mircea_popescu: 2 types of bum : he who lives in hovel where can see the stars through the ceiling, and he who lives in hovel where can touch the ceiling.
mircea_popescu: whole buildings of type 3 still exist here, unmolested since the 60s
mircea_popescu: back when middle class was quite pointedly != bum yet.
BingoBoingo: 660 watt max at 250 VAC for GE "Medium Base Keyless White Porcelain Lampholder" which is basic $6 flat ceramic disk with bulb socket
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 21:13 phf: it's safe to save 66.35.48.19 for glyf.org, it's been the same ip for the past 10 years or so. in fact, assuming this is not some weird overflow issue, today is a birthday on glyf.org machine. 2048 days uptime
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's ok, it's because upwards mobility, see? you can now touch ceilings your parents couldn't.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i think you mean (return (many happy))
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: glorious socialist wasteland of stealing the stolen from
ben_vulpes: but hey, at least standard deduction is going to 24k for the married men
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz he keeps saying things that go perfectly with it ? i dunno.
ben_vulpes: can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus
mircea_popescu: if you say "can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus" the parser wil lsettle on "that's because wife and girl share a bedroom."
ben_vulpes: mistress is 90% joke anyways! tell wife going to visit mistress, save time on mistress at shop!
ben_vulpes: i snort derisively at you mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: my gut is hanging over it, can't tell anymore
ben_vulpes: "it's fighting PUNCH not fighting PAUNCH you nincompoops!"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 21:53 asciilifeform: ~0 of which gets through typical lamp dome, just as nobody gets sunburn from sitting near a window indoors.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a thing of the 70s, mostly gone now. the modern northern "window" is so insulating as you couldn't believe.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 23:46 asciilifeform: led lamp makers are scamming folx left and right in entirely nonsubtle ways (i just unscrewed 5th dead '20 year life!111' bulb this year, none were older than ~1y)
mircea_popescu: having menawhile colored their glass a very superb tint of rose through metal deposition
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 23:48 asciilifeform: one reason is that the chumps often submit'em, for free, for 'recycle', and the lamp house gets to sell ~same motherfucking lamp N times
mircea_popescu: somehow - they will pay. i ain't giving jack for free.
mircea_popescu: all this "oh, we're all friends" bs is for the dogs. i ain't fiatola's friend.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha yes i play the exact opposite game. "oh, the recycling bin is the big one? great, that's where everything goes."
mircea_popescu: heh, they're doing the whole "portland the spacestation, only so much volume available" thign there huh
mircea_popescu: yes, "manufacturer thought things through", but not in the sense usually contemplated.
mircea_popescu: idiots. who the fuck do they think they are, seriously, buncha inept alt-white people.
mircea_popescu: "oh, he's not from around here, which means we can't live in his house but NEITHER CAN HE IN OURS! because that's how white man supremacy works, totally!"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.) << Have you hunted for miswired low voltage hvac or door bell transformers? I had a "bulb killing fixture" that was tamed by removing backfeeding noisy ass doorbell transformer.
mircea_popescu: honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment. << apparently they are for backfeeding current into switched circuits they are wired off of when said circuits are "off"
BingoBoingo: Count wires in junction box and enter attic to view from above?
BingoBoingo: No such thing in residential because previous tenants or owners "Pro Idiotas"
BingoBoingo: In so far as many magnetic studfinders can tell, galvanized pipe and emt conduit are promising places to drill and screw
BingoBoingo: Studfinders? Nah magnet on a pivot that "catches" on ferrous metal like nails
BingoBoingo sometimes doesn't care to make 9v battery run just because fancy studfinder was thirsty
BingoBoingo: Stanley 47-400 is best studfinder by company which produced monster sensortron asciilifeform linked
BingoBoingo: That's what measuring tape is for, to check where stud ought to be
BingoBoingo: studs are thermally conductive relative to every else that should be in wall
ben_vulpes: naively, i figured cp simply overwrote the target
ben_vulpes: no-clobber options, delete-target options
ben_vulpes: i'm sure it's all very useful in the prevention of foot-shoosting but ugh
ben_vulpes: what i want is a "bitch do the obvious thing" switch
ben_vulpes: > Eshell does not support input redirection
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: one of the several emacs shell thingers
mircea_popescu: nuts, "this calender doesn't support pasta". wtf is it even there then
ben_vulpes: my jimmies ain't even rustled, par for the course
ben_vulpes: mod6: on previous thread, i have a vague memory of stuffing a RELEASE stanza in every file of a release to neck the tree down
ben_vulpes: anyways this came to my attention when i had the privkey tools vpatch on my table and it showed up *above* makefiles.vpatch in the output of both our flow utils, which spooked me
ben_vulpes: so i cracked everything open, and sure enough the patch in question doesn't touch any files touched in the makefiles vpatch
ben_vulpes: open topic for when folks wake up i suppose.
mircea_popescu: but as to the other thing, i'm not sure i follow. your v inverted patch flow ?
ben_vulpes: eh, the leaving of free money on the ground baffles me.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yeah i can't say i have a very good model of why it happens.
ben_vulpes: not inverted, as far as i can tell it's a fine place in the flow for it to be. i'm a bit discomfited, and am poking an old thread about "release vpatches" that seems to have surfaced unexplainedly in the makefiles vpatch
mircea_popescu gives it even odds this ends up with a "include prev hash in comments in files".
ben_vulpes: you advocated this at one other point too, right?
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing it as a solution ; i'm not even sure exactly what you're talking about. just lulzing to self.
ben_vulpes: notion, iirc, was to make a "release" vpatch that added *something* to *every file in the tree* to neck the patch graph down
mircea_popescu: i recall this being proposed but im not sure if it ever was accepted.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem of "how to sort two patches which alter entirely disjuncts subsets of the file set" is not exactly clear. unless they declare how they prefer to be sorted.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's also not clear such sorting is meaningful in principle.
ben_vulpes: i'm not particularly bent about the sorting, 'twas simply what made me look at the linked stanzas in curiosity. curious about "what of it", as you say.
Framedragger: from glyf.org source, '<meta name="ICBM" content="39.083611, -77.148333" />' << rockville town square, ~15mi north of washington, dc :p
davout: asciilifeform: was there a thread re the side-channel attacks on openssl's ecdsa signature?
☟︎ davout: from where i stand it seems to me that trb would be vulnerable to it when signing transactions
davout: which, incidentally, seems like yet another very good reason to fully exfiltrate the wallet
Framedragger: !~later tell gabriel_laddel_p "I cannot presently maintain a connection to IRC." << get a bouncer ffs. ping me if you'd like a free one
jhvh1: Framedragger: The operation succeeded.
Framedragger: it's a well known fact that an unbalanced high number of parentheses results in irc ping timeouts.
mircea_popescu: it MAY BE that the muslim wave actually improves female livestock on the old & wrinkly continent.
Framedragger: OT, anyone's done an egpu rig on an x220? i'm probably gonna do an abonimation, and connect an nvidia card to x220 via its expresscard slot. there's this antichrist-like adapter (
http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V2.1.html) which does the magic. bottleneck is expresscard (5 gbps or somesuch) but if one uses external monitor, it's all pretty good apparently.
☟︎ Framedragger: (not worth if you have a really high end gfx card tho - waste of money)
mircea_popescu: yeah external monitor plugged into external card works.
Framedragger: aha, otherwise too much bandwidth gfx card <-> cpu apparently
Framedragger: ever done something like that? :) portable rig is portable.
mircea_popescu: well, the bus becomes congested, it's not really designed to bridge north and south like that.
mircea_popescu: and yes i have. not particularly portable, but at some point people in $not-mentioned were offering "plug your laptop into the monitor" style videoconferencing
Framedragger: right, i can see how that can be bundled up into a business product.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 12:42 Framedragger: OT, anyone's done an egpu rig on an x220? i'm probably gonna do an abonimation, and connect an nvidia card to x220 via its expresscard slot. there's this antichrist-like adapter (
http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V2.1.html) which does the magic. bottleneck is expresscard (5 gbps or somesuch) but if one uses external monitor, it's all pretty good apparently.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 11:19 davout: asciilifeform: was there a thread re the side-channel attacks on openssl's ecdsa signature?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: k, good to know, thanks. it's just one bus lane afaict (pci express x1), ExpressCard 2.0, so 'double' the bandwidth i take it. 4-5gbps total
mircea_popescu: yeah pcie is becoming quite the proverbial tower of piles.
Framedragger: (i want to connect my x220 which does not have thunderb0lt)
Framedragger: ah yeah. there was an old 3g modem plugged into internal pcie, i removed it. pretty lulzy
mircea_popescu: anyway, major point here being "how expensive" is not a good criteria for card. either dig up in the specs or use the cards ppl runnign the thing ask you to
davout: asciilifeform: none in particular while discussing trb, "trb uses openssl, which is vulnerable to side channel attacks" came up
davout: yeah in the sense be on the same box, or physically close
mircea_popescu: more than one mactards threw hissy fit becase "I R HAS GOOD LAPTOP" "dude... it sucks, we can't tell you that it sucks politely, BUT IT DOES."
mircea_popescu: in the "but do you know who mai father is and why is hybrid mini not also boatcar!!1"
mircea_popescu: they're insane if they seriously imagine their tivo dumbassery has better chances this time around. but w/e, they DO imagine.
davout: asciilifeform: didn't experience that, what i did experience was "oh no, can't install valgrind because fuck you"
mircea_popescu: you're the worst sort of engineers, i swear, the kind who calculate tomato production of balcony and are proud to wash their teeth with a motorcycle engine adaptation contraption.
davout: mircea_popescu: finding memory leaks? uninitialized memory accesses etc? helps when teaching oneself c++
mircea_popescu: laptops aren't computers. they're not even female computers, they're toy computers.
mircea_popescu: like what ? something like amd fx 9500 is, i bet, way ahead anything apple ever put in anything they made.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: and it costs a coupla hundy not a coupla grand, either.
davout: !!rate jurov 4 met IRL, does what he says he will do.
davout: !!v BD384F58F7B6D80557DBC7EFEF8786B5E305239E6A7768683578F0FD9C728BBA
deedbot: davout updated rating of jurov from 3 to 4 << met IRL, does what he says he will do.
mircea_popescu: twice the cache, twice the cores, what the shit are you on about.
mircea_popescu: so then. you probably need a dozen bridged crapples to touch the amd box.
mircea_popescu: dude... explain what singularity you live in where a half the bus clock half the cores half the cache ONE QUARTER POWER chip is still, somehow, better.
mircea_popescu: at what is it better, at making you feel part of maga ?
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. laptops, not serious computers, 2016 like 2006 like 1996. end of story already.
mircea_popescu: i7 4870 was released mid 2014 ; the amd mid 2013 if memory serves.
mircea_popescu: ah. yes i guess 2016 apple laptop compares favourably to cheap-side 2009 desktop.
mircea_popescu: as i somehow doubt you spent 2k to build that box in 2009.
mircea_popescu: i guess if you bought it when it came out the opteron was like 1k or some shit.
mircea_popescu: neways. moral i guess being, stock up on above fxen, they're great and quite possibly the last good chip in human history.
mircea_popescu: slowly building the "tmsr hardware" thing. iirc there was another item also
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone is seriously proposing intel makes cpus.
mircea_popescu: yeah amd went the way of gaddafi even as intel went the way of obama.
mircea_popescu: "inauguration won't include yo yo ma, an obscure act trying to capitalize on random phrase spoken by cosmo kramer 20 years ago"
mircea_popescu: we're discussing obama here. i assume it must be something akin to the man - stole a name, ran with it.
mircea_popescu: since when the fuck does the whore get to score the john. get up on the stage and flash the goods.
trinque: these people wish the us could fart out a hitler to make them feel important enough to round up
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, schumer now crying over the "great victory" of "nuclear option" because guess what ? taking headcount to confirm from 60 to 51 mostly helps... trump.
mircea_popescu: !~google joint task force for the national capital region
mircea_popescu: they had a whole "military operation planning" thingee with a map and errything, just like in the movies.
mircea_popescu: those damned foreigners dun understand how the world works properly, desk fliers stuck doing it in garage.
mircea_popescu: rather curious how trump will navigate the dire straights of maga absolutely requiring a repeal of 20 years' worth of "harassment" business.
trinque: where are these people when Biden's kissing underage girls on camera in front of their parents ?
trinque: actually, I suppose with them the "underage" is sop
trinque: also loller at the private evidence; must've been a small dick pic
trinque: BingoBoingo: iirc there was a thread about pedos becoming the next protected class
shinohai: We must help spread clovergender awareness.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 14:05 mircea_popescu: slowly building the "tmsr hardware" thing. iirc there was another item also
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 14:05 mircea_popescu: slowly building the "tmsr hardware" thing. iirc there was another item also
mircea_popescu: check it out, dita von teese voted most likely to future.
mircea_popescu: or no, wait. it might have not worked. but whatever, same difference.
mircea_popescu: working, not working- what's important is what's inside.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall who we quoted re the "where are all the 5000 rubensen" argument ?
mircea_popescu: i don't care. there's no need for each individual item to be discussed. guy exists today because of the yahoo marketing ponzi scheme pre 2001 bubble. nfi why he's not in jail, but it is a shameful macula on the usg "justice" system.
mircea_popescu: neither did hitler. lived rest of life in "bunker", very different.
mircea_popescu: 50something. the altman handpuppet is iirc stoya's age.
mircea_popescu: of course, the woman vastly outperforms him, but whatevs. weirdos abound.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stoya is a competent fucktoy. altman is not a competent anything.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter. there's no "supposition of competence" for handpuppets.
mircea_popescu: a decade ago there was some cursory but detectable ranking by sense. much more gimmicky today.
mircea_popescu: yeah, ye olde "sam altman is the repository of the human decency of being a trite fuckwit just like sam altman"
mircea_popescu: yes but when greater fool went from being microsoft to being us fed, the standards relaxed.
mircea_popescu: plus the occasional actual item finds its way out of there.
mircea_popescu: i'm hard pressed to see anything in the "65bn" worth of vaporware that ycombinator counts for itself. they did what, a bunch of groupons/mediums ? ie, shareholder fraud of the cooked books version and shareholder fraud of the pie in the sky version ?
mircea_popescu: my only regret is that it's not written in javascript.
mircea_popescu: i fail to see this potential. looks entirely like "hey guise, let's agree on definition of ai that allows the pretense of sv technologee to survive a little longer plox "
mircea_popescu: (ftr, the musk "friendly ai" thingee had NINE employees. to medium's 150.)
mircea_popescu: this is readily the more promising lulzatron of the period.
ben_vulpes: what are the security risks of opening an ssh connection to a possibly hostile host?
ben_vulpes: i understand some amount of "x is risky", but...specifics are scant so far
mircea_popescu: that it crashes your ssh client, gains control of your box as the user that ran it, escalates it to root privilege, installs a rootkit that you can't take out without throwing out the mobo + hdd and disappears in a puff of smoke.
mircea_popescu: i know but why would you use the ssh client as a text editor
phf: "or you could ignore all of this stupid shit and buy a Masamune for 410USD plus the price of the hardware"
phf: oh oh, right, exactly. something about dat wording followed by familiar words was very amusing to me
trinque: I dunno it's accurate to say the guy just grabbed something he found, but it's at the present impossible for me to evaluate how much code is g_l and how much found.
trinque: at any rate, we are all currently using piles of found, called linux distributions
mircea_popescu: i can't evaluate same ever ; after some cursory attempts to help the evaluation i'm resigned to let it evaluate itself.
ben_vulpes shakes feathered stick at sky, demands marvelous widget be brought
trinque wonders why bottle is empty
mircea_popescu: something something battlestarship something something new decentralized something intertwat.
ben_vulpes: four hundred dollars is a pittance to pay for a documented common lisp ui development story
ben_vulpes: even if it's a pile of shit g_l found and tar'd up.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why i was under the impression it was 210 + laptop.
ben_vulpes: i will not write this theorem in cocoa, qt, wx, or any of the ilk.
trinque: asciilifeform: we have all been railing on that fact to no avail
trinque: can't play coy; display the fucking item
ben_vulpes: give up, write everything in cpp and python, right?
trinque: I think he would've been wiser to say "I wish to replace emacs with a CL environment" than "this is a step towards sane computing" or somesuch
trinque: I emphatically do not want anyone telling me how to run gentoo when I've been doing so myself almost as long as it has existed.
trinque: the presence of e.g. network manager in the thing shows the lack of an eye for what constitutes cruft in gentooland
trinque: that said the various CLIM explorers of the lisp system were ~rad~, integrated debugger etc, rad
trinque: can certainly be more sanely framed as "finishing climacs"
mircea_popescu: there's an impedance mismatch between description and labeling though. i expect my wine bottle to say "wine bottle" rather than the more accurate "dubious suspension of tanic acid salts in water"
ben_vulpes: yeah, emerge, network managers, gui wrappers around os stuff is very uninteresting (but i suppose useful in the case of eg fs browser 'dired' and climacsy presentations). what i *want* is a lispy gui toolkit and i do not give one screaming fuck re "omg ancient athena widgets"
trinque: one can make his own gadgets anyway
ben_vulpes: can i slam other pngs in there? probably. great.
ben_vulpes: no, being glib. point is that gadgets can be made to look however.
trinque: asciilifeform: define a benchmark and I'll run right now.
trinque: that's your own programming causing "delays"
trinque: your own code determines when these things happen!
mircea_popescu: trinque run mp hash for 512 bits on a day's worth of logs, report ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform interestingly, the only time i ever encountered such delays before was on ssh sessions.
trinque: mircea_popescu: the hash wouldn't slow anybody down because I'd be hashing in one thread, updating UI with results in another as they pop out
trinque: we staring from a conclusion or are we doing a benchmark
trinque: this makes an argument eh?
trinque: the way you jump around, man.
mircea_popescu: alf's touchy-feely notions of "slow" aren't particularily interesting, but it would be worth noting if it takes 10x or 100x the cycles to deliver the same result.
trinque: there is no example earlier
mircea_popescu: hey, he said benchmark, i proposed a benchmark. lotta branching lotta iterations, some memory allocation. should be plenty obvious.
trinque haxing a viewer for xev output for clim's own window
mircea_popescu: gotta solve this dispute somehow. the correct somehow is to start bolting down parts. first we check this, then we can see if it's a matter of cl implementation is fine, ui is bad.
trinque: then once had we can bog it down by also doing crunching in another thread and dumping output of teh hash to the scroll pane
mircea_popescu: but this discussion would definitely benefit from clear domain definition and numeric measurements, as trinque well points out.
trinque: xev output is fine for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am somewhat unsurprised the immediate reaction is to take the matter outside of the computer.
mircea_popescu: supposedly it'll also need small soul eventually. aanyway.
trinque: I will be happy to continue this discussion as comments in my blog in near future
ben_vulpes: imma sit here mashing refresh on trinque.org
mircea_popescu: in random lulz : apparently at some point in the 80s, dec has 1200 people working on porting x to ultrix/vms
mircea_popescu: www.xfree86.org/pipermail/forum/2003-March/001997.html
mircea_popescu: srsly, 2.5mn dollars is a fraction of what they want ?
mircea_popescu: the idiotic ustard discursive posturing was intolerable even cca 2003. "Persistent problems in XFree86 development have become widely recognised within the X community. I have talked to people throughout the X community in a search for solutions." check out the utter nigger talk.
mircea_popescu: "In 2011, O'Reilly awarded an open source award to Packard, as "the person behind most of the improvements made on the open source desktop in the last ten years at least.""
mircea_popescu: this, ftr, is how x.org was born (of which guy is now lead, and which is as dead as we all recall)
a111: Logged on 2016-02-21 21:51 mircea_popescu: x.org just recently lost their only asset because of inept "non profit" shenanigans.
mircea_popescu: and guess who became a "debian developer" right after.
mircea_popescu: should be studied in school ffs. mike harris of redhat complained to packard that these people weren't sufficiently o'reillyed. gotta color revolution!!1
mircea_popescu: then create a new ukraine for them, which then entirely bankrupt in a decade.
mircea_popescu: but hey, wikipedia says "the successful x.org" so it must be so.
mircea_popescu: rather than port extant drivers to a twice defunct pile of code made by mit i'd rather paint tits on a boar.
mircea_popescu: it is also eerily reminiscent of "political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single"
mircea_popescu: rich murphey ? he didn't get "hired" by intel from redhat and didn't get to work on debian and didn't get invited by oreilly to eat rubber chicken so he doesn't exist as per wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: the "us vs them" thing is very evidently manifest. it also happened to work for them a lot better back in 2000, when they owned the de facto currency.
mircea_popescu: which brings the point full circle : relinquishing ANY degree of control over the currency back to the niggers will result in an exact rehash of the boom/bust cycle of cs development that has ensured 0 useful anything came out of three generations of developers by now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they have very systematically hijacked and buried in the desert things. linux/gcc is just the latest pass.
mircea_popescu: because "intellectuals" have utterly no shame. if their guzzling of piss is not stated in plain terms, they will get together and pretend otherwise.
mircea_popescu: mentally at the age of 14, when they got together in the schoolyard to recount various summertime conquests under the velvety protection of nobody calling anyone out on anything ever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't mean the niggers. i mean the others.
mircea_popescu: taleb will, with all the panache of a dedicated goat fucker, publish items on medium.com
mircea_popescu: it is, literally, more respectable a use of his time to upload homemade goat porn to 4chan
mircea_popescu: they are trained to pursue their intellectual preoccupations at the expense of "everything else", which is fine for as long as it's the fat on their belly, but is not fine once they start chiseling away the spine.
mircea_popescu: until and unless someone comes up and tells them to stop pissing the bed, they will sit in the urine soaked mess while pretending entirely satisfactorily to their own lights that "it's just one of those things", and supposedly never realising the name for the situatio nis "wallowing in piss"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why would he have to fuck with apache config ?
mircea_popescu: dude who's talking of proper box. he can set up a fucking livejournal for all anyone cares. a myspace profile
mircea_popescu: no dude, it's not a discussion of technology omfg. it's a discussion of politics.
mircea_popescu: "but what if he was at leningrad siege, he fired tired old mauser!"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 18:25 mircea_popescu: this apple, nsa, whatever, nobody gives a shit, but this "apple" is the empire's last hope, half-Alphabet-half-AAPL-half-contractors whatever it is.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the xfree86 debacle is VERY fucking illustrative of how the "thinking" idiot acts. they "disbanded" once the monkey chorus got loud enough, so they don't have to deal with the idiots any longer. whoopdedoo, nice going.
mircea_popescu: in the process, creating the perverse incentive structure for the monkey wail. i really can't fucking stand ustards already.
mircea_popescu: and the more intelligent/technically skilled the worse it gets.
mircea_popescu: constantly with this "wisdom" of fligh response, nothing's worth drying for, there's always going to be a virgin forest somewhere to run to. run to and... what ?
mircea_popescu: and supposedly i should feel bad for them, right ? because look how the barbarians came and burned down all these nice guy's hard work. hurr.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not especially difficult to resit at all, IF and ONLY IF one understands that the niggers aren't human.
mircea_popescu: for as long as one entertains even faint delusions that who knows, packard is maybe a person too, that "coreboot" retarded, what's her name, is maybe human like we are, that gavin or hearn have mothers and fathers and children and smell roses rather than you know, dwelling in rats nests like the rats they are and come out of ootheca like any other kitchen cockroach - for as long as that delusion is even vaguely present it's n
mircea_popescu: and yes it's trivial to smell the "marketing contributes to revenue - everyone else to costs" folk a mile away. but you have to WANT TO.
ben_vulpes: pgAdmin 4 is a feature rich open source PostgreSQL client. It has support for almost every feature in PostgreSQL. The only downside is that the cross-plattform UI really doesn’t live up to the expectations of a native Mac app.Postico on the other hand, is a very modern Mac app. It’s made by the same people that maintain Postgres.app, and we think you’ll like it!
ben_vulpes: yes i want fewer features and prettier widgets that fit in with my os aesthetic
mircea_popescu:
http://labs.openviewpartners.com/linkedin-pricing-strategy/#.WHAoLFJOm-I << in random lulz. the following elements are present : "experts" with nary a clue, expertise predicated entirely on context in a purely substance-free lacanian manner ; "controversy" in the sense of, wholly worthless item lost some of the arbitrary "value" it never had, what could be the possible "explanations" that nevertheless avoid stating the obviou