuck all that shit, two generations of castrated morons thinking they have something to say to this world.
mircea_popescu: where's that trilema piece with the "baby turtles would have eaten you for breakfast" thing
mircea_popescu: who the fuck would want to compile every time a web hits
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 14:43 asciilifeform: anyway erlang is imho only worth discussing as part of a larger pattern -- industry after industry independently discovered that c -- and its entire approach to logic -- is poison
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 14:50 asciilifeform: trinque: erlang wasn't simply about 'uptime', or even 'no pointer arithmetic', it also was the only case i know of where process migration actually worked
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 14:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will also nitpick : 'erlang' does not belong in the list, it was a 1980s product that worked quite well in its industrial niche (large telco switches) but was later stolen and used as a totem by the folx from yesterday's thread (
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633873 )
mircea_popescu: mod6 can you spin me up a mp-wp instance on the shared item, see if we can counteract the illiterate part ?