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asciilifeform: not only in the sense of taxation proper, but tacit permission of wage suppression cartels, etc. - the whole ensemble
nubbins`: wage suppression cartels!
asciilifeform: nubbins`: see log
asciilifeform: i'll also add that u.s. states are pretty good at milking the aphids - sales taxes of 5-10%
nubbins`: sales tax here is 13%
nubbins`: 14% Jan 1 2016
asciilifeform: leave no aphid behind!
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: used to be 12+7
nubbins`: which worked out, in practice, to ~20%
asciilifeform: 12+7 ?
asciilifeform: how's that work
asciilifeform: national and local ?
nubbins`: 12% provincial tax, 7% federal
asciilifeform: ah
nubbins`: now it's a "harmonized"
nubbins`: some provinces have no provincial sales tax
nubbins`: actually, just one, alberta
asciilifeform: at any rate, ~THE~ american tax is: inflation. and it mainly affects folks with respectable, but firmly-fixed incomes
nubbins`: just american? :P
asciilifeform: whose net worth, if they happen to have one with a positive sign bit, consists of an unspent paycheque or three
asciilifeform: in usd.
nubbins`: but that describes almost every pensioner in north america :D
asciilifeform: for non-u.s. folk: the most explosively astonishing phun phakt re: american taxation, is that an extortionate tax (mechanically, lack of 'tax credit', but same thing) is applied to folks who refuse to do the mortgage thing
asciilifeform: (i.e. payments on mortgage are tax-deductible)
nubbins`: all payments or just the interest portion?
asciilifeform: interest, iirc
gernika: I will be negotiating the CPI (joke that it is) into my next contract.
nubbins`: i bet you have to pay capital gains tax when you sell it too
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Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-07-2015#1211248 << why'd you take it at night, dummy ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:41:27; trinque: I took an adderall xr once and had an utterly terrible night, took notes on my entire calculus book
gernika: Never understood the mortgage interest tax credit. Seems like houses will just ... cost more.
nubbins`: houses will cost more, in general, until they don't.
nubbins`: interesting tidbit, i live in downtown st. john's, which happens to mostly consist of wooden row houses
nubbins`: went to renew my insurance
nubbins`: underwriter dropped my whole neighbourhood and we had to find a new one :0
gernika: why?
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-07-2015#1211744 << cf http://www.morfix.co.il/%D7%AA%D7%96%D7%9B%D7%94%20%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA and https://translate.google.com/#iw/en/%D7%A2%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%AA ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 05:38:59; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell Adlai your transliteration broke my (online) translation skillz !
assbot: מילון מורפיקס Morfix Dictionary | תזכה למצוות באנגלית ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDzNsI )
assbot: Google Translate ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDzP3S )
nubbins`: gernika: because it's a tinderbox?
nubbins`: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/Cnsphoto0501010.jpg/467px-Cnsphoto0501010.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDA7Yz )
nubbins`: ^ st. john's, 1892
nubbins`: all those stone pillars you see are chimneys from houses that burned down
decimation: http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/21/obama-nominee-for-top-army-post-we-should-arm-military-recruiters/ "“You have a vast cadre of people in the military — doctors, lawyers, intelligence specialists, cryptologists, mechanics — whose jobs are important because they support combat troops, but it is not their job to point weapons at people and kill them,”
assbot: Gen. Mark Milley: We Should Arm Military Recruiters | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDAhz6 )
decimation: "retired Navy Capt. Charles Stimson told Stars and Stripes. “I know JAGs (military lawyers), nurses, typists, legal clerks in the military who have never fired a weapon in their lives.”"
gernika: ah ok - close proximity + wood got it
nubbins`: so even though the fire station is so close to my house that i can hear the calls come in
nubbins`: it's almost impossible to get insurance
decimation: asciilifeform: usg should drop all income and gains taxes and only tax consumption
nubbins`: any home owners in here wanna share their annual insurance premium, as a percentage of the value of their home? ☟︎
decimation: on the theory that those with actual wealth should only volunteer to pay tax
decimation: nubbins`: mine runs about 0.5%
nubbins`: ah
nubbins`: mine, just over 0.6
decimation: you are in canada eh?
nubbins`: yep
decimation: maybe find an independent insurance agent
nubbins`: got one 8)
decimation: I had good luck with one here in the us
nubbins`: none of the majors would even give me a quote
decimation: why do they think you are so risky?
decimation: poor construction?
nubbins`: <+gernika> ah ok - close proximity + wood got it
decimation: plenty of homes are made of wood in close proximity
decimation: there must be another factor
nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/qk6mi7K.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDCVNb )
nubbins`: that close proximity? :P
nubbins`: most of the houses are 80-100 years old too
nubbins`: plenty of hidden roofs, double walls, etc
nubbins`: not at all unusual to chop a roof hole in a structure fire and find another completely rotting roof underneath
nubbins`: i had my shingles redone 3 years ago and they found FOUR LAYERS of shingles underneath the top one. The supporting wood was dust
decimation: I donno, seems pretty much like most older city blocks
nubbins`: pulling 2x4s in half with bare hands, etc
decimation: heh
nubbins`: generally no firewalls between houses either
nubbins`: not that a firewall would prevent the flames from setting your roof on fire.
decimation: that is probably a big reason I would think
decimation: my understanding is that modern 'multi-family' housing typically includes 'fire clips' that ensure that a particular burning building collapses on itself
decimation: on the theory that it's better for the others
asciilifeform: like the (Official Truth version of) wtc, l0l
nubbins`: here's a government report from 2006
nubbins`: One gentleman from downtown St. John’s wrote to the Consumer Advocate:
nubbins`: “In November 2004 the house insurance dramatically escalated from $552.00 to $1,315.60. The municipal appraisal was constant. The insurance brokers advised me that it was almost impossible to obtain insurance for a downtown, partially attached house. They advised that the new rate was the best they could obtain. I personally telephoned two other insurance companies in St. John’s. In each call I was immediately asked the location of the
nubbins`: residence.
nubbins`: Upon responding I was promptly told that the company would not even entertain my request due to location. I therefore was forced to accept the $763 increase.”
decimation: asciilifeform: I saw the clips with my own eyes, made of shit metal that melts at low temps
decimation: asciilifeform: oh lordy don't tell me you're a 'truther'?
nubbins`: "Another couple from St. John’s advised the Consumer Advocate that, despite numerous attempts, they had not been able to obtain insurance at any cost for the past four and a half years on their attached King’s Bridge Road property."
nubbins`: imagine
nubbins`: not able to purchase fire insurance
nubbins`: at ANY COST
nubbins`: "IBAN confirmed that homeowners in the St. John’s downtown area have experienced difficulty in finding insurance coverage in the past. The reasons for this difficulty are the high concentrations of wood frame structures with varying type of occupancy and differing physical conditions."
nubbins`: translation: too many slums and boarding houses
nubbins`: wow, says here installing a woodstove would double my premium
nubbins`: anyway
nubbins`: i came up here 40 minutes ago to roll a jazz cig
nubbins`: back on track
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212374 <<< colourful place ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 00:24:37; nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/qk6mi7K.jpg
nubbins`: cazalla people tend to bump up the saturation in photos but it really does look like that
nubbins`: my house is just past the green spire in top left of frame
nubbins`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cTtjBXzyB8
assbot: Hot Chip — Colours - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDDJty )
cazalla: hard to imagine everyone agreed to it, was forced?
nubbins`: haha
nubbins`: in 1982 the pope came here and the gov gave everybody $$ to paint their houses
felipelalli: deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uHSZ6j5j
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDFuip )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
nubbins`: n/m
nubbins`: Shane O’Dea, an expert on architectural heritage and historic preservation, said the idea of fancy window and door trim, and brightly-painted houses was born in 1977. In fact, the idea can be traced to one man, David Webber, the foundation’s executive director. In that year, the foundation took on a demonstration project by painting a sample block in bright colours, from Willicott’s Lane to Victoria Street, on both sides of the street.
nubbins`: ^ before this happened, most houses were painted with leftover marine paint from boats
nubbins`: and the city was drab as fuck
nubbins`: now it's just a thing people do. i have a friend who painted his house neon green ☟︎
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cazalla: too exotic for my likings but i can see how it would appeal to creative types
nubbins`: yellow 123 is getting pretty popular these days
cazalla: our master bedroom is pink (forget the name of the colour) and that is about enough for me heh
nubbins`: sorry, i'm just using pantone numbers
nubbins`: some of them are burned into my brain
cazalla: yellow123 looks a nice yellow
nubbins`: #fdc82f for you hex colour types
nubbins`: yep
nubbins`: yellow 123 is like the blue 072 of yellows.
cazalla: ill write that yellow down for when i paint son's room
cazalla: is that the blue facebook colour?
nubbins`: could be
nubbins`: blue 072 is one of the 14 pantone base colours
nubbins`: with which all others (incl. yellow 123) can be mixed
nubbins`: here's a diagram some may find interesting
nubbins`: https://www.pantone.com/images/pages/20459/cie.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDGums )
nubbins`: the large coloured shape is the colour space of a standard human eye
nubbins`: the area inside the yellow triangle can be reproduced via sRGB (i.e. on your computer screen)
nubbins`: the area inside the pink blob can be reproduced via CMYK (i.e. printed products)
nubbins`: the black dots are the ~1,200 colours in the pantone matching system
nubbins`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkqMzLR8kS8
assbot: The new PANTONE PLUS SERIES. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDH9EG )
nubbins`: brb
nubbins`: https://youtu.be/hkqMzLR8kS8?t=1m54s
assbot: The new PANTONE PLUS SERIES. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDIVpm )
nubbins`: drool
cazalla: on a scale of 1-10 such knowledge of colours interests me 0 but i can respect the enthusiasm and knowledge :)
nubbins`: cazalla, having a pantone book is like having a suitcase full of vials with "essence of ____" written on the labels
nubbins`: each one smelling of old leather, rustic tobacco, strawberry, green mould, etc
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cazalla: i bet you're the guy who steals all the paint swatches from the hardware store :P
nubbins`: nah, can't pantone match em ;)
nubbins`: look at that fucking press go
nubbins`: drool
cazalla: nubbins`, copics actually any good? missus has truckloads for some reason
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nubbins`: not my thing but from what i hear, yeah
nubbins`: dem brush tips
decimation: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/24/amazon-now-worth-more-than-wal-mart/ "As of the close, that had Wal-Mart’s market cap at $233.5 billion versus Amazon’s $224.5 billion, according to FactSet."
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decimation: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-24/google-has-way-to-unclog-drone-filled-skies-like-it-did-the-web < google salivates over the idea of appointing itself 'usg commissar of drones' ☟︎
assbot: Google Wants a Piece of Air-Traffic Control for Drones - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDP4ld )
decimation: Dave Vos, who heads Google’s secretive Project Wing, told Bloomberg News in his most expansive comments on Google’s vision to date. “The idea being that it’s not ‘Google is going to go out and build a solution and everyone else has to subscribe to it.’ The idea really is anyone should be free to build a solution.”
decimation: translation: we will crush anyone who attempts to enter this space ☟︎
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trinque: felipelalli: lol, looks like I need to make that regex greedy
trinque: I'll fix that then run your thing back through
trinque: "yo dawg, I heard you like gpg..."
felipelalli: trinque, what? :)
trinque: felipelalli: second signature got hacked off when it posted
trinque: no one could have ever forseen a signed message inside a signed message, you see!
felipelalli: really? But I can see here: http://deedbot.org/deed-2015-07-25-00-46-05.txt
decimation: asciilifeform, others: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/32651 "I just committed a change making musl the new default libc in OpenWrt
assbot: OpenWrt Development List ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMpC58 )
decimation: trunk, replacing uclibc."
trinque: felipelalli: second sig is gone
felipelalli: LOL
felipelalli: I just noticed it now
felipelalli: trinque, the problem was the UTF** again?
felipelalli: Or did I do something wrong?
mats: http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/technology/isis-chan/index.html
assbot: Anime nerds are trying to Google bomb ISIS - Jul. 23, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDQWKJ )
trinque: felipelalli: nah, muh regex is derped
trinque: I'll fix it this evening and send your thing back through
felipelalli: thank you very much. Actually you can ignore this. This was just the proposal contract, not the final yet.
trinque: eh I'll still send it through as a test case then
felipelalli: But I'll send a similar soon.
trinque: cool, sounds fine
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mats: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/07/24/skipping-church-facial-recognition-software-could-be-tracking-you
assbot: Skipping church? Facial recognition software could be tracking you - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDR3WF )
decimation: I considered building something like that myself
decimation: of course wapo thinks it's an evil idea, but perfectly fine for usg/telcoms to do it
decimation: obviously this kind of thing is going to slowly expand to be 'normal' in almost all situations
mats: time to bring back the hoodie and aviator sunglasses look ☟︎
decimation: heh
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cazalla: this is probably common to every library now but i look at the melbourne public library's website and notice they have ebooks available for loan.. go to loan ebook but can't because someone else has it out on loan and they only have 1 copy available
decimation: cazalla: doesn't that strike you as the dumbest thing ever? ☟︎
cazalla: someone somewhere must be making a killing off such a scheme
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cazalla: i figured the loan button was just another way of saying download, should've known better
decimation: yes, it's certainly the case that your tax dollars are going to some kind of 'authors collective'
cazalla: trying to suss out if they charge late fees on ebooks now
decimation: I thought most of those 'ebook lending schemes' worked on some kind of time-based poison pill
asciilifeform: cazalla: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=918 << related.
assbot: Loper OS » To Lend is the Right of an Owner – That is, Not You. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TY5dDA )
decimation: asciilifeform: what annoys me even more is that the selection of 'lendable ebooks' is complete shit
asciilifeform: unsurprising
decimation: usually throwaway fiction, never worthwhile technical books
asciilifeform: if someone is dumb enough to buy into such a chumpatron, why bother serving up anything but pablum
decimation: you would think they could at least serve up google's copy of pre-1923 books
asciilifeform: decimation: folks would cotton on to the truth - them being entirely free - pretty quickly
decimation: so the proles could read the victorians lamenting their future dumb asses
asciilifeform: last thing the 'ebook' racket wants is an infinite fountain of free. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212505 << the 'face recognizer' thing is setting the stage for some epic lulz. think 'sausage attack.' just about all the commercial face processors readily fall for inkjet-printed masks that wouldn't fool a child ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 02:30:44; mats: time to bring back the hoodie and aviator sunglasses look
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decimation: ^ all biometrics fall to similar kinds of sybil attacks
cazalla: asciilifeform, seems an obvious prediction in hindsight.. i guess i should step inside the library more often
decimation: cazalla: the problem is that most american libraries have gotten rid of their physical books
decimation: or carry nothing but similiar pablum
cazalla: i called them up regarding the late fees and no, no late fees on an ebook, librarian told me without prompting that they don't support the kindle either
asciilifeform: cazalla: the libraries where i live, still have books
asciilifeform: but the only ones with serious books are at universities
decimation: ^
asciilifeform: the municipal libraries are being converted to halls where homeless folks can check email, yes.
cazalla: their ebooks use this software apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OverDrive,_Inc.
assbot: OverDrive, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1It8B7p )
cazalla: well, software developed by that company anyway
cazalla: "The company's global network includes more than 27,000 libraries and schools."
asciilifeform: 'In January 2009, OverDrive informed Fictionwise that it would no longer be providing downloads for purchasers of e-books through Fictionwise as of January 31, 2009. No reason was provided to Fictionwise as to why it was being shut down. This prevents previous purchasers from being able to renew their books on new devices. Fictionwise was working to provide replacement ebooks for its customers in alternative, non-DRM-protected
asciilifeform: formats, but did not have the rights to provide all of the books in different formats.'
asciilifeform: ^ l0l!
asciilifeform: it has ~always~ been abundantly obvious what 'content vendors' think of folks dumb enough not to pirate.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, either they think they can't 'reach that market' or they are dumber than the average prole
asciilifeform: copyrasts whine about 'if you made movie, you didn't make that movie' but there can be no such thing as too cruel a revenge for 'if you bought a book, you didn't buy that book'
decimation: asciilifeform: actually I find youtube to be an interesting case here
decimation: many otherwise strict copyrasts load up youtube with their warez (where they are easily copied)
decimation: they can't help themselves because 'think of the publicity!'
asciilifeform: they still persist in delusions of 'ownership'
asciilifeform: try displaying the thing outside of turdtube, sans pestilential ads, etc.
decimation: yeah, there's a tacit agreement - you can copy our stuff but only we can sell it
decimation: actually what I find far more offensive than pablum-slinging are the academic publisher fiefs
asciilifeform: these exist at the pleasure of usg.
decimation: sure, but they use their exalted position to keep out those who don't have 'notes from stalin'
asciilifeform: but also because today's academitards are risk-averse sheeple of the worst kind.
asciilifeform: 'can't put paper on www, it isn't prestigious'
decimation: 'need prestige to get sinecure'
asciilifeform: the operative word is 'get'
asciilifeform: get where, from who
asciilifeform: point the finger - there.
decimation: generally the crown, or one of its organs
asciilifeform: crown could, if wished, proclaim tomorrow 'any academic claiming a publication on his cv that is not freely available on www is committing fraud, and liable'
asciilifeform: don't hold your breath for this. but ~could~
decimation: they kinda made a halfass derp in that direction
decimation: but it has enough loopholes to not make a difference
asciilifeform: precisely the kind of faux reform that exists to 'check a box'
asciilifeform: 'see, we tried'
asciilifeform: but it is a mistake to think that elsevier, wiley, et al exist to 'keep research from the plebes.' no one gives half a rat's arse about plebes. they exist as an inevitable fly on the juicy meat of the university
asciilifeform: just like the suppliers of $100 test tubes and $500 table legs
decimation: yeah, the plebes are kept out merely as a side effect of the gorging
decimation: because if the shoe-shine boy could get in on the racket it's already blown its load
asciilifeform: yes, elsevier is in the position to 'you get to pay us $2mil/yr or you don't get to run a university library'
asciilifeform: but it is one of 1,001 such entities
asciilifeform: gigantic bags of money don't come with arms and legs, can't defend selves from rentseekers
decimation: as for 'sheeple' - you of course realize how thin the shadow of an implication of a threat you would need to make for a tenure-hopeful to be thrown into near-suicidal doubt
asciilifeform: ergo when usg throws money to academitards, it really enriches the vultures who feed on the latter
decimation: yeah, like the 'gold rushers' of yore, the folks who got rich were the middlemen
asciilifeform: drink that cup of its-weight-in-gold water.
asciilifeform: delicious.
asciilifeform: and costs just the same across the street, too.
asciilifeform: because - it can.
decimation: yeah, the miners were not known for actually holding gold
asciilifeform: and it is very much not because they did not want to.
asciilifeform: (at times, the 'water sellers' are peculiarly slow to catch up - consider, for instance, that mains current cheap enough to mine btc with at a profit still appears to exist somewhere !)
decimation: asciilifeform: actually I was thinking about how one could buy otherwise useless land in the desert, get usg to subsidize solar, and sell space in a 'miner's datacenter'
asciilifeform: good way to build a free gift of hash for usg
asciilifeform: i'll pass.
decimation: heh
decimation: 'you didn't mine that bitcoin'
asciilifeform: and... where did the tx spam go
asciilifeform: i miss it so
decimation: free testing service?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: was very good test for me nodes
decimation: I guess the 'bitcoin core' devs and their patrons are regrouping
asciilifeform: making list of whose packets to drop must be hard wurk ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ohai
asciilifeform: phun phakt. ubiquitous series of ethernet cards by 'realtek' take (optional) microcode updates. (they are volatile, live in a kind of 'patch ram' until next reset.) they do not appear to match any known cpu arch (i tried a dozen or so.)
asciilifeform: available evidence points to these being code for a dsp, which modulates the business end of that thing, ~in software~. whoever solves these, could, conveivably, play music through the pairs...
asciilifeform: [insert obligatory thread re: 'magic packet' here]
mats: interesting
asciilifeform: phun phakt 2: the words 'magic packet' appear in the chip docs. for traditional variants thereof ('wake on lan') naturally
asciilifeform: several kinds are implemented. decoded 'in hardware' (that is to say, of course, by the thing running that microcode..)
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asciilifeform: https://github.com/Mieze/RTL8111_driver_for_OS_X/blob/master/RealtekRTL8111/RealtekRTL8111Linux-803700.cpp#L4737 << example
asciilifeform: i will add, mainly for n00bz in audience, that this nic - like all modern nics - does dma.
asciilifeform: and can 'master the bus'
asciilifeform: ~end of phun phakt musical interlude.~
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mircea_popescu: heh.
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scoopbot_revived: Oracle Sunday on Eulora http://trilema.com/2015/oracle-sunday-on-eulora/
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63350 @ 0.00053731 = 34.0386 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70650 @ 0.00055306 = 39.0737 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36632 @ 0.00054702 = 20.0384 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88688 @ 0.00055404 = 49.1367 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113619 @ 0.00055495 = 63.0529 BTC [+] {3}
scoopbot_revived: Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Continues To Grow http://qntra.net/2015/07/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-continues-to-grow/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54320 @ 0.00053731 = 29.1867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59443 @ 0.00055625 = 33.0652 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22213 @ 0.00055695 = 12.3715 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1212275 << in any case it'll benefit from being actually tried, especially if tried by people who aren't experts. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 20:58:09; ascii_field: i.e. if there is anyone here with a linux box on which any of the bins built thus far fail to run, something is very very wrong
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1212302 << taxation is first and foremost a political activity. it is an economic activity as a very distant second. the noton that "it'd ok because we;re doing productive milking" misses the point by about the same berth as the notion that "it's ok, we don't need guns because we got money". this is simply not how the car works. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 23:59:48; asciilifeform: usg has a firm grasp on milking the real feed base - the low-six-fig-usd artisan
mircea_popescu: it is a much stronger state that which taxes everyone, no matter how little, than the one which mostly doesn't tax, but gets "more money". the money it gets are worthless to it
mircea_popescu: which point should readily explain why it costs the chinese nothing to make missiles and the usians can't afford to make a plane.
mircea_popescu: it is also why b,tmsr~ works the way it does.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212358 << romania has a mandatory scheme (for the insurers - you may not obtain permit to sell insurance if you don't offer it to ANYONE!) that costs something ridiculous like 0.01% ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 00:19:48; nubbins`: any home owners in here wanna share their annual insurance premium, as a percentage of the value of their home?
mircea_popescu: then again romania consists of brick and concrete.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63432 @ 0.00055695 = 35.3285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106699 @ 0.00054465 = 58.1136 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: well, that'd be the rest of the sambuca gone.. result is muh monitor is looking like it is placed a couple metres away and is like 50m wide
cazalla: bingoboingo not around so must assume he is out banging black strippers
cazalla: ;;later tell bingoboingo i don't mind the darker complection but hope you tripple wrapping that shit brudda
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: https://transfer.sh/Oqy64/bxgxyqn.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MOF2Ll )
cazalla: whiteman wonka keeps em down shinohai
shinohai: xD
cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckkZihQUaU
assbot: MICHAEL BAY'S EVANGELION - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0I1XB )
cazalla: fkn sambuca, should'va stuck to soap bar, cause soap bar lastrs cause its fkn consistent
mircea_popescu: !up alt072
mircea_popescu: !rate alt072 1 New Eulorian
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/91353e66a1bb3d62
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.alt072.1:f08f7ddcbe375259c7186e524a39b3bd176d7d528d39fa50f347d14194f9eaaa
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for alt072 with note: New Eulorian
alt072: thanks mircea!
mircea_popescu: yee
mircea_popescu: alt072 http://dpaste.com/3RCDGY9
assbot: dpaste: 3RCDGY9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MOGnSp )
mircea_popescu: see you in game.
cazalla: what ya reckon, like father like son, i think he has good aesthetics, just gotta hit those weights like zyzz in a few years time http://i.imgur.com/rBilkrW.png http://i.imgur.com/nIRxdfT.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MOJ8TI )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MOJbii )
cazalla: mircea_popescu, what happened to your body guard anyway.. took bullet? jumped on grenade? retired? ☟︎
cazalla: in this house, we make pizza base from scratch mother fucker
mats: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 366927 | Current Difficulty: 5.227830484559168E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 368927 | Next Difficulty In: 2000 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 40 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -9.80941
mats: gribble is still stuck
cazalla: gribble be stuck since mid 2014 iirc
mats: wait, nvm
mats: win kernel aslr bypass https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3P18M-shbwrNWZTa181ZWRCclk
assbot: BypassAslrWin10.pdf - Google Drive ... ( http://bit.ly/1MOJAkY )
cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLXXa34NgFk throw chickens
assbot: SONGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW HAD LYRICS: LEGEND OF ZELDA - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MOKYnI )
cazalla: zzzz preserve your memories, they're all thats left you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70400 @ 0.00055219 = 38.8742 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00055732 = 3.8455 BTC [+]
shinohai: Dear mircea_popescu, this is why I think Spanish-language television is better than the Italian stuff you showed me yesterday: https://i.imgur.com/R6ClLWo.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFGfaL )
shinohai: Regards, shinohai
jurov: hi all
jurov: mircea_popescu: pls mpex withdraw
mircea_popescu: jurov will do.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212423 << mexico esp in the south is very distinctively colorful. superblue, megaorange, half the houses covered in shiny tile because mere paint not saturated enough... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 00:47:17; nubbins`: now it's just a thing people do. i have a friend who painted his house neon green
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212471 << more like, only path to survival for google. they don't have an actual place in the marketplace, they're much too large, old and ossified to find one. if they don't pull a redhat/mcdonalds/walmart/whatever and screw themselves in the usg spigot, they're going the way of revlon. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 02:08:19; decimation: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-24/google-has-way-to-unclog-drone-filled-skies-like-it-did-the-web < google salivates over the idea of appointing itself 'usg commissar of drones'
shinohai: Oh gawd, Miami was much the same last time I was there.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212474 << yeah, like they crushed anyone trying to make derpy social media sites with g+ and everyone trying to poke people in the eye with glass. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 02:08:44; decimation: translation: we will crush anyone who attempts to enter this space
mircea_popescu: " how nerds around the world are trying to silence violent ISIS terrorist propaganda."
mircea_popescu: bwhahaha.
mircea_popescu: usg sez "GLOBALIZED NERDS!!11"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212510 << it's pretty fucktarded. "the only copy of this file is <<loaned out>>" ? bwahahaha ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 02:49:08; decimation: cazalla: doesn't that strike you as the dumbest thing ever?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212526 << somehow i got this far through life without ever touching an ebook. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 03:00:14; asciilifeform: last thing the 'ebook' racket wants is an infinite fountain of free.
mircea_popescu: but to whosoever struggles to understand my outright rejection of pdfs : think moar. same stupid shit, the ebook of the 90s. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212599 << getting worse every day. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 03:40:11; asciilifeform: making list of whose packets to drop must be hard wurk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67427 @ 0.00054674 = 36.865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75300 @ 0.00054177 = 40.7953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00054177 = 19.4495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65750 @ 0.00054287 = 35.6937 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68500 @ 0.00054177 = 37.1112 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25714 @ 0.00054946 = 14.1288 BTC [+] {2}
scoopbot_revived: The Lion King http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/25/the-lion-king/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99000 @ 0.00055245 = 54.6926 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212714 << i thought it was because infinitely-buggy, exploitable version of 'postscript' ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 17:34:50; mircea_popescu: but to whosoever struggles to understand my outright rejection of pdfs : think moar. same stupid shit, the ebook of the 90s.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212712 << didntcha read orwell as txt ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 17:34:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212526 << somehow i got this far through life without ever touching an ebook.
mats: http://www.intelsecurity.com/advanced-threat-research/content/AttackingAndDefendingBIOS-RECon2015.pdf
asciilifeform: mats: Run Moar Winblowz! (puzzled? don't be. you don't need uefi on your box unless you Run Moar Winblowz. nuke it, replace with civilized bios)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27808 @ 0.00055719 = 15.4943 BTC [+] {2}
mats: literally worse than AIDS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46650 @ 0.00055685 = 25.9771 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78050 @ 0.0005519 = 43.0758 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: buenos dias
ben_vulpes: today we irc from the maternal care clinic!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96650 @ 0.00055814 = 53.9442 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: Que hay de bueno ben_vulpes, y que haces en una clinica?
ben_vulpes: taking care of the girl. kidney/bladder mystery.
shinohai: Sorry to hear that. I had surgery for a kidney stone years ago, and it was no picnic
ben_vulpes: girl says "watch the tests come back and the nurses struggle to say 'you're a weenie, pregnancy hurts, there's nothing wrong with you go home' politely"
trinque: haha
trinque: well at least it'll put her mind off it if so
ben_vulpes: in other news, it's raining for the first time in...weeks? months? in portland.
trinque: lovely out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52368 @ 0.00054018 = 28.2881 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126450 @ 0.00055885 = 70.6666 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00055811 = 21.1524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131200 @ 0.00055801 = 73.2109 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56038 @ 0.00053374 = 29.9097 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes blood ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0300011h.html#part22 << not an ebook is it ?
assbot: Fifty Orwell Essays ... ( http://bit.ly/1gc7qgj )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-07-2015#1212680 << yeah, married an ex whore, settled down in bari iirc ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 15:23:37; cazalla: mircea_popescu, what happened to your body guard anyway.. took bullet? jumped on grenade? retired?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: waitasec
asciilifeform: what's an ebook then
mircea_popescu: a sort of pdf.
asciilifeform: necessarily ?
mircea_popescu: www.ebooks.com/ <
mircea_popescu: it's a turdformat.
asciilifeform: even some of the most bitterly chumpatronic drm-encrusted turd formats aren't paginated
asciilifeform: e.g., 'kindle' mobi
asciilifeform: (which, incidentally, is trivially decrypted into plain ascii)
mircea_popescu: point being, they're all the same thing, aka a pdf : an attempt to encapsulate text into some sort of blob.
asciilifeform: every morning, birds try to encapsulate my car into a kind of blob
mircea_popescu: whatever the pretext : so it's "easier to print", so it "can be handled by tabled", what have you, it's an abuse of text
asciilifeform: it's an ephemeral thing.
mircea_popescu: the POINT of text is that everyone fucks with its bits.
mircea_popescu: hence intetextuality.
mircea_popescu: in other news, woman has an alien https://daretoredream.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/birthing-pool-43-rev.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GP5kI8 )
asciilifeform in other news is sitting and writing 16-bit x86 crud
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51400 @ 0.00054946 = 28.2422 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up pussyfreak
pussyfreak: ty
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00056027 = 14.0628 BTC [+]
asciilifeform notices that phuctor Π(∀n) is most of a GB
asciilifeform: (in decimal form, that is)
shinohai: @ ben_vulpes are you still around ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1k digits/modulus means that most keys are actually 4kb huh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: avg. modulus is ~700 digits, which corresponds to ~2048 bits.
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: so 2kb
mircea_popescu: this seems more in line with what one'd expect
asciilifeform: in other news, average human has half a cock
mircea_popescu: along or across ?
mircea_popescu: "astitch"
asciilifeform: dulap!
jurov: i thought average human is hermaphrodit
ben_vulpes: shinohai: am now, what's up?
shinohai: Well, I guess you are sorta right jurov
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 346054 @ 0.00056091 = 194.1051 BTC [+] {4}
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/L3m5puQ.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JFMYvk )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96672 @ 0.0005332 = 51.5455 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80700 @ 0.00056133 = 45.2993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121602 @ 0.00056133 = 68.2589 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43016 @ 0.00056134 = 24.1466 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141686 @ 0.00054083 = 76.628 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: apropos of nothing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823.msg9530#msg9530
assbot: overflow bug SERIOUS ... ( http://bit.ly/1S2840F )
ben_vulpes: related to above, when and how was the reward halving bug discovered?
mircea_popescu: 2012ish ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36211 @ 0.00056136 = 20.3274 BTC [+]