mircea_popescu: so looking at the shitcoins, "ethereum" switched with "ripple" YoY. hurr durr.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i wonder if anyone remembers early 2015, "billion dollar market cap" ripple, millions "traded" a day and other flights of fancy.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-06 22:03 mircea_popescu: in other news i finally replaced a rather loud psu. life's good!
a111: Logged on 2016-02-26 03:53 mircea_popescu: yeah well. meanwhile at reality ranch, all contact sports have this phenomena, where people age out of it. it's natural. but they don't WANT out of it, because they fucking liked it. so they become radio commentators, referees, whatever they can find.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-06 23:23 mircea_popescu: speaking of sexual offal, why is it that all the marginal women ~nobody'd give the time of day imagine they "speak for all of us", ie, somehow represent femaleness an' womanhood ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: I threw those in; I have to fix the tape between new deedbot and old (actual deed-related) code
mircea_popescu: when you publish a report with the wrong month's title ';/
trinque: it's such an obvious strategy if you suck that looking for the "original" is a bit silly
mircea_popescu: "Hi team at Trilema How are you? I came across your excellent gaming site:
http://trilema.com " << one of the pleasures of keeping a personal blog is that well... what is it ?
☟︎ phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475379 << best api would be kako log format "<whatever incremental id your message has>;<unix timestamp>;<nick>;<message>" and "<id>;<timestamp>;*;<nick> <message>" for /me messages, with a parametrized endpoint, that takes since_time and since_id that return all messages since timestamp or all messages since id, empty document when there are none, and 400 if there's more messages then you're willing to send
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 02:08 mod6: phf: something that looks like this ^^ ok or helpful?
phf: mod6: if you want i can spec it out for you, but that's the direction i want to take my some miniserver, that i would put on top of my znc logs
phf: i'm surprised the bot is still operational, but i guess that's how it goes
phf: freenode being a bumpy place
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475432 << i've used it, and the wukix people are responsive to feature requests. i think the source is a fork of one of kyoto common lisp derivatives, probably akcl. fwiw it's the same lineage as gcl and ecl, so ascii's "why not compile ecl" is entirely reasonable
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 04:15 ben_vulpes: phf, asciilifeform: any experience with "mocl"?
phf: they did a lot of work to ensure that things just work, so you put a couple of annotations in your lisp and can call those lisp functions from either android or ios. the two limitations is that you don't get an easy way to call from lisp back into native (at least that was the case when i tried it). the idea is that you write all your logic in lisp and use native exclusively as view. and second limitation is that built executable lacks compiler, s
mod6: phf: ok thanks, i'll work on that.
BingoBoingo: Correction: Hewlett Packard Enterprise (TM)(R)
pete_dushenski: mod6: any timeline on the 99994k release ? looking forward to testing trb with import/export, etc.
pete_dushenski: in other news, "More than two-thirds of the Humvees the US supplied to Iraq to fight terrorists have ended up in the hands of Islamic State militants" which is like saying that 2/3 of chip foundries given to the chinese to fight inflation and unions are now being used for bitcoin terrorism. heh.
mircea_popescu: dude... how can anglotards be this dumb, seriously now.
mircea_popescu: "woman in vietnam sells airline - check out the bikinis". schmucks.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: "The old man's daugther prayed God" << dunno if intentional spelling or not
pete_dushenski: anyone else, i'd be reaming their incompetency, but mp has own dictionary that supersedes oxford, etc.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: any timeline on the 99994k release ? looking forward to testing trb with import/export, etc. << not at the moment.
mod6: and am not positive on import/export making it in yet -- needs further review testing
mod6: if there is a 99994, soonish, it'll just contain any fixes required for this openssl issue.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 03:42 mod6: if there is a 99994, soonish, it'll just contain any fixes required for this openssl issue.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 18:44 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 the openssl people hosed your stator script by moving their turdball without a redirect. can we plz stop linking to derps in trb autoloaders ?
mod6: yeah, that thing you told me about alf. yesterday?
pete_dushenski: unrelatedly, can anyone recommend a 15min UPS for a workstation ? the power in this building/town is going to the fucking pits, even if it is really goddam cheap.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: anyone used cyberpower ? or is it apc all day everyday
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: May I instead suggest Honda EU3000iS
☟︎ BingoBoingo: No, I mean how much fuel to make the powah?
BingoBoingo: That affects runtime in case all the oilsand burns in a wildfire
BingoBoingo: Anyways diesel is better generators, but there aren't non-chicom small diesel inverter generator makers.
pete_dushenski: less heat loss, transmission loss, obvious practical issues, etc.
BingoBoingo: Or that honda with its ~14 liter tank can also hit 21 hours, but with less plugged in.
BingoBoingo: Exact runtime/fuel consumption can be readily calculated on the Honda
BingoBoingo: seriously. Also man portable for quality man.
trinque: They have always claimed that we Black cannot run an organization like AFRINIC (too complex for our small bird brain...) ... I have leaved [sic] through that during my 10 years as CEO both in Africa and globally. But the reality is that our own people let this kind of thing perpetuate. << muh sides
jurov: pete_dushenski: i don't believe these can sustain anywhere like 15min at 400W
jurov: but a desktop usually won't eat 400W either, or are you mining? have 24" CRT?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 04:17 pete_dushenski: unrelatedly, can anyone recommend a 15min UPS for a workstation ? the power in this building/town is going to the fucking pits, even if it is really goddam cheap.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski if you own rather than rent, buying a large unit is a good home improvement move. for one thing, all electronics benefit from power filtering etc, tv sets, whatever has chips in it. for another thing, redundant power is great and brownouts a thing everywhere. not the worst 5-10k you ever spent, can just sit in the basement and make your day for a week each decade or w/e.
mircea_popescu: oh look at that, south african race relations are a paragon for the entire world :D
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 04:28 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: May I instead suggest Honda EU3000iS
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform normally it's a unit consisting of generator, inverter, batteries.
mircea_popescu: so yes, it filters power throughout ; it supplants short timed blackouts electronically ; and longer course ones while the fuel lasts.
mircea_popescu: all this, incidentally, was pioneered by filming crews.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, it's a profession, he gets it properly instaslled.
mircea_popescu: yeah the large lights were very vulnerable, and expensive as fuck.
mircea_popescu: but in any case : serenity starts with autonomy ; and autonomy has some very practical underpinnings.
mircea_popescu: for instance, romanians in the 90s moved off the "central heating" paradigm on to individual gas units.
mircea_popescu: that they rely on a machinery in their own hands with a commodity input
mircea_popescu: rather than rely on machinery in state owned building.
mircea_popescu: also, romania has plenty of gas ; was running out of coal at the time.
mircea_popescu: also ro-ru gas relations and energetics altogether have always been cordial.
mircea_popescu: the ru know that ro have plenty of their own ; also tech leader. no motivation to pester them whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: nothing's nicer in this world than a russian with his balls in vice.
mircea_popescu: i suppose "power standards for tmsr home" is yet another item we should eventually write up huh.
mircea_popescu: romania does have a happy tradition of ending up caught in conflicts between various idiots, i'd be much surprised if this changed.
jurov: mircea_popescu: wtf is with mpex? it's like third time new order receives a signed receipt from mpex, and then completely vanishes
jurov: till someone pesters you
jurov: i'm not interested to keep coinbr running on such "fundament"
mod6: So tb0t has a test plan, and is entering the final testing phase. Will keep ya posted.
mod6: As soon as we get through the testing, will deploy here and hopefully can turn attention to trb stuffs.
mod6: yeah, it should work -- it won't be perfect, but it should at least get us started.
jurov: asciilifeform: how do you know it's him?
jurov: i posted the phuctor urls to his blog, and it's rather popular
mircea_popescu: this entire "web numbers map to people" theory is just about as ridiculous as the whole "bitcoin addresses map to people" theory.
mircea_popescu: the notion one can distinguish a supervised bot from a slightly less supervised bot is wishful thinking ; no matter the effort expended.
mircea_popescu: there's big money in this, of course, and has for decades. "advertising industry" "fraud detection". it never worked.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 00:56 mircea_popescu: "Hi team at Trilema How are you? I came across your excellent gaming site:
http://trilema.com " << one of the pleasures of keeping a personal blog is that well... what is it ?
mircea_popescu: what appears to you as sluggish is simply thing doing sluggish for someone else meanwhile.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 01:02 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475379 << best api would be kako log format "<whatever incremental id your message has>;<unix timestamp>;<nick>;<message>" and "<id>;<timestamp>;*;<nick> <message>" for /me messages, with a parametrized endpoint, that takes since_time and since_id that return all messages since timestamp or all messages since id, empty document when there are none, and 400 if there's more messages the
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's just how the bot is written to work.
mircea_popescu: because one size fits all ; and easier to have it work this way universally.
mod6: phf: you sent that to me yesterday right?
mod6: the biggest pain about that format is the incremental id.
mod6: but the rest I can do, and I won't be logging messages as this thing will drop pms.
mod6: anyway, thanks again for pointing me to that
mod6: i meant phf, but you too Mr. P. :]
phf: maybe the id can be optional, but fwiw it doesn't need to match what the btcbase has. as long as it's unique and incremental on your system. the main usecase is that if the bot drops, for the duration of reconnect logger wants to know what happened on channel. so can do since_time=<+-10 minutes around drop time> and then fuzzy shuffle messages in
phf: but then i was thinking that i can periodically poll all the sources since_id=<last id for the source> and check things for consistency, etc.
mircea_popescu: mod6 he has a point you know, simply setting an index as "autoincrement" in your sql should supply this.
deedbot: fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: mircea_popescu: yah, it makes some sense.
mod6: im proud to say no sql is used :]
mod6: anyway, i can make it happen. just gotta ensure its fast, don't want any io to slow stuff down.
mod6: ya. flat file for everything
mod6: sure, that'd be something too
mod6: i'll work something out for it. i see how it can be handy.
mod6: well, that's probably incremental, just not sequenced
shinohai asked tb0t for a cup of tea, only got hot water.
mod6: worked through the test plan after 2 small fixes, seems to be working as designed.
mod6: gotta add one last part before we can really use it in here; get it a pgp key, register it with deedbot, then build in functions to selfvoice
mod6: shouldn't be too bad
shinohai: God these shitty crowdsale?ICO coins are like viruses. They keep mutating.
trinque: jesus christ, the "umm"s coming out of this guy
trinque: take a breath and think about what's coming out your mouth hole
☟︎ deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: umm's and ahhs\'s seem to be common mannerisms amongst basement-dwelling scammers.
trinque: skipped ahead, heard tripe on prediction markets being "just an advanced form of democracy"
trinque: what, everyone has the same amount of capital?
trinque: where people made predictions and were paid for them if they were correct
trinque: and losers lost capital which diminished their ability to take part
gabriel_laddel: The lesswrong people I've run into out the bay area all tacked on idiocies like "if someone had a really good betting run, then you would pay them to make decisions for you regarding your own life"
☟︎ trinque: soon as someone does something that works some other idiot comes along and wants to make a religion and government out of it
trinque: gabriel_laddel: whole thing is fucked as soon as the cultural notions of born slaves enters the process
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: have you sailed across the river to montevideo yet?
trinque: oh, we will find our stalin and then follow him
trinque: how bout that, I'm lispfamous
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: one step at a time. I cut out all the "backends" and got the LoC count to 100,803 lines of CL.
shinohai: Hey that Gsharp thing looks pretty nifty.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 17:50 asciilifeform: specifically to 'we do not want to be bitcoin, bitcoin users will be crushed by usg'
mircea_popescu: ima buy him for making salami eventually. "who crushes who, bitch ?"
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I use the CLX native backend and will be moving to framebuffer when it makes economic sense.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 14:09 asciilifeform: fella wasn't quite certain what he wanted, and soon after the publication, devil approached him with bargain.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 18:14 trinque: take a breath and think about what's coming out your mouth hole
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: it just LOOKS like that. All of those widgets are just handle-repaint defmethods.
mircea_popescu: AS FUCKING IF there exists the webtard that can emulate my rhetoric ability.
mircea_popescu: buncha fuctards, can't speak in public, opine as to consummate public speaker's performance ; never as much as owned a suit of clothes, comment the suits of dude that's been wearing one since highschool. on it goes.
mircea_popescu: uh i don't recall where specifically. tardstalk prolly. or reddit/twitter/whatever.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 18:18 asciilifeform: some derp named hanson was pushing a crackpottery called 'futarchy', where you have a bitbet-like item that is actually plugged into a robotic monarch that issues edicts
mircea_popescu: nor for that matter fucking fractals and/or positibe feedback
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 18:21 gabriel_laddel: The lesswrong people I've run into out the bay area all tacked on idiocies like "if someone had a really good betting run, then you would pay them to make decisions for you regarding your own life"
mircea_popescu: for as long as that article stands "less wrong" seriously can't exist intellectually.
mircea_popescu: that's a new one, i didn't know any other cause is even possibru. wha happened ?
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: rather low ever since i taught him how to write and he... failed to engage.
mircea_popescu: rather too like the inept romanian wanna-bes for my taste.
mircea_popescu: why ? twerp is writing fiction "didactically" and "challenges" the world.
mircea_popescu: da fuck, how dares he not humbly suck cock when the world condescends to slap him silly.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: wait what does his new thing have to do with thiel?
mircea_popescu: how does one sit atop the pile of chicks and still derp ineptly ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: is the "nightlife" in montevideo the ~same as BA?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sanity is homeostasis. what is this "functioning liver by itself" ?
mircea_popescu: no such thing ; the dead mechanism either rots and stinks ; or else exactly immitates life - so much so as to be actually alive ; and if actually alive - it heals.
mircea_popescu: much like the "bitcoin corrupts" argument - harem heals. if you actually get one, you can't be "yourself".
mircea_popescu: if it isn't... hm. you saying basically they only visit with performance gas mask on ?
mircea_popescu: this is precisely how you end up with whores in the matress.
mircea_popescu: you ever read bitter moon, say ? or i guess saw the movie, which was terrible, but i suppose still carries ?
mircea_popescu: ok, let's try a general statement. the trite rules of common sensical behaviour exist principally not because they're good or useful or productive ; but because they are banal, and in being banal are safe.
mircea_popescu: he who steps outside of their braindead protection will encounter great power ; which, without control, will ruin their life ; in such catastrophically major ways as to defy plain description.
mircea_popescu: harem heals ; and what that means if it's dead rather than alive ... god only help you.
mircea_popescu: what, his mother handles his harematic affairs, as per abdul hamid ?
trinque: says he only dates women dating other men
trinque: heh yeah, it can go that way too
mircea_popescu: "This is a post about applied luminosity in action: how I hacked myself to become polyamorous over (admittedly weak) natural monogamous inclinations. "
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand, a major part of the appeal of prostitutes for many people is that they already have a pimp. contrary to what polite society likes to believe, men don't generally want THAT much to do with women.
mircea_popescu: i've known plenty of folk who'd only do say married womenz. "she's married already".
mircea_popescu: i've known even more folk who wouldn't deflower a girl, myself included. etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not everyone that gets invited to be taken for a ride is invited to stay.
trinque: and something that probably kicks on in her when there's wealth.
trinque: asciilifeform: and we both live in poorasfuckistan
mircea_popescu: ah there is that. harem reproduces, just like "monogamous fambly".
trinque: asciilifeform: the desire to increase the number of women
mircea_popescu: children cost even less ; yet it's a matter of perception.
mircea_popescu: here's a good idea : singular, anecdote ; plural, anecdata.
mircea_popescu: anecdata being what socially passes for "scientific studies" - enough badly curated data to lend apparent support to whatever fashionable political claim.
mircea_popescu: yay, me reading trinque 's link was not entirely wasted.
trinque: also wouldn't surprise me that anyone in amerika with a functioning nervous system has a strong instinct of "this place is done for" going off
trinque: why would a woman's nesting behaviors go off under such circumstances
mircea_popescu: "I have lived with them for seven months now and never once have I seen them get in a fight (I know there is way more to being a couple than not fighting but I’m trying to think of objective numerical evidence I can report here beyond “if you know them, you know what I mean”)." << it's a miserable fucking criteria wtf.
mircea_popescu: if your idea of "a fight" is one screaming his head off and the other begging forgiveness on knees and kowtows, then "no fights" is a completely dead relatopnship where no instruction is taking place ;
mircea_popescu: if your idea of a fight is for the submissive to blather off, then o my fucking god what shambling abomnation is this!
mircea_popescu: "They both go way out of their way to make the other happy, and although part of this is just that they’re both very nice people who go out of their way to make everybody happy, I think there’s got to be some love involved there too. They are engaged, working on the “getting married” thing, and have every intention of having lots of children and staying together for at least one lifetime." << california can't grow eno
mircea_popescu: "I once felt a small pang of jealousy when one of my girlfriends was having a very public display of affection with a non-Mike person I didn’t know quite so well. But I get upset with/jealous of public displays of affection in general, even among people I don’t know, and it’s very hard for me to disentangle this feeling from jealousy and it could have just been my imagination." << or otherwise, could start by defining "
mircea_popescu: "one of the public whores (free as in beer) that i'm sometimes pumping was working some chump and this bothered me maybe" ?
mircea_popescu: "Empirically the most ‘attractive’ man in our community including for purposes of casual sex is Mike Blume, who (I’ve asked a woman or two) achieves this by being extremely polite, reliable, and generating a feeling of being very safe to be around or date (contrary to a number of people who’d allege that this is beta-male behavior who I’m beginning to suspect are just sheerly empirically wrong)." << ahahaha win. che
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Mike Blume, gadabout and preterist, has grown bolder and bolder against Apostolic holiness traditions which he calls legalism. He has denied several of our ..." apparently the other priest dudes don't think so much of him.
mircea_popescu: tucker max was a "finance expert" with scott lockinesque notions on bitcoin, last i looked,
mircea_popescu: aww, you missed such a nice pile of anecdotes. so this guy, on the basis of a web forum populated by anglo dorks, and with the help of a "strategist" whose name escapes me atm but whose badly shaped cranium i still recall, were going to "revolutionize" and shit.
mircea_popescu: it was a very entertaining few years, i definitely recommend the study of "fratire" to the entomologist.
mircea_popescu: "Everything went according to plan: I can now comfortably describe myself and the primary relationship I have with MBlume as poly. <bragging>Since moving back to the Bay Area I've been out with four other people too, one of whom he's also seeing; I've been in my primary's presence while he kissed one girl, and when he asked another for her phone number; I've gossiped with a secondary about other persons of romantic interest
mircea_popescu: and accepted his offer to hint to a guy I like that this is the case; I hit on someone at a party right in front of my primary. I haven't suffered a hiccup of drama or a twinge of jealousy to speak of and all evidence (including verbal confirmation) indicates that I've been managing my primary's feelings satisfactorily too.</bragging> Does this sort of thing appeal to you? Cross your fingers and hope your brain works enoug
mircea_popescu: how do they manage to stay mentally 12 ?! seriously now.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how do they manage to stay mentally 12 ?! seriously now. << By continuing to surround themselve exclusively with sick people.
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: untangled the only gnarly bit of the masamune replication and promptly cooked my computer's hard drive
gabriel_laddel: Generate a RescueCD that rebuilds masamune using all the sources on disk
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I don't know / use rsync. What should I have done?
trinque: cronjob to rsync your whole dev machine elsewhere regularly
trinque: or at least the code you want
gabriel_laddel: you have no idea how much of a complete disaster my life is...
☟︎ trinque: start habits that make it otherwise!
gabriel_laddel: O? I have an event in an hour. Lemme catch up on logs...
gabriel_laddel: No laptop, currently on a public box so can't get any work done.
gabriel_laddel: cute girl with a "recreational mathematics" shirt on right next to me. it's not so bad.
gribble: Current Blocks: {"blockcount":415255} | Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":199312067531.243} | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 15:25 asciilifeform: how do you figure
gabriel_laddel: Turns out is her bf's shirt and she does molecular bio so perhaps ascii was right...
trinque: maybe he's into being cuckooed!
trinque: I hear it's a progressive place, stanford
BingoBoingo: Nah just as encancered. Just differently cancered.
BingoBoingo: Tell her to call her boyfriend so he can watch her suck yo dick.
trinque: it's an opportunity for him to challenge the negative biases within himself and become a more open person
BingoBoingo: Good. Happy, Joyous, and well... not as free as I like but maybe I'll kick the nicotine problem in the not too distant future.
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: BingoBoingo: I'm working on kicking cigs too
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I'm making runs at just pulling the bandaid off and learning a lot about physiological processes nicotine involves itself in that they don't really teach the kids about in school. For example: Nicotine causes causes stored sugahs to be released into the blood stream which means a substantial portion of the pain of acute nicotine withdrawal is related to the Beetus.
shinohai: Applicable tho .... I have unsuccessfully tried quitting several times.
trinque: I've quit before and got lazy, picked it back up
shinohai: Don't want to become a vapefag though
shinohai: Nope, the burn and taste is part of the reason I like it.
shinohai: Fake smoke machine just doesn't do it.
shinohai: Actually vaping feels more like gasenwagening .. just add a can of zyklon B
BingoBoingo: Yeah vapefag setups tryhard the temperature too much which is unpleasant and generates srs formaldahyde
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: filter on real cigarettes provides opportunity for smoke to cool pleasantly. They didn't become the standard for health reasons...
shinohai: "possibly arbuscular mycorrhizal organisms" <<<lolz
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways the people who sucessfully substitute vapes for cigs tend to run at 400-500 degrees which cooks many of the glycols theys use to maintain nicotine suspension into preservatives. If preserving lungs I'd rather do it with good old fashioned creosote.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 19:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who wrote the above ?
mircea_popescu: fucking "my little pony" franchise reference. unicorn-pegasus wtf is wrong with esltards already.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-20 03:35 mircea_popescu: "Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment that assumes that an otherwise benevolent future artificial intelligence (AI) would torture the simulated selves of the people who did not help bring about the AI's existence. [...] The concept was proposed in 2010 by contributor Roko in a discussion on LessWrong. Yudkowsky deleted the posts regarding it and banned further discussion of Roko's basilisk on LessWrong af
mircea_popescu: at least it could be snake bodied and feathered and also have many hands and could die on the cross.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for all the psycho-pomp, the whole thing reads to me rather infantile altogether. dumbass needed to crash, ended up crashing at apartment of derpy local chav and his whorish mahalagioaica.
mircea_popescu: yes yes but ... strategic plan 1 year (2 installments) out of date ; "in review" idem
mircea_popescu: old time bitcoin scammer ; kicked out around the time of the great mp scammer purge of 2013
mircea_popescu: i doubt it, seeing how they actually credit him for ripple.
mircea_popescu: anyway : the numbers don't match ; total assets in 2014 ~2mn.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the list as publishes sums to a suspiciously round 6,008,809. the assets claimed are ~30% that.
mircea_popescu: bullshit through and through, i have no idea how they even summon the gall to publish this unauditable nonsense.
mircea_popescu: vessenes & merck level "bitcoin foundation" sort of fraud.
mircea_popescu: i have the "independent accountant review" right here.
mircea_popescu: it was prepared by some obscure los gatos ca house (snow, bittleston &co) and is every bit as ridiculous as the rest.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in summary : 885k in bank ; 14k in something called "cyro currency" as an "investment", 50k in prepaid expenses and 307k receivables. not clear whom from, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: 10k worth of furniture and 6k worth of "computer equipment"
mircea_popescu: oh and 8.6k worth of wells fargo credit card debt. lollercopter.
mircea_popescu: we now have a precise sum of yudkowsky's total interest in this venture.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, "salaries" 258k ; payroll tax and employee benefits 22k.
mircea_popescu: at 31 dec 2014 realized loss from ripples an' bitcoins of 138.5k ; unrealized loss of 17.3k
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, they employ one catamite. the lack of payroll tax is a dead giveaway.
mircea_popescu: "all frustrated at the heads using him for a sockpuppet, runs off with corp cc, is then forced to give it back"
mircea_popescu: i spent a lot of my life going through exactly this sort of bs.
mircea_popescu: atm looks a lot more like someone in tax shelters is using this to hide from a few mn worth of tax liability ; than thiel or anyone else wanting to give yudks as much as a half smoked marlboro.
mircea_popescu: you ever seen "the strawberry blonde" ? 1930s film with cagney, de havilland and a still starlet rita hayworth.
mircea_popescu: not a bad film ; cagney's a dope, friend of his offers him a position in management for a company where all he does is read the nespapers.
mircea_popescu: eventually govt deal obtained through tammany hall collapses an' he goes to jail.
mircea_popescu: except hey, for as long as thiel's connected, who's gonna rustle his clientelle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here mule claims to have received donations that never showed up. win-win as they say.
mircea_popescu: the "assets match ~30% of theoretical income" is a major flag ; the periodic name changes a slightly less major flag.
mircea_popescu: there's more. in any case - let it be said faux charities are today as were a century ago the principal tax fraud mechanism.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a major factor in the "i can't explain why the fuck this guy went all usgtronic".
mircea_popescu: well... odds are he's a principal in a charity somewhere that cooked the books. "seemed the right thing to do" "i just took people's word" "i just wanted to" etc.
BingoBoingo: "'Likely next French President Marine Le Pen (WOT:nonperson) has gone on the record stating that she would like a ban on Bitcoin. Remember kids that National Socialism is still socialism with all its kleptographic tendencies intact."
BingoBoingo: and if Trump-Clinton can do it so can Le Pen
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform laughably, idiot imagines bitcoin as part of "online payment" and opposes it because "it hinders individual property on money".
mircea_popescu: it is wholly unreasonable to discuss things you don't understand ; it is disqualifying to not understand certain things.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They are hard up. Their radio advertising has definitely fallen off these past few weeks. Likely can't afford it.
shinohai: Looks like Bruce Fenton is resigning as director of teh Phoundation.
BingoBoingo: Why am I learning about that in this channel and not a submission?
shinohai: " BUT could stay same role w an assist, in co-ED role, advisor, rebrand or ^ funding" <<< meaning "Imma quit if you don't give me monies"
BingoBoingo: Not because it is important now, but for the later lolz when the dead try to do something else
BingoBoingo: ty, bringing it into concordance with existing qntra
BingoBoingo: Yeah. A socialist funding organization. Been using that on qntra for the Vessenes' scam since... forever?
shinohai: Wow even other SEALS hate him.
BingoBoingo: Come on this is politics, you can't believe anything being said by anybody involved other than blowing stuff up is fun.
shinohai: Hey BingoBoingo ... wasn't Boelens a former associate/employee of TF ?
trinque: site doesn't work with the google search API
trinque: $google qntra.net schweich
shinohai: ;;google site:qntra.net schweich
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
trinque: I would rather search the aggregated browsing history of my WoT than google
shinohai: I switched search to ddg on my bot, but I think I broke it some time back.
trinque: I used that for search a while back, ought to try it again
BingoBoingo: shinohai: He's some dutch kid kind of on the margins of everything
shinohai: I only spoke with him a few times, but he seemed ok. Twas reading on tardstalk where someone doxed him over a 5 BTC loan or something.