BingoBoingo: Anything in particular bring you here today?
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assbot: SwagPokerz comments on BIP 102: Increase block size limit to 2MB on Nov 11, 2015. by jgarzik · Pull Request #6451 · bitcoin/bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1Oih8ZJ )
popmechanic: Michael Goldstein referenced this channel on Twitter today. I hadn’t heard of it and am interested in Bitcoin so I thought I’d lurk for, oh, 6 months or so;)
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BingoBoingo: popmechanic: Sounds like a solid plan. Probably would be prudent to register. The you can self voice to ask questions. WHen asking questions you will probably get links which will lead you to the golden six months of logs to read.
popmechanic: !register 48802F831BAFC232A26C974A0DA5926BC6E7BDCF
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 48802F831BAFC232A26C974A0DA5926BC6E7BDCF. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key C6E7BDCF / "keybase.io/marcusestes <marcusestes@keybase.io>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
mats: does keybase have your private key, popmechanic?
BingoBoingo: popmechanic: DO you work for Keybase or do they just offer email addy's at their domain.
danielpbarron: that means his key was generated in web browser via javascript, I think
popmechanic: Apparently they just offer email addresses? Not sure, first time I’ve used the service. I totally understand and am prepared to agree with a predjudice against a service like this, because they’re going to end up sitting on private keys. But it’s optional, and actually a pretty handy way to manage a few aspects of PGP management.
popmechanic: Correct, I believe the key is generated client side.
trinque: eh if it was generated in a browser it's still unsafe
trinque: how can you be sure you're running the JS they intended? (or that their JS intends well)
danielpbarron: it is possible to make your own key offline through keybase but I just don't see the point
BingoBoingo: popmechanic: What OS are you on? Javascript RNGs are notoriously unsafe. As unsafe as Pirate Party RNGs
mats: popmechanic: piling on a bit here, but i suggest running it through Phuctor, a service that attempts to factor keys with weak moduli --
http://nosuchlabs.com BingoBoingo: popmechanic: Build GPG, preferably a 1.4.x series version and do the key generation thing again
Adlai: mats: i'm not sure you're reading that quite right
BingoBoingo: mats: Phuctor broke 95. The duplicate modulus is a different kind of warning than broken
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decimation: asciilifeform: what do these companies do?
mats: heh, how did you come upon this?
decimation: biggest one is 12m according to google earth
decimation: lemme see if I can figure out which satellite the minor dishes are pointed at
mats: "I believe that we are in a post-hacker world ... We should strive to be professionals, making the Internet a safer place rather than exposing vulnerabilities that can be leveraged by criminals and terrorists. This is why I'm going to encourage you to attend professional security conferences like Black Hat, RSA, SANS and others"
mats: DEFCON is not canceled, this is satire, for any casual observers
decimation: asciilifeform: the northern two dishes appear to be pointed toward a heading of 107 degrees (true)
decimation: that would line them up with Intelsat 905
decimation: unfortunately the 12 meter dish is pointing up (probably 'safed') so I can't determine its bearing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00054878 = 28.5914 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43414 @ 0.00055299 = 24.0075 BTC [+] {2}
decimation:
http://www.loral.com/inthenews/020605.html "Each of the new Intelsat IX series satellites carries 76 C-band and 22 Ku-band operating transponders (in 36 MHz equivalents), and its solar arrays will generate more than 8.6 kilowatts of power (beginning of life)."
decimation: plenty of bandwidth for an african isp
decimation: but they typically use 8 or 4 psk in those analog segments
decimation: the lyngsat page says that at least two of the 30 MHz transponders are dedicated to AOL
decimation: employing "ACM" which apparently switches between 4psk and 16 qam, which would allow a gross throughput of approx 60-120 megabit/sec
decimation: now, if these folks are running miners, the question is 'why over sat link'
decimation: well, that office doesn't look like a very big data center
decimation: also, did you note the military looking vehicles in their parking lot?
decimation: you can see on streeview from the east side
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decimation: it's odd they have such a massive dish too
decimation: it's possible they use the massive dish to hit geo stuff that's very low on the horizon
decimation: but that dish would cost a couple $ mil easy
decimation: one wild theory: this isp and its hangers-on are 'owned' by some tinpot dictator in africa
decimation: who also has access to 'free' electricity - which he uses to mine
decimation: nigeria, for example, is drowning in cheap crude oil - could be 'diverted' to power someone's bitcoin mining operation
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> entirely plausible that mr spamphone likes buying surplus. << I remember in the old Tom Clancy novels his various supposed NatSec agencies being funded by "spamzors" and their financial equivalent.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i've passed up opportunities to own a truck quite like that, on account of having nowhere to keep it << Truck like that keeps itself
mircea_popescu: crude oil is not realy useful to power an electric plant.
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decimation: sure, if you don't give a shit about nasty emissions
mircea_popescu: nah. gotta appreciate, power plants are products of industry like anything else
mircea_popescu: plenty of models made to run onm the heavy stuff left after gas distillation
mircea_popescu: none of them run on crude, not since 1880 at any rate.
mircea_popescu: putting gasoline in a diesel engine is not unlike putting crude oil in a tar or coal plant.
BingoBoingo: decimation: I was more thinking about how such vehicles create space for themselves.
decimation: mircea_popescu: ships, big power plants run on heavy fuel oil
decimation: www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/01/nigerias-illegal-oil-refineries/100439/ < they literally refine it in jungle conditions
TomServo: In other news, I noticed this blurb on the OpenBSD octeon page today: "In June 2015 USB support was added which finally allowed installing to local disk on machines lacking a CF slot."
TomServo: The docs don't exactly reflect it, but I can confirm the snapshot of 5.8 does see and boot from usb.
decimation: TomServo: did you install directly onto usb?
BingoBoingo: Nice, made it in before 5.8 hit Beta this week
decimation: or did you write image from another computer?
TomServo: Booted via tftp, installed from there
TomServo: excited to have just gotten my first console on the edgerouter
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decimation: so the 5.8 release will probably be in the autumn sometime?
TomServo: November, if I recall correctly.
decimation: "Most oil-fired steam locomotives used Bunker C, although in some parts of the country they actually burned raw crude oil. As noted before, Bunker C was readily available and dirt cheap. (Steve Lee, April 18, 2000, via email to The Streamliner discussion group)"
BingoBoingo: decimation: Point releases happen in May and November on the first
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mircea_popescu: there are some "universal fuel" power generators, mostly marketed to end user derps
☟︎ mircea_popescu: because who the fuck else would not know what fuel he wants to burn
mircea_popescu: in any case the generality comes at an efficiency cost.
decimation: well, a turbine can burn anything. but it's true that if you are burning raw crude it will foul your turbine and require much more maintenance
decimation: because of all the solvents and other shit in the oil
BingoBoingo: They still run through the middle of my countryside, still belch foul shit
decimation: it seems the real problem with burning crude or heavy fuel oil is that if you have enough civilization to refine the oil, you can make it into much more profitable products
decimation: the net effect being that the amount of 'heavy fuel' (bunker b and c) has shrunk compared to old process - making it more expensive than just using diesel
decimation: this isn't really true in areas that have no advanced refining available
mircea_popescu: soo... imo musk's electric car has failed to reach the sort of growth patterns and penetration goals it needed to survive. it therefore peaked sometime last year, and it will go the same way all the numerous attempts at an electric car since the 20s have went.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 03:03:55; mircea_popescu: there are some "universal fuel" power generators, mostly marketed to end user derps
decimation: asciilifeform: yes, but could probably run on 'jungle oil' if it isn't solidified
mircea_popescu: there is good reason to build a universal engine into a tank intended for 1950s style attreition war.
mircea_popescu: (exactly the hipster car of today, incdentally. marketed to women and doctors, had curved glass panes, etc)
decimation: honestly elon musk strikes me as a highbrow scammer
decimation: he's figured out how to sell 'dreams' in exchange for usg subsidy and hype
mircea_popescu: this is the case of all us "entrepreneurs" active today.
decimation: to be fair, he does deliver products - rockets, cars, etc
mircea_popescu: made 100 different decisions since, 100 of which were wrong.
decimation: but the economic prospects appear highly dubious
mircea_popescu: a man batting < 1% is certainly not possessed of a clue in the field.
mircea_popescu: he's the business world equivalent of a russian prison whore.
mircea_popescu: the substantial difference between the subset here named and the rest of the set consisting of various reddit experts and your spamming friend has nothing to do with them
mircea_popescu: some earthworms find incredible caches of forgotten artefacts. doth not qualify them as archeologists.
mats: tesla doesn't sell electric cars
mats: they sell batteries and infrastructure
mircea_popescu: romania has a bunch of these "intreprinzatori de carton", ie, cardboard entrepreneurs. one notable case (currently in jail) got to keep ~2bn worth of romanian govt money in 1989, on condition of supporting his friends.
mircea_popescu: never actually supported anyone worth a squat and is now ~broke
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mats: that was hyperbolic but you see my point yes?
mats: hey, didn't say i'd bet against you
mats: they are massively overvalued right now and i would not be interested in taking the other side
decimation: yes, note that this battery system costs many times more than lead-acid
decimation: thus appealing to the kinds of people who want to store electricity but don't care about how much things cost
trinque: I've seen a great many Solar City fliers around, speaking of Musk.
trinque: hilariously, these would be useless during the rainy season
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes they produce cars, and the model s sold a whopping... 75k units
decimation: trinque: they also rely heavily on subsidy
mircea_popescu: that's exactly detroit electric volume touched up for the intervening century.
trinque: decimation: certainly, and loose financing
mats: asciilifeform: yes, and all usable sources have already been dammed
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business.
mats: oh, right. up and down hills and mountains.
mats: i forgot how efficient it is
mats: fuck, people are still setting off fireworks in my area
decimation: if you wanna waste electricity like that, might as well just split water and use hydrogen
decimation: yeah at least not in any existing ones
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mats: any idea what fuels modern jets? certainly not jp-9 anymore?
mats: >A kerosene-based fuel, JP-8 is projected to remain in use at least until 2025. It was first introduced at NATO bases in 1978. Its NATO code is F-34.
mats: how about that. late 70s tech still keeping the lights on.
decimation: sure, turbine burns kerosene just fine
decimation: you could also burn 'heavy fuel oil' in theory, but that's not a terribly great idea in a high reliablity application
decimation: but the abrams tank would burn jp-8 just fine
decimation: yeah, probably anything that will run through the pumps
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds
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mircea_popescu: the alternative was also unpalatable tho. you don't want to engage in a bidding war with the dying gm/ford thing for their lasty remaining shred of relevancy
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mircea_popescu: in any case, as a fun tidbit : the 2010 tesla ipo, first us carmaker ipo since ww2, came to half the recently reported plenty of fish sale
mircea_popescu: (plenty of fish being the 5th or so dating site sold in a decade, which "Dating site" is the twelfth or so wheel on the social media band wagon)
decimation: the only american autos that 'actual people' buy are trunks
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> but this brings us back to the question of whether mr s has ~intellectual authority~ << intellectual authority is a very simple thing in capitalism. see it at work in how the "blockchain size increase" was tranched : once someone says "this is how much it costs", the derps willing to talk were separated from the people willing to pay.
decimation: yeah, but what market? the 950/1000 block rule?
mircea_popescu: in the end, it reduces to "does he have the intellectual authority to bluff". well... do you have the intellectual authority to call it ?
mircea_popescu: decimation i mean the original, end of 2014/2015 dispute, about "herp derp we'll raise the block limit"
mircea_popescu: satoshi could pop up, propose some arbitrary strange, and have everyone (everyone that matters, ie, with money!) presented with the dilemma : do they buy up the stash ? or do they move on to the strange ?
mircea_popescu: if his strange does not suck, you can keep talking about its strangeness all you want.
trinque: it would be an incredible thing if the man has the keys and has shown this much restraint
mircea_popescu: otherwise, not even the us supreme court rules without a case.
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trinque: him staying silent during things like the blocksize "debate" speaks volumes imo
mats: or perhaps he reads the logs.
trinque: dunno how someone who was paranoid enough to never speak his own name would allow gavin and company to crawl all over his greatest work
mats: howssat for a political coup
trinque: or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron
☟︎ trinque: "they can have it if they do not break it"
mats: though on last check he seemed to be more likely to be aligned with gavin (bitcoin for the people, etc)
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trinque: yeah, I have to say I find him having been found as the most likely
trinque: if he is the VS/winderz derp, how is it that he generated unbreakable keys?
trinque: fuck knows I don't know how to approach it if he did
trinque: if one guy at the NSA is the only one who can...
trinque: what I'm saying is that runs contrary to the derp theory
trinque: I read all day about how intel's backdoored, mobo's backdoored, so on so on
trinque: or at least would appear to be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9135 @ 0.00055481 = 5.0682 BTC [+]
trinque: I suppose he could be the windows derp and still know to at least use a separate airgapped box for the keys
trinque: I was not around for the early days
trinque: but I take your point; there wouldn't have been reason to target someone like him until doing so wouldn't have mattered
trinque: right, say there's a decent way to do factoring. I think I pulled that one from your blog
trinque: put plainly, watching phuctor phuck, I'd thought that there surely must be some way of doing the same thing on badly generated bitcoin addresses
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assbot: IS’ Sinai Province Claims Destroying Egyptian Frigate in Mediterranean | Jihadist News | Articles ... (
http://bit.ly/1Mxqyzj )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00057055 = 16.8312 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: First slaying on DC Metro in its 40-year history: Witnesses watched but didn't intervene | Fox News ... (
http://bit.ly/1LoMFsX )
mats: matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO
☟︎ decimation: well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile
☟︎ mats: iirc older .ru ATGMs have a range of ~5km
mats: easy enough to maneuver a series of boats into range if not firing from the coast
decimation: asciilifeform: where did that stabbing take place?
assbot: Download Video Compilation of Over 100 ATGM Shots In Syria (36min 40sec) in 3GP, MP4, FLV and WEBM Format - Cembu.ru ... (
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mats: hard to tell but many of those targets look well over 3km
decimation: "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. "
☟︎ decimation: note: the victim was a skinny white guy
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mats: particularly dumb criminals, i suppose
mats: iirc some folks finally convinced carriers to disable stolen phones?
decimation: supposedly he was 'high' on 'synthetic marijuana'
mats: lol, 'spice' (research chemicals)?
decimation: asciilifeform: do you think metro could tell the difference between suicide and murder?
decimation: asciilifeform: maybe because it took place on a moving train
decimation: asciilifeform: no, it's not a common news item (the murdering) because of 'advocates of progressive causes'
trinque: some kid made the funny papers the other day in portland
assbot: Portland police make an arrest in fatal Old Port shooting - WGME - Portland ME Top Stories - News, Sports, Weather, Traffic ... (
http://bit.ly/1MxsnfB )
trinque: this notion that "someone should've helped" is hilarious
decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
☟︎ decimation: I know he wrote about the splc and the right wing route to power
decimation: asciilifeform: also I note his comments seem to have more weight than the text
MoltenBosnia: I have otc rating just gotta get laptop with keys running.
decimation: ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching."
☟︎ decimation: ^ why civvie-orc murdering is trumpeted
decimation: note that 'pathetic dork' seems to fit the description of that guy in charleston
decimation: trinque: did you manage to make a copy of yarvin's blog?
trinque: yeah, the one iirc punkman recommended
trinque: interface is a little goofy, but I got the files I wanted
decimation: apparently now is the time to acquire a copy, before it disappears forever into google's memory hole
decimation: for they surely do not wish to hold it
trinque: decimation: I am taking that attitude towards every piece of valuable information I find.
mats: hm, some of the missiles fired in that video appear to have traveled more than 5km based on ~30s flight time
mats: apparently isis has some of the spiffier, longer range ATGMs
trinque: asciilifeform: mind if I eat loper-os too?
trinque: I am a student farther back on my lisp quest
trinque: helpful perspectives on that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00057436 = 7.8687 BTC [+]
decimation: ah, apparently the httrack widget creates an index as it copies
decimation: yeah, and to make a mirror would be a bit costly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79000 @ 0.00056712 = 44.8025 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: the cost per credit is quite reasonable
trinque: couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are
☟︎ trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
☟︎☟︎ trinque: since there is are explicit terms right there on the site for use
decimation: for those who haven't seen it, it's a big rock cliff face with robert e lee, stonewall jackson, and jefferson davis
trinque: decimation: sort of an unsettling development, "progress" not satisfied until history never even happened
decimation: yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too
☟︎ trinque: I have been musing lately on the relationship between sovereignty, language/meaning creation, and delusional behavior such as this.
trinque: as though if you trust a weapon such as sovereignty to the wrong people, you get this nonsense
trinque: they blow their own heads off
trinque: let me see if I can restate: the mechanism of modern american narcissism for example is precisely that the type of person walks around thinking they can simply declare things to be so, because they feel they ought to be
decimation: trinque: yes, what is happening in the west is akin to self-immolation of some kind
trinque: a leader does this same thing, but not as a sort of onanist
trinque: he declares meaning for a larger group
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108062 @ 0.00054869 = 59.2925 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:12:55; decimation: yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too
assbot: D.C.’s Chinatown has only 300 Chinese Americans left, and they’re fighting to stay. - The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1LoXtYd )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84223 @ 0.00054524 = 45.9217 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: mats: at least in the case of the west antarctic glacier I read something interesting regarding the involvement of geologic activity
trinque: of course warming is also occurring
trinque: sounds though like that glacier *is* headed for the ocean
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:40:10; decimation: "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. "
mats: trinque: fun times ahead
mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
☟︎☟︎ trinque: wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something
☟︎ cazalla: trinque, they have been doing that every year for the past few years if memory serves
trinque: how bout I start deedbotting IPs and names and let that be that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32655 @ 0.00053197 = 17.3715 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: "GOVT REQUIRES FRESH SCANS OF YOUR ASSHOLE PER ANNUM"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80774 @ 0.00053105 = 42.895 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7424 @ 0.00052484 = 3.8964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00054691 = 13.7548 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126800 @ 0.00054068 = 68.5582 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13883 @ 0.00053922 = 7.486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81912 @ 0.00053922 = 44.1686 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 285 @ 0.0039091 = 1.1141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00056287 = 28.5375 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.00053851 = 31.2874 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:18:22; asciilifeform: trinque: this was done. for 'android' wallet of one kind or another
assbot: Generated invalid address '1FYMZEHnszCHKTBdFZ2DLrUuk3dGwYKQxh' · Issue #403 · jim618/multibit · GitHub ... (
http://bit.ly/1Dk5nLK )
punkman: that's the address for secret exponent=0
punkman: it's currently unspendable, though I think you might be able to spend it on 0.5.3
shinohai: sweet, you think you could make counterparty work?
shinohai: oh multibit. I never liked it so never used it
shinohai is just coming awake, having coffee @ 4 am
shinohai: tbh i thought maybe 50 people used multibit
punkman: I believe someone has actually sold the private key of the above address
punkman: then the guy that bought it realizes he can't spend anything from the address
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00055528 = 5.9137 BTC [+]
punkman: interestingly, "re-used k" is how the Playstation 3 keys were broken
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00055528 = 3.8314 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00056318 = 12.0521 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00055631 = 12.4613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00056428 = 34.675 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48650 @ 0.00056458 = 27.4668 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100050 @ 0.00055131 = 55.1586 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70678 @ 0.00053962 = 38.1393 BTC [-]
assbot: The Square Kilometre Array: radio silence in Western Australia for most powerful telescope in history | Science | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1I8cEWt )
jurov: "Given that no computer exists that will be able to deal with the volume of what SKA will produce, the success of the project rests on the continuing robustness of Moore’s law: that every 18 to 24 months computer processing power will double."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45039 @ 0.00052954 = 23.85 BTC [-]
jurov: shipping yottabytes from australia?
jurov: it smells to me like it really needs to be processed on the spot
mircea_popescu: because there's going toi be a single box yottabyte processor.
mircea_popescu: looky, distributed doesn't mean geographically dispersed.
jurov: i mean, moore's not what they expect anymore, they may end up needing gigawatts of ower and cooling,
jurov: meticulously RF shielded
jurov: whether 10km or 100km away from the site does not make such big difference
jurov: and then someone will hax it and use radio as mere entropy source for mining :DDDD
assbot: Pirate radio station near Portland shut down, operator fined - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... (
http://bit.ly/1I8dwKT )
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assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:03:27; trinque: or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64900 @ 0.0005389 = 34.9746 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: meanwhile my pogo is running smooth: I've been connected to mpex.btc for 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 6 seconds.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28571 @ 0.00054353 = 15.5292 BTC [+]
shinohai: i connected to your node until it failed, now i just have 1 connection.
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be up and down as i play with this nonsense block.
shinohai: yes i bookmarked that as "ph0rk 1"
shinohai: I am keeping a messy log of it
shinohai: danielpbarron was down the day i got my pogo of all days.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:12:43; asciilifeform: (and chances are, i will, l0l)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72800 @ 0.00052475 = 38.2018 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: so i am stalled, but it is a hell of a device, this pogo
shinohai: i am sure it will kick ass when i get an actual ssd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00055306 = 16.7024 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:27:11; mats: matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:28:03; decimation: well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:50:44; decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:54:03; decimation: ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00052456 = 13.114 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i watched a great film recently. "knockaround guys". it has some great names in it (malkovich has by now taken his obsession with 'voice training' to the point he has a serious speech impediment, his mental issues with voice remind one of angelina jolie and secondary sexual characteristics)
mircea_popescu: but the thing is so bad, ill conceived, mishapen and plain out lame as you couldn't believe.
mircea_popescu: at some point four utter dorks riding around in a car go "imagine, guys like us. we could be owning this place in a week!"
mircea_popescu: unintentional for sure, but an excellent expose of mental retardation, us style.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00055972 = 9.4033 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:03:59; asciilifeform: (we all know why. and i'm gonna guess that he doesn't give a damn, 'nobody needed the library of alexandria for anything')
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:08:56; trinque: couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
punkman: how many of those are in romanian btw
mircea_popescu: lemme see. tho i'd expect folks with the archival bent to want to preserve those particularly. who even knows what they actually say.
punkman: oh wow, we've missed all kinds of good stuff
punkman: us that don't read romanian
mircea_popescu: in fairness a lot of it is not legitimately interesting other than to try and pry into "the personality of the man" etc. lots of style discussions, places nobody really gives a shit about etc.
mircea_popescu: a good chunk of the legitimately interesting stuff was linked either here in reference to soemthing or in english articles etc.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 06:11:28; trinque: wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00054698 = 2.9537 BTC [-]
shinohai: That may be the find of the week
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71101 @ 0.0005545 = 39.4255 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00052371 = 25.6618 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53393 @ 0.00055572 = 29.6716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00052911 = 13.7039 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109479 @ 0.00052369 = 57.3331 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53268 @ 0.00052172 = 27.791 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44700 @ 0.00052814 = 23.6079 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: mkay. well you have to admit that they're considerably farther reaching than 'taliban'
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 i haz pogoplug demo video xD
punkman: "The United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions, commonly known as the Plum Book, is published every four years, after the Presidential election. The Plum Book is used to identify presidentially appointed positions within the Federal Government"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58475 @ 0.0005217 = 30.5064 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: it's true, it looks like the 7-10 nm range is gonna be a strech for production
decimation: obviously prototypes have been created, but it's another matter to crank out such chips in production
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3074 @ 0.00053386 = 1.6411 BTC [+]
mats: someone fucked up when pricing their shares
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8626 @ 0.00053588 = 4.6225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8063 @ 0.00052607 = 4.2417 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79098 @ 0.00052065 = 41.1824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25120 @ 0.00054036 = 13.5738 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30280 @ 0.00054485 = 16.4981 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: seems like a lot but i have to admit that i rarely look at such things.
shinohai: I heard that a bunch of sjw's got upset because etsy won't let you sell spells anymore.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
trinque has all this disk and so little worthwhile content with which to fill it
trinque: I'm thinking of making it a semi-official function of deedbot to archive a particular site at a particular time and timestamp the bundle
punkman: that would make some pretty big bundles though
trinque: punkman: I just snagged a machine with a few raid cards and 8 drives, but yeah, probably so
trinque: I might make the rating requirement for site-archival a bit higher than for deeds
trinque: anyhow, just musing on the thought currently
punkman: we had a couple threads about it
jurov: "Astonishingly, an unmodified Doble Model E runs clean enough to pass the strict emissions laws in California today." heh
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00054485 = 31.9282 BTC [+]
ascii_field: jurov: iirc, the incurably fatal defect of that car was the five-minute start time
jurov: they made it down to 90 sec
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0005287 = 1.3218 BTC [-]
danielpbarron:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178718 << me too! and the "famicon" mentioned earlier in this thread might sound familiar to fans of SMB2 -- the ~real~ SMB2 is known in the english world as "The Lost Levels" because it was deemed "too difficult" for them when it first came out, and "Super Famicon" was re-branded and re-skinned and shipped to USSA in its place
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 04:00:51; *: decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games
trinque: danielpbarron: yeah, our mario 2 was that weird platformer they rebranded at the last minute
danielpbarron: yep, with the mega-lame least-creative-way-to-end-a-story-possible... IT WAS ALL A DREAM L0L
danielpbarron: pretty much, although it will always be nostalgic to me
danielpbarron: but yeah, i generally glare at people who exclaim "OMG smb2 is my fav!1"
trinque: I play it for the same reason time to time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88600 @ 0.00054374 = 48.1754 BTC [+] {3}
mod6: shinohai: cool! got a link for us yet? wanna check it out :]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00054485 = 5.1216 BTC [+]
trinque: yeah, neat. I just fired up my own pogo today
trinque: got a nice little intel ssd for it too
shinohai: nice trinque I don't have ssd yet T_T
trinque: had an old 80gb in a macbook I finally retired to the dumpster
trinque sheds a single tear for "elderbook"
trinque: interesting, what brings you to that archaeological dig?
trinque: shinohai: newegg has 'em for about 50 bux
jurov: what? macbooks with 80g intel ssds can be bought for 50bux?
trinque: tho that macbook wasn't even worth 50 bucks
trinque: would've probably lived longer if not for the many dousings with beer/coffee/misc
ascii_field lulz at the folks who nod when he says 'computer should cost $100k and be a heirloom' who then tell about the coffee they spilled in their 7th laptop
trinque: 100k computer goes in the basement!
trinque: I'll beer all over my cheap terminal
ascii_field: ever look at what vt100 and its contemporaries cost ?
ascii_field: (i, for one, was surprised when learned the answer)
jurov: basement that never gets flooded!
trinque: jurov: errrr sealed missile silo!
trinque: ascii_field: haven't, maybe a misguided assumption
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64362 @ 0.00054036 = 34.7787 BTC [-]
trinque: found one for a grand, damn.
trinque: but this is because it's vintage
trinque: ah, at the time I'm sure they were very expensive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187150 @ 0.0005398 = 101.0236 BTC [-] {4}
decimation: I have an old macbook1,1 I would like to use for stator
decimation: one day when I get some extra time I might work on the osx build stuff
mod6: so I dumped a few blocks 0, 1, 2, 199`999, etc.
mod6: and i never did find that magic number in there: 0xf9, 0xbe, 0xb4, 0xd9
mod6: which i thought was kinda weird, so i looked at the code again. This is a part of CMessageHeader, used in ProcessMessage -- so I ran a tcpdump while syncing:
mod6: i don't see the bytes in any order.
mod6: (in the block itself)
mod6: just in the message header
mod6: then is dump block not including it?
mod6: so dumping the first four blocks with `dumpblock' into each their own .bin files, then using xxd and shovling them all into one file, here's the result:
http://dpaste.com/1B1H1PC.txt mod6: ok, ftr, this is from nsl's node with -verifyall on.
mod6: just thought it was worth mentioning that i found it in the MessageHeader with tcpdump.
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trinque: pilots get tired of fish in a barrel, eh?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Probably tired of not actually being pilots
mircea_popescu: kinda weird seeing how drone flying is a common hobby on uni campuses
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16228 @ 0.000546 = 8.8605 BTC [+]
trinque: could be entirely unrelated to being a drone operator too
BingoBoingo: Well, there probably a difference between flying drones as a lay hobbyist and flying drones when you spent your youth training to fly planes you fit inside
mircea_popescu: maybe nobody wants to be in the navy anymore because it's doing dumbass "sensitivity training"
davout: who wants to fly drones when you can either fly fighter jets or fuck flight attendants
trinque: yeah, amounts to a cubicle job a lot like being a videogame tester
mircea_popescu: all this effort put into becoming "more women friendly" in a retarded, contorted way that women don't give a shit about and pisses off men is mayhap paying off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72350 @ 0.00053757 = 38.8932 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: this "surgical" death from the sky thing strikes me as a bit like playing with one's food
trinque: at least larger wars might end
mircea_popescu: PRIVILEGE IS BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BY REALITY!1111
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 16:51:29; punkman: URL deeding would be handy
mircea_popescu: otherwise "signing an url" is kinda like "windows security" in that pages include foreign elements.
chetty: ahaha so thats it, its realities fault
ascii_field: i must note that archive.today is not (apparently) recursive
trinque: well god's dead and that's no fair, so the state will have to chip in instead
trinque: the archive I'm building is primarily for my own reading
trinque: personally I'll settle for whatever I can find of the best content, and the rest can be damned
ascii_field: that is, the default behaviour of 'wget -m'
mircea_popescu: if you really feel like burning time on this, feel free to look at random sites see what depthy=1 gets you
ascii_field: (on the mr mold example from last night. got everything that's worth anything there)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00052065 = 11.3502 BTC [-]
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: sooo in other nyooz, last night i got a x86_64 buildroot on musl going. shits out a bootable iso
ascii_field: not to be confused with the turd from 3 month ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3474 @ 0.00054258 = 1.8849 BTC [+]
ascii_field: point is not only to test pogo build and get musl in, but also it is useful to have a rom-able pc realbitcoinotron
mod6: but yea, was able to build stator as fully static, thanks to ascii_field's cuts from the source.
ascii_field: drop in optical disk, it looks for blockchain on largest blockdev, if doesn't find - counts down with skull, minute later - formats drive, starts fetching blocks...
shinohai: i havent built a staic stator on pogo yet
ascii_field: ^ above is the notion. all i have presently is a 10m iso that boots to shell
ascii_field: and self-contained (relies on no libs from host)
mircea_popescu: "pogo responds to magic packet on port X by sending over the iso"
trinque: if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.00052065 = 1.0429 BTC [-]
trinque: is there anything that'd keep this hp turdserver from having the svm flag on the cpus other than... not having that?
trinque: bios didn't seem to have a virtualization setting
mircea_popescu: Jul 2015538954457,386663,979488816.56 GB << jurov you know i blame you for this right ?
jurov: is that minigame.bz? well, you asked for it
mod6: <+trinque> if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site. << Hear, hear.
mircea_popescu: on the plus side there's well over 1k complete versions of the thing i nthe wild now, so it's not a total loss.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50397 @ 0.00051966 = 26.1893 BTC [-]
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mircea_popescu: halp i have endian problems in my head. peta not yotta!
jurov: i thought you're just trying to be poetic
trinque: either I have a good nose or the neighbors are *really* drinking this afternoon
trinque: so I go over there with a flamethrower and a bandana on my face, then fuck the ashes?
trinque: it'd be a neat company to have, something which built heavily fortified homes
trinque: wonder if there's a market for that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88187 @ 0.00054224 = 47.8185 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: if I someday neither hear, smell, nor see neighbors, that'll be a good close to chapter one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104900 @ 0.00051838 = 54.3781 BTC [-] {4}
ben_vulpes: neat to hear about musl, asciilifeform
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: once you have a known-good blockchain, just copy it
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: i know that it takes longer, but i like to actually exercise the sync mechanism once every five builds or so
ben_vulpes: anyways i was poking at hunchentoot in service of making an httoy out of some of the patches that you've posted recently and discovered that the sbcl i had on the plane didn't support threads
trinque: man I would've bought the scam wifi for a flight that long
mod6: im running it on two seperate envs now actually.
mod6: ones at 294k and the other... 158k
ben_vulpes: trinque: wifi over ocean: yes. cell for scammers to resell - no
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: no, i have not tried verifyall yet
ben_vulpes: just reading your patches and thinking about how to exercise them is a quarter-time job
ben_vulpes: keep in mind that this is how i'm learning cpp
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ben_vulpes: ascii_field: the only way to re-verify a chain-on-disk right now is to dump and re-eat all blocks, correct?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: that, or twiddle the relevant constant
ascii_field: (i forget precisely where. oughta be a patch!)
ben_vulpes: the only thing i'm aware of in the 'mainstream' codebasen is the "rescan" thinger, but that only looks for transactions relevant to the wallet
ben_vulpes: lol and completely absent from the usage message
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assbot: Logged on 16-07-2015 21:07:59; mats: if you hate something, thats fine, but i expect specific and reasoned judgment; its well and good to despise node.js, or javascript, or c++, but i catch a funny smell in here when folks more or less coopt the opinions of their perceived betters
trinque: and if the opinion is justified and the hate remains?
trinque: anyhow, the thread thereafter addressed it.
ascii_field: 'In addition to the ACPI feature, remote wake-up (including AMD Magic Packet and Microsoft Wake-up frame) is supported in both ACPI and APM (Advanced Power Management) environments. To support WOL from a deep power down state (e.g., D3cold, i.e., main power is off and only auxiliary exists), the auxiliary power source must be able to provide the needed power... ...The RTL8111E supports Protocol offload. It offloads some
ascii_field: of the most common protocols to NIC hardware in order to prevent spurious wake up and further reduce power consumption. The RTL8111E can offload ARP (IPv4) and NS (IPv6) protocols while in the D3 power saving state. '
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mircea_popescu: hey ben_vulpes trinque do i have this right, you mostly make apple store games ?
ag3nt_zer0: hey trinque fine just trying to install eulora here... you?
trinque: mircea_popescu: nah, I do web turds
ben_vulpes: except insofar as vc-backed shartups are games
ben_vulpes: ios and android and webturd "engineering" horsepower as a service
ben_vulpes: if someone were so foolish as to want to pay us to build a game we could
ben_vulpes: everything from promotional apps to apps for insurance companies to internal business process web applications
ag3nt_zer0: do I need to be in particular directory for this to work? "You'll need to install several support libraries via MacPorts. Run sudo port install (package-name) for all of the packages in the first two lists here." - I enter this and it says Error port opengl not found
mircea_popescu: what'd cost me for you to make the eulora client into an ipad app ?
mircea_popescu: but only if you actually can do the whole chain, i don't wish to touch apple. so if yo ucan get it into their store thing etc.
ben_vulpes: yeah generally the first thing we ask for is root on your apple account
mircea_popescu: i do not have an apple account nor would be getting one.
ascii_field will be rather surprised if the thing passes the censors
ben_vulpes: i do have some understanding of how you work
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 yes you do, but that doesn't sound like a wrong directory problem
ben_vulpes: first thing to be aware of is that if it has anything to do with bitcoin and transacting stuff it's going to be a bitch to get past the 'reviewers'
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: I am in home directory, where should I be?
mircea_popescu: i personally never got a mac. best everyone knows is in the wiki, you reading that ?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: macports doesn't care what directory you're in
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: try doing a sudo port selfupdate first?
ascii_field: speaking of all of this, i realized not long ago that one could easily do a 'pogo' for some shitablet or other
trinque: yeah, with external storage?
trinque: pretty sure all tablet makers still charge out the ass for more than a pittance of storage
ascii_field: (often needs a cheap mechanical adapter from 'micro' to female 'a')
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60250 @ 0.00051453 = 31.0004 BTC [-] {3}
ag3nt_zer0: well sent a pm to phf hopefully he can help...
ben_vulpes: makes the eyes bleed, but lulzy nevertheless
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: they make micro-usb to usb adapters that plug into the charger port
williamdunne: Oh wrong about charging part, that's to power whatever is plugged in via usb, lame
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day
jurov: it's named "on the go" connector
jurov: and yes, it's not for 24/7
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: it's a lul by the fella who wrote 'lisp is not an acceptable lisp'
ascii_field: i have hardware powered by 'usb otg' jacks going 24/7...
jurov: the droid acts as usb host and it is supposed to provide power
jurov: you'll have to recharge it some other way then
ascii_field: i ordered a 'miracast' last week, would have tested this already, but it was delayed in the post
jurov: i have proposed to use n900's in such manner, less shitty and more OSS than droids, was immediately shot down
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00053729 = 9.0533 BTC [+]
jurov: seems we are getting desperate :)
ascii_field: jurov: not so much desperate as the fact that i found a device available for $10-15 ~NEW~ from cn, with 256 (or even 512) MB of ram
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51250 @ 0.00054542 = 27.9528 BTC [+] {3}
ag3nt_zer0: anyone have any thoughts on the Jolla?
williamdunne: 00:06:08 - gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day <<< isn't that what #b-a is anyway? At least that's how I'm trying to use it.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.0005507 = 17.3471 BTC [+]
jurov: ^ just found this pogo sibling. but nowhere they say how much mem does it have
ascii_field: (as far as i can tell, they're extinct ...?)
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ascii_field: which is what is in my 'hootoo', costing less than half
jurov: 32? then yes, expensive
ascii_field: (we are, sadly, nowhere near the point where we can live in 32)
jurov: back to pogo, all mSATA drives i see are 5-6cm long and impossible to fit inside
jurov: what's supposed to go there at all?
jurov: ah. so msata won't fit?
ascii_field: the naked pcb thing is what is normally called 'msata'
jurov: but 2.5" drive won't fit
ascii_field: did you remove the dust cover from the pogo ?
jurov: only with top cover completely off and pcb bare
ascii_field: don't strip the pcb, you need the plastic cradle
ascii_field: if you have a peculiar drive that won't sit down in the cradle - post photo ?
jurov: so you say Kingston SSDNow V300 2.5" drive will fit in the slit? that's not possible
ascii_field: that is precisely the shape of the drive sitting in mine
jurov: can you post photo of whole setup?
jurov: that drive is 7cm wide and the slit in the cover is only 4.5cm
ascii_field: jurov: you must have something very odd going on. plz post pic
jurov: oh i get it now. the connector protrudes out of the cover
jurov: danielpbarron: how much free space you have left?
mircea_popescu: so the procuraderia de la nacion, which is basiucally the da's office, has this gated off entryway. in that entryway, stored two meters from the grating, eight five gallon plastic containers full of gasoline.
mircea_popescu: nevermind that i dunno where it's even legal to store gasoline in plastic.
mircea_popescu: anyone can be a terrorist for the price of a quarter dollar cigar.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field in eu you can go to jail for doing that. gotta use metal.