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danielpbarron: !up popmechanic
BingoBoingo: Hello popmechanic
popmechanic: Greetings:)
BingoBoingo: Hello
BingoBoingo: Anything in particular bring you here today?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68600 @ 0.00052484 = 36.004 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Avalon Jeff falls to senility https://archive.is/L3paQ
assbot: SwagPokerz comments on BIP 102: Increase block size limit to 2MB on Nov 11, 2015. by jgarzik · Pull Request #6451 · bitcoin/bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oih8ZJ )
popmechanic: Michael Goldstein referenced this channel on Twitter today. I hadn’t heard of it and am interested in Bitcoin so I thought I’d lurk for, oh, 6 months or so;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68194 @ 0.00054844 = 37.4003 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: popmechanic: Sounds like a solid plan. Probably would be prudent to register. The you can self voice to ask questions. WHen asking questions you will probably get links which will lead you to the golden six months of logs to read.
Adlai: !h
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
popmechanic: !register 48802F831BAFC232A26C974A0DA5926BC6E7BDCF
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 48802F831BAFC232A26C974A0DA5926BC6E7BDCF. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key C6E7BDCF / "keybase.io/marcusestes <marcusestes@keybase.io>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
mats: oh lawd
mats: does keybase have your private key, popmechanic?
popmechanic: no
mats: ok good
BingoBoingo: popmechanic: DO you work for Keybase or do they just offer email addy's at their domain.
danielpbarron: that means his key was generated in web browser via javascript, I think
popmechanic: Apparently they just offer email addresses? Not sure, first time I’ve used the service. I totally understand and am prepared to agree with a predjudice against a service like this, because they’re going to end up sitting on private keys. But it’s optional, and actually a pretty handy way to manage a few aspects of PGP management.
popmechanic: Correct, I believe the key is generated client side.
trinque: eh if it was generated in a browser it's still unsafe
trinque: how can you be sure you're running the JS they intended? (or that their JS intends well)
danielpbarron: it is possible to make your own key offline through keybase but I just don't see the point
BingoBoingo: popmechanic: What OS are you on? Javascript RNGs are notoriously unsafe. As unsafe as Pirate Party RNGs
popmechanic: Mac OS
mats: popmechanic: piling on a bit here, but i suggest running it through Phuctor, a service that attempts to factor keys with weak moduli -- http://nosuchlabs.com
BingoBoingo: popmechanic: Do you run Mac Ports?
mats: to date, Phuctor has broken 300+ keys. see: http://nosuchlabs.com/stats
popmechanic: I do, yes.
BingoBoingo: popmechanic: Build GPG, preferably a 1.4.x series version and do the key generation thing again
BingoBoingo: !up popmechanic
Adlai: mats: i'm not sure you're reading that quite right
BingoBoingo: mats: Phuctor broke 95. The duplicate modulus is a different kind of warning than broken
danielpbarron: !up hazirafel
mats: oops
BingoBoingo: mats: happens
scoopbot_revived: Limits of Moore's Law Challenge Intel - Questions About Future Performance http://qntra.net/2015/07/limits-of-moores-law-challenge-intel-questions-about-future-performance/ ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00054866 = 28.9418 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110900 @ 0.00054446 = 60.3806 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: received block 0000000000000000123a
asciilifeform: REORGANIZE
asciilifeform: l0l
BingoBoingo: https://voat.co/v/bitcoin/comments/295882
assbot: Checking your bits ... ( http://bit.ly/1HBU4AC )
BingoBoingo: OH SHIT REORG
asciilifeform: eh, sop
asciilifeform: just lulzy to see it when i randomly chanced to look at the latest crud scrolling by.
asciilifeform: sorta like phosphenes
asciilifeform: normally those happen once in a blue moon, largely for entirely harmless reasons, but,
asciilifeform: when one is being irradiated to death, sees quite a few of'em
asciilifeform: (or so i was told)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162500 @ 0.00052823 = 85.8374 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: This is indeed an irradiating time
BingoBoingo: !up TheRealJohnGalt
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Telco+214+Inc/@28.04003,-80.595088,3a,75y,3.38h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1supX6Yd_ND2dyvMRDvs96Yw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x88de12494bab5cdb:0x6c83f4d824af9701!6m1!1e1?hl=en << usg miner
assbot: Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3zkGj )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That's a big dish
asciilifeform: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-206-397-1975/4#p633425372283376590 << also lulzy rumour turd re: 'telco 214'
assbot: Getting calls from 206-397-1975? 4/9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3zJZr )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu didja ever write a piece about bernie cornfeld (1927-1995) ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: what does this 'reorg' business imply
asciilifeform: forklet
asciilifeform: more lulz, http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=EntityName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=TELCO214US%20P970000566471&aggregateId=domp-p97000056647-66b1a73f-30ca-492d-9daf-a39cf89e72cb&searchTerm=Telco%20214%20Us%2C%20Inc.&listNameOrder=TELCO214US%20P970000566471
assbot: Detail by Entity Name ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3ANwq )
asciilifeform: and in particular, http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/ConvertTiffToPDF?storagePath=COR1%5C2003%5C0421%5C80916068.Tif&documentNumber=P97000056647
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3AOjK )
asciilifeform: amendment. change name from 'IBSA, US, Inc' to 'Telco 214 US, Inc'. March 13, '03
asciilifeform: neither had any detectable public presence.
asciilifeform: (other than the earlier link)
decimation: asciilifeform: what do these companies do?
asciilifeform: reminiscent of nothing more than the faux airlines used by cia
asciilifeform: decimation: 'telco 214' is the owner of a single ip which houses, as far as i can tell, at least 2% of current net hash. ☟︎☟︎
decimation: lulz
asciilifeform: (why not parcel it through sp4mz0rpr0x13z!!111 like everybody else? damned if i know)
mats: heh, how did you come upon this?
decimation: https://www.google.com/maps/place/2571+Kirby+Cir+NE,+Palm+Bay,+FL+32905 < check out their 'principle place of business' listed in their annual report
assbot: Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kaa5AY )
asciilifeform: mats: sheer accident
asciilifeform: decimation: linked earlier
decimation: massive satellite dishes, multiple
decimation: biggest one is 12m according to google earth
asciilifeform: http://whomined.com/#miner/37
asciilifeform cannot comment on the quality of this survey, but it is not uninteresting
asciilifeform: http://cpsociety.org/thomas-ndomb << lulzy. the one other public mention of 'telco 214' i've found so far.
assbot: Thomas Ndomb « Cameroon Professional Society (CPS) Inc ... ( http://bit.ly/1KaaNhq )
asciilifeform: https://openvpn.net/index.php/about-menu/advisory-board.html << and.
assbot: Advisory Board ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kab2cj )
mats: http://defcon.ws luls
assbot: DEF CON Cancellation: An Open Letter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kab5oK )
decimation: lemme see if I can figure out which satellite the minor dishes are pointed at
asciilifeform: 'Mr. Haba was Founder and Chief Technology Officer of Telco 214, an emerging leader in the international voice market that was successful in winning large market share from AT&T, MCI and Sprint. Mr. Haba began his career at Symetrics Industries, a publicly traded defense communications and computer telephony integrator....'
asciilifeform: ^ the fl gov paperwork mentions haba
asciilifeform: he was one of the two founding partners.
mats: "I believe that we are in a post-hacker world ... We should strive to be professionals, making the Internet a safer place rather than exposing vulnerabilities that can be leveraged by criminals and terrorists. This is why I'm going to encourage you to attend professional security conferences like Black Hat, RSA, SANS and others"
asciilifeform: l0l!!
asciilifeform: Had Problemz!!
asciilifeform: 'Professionals have professional credentials. If you want to participate in the security industry, you should obtain the appropriate certifications. ISC2, SANS, EC-Council and many vendors offer well regarded security certifications. '
asciilifeform: 'I know there has been concerning news about the NSA overstepping its bounds regarding data collection and the US government's lack of action. I have worked closely with many government officials. What may appear as an erosion of our constitutional rights, are actually programs critically important to the safety of our country. Without the NSA data gathering programs, there would have already been a "Cyber 9/11". Unfortunately
asciilifeform: , I can't reveal the details to support this statement but, knowing my honestly and character, you'll have to take me at my word. '
asciilifeform: trol0l0l0l
mats: DEFCON is not canceled, this is satire, for any casual observers
asciilifeform: took me 30 sec or so
asciilifeform: my first hypothesis was 'fella got truecrypted'
decimation: asciilifeform: the northern two dishes appear to be pointed toward a heading of 107 degrees (true)
decimation: that would line them up with Intelsat 905
asciilifeform: l0l!
asciilifeform: !b 3 ✂︎
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3KZ6Y7E.txt )
decimation: it's easier than you would think to figure this out http://www.dishpointer.com/
assbot: Satellite Finder / Dish Alignment Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1KabFTs )
decimation: could also be SES-4
asciilifeform: it is not difficult, where i come from it was done with paper and pen
decimation: unfortunately the 12 meter dish is pointing up (probably 'safed') so I can't determine its bearing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00054878 = 28.5914 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: not like you can hide a four-tonne tub of shit in orbit
decimation: at any rate here's its orbital footprint http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/footprints/Intelsat-905-Global.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KabY0k )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43414 @ 0.00055299 = 24.0075 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: consistent with 'spam phones for africa'
decimation: it has spot beams that cover africa, europe - and here's its 'public transponder listing' http://www.lyngsat.com/Intelsat-905.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3CzgW )
asciilifeform: (the nominal business profile, to the extent one is known)
decimation: http://www.loral.com/inthenews/020605.html "Each of the new Intelsat IX series satellites carries 76 C-band and 22 Ku-band operating transponders (in 36 MHz equivalents), and its solar arrays will generate more than 8.6 kilowatts of power (beginning of life)."
decimation: plenty of bandwidth for an african isp
asciilifeform: sounds like they're speaking of analogue bandwidth, to be fair
decimation: yes, of course
decimation: but they typically use 8 or 4 psk in those analog segments
asciilifeform: from 'intelsat' www, it would appear that they serve nigerian sp4mz0r and homeland severity alike
decimation: the lyngsat page says that at least two of the 30 MHz transponders are dedicated to AOL
decimation: employing "ACM" which apparently switches between 4psk and 16 qam, which would allow a gross throughput of approx 60-120 megabit/sec
decimation: per 30 mhz channel
decimation: now, if these folks are running miners, the question is 'why over sat link'
asciilifeform: https://ipinfo.io/AS35863
assbot: AS35863 Telco 214, Inc. - ipinfo.io ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3DgqG )
asciilifeform: and who said it was over satlink
decimation: well, that office doesn't look like a very big data center
decimation: also, did you note the military looking vehicles in their parking lot?
asciilifeform: i only see ordinary cars
asciilifeform: 4 of'em
asciilifeform: (google 'street' dated april '11)
decimation: no, look in the back of the lot
decimation: you can see on streeview from the east side
asciilifeform: link?
decimation: I donno if you can link streetview
asciilifeform: sure you can
decimation: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.04002,-80.594633,3a,15y,350.65h,88.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szEyWP8_Z1sLrfJUNbmMH6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
assbot: Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kae1l2 )
asciilifeform: l0l aha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35512 @ 0.00055305 = 19.6399 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Telco+214+Inc/@28.0411393,-80.5949096,217m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x6c83f4d824af9701!6m1!1e1
assbot: Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1KaezY6 )
asciilifeform: entirely plausible that mr spamphone likes buying surplus.
decimation: yeah, that's my first guess too
decimation: an odd business anyway
decimation: it's odd they have such a massive dish too
asciilifeform: i've passed up opportunities to own a truck quite like that, on account of having nowhere to keep it
decimation: it's possible they use the massive dish to hit geo stuff that's very low on the horizon
decimation: but that dish would cost a couple $ mil easy
decimation: one wild theory: this isp and its hangers-on are 'owned' by some tinpot dictator in africa
decimation: who also has access to 'free' electricity - which he uses to mine
decimation: nigeria, for example, is drowning in cheap crude oil - could be 'diverted' to power someone's bitcoin mining operation
decimation: for what reason God only knows
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> entirely plausible that mr spamphone likes buying surplus. << I remember in the old Tom Clancy novels his various supposed NatSec agencies being funded by "spamzors" and their financial equivalent.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not afaik.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i've passed up opportunities to own a truck quite like that, on account of having nowhere to keep it << Truck like that keeps itself
decimation: ??? how
BingoBoingo: decimation: How does truck keep self?
decimation: yeah? rusts, burns oil
mircea_popescu: crude oil is not realy useful to power an electric plant.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144950 @ 0.00054623 = 79.176 BTC [-] {4}
decimation: sure, if you don't give a shit about nasty emissions
mircea_popescu: nah. gotta appreciate, power plants are products of industry like anything else
mircea_popescu: plenty of models made to run onm the heavy stuff left after gas distillation
mircea_popescu: none of them run on crude, not since 1880 at any rate.
mircea_popescu: putting gasoline in a diesel engine is not unlike putting crude oil in a tar or coal plant.
mircea_popescu: and obv the naturasl gas models won't burn it
BingoBoingo: decimation: I was more thinking about how such vehicles create space for themselves.
decimation: mircea_popescu: ships, big power plants run on heavy fuel oil
BingoBoingo: Sure, but heavy oil is not crude
decimation: www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/01/nigerias-illegal-oil-refineries/100439/ < they literally refine it in jungle conditions
TomServo: In other news, I noticed this blurb on the OpenBSD octeon page today: "In June 2015 USB support was added which finally allowed installing to local disk on machines lacking a CF slot."
BingoBoingo: TomServo: Cool
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-07-2015#1195719 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 21:57:04; decimation: https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg138968.html < ah well then I am pleased to annouce that apparently openbsd will be supporting oceton usb in the very near future
TomServo: The docs don't exactly reflect it, but I can confirm the snapshot of 5.8 does see and boot from usb.
decimation: TomServo: did you install directly onto usb?
BingoBoingo: Nice, made it in before 5.8 hit Beta this week
decimation: or did you write image from another computer?
TomServo: Booted via tftp, installed from there
decimation: ah, thanks for the good report
TomServo: np
TomServo: excited to have just gotten my first console on the edgerouter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70789 @ 0.00055363 = 39.1909 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: so the 5.8 release will probably be in the autumn sometime?
decimation: http://www.utahrails.net/up/bunker-c.php < interesting discussion on bunker-c fuel oil
assbot: Union Pacific, Bunker 'C' ... ( http://bit.ly/1fOkAA2 )
TomServo: November, if I recall correctly.
decimation: "Most oil-fired steam locomotives used Bunker C, although in some parts of the country they actually burned raw crude oil. As noted before, Bunker C was readily available and dirt cheap. (Steve Lee, April 18, 2000, via email to The Streamliner discussion group)"
BingoBoingo: decimation: November
decimation: https://powergen.gepower.com/plan-build/products/gas-turbines/9e-03-gas-turbine.html < would burn in something like this
assbot: 9E.03 / 9E.04 Gas Turbine (50 Hz) | GE Power ... ( http://bit.ly/1fOkVTo )
BingoBoingo: decimation: Point releases happen in May and November on the first
decimation: BingoBoingo: ah thanks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44551 @ 0.00055454 = 24.7053 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: there are some "universal fuel" power generators, mostly marketed to end user derps ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because who the fuck else would not know what fuel he wants to burn
mircea_popescu: in any case the generality comes at an efficiency cost.
decimation: well, a turbine can burn anything. but it's true that if you are burning raw crude it will foul your turbine and require much more maintenance
decimation: because of all the solvents and other shit in the oil
decimation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_GTELs < us railroads used to run these right through the middle of the countryside, belching foul shit
assbot: Union Pacific GTELs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1fOmIro )
BingoBoingo: They still run through the middle of my countryside, still belch foul shit
decimation: yeah but probably all diesel now
decimation: it seems the real problem with burning crude or heavy fuel oil is that if you have enough civilization to refine the oil, you can make it into much more profitable products
decimation: the net effect being that the amount of 'heavy fuel' (bunker b and c) has shrunk compared to old process - making it more expensive than just using diesel
decimation: this isn't really true in areas that have no advanced refining available
mircea_popescu: soo... imo musk's electric car has failed to reach the sort of growth patterns and penetration goals it needed to survive. it therefore peaked sometime last year, and it will go the same way all the numerous attempts at an electric car since the 20s have went.
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna enter into a tesla stock swap with me /
mircea_popescu: ?
decimation: lul
decimation: you should make a F.DERP for it?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204022 << the ultimate such is said to be... 'abrams' tank. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 03:03:55; mircea_popescu: there are some "universal fuel" power generators, mostly marketed to end user derps
asciilifeform: which burns, iirc, ten litres, just to start
decimation: asciilifeform: yes, but could probably run on 'jungle oil' if it isn't solidified
mircea_popescu: there is good reason to build a universal engine into a tank intended for 1950s style attreition war.
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Union_Pacific_first_generation_GTEL_locomotive_1953.JPG << electric car, ftr.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1fOop8j )
mircea_popescu: 1923 Detroit Electric.
asciilifeform: late in the game, too
asciilifeform: height of electromobile was 1890s
mircea_popescu: (exactly the hipster car of today, incdentally. marketed to women and doctors, had curved glass panes, etc)
decimation: honestly elon musk strikes me as a highbrow scammer
decimation: he's figured out how to sell 'dreams' in exchange for usg subsidy and hype
mircea_popescu: this is the case of all us "entrepreneurs" active today.
mircea_popescu: what's mark cuban ?
decimation: to be fair, he does deliver products - rockets, cars, etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: musk is different in the sense of not running the usual 'populist' chumpatron
mircea_popescu: scammed yahoo out of a billion, once
mircea_popescu: made 100 different decisions since, 100 of which were wrong.
decimation: but the economic prospects appear highly dubious
mircea_popescu: a man batting < 1% is certainly not possessed of a clue in the field.
asciilifeform: yet he sleeps ad libitum.
mircea_popescu: all idiots sleep well.
mircea_popescu: that's the mark of idiocy.
asciilifeform: sorta the converse of the usual 'if yer so smart, why aitcha rich' line
asciilifeform: 'if he's such a moron, why does he sleep ad libitum and has no fear of having to do honest wurk'
asciilifeform: ditto branson
mircea_popescu: lol branson, another fine example.
mircea_popescu: he's the business world equivalent of a russian prison whore.
mircea_popescu: every cock was in his asshole.
asciilifeform: yet no matter what these folks do, they never seem to end up begging for change
asciilifeform: or washing cars
asciilifeform: 'wouldn't do', to have royalty besmirched thus
mircea_popescu: msot of them do, yes.
mircea_popescu: the substantial difference between the subset here named and the rest of the set consisting of various reddit experts and your spamming friend has nothing to do with them
asciilifeform: re: oils: was very surprised to discover english (!) piece, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazut
assbot: Mazut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTrt98 )
mircea_popescu: some earthworms find incredible caches of forgotten artefacts. doth not qualify them as archeologists.
mats: tesla doesn't sell electric cars
mats: they sell batteries and infrastructure
mircea_popescu: romania has a bunch of these "intreprinzatori de carton", ie, cardboard entrepreneurs. one notable case (currently in jail) got to keep ~2bn worth of romanian govt money in 1989, on condition of supporting his friends.
mircea_popescu: kept getting 3-500mn/year after that
mircea_popescu: never actually supported anyone worth a squat and is now ~broke
decimation: mats: ?? they have dealer rooms?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42750 @ 0.0005594 = 23.9144 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are sop in the orc world, ru being perhaps the absolute epicentre. but in usa they are especially lulzy on account of the elaborate presences of 'doing business'
mats: that was hyperbolic but you see my point yes?
mircea_popescu: mats the offer stands, you know.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just as ellaborate on the other side.
mats: hey, didn't say i'd bet against you
mircea_popescu: catering to different expecations, yes, but anyway
mats: they are massively overvalued right now and i would not be interested in taking the other side
mircea_popescu: aha.
mats: decimation: http://www.cnet.com/news/teslas-elon-musk-introduces-beautiful-money-saving-home-battery-back-up-system etc
assbot: Tesla's Elon Musk introduces 'beautiful' money-saving home battery backup system - CNET ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTs0I1 )
decimation: yes, note that this battery system costs many times more than lead-acid
decimation: thus appealing to the kinds of people who want to store electricity but don't care about how much things cost
trinque: I've seen a great many Solar City fliers around, speaking of Musk.
trinque: (in Portland)
trinque: hilariously, these would be useless during the rainy season
asciilifeform: decimation: who 'doesn't care what it costs' - uses pumped hydro
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes they produce cars, and the model s sold a whopping... 75k units
decimation: trinque: they also rely heavily on subsidy
mircea_popescu: that's exactly detroit electric volume touched up for the intervening century.
trinque: decimation: certainly, and loose financing
mats: asciilifeform: yes, and all usable sources have already been dammed
asciilifeform: mats: ~pumped~
asciilifeform: as in, gigantic bottles.
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business.
asciilifeform: mats: energy storage.
mats: oh, right. up and down hills and mountains.
mats: i forgot how efficient it is
asciilifeform: beats li ion
asciilifeform: and the water - doesn't wear out after 200 cycles
decimation: yeah, as in pumping to high lake and draining when needed, like this plant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinorwig_Power_Station
assbot: Dinorwig Power Station - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTskGR )
mats: fuck, people are still setting off fireworks in my area
asciilifeform: usg actually had (has?) some chick leading a crackpot mains current to hydrocarbon (yes, electrolysis + oddball catalysts) mega-wunderwaffen dept. in the navy
asciilifeform: no idea if it ever came up with a working nuke-to-petrol magic box.
decimation: asciilifeform: whatever for?
decimation: lol
decimation: if you wanna waste electricity like that, might as well just split water and use hydrogen
asciilifeform: fueling up jets from seawater + nuke plant, was the notion.
asciilifeform: can't do worth shit with h2
asciilifeform: certainly not in a jet
decimation: yeah at least not in any existing ones
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.0005649 = 14.9134 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: anything involving gaseous h2 is the archetypical 'assembly line for ph.d.'
asciilifeform: ever seen a hose for liquid h ?
decimation: heh I've seen pictures
mats: any idea what fuels modern jets? certainly not jp-9 anymore?
mircea_popescu: just about.
asciilifeform: iirc same thing everyone else burns
decimation: kerosene, more or less
mircea_popescu: iirc the "ethanol jet" thing got canned
asciilifeform: jp-a
mats: >A kerosene-based fuel, JP-8 is projected to remain in use at least until 2025. It was first introduced at NATO bases in 1978. Its NATO code is F-34.
mats: how about that. late 70s tech still keeping the lights on.
decimation: sure, turbine burns kerosene just fine
asciilifeform: fuels haven't really changed (for the better) in a century.
decimation: you could also burn 'heavy fuel oil' in theory, but that's not a terribly great idea in a high reliablity application
asciilifeform: (for worse? sure! where i live, what comes out of the filling station is 10% ethanol ~by law~)
decimation: but the abrams tank would burn jp-8 just fine
asciilifeform: it will burn restaurant grease
asciilifeform: by some accounts
decimation: yeah, probably anything that will run through the pumps
BingoBoingo: Conde Nast & Obama https://archive.is/XLc4K
assbot: Condé Nast's CFO Tried To Pay $2,500 for a Night With a Gay Porn Star ... ( http://bit.ly/1fOs1qT )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0005649 = 5.2536 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: something liek that
mircea_popescu: the alternative was also unpalatable tho. you don't want to engage in a bidding war with the dying gm/ford thing for their lasty remaining shred of relevancy
mircea_popescu: you'll end up overpaying.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49750 @ 0.00054734 = 27.2302 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in any case, as a fun tidbit : the 2010 tesla ipo, first us carmaker ipo since ww2, came to half the recently reported plenty of fish sale
asciilifeform: thing is, gm/ford vs tesla is a 'best horse in the glue factory' contest
asciilifeform: american automobility has a very short life expectancy as a going concern
mircea_popescu: (plenty of fish being the 5th or so dating site sold in a decade, which "Dating site" is the twelfth or so wheel on the social media band wagon)
decimation: the only american autos that 'actual people' buy are trunks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform precisely.
decimation: trucks
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> but this brings us back to the question of whether mr s has ~intellectual authority~ << intellectual authority is a very simple thing in capitalism. see it at work in how the "blockchain size increase" was tranched : once someone says "this is how much it costs", the derps willing to talk were separated from the people willing to pay.
mircea_popescu: on a tinier scale, just happened above re tesla, too.
decimation: yeah, but what market? the 950/1000 block rule?
mircea_popescu: in the end, it reduces to "does he have the intellectual authority to bluff". well... do you have the intellectual authority to call it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unless i misunderstood, your implication in earlier thread was that satoshi (in the person of his key) could pop up, propose some arbitrary strange, and have such carry weight on account of him being the famous satoshi
mircea_popescu: decimation i mean the original, end of 2014/2015 dispute, about "herp derp we'll raise the block limit"
decimation: ah yes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you misunderstood.
mircea_popescu: satoshi could pop up, propose some arbitrary strange, and have everyone (everyone that matters, ie, with money!) presented with the dilemma : do they buy up the stash ? or do they move on to the strange ?
mircea_popescu: this is the only legitimate way to resolve disputes.
mircea_popescu: if his strange sucks, he has nothing to stand on.
mircea_popescu: if his strange does not suck, you can keep talking about its strangeness all you want.
asciilifeform: but suppose that it is something quite like bitcoin circa '09.
trinque: it would be an incredible thing if the man has the keys and has shown this much restraint
asciilifeform: which did not suck (at least mathematically) in any particularly discernible way
mircea_popescu: trinque not that incredible.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all i can say is i'd consider it fully.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, not even the us supreme court rules without a case.
asciilifeform: 'does not suck' today, i dare say, is a higher bar than in '09, when there was no bitcoin
mircea_popescu: surely.
asciilifeform: and no $maxint pumped into the storage battery
mircea_popescu: on that point can there be no debate
mircea_popescu: but 5bn is NO SORT OF MAXINT
asciilifeform: ^ point
mircea_popescu: it's a minint in this game.
decimation: ^ yes, bitcoin is still peanuts
asciilifeform: esp. given as it is denominated in zimbabwean unit
decimation: which satoshi realizes, of course
asciilifeform: (i.e. there are probably not 5bn 'turkey-buying-capable' dollars on planet)
mircea_popescu: complicated matters.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm off. cheerios.
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asciilifeform had a thought: possibly, if satoshi's stash were ~larger~ than it is, he could be considered 'beyond reproach' if he were to surface and propose a fork, on the logic that he could not stand to gain from any deception. but it still would not rule out usgification, or simple error.
asciilifeform: at the risk of beating the record of mircea_popescu's pessimism on the subject of 'future bitcoin': i currently suspect that protocol change might be the proverbial 'stone so heavy, god cannot lift'
asciilifeform: not because it is impossible to devise improved mechanisms - but on account of the 'pascal's wager' involved
trinque: him staying silent during things like the blocksize "debate" speaks volumes imo
mats: or perhaps he reads the logs.
trinque: dunno how someone who was paranoid enough to never speak his own name would allow gavin and company to crawl all over his greatest work
mats: howssat for a political coup
asciilifeform: or was long found, and silenced.
trinque: or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron ☟︎
trinque: who knows
trinque: "they can have it if they do not break it"
mats: though on last check he seemed to be more likely to be aligned with gavin (bitcoin for the people, etc)
asciilifeform: fella runs winblowz
trinque: too bad if so
asciilifeform: usg could find him inside an hour by, e.g., issuing an xp 'update'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56561 @ 0.00053548 = 30.2873 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: yeah, I have to say I find him having been found as the most likely
asciilifeform: if this - then we can conclude that he had the backbone to pull the pin
asciilifeform: (and if not, we will likely learn about it soon enough)
trinque: if he is the VS/winderz derp, how is it that he generated unbreakable keys?
trinque: fuck knows I don't know how to approach it if he did
asciilifeform: trinque: go, break the other winblowz schmucks' keys
trinque: but *someone* ?
trinque: if one guy at the NSA is the only one who can...
trinque shrugs
trinque: what I'm saying is that runs contrary to the derp theory
asciilifeform: trinque: i won't comment on meta-nsa, but classic nsa works on statistical aggregates rather than individuals - at least when dealing with mass collections rather than targeted shots
asciilifeform: no one 'has all keys'
trinque: yeah
trinque: I read all day about how intel's backdoored, mobo's backdoored, so on so on
trinque: and yet his keys are safe
trinque: or at least would appear to be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9135 @ 0.00055481 = 5.0682 BTC [+]
trinque: I suppose he could be the windows derp and still know to at least use a separate airgapped box for the keys
asciilifeform: again the 'all keys' thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: not how it works
asciilifeform: mr s was not yet famous and hated in '09
trinque: I was not around for the early days
asciilifeform: not necessary
trinque: but I take your point; there wouldn't have been reason to target someone like him until doing so wouldn't have mattered
asciilifeform: but must understand, the more exotic the diddle, the more of a (to borrow mircea_popescu's term) 'glass cannon'
trinque: mhm, fire once
asciilifeform: picture if i am sitting here and i see it
asciilifeform: (and chances are, i will, l0l) ☟︎
asciilifeform: spent.
asciilifeform: one may speculate all day re: the particulars of usg 'glass artillery', but it suffices to say that such is not fired at a crowd
asciilifeform: (there is a kind of 'valley' in between the ordinary weaponry and the 'glass' - e.g., tor diddles which would 'expire' immediately if publicly revealed, but are good for plenty of 'parallel construction' meanwhile, etc.)
trinque: right, say there's a decent way to do factoring. I think I pulled that one from your blog
asciilifeform: but the point i was trying to make is that your cpu is not transmitting to the proverbial black helicopter 24/7
trinque: certainly
asciilifeform: trinque: aha. archetypical 'glass cannon.'
trinque: put plainly, watching phuctor phuck, I'd thought that there surely must be some way of doing the same thing on badly generated bitcoin addresses
asciilifeform: trinque: this was done. for 'android' wallet of one kind or another ☟︎
asciilifeform: re-used 'k'
trinque: ah
asciilifeform: fella walked with a good bit of coin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80700 @ 0.00056534 = 45.6229 BTC [+] {2}
mats: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/07/16/egyptian-navy-vessel-ablaze-after-catching-fire-while-docked-off-sinai-northern
assbot: ISIS says it destroyed Egyptian ship with rocket | Fox News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxqvU2 )
mats: https://ent.siteintelgroup.com/Jihadist-News/is-sinai-province-claims-destroying-egyptian-frigate-in-mediterranean.html source
assbot: IS’ Sinai Province Claims Destroying Egyptian Frigate in Mediterranean | Jihadist News | Articles ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mxqyzj )
mats: http://imgur.com/a/W9mQt stills ☟︎
assbot: Sinai Islamic State attack on Egyptian Navy Ship, Rafah - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxqCis )
asciilifeform: notbad.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00057055 = 16.8312 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/10/first-slaying-on-dc-metro-in-its-40-year-history-witnesses-watched-but-didnt << linked from same
assbot: First slaying on DC Metro in its 40-year history: Witnesses watched but didn't intervene | Fox News ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoMFsX )
mats: matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO ☟︎
decimation: well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile ☟︎
mats: iirc older .ru ATGMs have a range of ~5km
asciilifeform: i'd be quite surprised if anyone has ever hit a boat-sized target with these from even 1km
mats: easy enough to maneuver a series of boats into range if not firing from the coast
decimation: asciilifeform: where did that stabbing take place?
asciilifeform: claims - in a train
mats: http://cembu.ru/view-video/O3bVUyJKxpk/compilation-of-over-100-atgm-shots-in-syria.html
assbot: Download Video Compilation of Over 100 ATGM Shots In Syria (36min 40sec) in 3GP, MP4, FLV and WEBM Format - Cembu.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxrwLX )
asciilifeform: but does not say where the train was
decimation: ah, apparently wapo reported in their 'metro' section http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dr-gridlock/wp/2015/02/04/stabbing-reported-on-metro-train-at-federal-center-sw/
assbot: Stabbing reported on Metro train at Federal Center SW - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxrAeO )
decimation: it apparently happened at l'enfant
mats: hard to tell but many of those targets look well over 3km
asciilifeform: mats: neato
decimation: "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. " ☟︎
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/victim-in-metro-slaying-stabbed-repeatedly-during-robbery-on-train/2015/07/07/8dd09132-249b-11e5-b72c-2b7d516e1e0e_story.html
assbot: Horrified passengers witnessed brutal July 4 slaying aboard Metro car - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoOshS )
decimation: note: the victim was a skinny white guy
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asciilifeform: it is interesting that anyone still bothers to steal phones
mats: particularly dumb criminals, i suppose
mats: iirc some folks finally convinced carriers to disable stolen phones?
decimation: supposedly he was 'high' on 'synthetic marijuana'
mats: lol, 'spice' (research chemicals)?
decimation: http://wtop.com/dc/2015/07/metro-stabbing-unleashes-debate-should-passengers-have-helped-victim/ "Friends say Sutherland, a Connecticut native, loved advocating for progressive causes."
assbot: Metro stabbing unleashes debate: Should passengers have helped victim - WTOP ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoOSET )
asciilifeform was, somehow, labouring under the notion that murder was routine aboard dc metro. mainly by folks being pushed into the pit
asciilifeform: and that it was for this reason that it was not a common nyooz item.
decimation: asciilifeform: do you think metro could tell the difference between suicide and murder?
asciilifeform: for all i know, the above is the actual fact.
asciilifeform: decimation: why would they want to tell the difference.
decimation: asciilifeform: maybe because it took place on a moving train
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-investigate-homicide-at-parking-garage-of-wheaton-metro-stop/2015/07/15/9dc2fb6e-2ad8-11e5-a250-42bd812efc09_story.html < all kinds of murdering going on
assbot: Police say two in custody after fatal shooting at Wheaton Metro station - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoPavn )
asciilifeform: decimation: orc-orc
asciilifeform: hence not nyooz
decimation: asciilifeform: no, it's not a common news item (the murdering) because of 'advocates of progressive causes'
asciilifeform: orc-civvie - nyooz
decimation: kinda
decimation: civvie-orc - mega-ny00z
asciilifeform: civvie-orc - national 'day of genuflection, r4c1sm5!!!!!' nyooz
asciilifeform: aha
trinque: some kid made the funny papers the other day in portland
trinque: orc on orc I think it was
trinque: http://www.wgme.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/portland-police-make-arrest-fatal-old-port-shooting-28284.shtml
assbot: Portland police make an arrest in fatal Old Port shooting - WGME - Portland ME Top Stories - News, Sports, Weather, Traffic ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxsnfB )
trinque: this notion that "someone should've helped" is hilarious
trinque: how? human shield?
decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results ☟︎
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: perhaps b-a pushed it out.
asciilifeform: i can't seem to search for anything at all without turning up half a dozen b-a link turdz
asciilifeform: irrespective of proxy or cookieless wwwtron
asciilifeform: !up MoltenBosnia
decimation: I know he wrote about the splc and the right wing route to power
MoltenBosnia: hello
decimation: asciilifeform: also I note his comments seem to have more weight than the text
asciilifeform: who might you be, MoltenBosnia ?
MoltenBosnia: I have otc rating just gotta get laptop with keys running.
decimation: ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching." ☟︎
decimation: ^ why civvie-orc murdering is trumpeted
asciilifeform: everybody with even a cursory familiarity with landscape of daily life in usa, knows this
decimation: note that 'pathetic dork' seems to fit the description of that guy in charleston
asciilifeform: see the 1,001 'where are the smart t3rr0r1stz!!11' threads.
decimation: indeed.
asciilifeform: the smart generals are in their armchairs.
decimation: trinque: did you manage to make a copy of yarvin's blog?
trinque: I did
decimation: did you use that crawler deal?
trinque: yeah, the one iirc punkman recommended
trinque: worked fine
asciilifeform: http://moldbuggery.blogspot.com << indexed mirror
assbot: Moldbuggery ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoQw9C )
trinque: interface is a little goofy, but I got the files I wanted
asciilifeform: ^ also worth backing up
asciilifeform: if you're into mr mold
trinque: cool
decimation: apparently now is the time to acquire a copy, before it disappears forever into google's memory hole
decimation: for they surely do not wish to hold it
trinque: decimation: I am taking that attitude towards every piece of valuable information I find.
asciilifeform: wget -m
decimation: does it snip the comments?
asciilifeform: how would it.
mats: hm, some of the missiles fired in that video appear to have traveled more than 5km based on ~30s flight time
decimation: blogspot-specific shit
mats: apparently isis has some of the spiffier, longer range ATGMs
asciilifeform: donated by usg
decimation: either them or modern ru
asciilifeform: the latter charges
asciilifeform: usg - free
asciilifeform: wget of mr mold - 114MB, 16sec
decimation: heh nice
asciilifeform: notbad.
trinque: asciilifeform: mind if I eat loper-os too?
asciilifeform: trinque: eat, if you like
asciilifeform surprised that anyone needs it for anything
trinque: I am a student farther back on my lisp quest
trinque: helpful perspectives on that
asciilifeform: while we're on the subject, am i the only one somewhat dismayed that the one site that probably has no public backup is mircea_popescu's www ?
asciilifeform: (we all know why. and i'm gonna guess that he doesn't give a damn, 'nobody needed the library of alexandria for anything') ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00057436 = 7.8687 BTC [+]
decimation: ah, apparently the httrack widget creates an index as it copies
decimation: yeah, and to make a mirror would be a bit costly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79000 @ 0.00056712 = 44.8025 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: the cost per credit is quite reasonable
trinque: couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are ☟︎
trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission ☟︎☟︎
trinque: since there is are explicit terms right there on the site for use
trinque: *are
decimation: lul http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/naacp-wants-removal-confederate-generals-stone-mou/nmyKH/ "The Atlanta chapter of the NAACP officially called for the elimination of all symbols of the Confederacy from Stone Mountain."
assbot: NAACP wants removal of Confederate generals from Stone Mountain | www.wsbtv.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoSsyM )
decimation: for those who haven't seen it, it's a big rock cliff face with robert e lee, stonewall jackson, and jefferson davis
trinque: decimation: sort of an unsettling development, "progress" not satisfied until history never even happened
decimation: yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too ☟︎
trinque: I have been musing lately on the relationship between sovereignty, language/meaning creation, and delusional behavior such as this.
trinque: as though if you trust a weapon such as sovereignty to the wrong people, you get this nonsense
trinque: they blow their own heads off
decimation: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2815%2900671-5 "Here, we demonstrate that the three-dimensional geometry of cortical surface is highly predictive of individuals’ genetic ancestry in West Africa, Europe, East Asia, and America, even though their genetic background has been shaped by multiple waves of migratory and admixture events."
assbot: DEFINE_ME_WA ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoTkUc )
trinque: let me see if I can restate: the mechanism of modern american narcissism for example is precisely that the type of person walks around thinking they can simply declare things to be so, because they feel they ought to be
decimation: trinque: yes, what is happening in the west is akin to self-immolation of some kind
trinque: a leader does this same thing, but not as a sort of onanist
trinque: he declares meaning for a larger group
decimation: !up optimator
decimation: a traveler from the cloud
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108062 @ 0.00054869 = 59.2925 BTC [-] {5}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204373 << iirc that was in a mircea_popescu piece ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:12:55; decimation: yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too
mats: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/dcs-chinatown-has-only-300-chinese-americans-left--and-fighting-to-stay/2015/07/16/86d54e84-2191-11e5-bf41-c23f5d3face1_story.html
assbot: D.C.’s Chinatown has only 300 Chinese Americans left, and they’re fighting to stay. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoXtYd )
asciilifeform: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-del-ariana-kelly-arrested-for-indecent-exposure-trespassing/2015/07/14/06a29486-2a58-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html << linked, lulz
assbot: Maryland Del. Ariana Kelly charged with indecent exposure, trespassing - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoXUSg )
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mats: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2015/071615-international-report-confirms-2014-was-earths-warmest-year-on-record.html
assbot: International report confirms: 2014 was Earth’s warmest year on record ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoYmjm )
trinque: mats: at least in the case of the west antarctic glacier I read something interesting regarding the involvement of geologic activity
trinque: looking for it
trinque: http://phys.org/news/2015-07-surprisingly-high-geothermal-beneath-west.html
assbot: Study finds surprisingly high geothermal heating beneath West Antarctic Ice Sheet ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTLJHA )
trinque: of course warming is also occurring
trinque: sounds though like that glacier *is* headed for the ocean
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204274 <<< haha white guilt libs getting their just deserts https://puu.sh/iQ1v2/2ff220321a.jpg ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:40:10; decimation: "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. "
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTM5hu )
mats: trinque: fun times ahead
mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue ☟︎☟︎
trinque: wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something ☟︎
cazalla: trinque, they have been doing that every year for the past few years if memory serves
trinque: how bout I start deedbotting IPs and names and let that be that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32655 @ 0.00053197 = 17.3715 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80774 @ 0.00053105 = 42.895 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7424 @ 0.00052484 = 3.8964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00054691 = 13.7548 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126800 @ 0.00054068 = 68.5582 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13883 @ 0.00053922 = 7.486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81912 @ 0.00053922 = 44.1686 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 285 @ 0.0039091 = 1.1141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00056287 = 28.5375 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.00053851 = 31.2874 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204244 << also happened to blockchain.info, and I remember posting a paper about similar attacks against HD wallets ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:18:22; asciilifeform: trinque: this was done. for 'android' wallet of one kind or another
punkman: also Counterparty wallet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg6354587#msg6354587
assbot: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk55oe )
punkman: also hilarious https://github.com/jim618/multibit/issues/403
assbot: Generated invalid address '1FYMZEHnszCHKTBdFZ2DLrUuk3dGwYKQxh' · Issue #403 · jim618/multibit · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk5nLK )
shinohai: > A must-buy for @Gavin: http://amzn.to/1KaCQ0l
assbot: Amazon.com - Corbis Images - Sperm in Testis of a Rat Peel and Stick Wall Decal by Wallmonkeys - ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk5tDf )
punkman: that's the address for secret exponent=0
punkman: it's currently unspendable, though I think you might be able to spend it on 0.5.3
shinohai: sweet, you think you could make counterparty work?
punkman: huh?
shinohai: oh multibit. I never liked it so never used it
punkman: apparently more than one person hit that bug with multibit https://github.com/steauacris89/MULTIBIT-BUG-/issues/1
assbot: MULTIBIT BUG , PLEASE RETURN MY BTC · Issue #1 · steauacris89/MULTIBIT-BUG- · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk5Aic )
shinohai is just coming awake, having coffee @ 4 am
shinohai: tbh i thought maybe 50 people used multibit
punkman: I believe someone has actually sold the private key of the above address
punkman: then the guy that bought it realizes he can't spend anything from the address
punkman: good scam
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00055528 = 5.9137 BTC [+]
punkman: interestingly, "re-used k" is how the Playstation 3 keys were broken
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00055528 = 3.8314 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00056318 = 12.0521 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00055631 = 12.4613 BTC [-]
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Julia Reda ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF#6269187B70BE0F1B4094A0DCA78923F50E78C97F8B3999BAB3DE5974003B393F>
davout: ohai boludos
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00056428 = 34.675 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48650 @ 0.00056458 = 27.4668 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100050 @ 0.00055131 = 55.1586 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70678 @ 0.00053962 = 38.1393 BTC [-]
jurov: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/17/the-square-kilometre-array-radio-silence-in-western-australia-for-most-powerful-telescope-in-history
assbot: The Square Kilometre Array: radio silence in Western Australia for most powerful telescope in history | Science | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8cEWt )
jurov: "Given that no computer exists that will be able to deal with the volume of what SKA will produce, the success of the project rests on the continuing robustness of Moore’s law: that every 18 to 24 months computer processing power will double."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45039 @ 0.00052954 = 23.85 BTC [-]
jurov: dem miners
mircea_popescu: eh, journos.
mircea_popescu: da fuck they know about distributed computing.
jurov: shipping yottabytes from australia?
jurov: it smells to me like it really needs to be processed on the spot
mircea_popescu: because there's going toi be a single box yottabyte processor.
jurov: ^indeed.
mircea_popescu: looky, distributed doesn't mean geographically dispersed.
jurov: i mean, moore's not what they expect anymore, they may end up needing gigawatts of ower and cooling,
jurov: meticulously RF shielded
jurov: whether 10km or 100km away from the site does not make such big difference
jurov: and then someone will hax it and use radio as mere entropy source for mining :DDDD
cazalla: meanwhile down under http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-16/pirate-radio-station-near-portland-shut-down-operator-fined/6625792
assbot: Pirate radio station near Portland shut down, operator fined - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8dwKT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68550 @ 0.00053599 = 36.7421 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204200 << it doesn't take much "principled" for "psychopaths". they're the people who don't give a shit, remember ? not even about PEOPLE THEMSELVES!111!! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:03:27; trinque: or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64900 @ 0.0005389 = 34.9746 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: meanwhile my pogo is running smooth: I've been connected to mpex.btc for 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 6 seconds.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28571 @ 0.00054353 = 15.5292 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: to wut ?!
shinohai: i connected to your node until it failed, now i just have 1 connection.
mircea_popescu: oh oh.
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be up and down as i play with this nonsense block.
shinohai: yes i bookmarked that as "ph0rk 1"
shinohai: I am keeping a messy log of it
shinohai: danielpbarron was down the day i got my pogo of all days.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204235 << ever since the block exporter thing i've been mentally picturing you like that scene in brazil ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:12:43; asciilifeform: (and chances are, i will, l0l)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72800 @ 0.00052475 = 38.2018 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: so i am stalled, but it is a hell of a device, this pogo
mircea_popescu: not bad huh
shinohai: i am sure it will kick ass when i get an actual ssd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00055306 = 16.7024 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204259 << afaik us navy is keeping a safe distance specifically for this reason ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:27:11; mats: matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204260 << anti tank incendiary ?! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:28:03; decimation: well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile
mircea_popescu: that was a high exposive incendiary of some sort.
mircea_popescu: prolly fired some ancient ru howitzer at the thing.
mircea_popescu: check it out, Jasper Spires is black.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204308 << not updated in a while neh ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:50:44; decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204319 << dude gtfo, seriously. door's wide open. usians are mentally retarded. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:54:03; decimation: ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching."
mircea_popescu: nobody's guarding it but the nails in their forehead.
mircea_popescu: the self-driven nails.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00052456 = 13.114 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i watched a great film recently. "knockaround guys". it has some great names in it (malkovich has by now taken his obsession with 'voice training' to the point he has a serious speech impediment, his mental issues with voice remind one of angelina jolie and secondary sexual characteristics)
mircea_popescu: but the thing is so bad, ill conceived, mishapen and plain out lame as you couldn't believe.
mircea_popescu: at some point four utter dorks riding around in a car go "imagine, guys like us. we could be owning this place in a week!"
mircea_popescu: unintentional for sure, but an excellent expose of mental retardation, us style.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00055972 = 9.4033 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204359 << nothing keeps you from making your own private backup. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:03:59; asciilifeform: (we all know why. and i'm gonna guess that he doesn't give a damn, 'nobody needed the library of alexandria for anything')
mircea_popescu: at the cost of whatever coupla bux it comes to.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204365 << 7,203atm. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:08:56; trinque: couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204366 << you certainly can make your own backup. fair use is fair use. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
punkman: how many of those are in romanian btw
mircea_popescu: mmm
mircea_popescu: lemme see. tho i'd expect folks with the archival bent to want to preserve those particularly. who even knows what they actually say.
mircea_popescu: 1384 in english, rest in ro
punkman: oh wow, we've missed all kinds of good stuff
mircea_popescu: we have ? o.O
punkman: us that don't read romanian
mircea_popescu: in fairness a lot of it is not legitimately interesting other than to try and pry into "the personality of the man" etc. lots of style discussions, places nobody really gives a shit about etc.
mircea_popescu: a good chunk of the legitimately interesting stuff was linked either here in reference to soemthing or in english articles etc.
mircea_popescu: then again... who knows what i'm even forgetting.
mircea_popescu: !up hazirafel
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204405 << right out the "i'm not gay, i just like the taste of cock is all" book. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204406 << you must be new, this has been ongoing once a year for half a decade or some shit. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 06:11:28; trinque: wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00054698 = 2.9537 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://loungeoflust.tumblr.com/post/84864298407/the-foreplay-part-1-x-art
assbot: Loungeoflust - The foreplay part 1 (X-Art) ... ( http://bit.ly/1faiucJ )
shinohai: That may be the find of the week
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38032 @ 0.00052479 = 19.9588 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48450 @ 0.00052479 = 25.4261 BTC [-]
cazalla: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/17/coontown-a-noxious-racist-corner-of-reddit-survives-recent-purge/
assbot: ‘Coontown': A noxious, racist corner of Reddit survives recent purge - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1HV0t95 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88182 @ 0.0005247 = 46.2691 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70200 @ 0.000533 = 37.4166 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71101 @ 0.0005545 = 39.4255 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00052371 = 25.6618 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/pElWUj6.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1M9KPwS )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53393 @ 0.00055572 = 29.6716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00052911 = 13.7039 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204405 << well, this is true if you're, say, robert durst ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
pete_dushenski: http://www.thejinxhbo.com/ << have not personally watched, but have it on good authority that it's chillingly riveting
assbot: THE JINX ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjUrV2 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109479 @ 0.00052369 = 57.3331 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53268 @ 0.00052172 = 27.791 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204253 << damn. anyone still think that isis is 'a nuisance and if they become anything more they’ll all be killed.' ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:22:57; mats: http://imgur.com/a/W9mQt stills
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00052814 = 10.3515 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/30/climate-change-is-a-good-thing-not-the-apocalypse-mkay/#comment-23136 << lel. angry climatards be angry. and non-specifically so.
assbot: Climate change is a good thing, NOT THE APOCALYPSE, mkay? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjXiNE )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44700 @ 0.00052814 = 23.6079 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204482 << the one with the pipes ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 10:41:52; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204235 << ever since the block exporter thing i've been mentally picturing you like that scene in brazil
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teufz17PqoY
assbot: Terry Gilliam's Movie Brazil - Plumbers' Nasty End - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjXTyV ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ mega-film
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204552 << me. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 14:25:59; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204253 << damn. anyone still think that isis is 'a nuisance and if they become anything more they’ll all be killed.' ?
asciilifeform: they're merely the latest incarnation of usg's dept. of foreign devil menace.
pete_dushenski: aha. al-queda 2.0 ?
asciilifeform: muppet theatre
asciilifeform: taliban 2
asciilifeform: wake me up when they bag a plumbooker
asciilifeform: (^ not a high bar! even 'jonestown' managed)
pete_dushenski: mkay. well you have to admit that they're considerably farther reaching than 'taliban'
punkman: what's a plumbooker?
pete_dushenski: magick usians
asciilifeform: punkman: usa has the equivalent of su nomenklatura. as in, an actual phone book of the annointed
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 i haz pogoplug demo video xD
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: "The United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions, commonly known as the Plum Book, is published every four years, after the Presidential election.  The Plum Book is used to identify presidentially appointed positions within the Federal Government"
punkman: oic
asciilifeform: there is a thicker, nameless book which contains the list of SES ('senior executive service') employees
asciilifeform: (the highest rank in usg's 'non-political' civil service ladder.)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58475 @ 0.0005217 = 30.5064 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: https://github.com/NYTimes/plumbook apparently around 5k people
assbot: NYTimes/plumbook · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjZkxq )
asciilifeform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura << for utter n00bz ☟︎
assbot: Nomenklatura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjZvc6 )
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1203852 << very nicely done, BingoBoingo ! one of your better pieces lately. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 01:05:21; scoopbot_revived: Limits of Moore's Law Challenge Intel - Questions About Future Performance http://qntra.net/2015/07/limits-of-moores-law-challenge-intel-questions-about-future-performance/
decimation: it's true, it looks like the 7-10 nm range is gonna be a strech for production
decimation: obviously prototypes have been created, but it's another matter to crank out such chips in production
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45404 @ 0.00053386 = 24.2394 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: well if bitcoin is just a prototype...
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/07/bb-transcript-redact.htm << from the lulzfarm
assbot: Text Redacted from Barrett Brown Sentencing Transcript ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ok0NUv )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17773 @ 0.00052168 = 9.2718 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.00052105 = 33.8683 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56100 @ 0.00052072 = 29.2124 BTC [-] {2}
mats: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ARPD << rapid7 had an IPO
assbot: Rapid7 Inc: NASDAQ:RPD quotes & news - Google Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1Myo0kB )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3074 @ 0.00053386 = 1.6411 BTC [+]
mats: someone fucked up when pricing their shares
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski ty
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8626 @ 0.00053588 = 4.6225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8063 @ 0.00052607 = 4.2417 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79098 @ 0.00052065 = 41.1824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25120 @ 0.00054036 = 13.5738 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30280 @ 0.00054485 = 16.4981 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/70c4b127bfeed75f9f333fb742c21a3c6d11fee5e3e1f5917099523754b82b4f << 4.89 mn days destroyed in one transaction.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J56C88 )
pete_dushenski: seems like a lot but i have to admit that i rarely look at such things.
pete_dushenski: $goog pops 15%, $etsy 26% this morning.
shinohai: I heard that a bunch of sjw's got upset because etsy won't let you sell spells anymore.
fluffypony: lol
pete_dushenski: leave spells to the dark markets
shinohai: ^
trinque: mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204366 << you certainly can make your own backup. fair use is fair use. << cool ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
trinque has all this disk and so little worthwhile content with which to fill it
trinque: I'm thinking of making it a semi-official function of deedbot to archive a particular site at a particular time and timestamp the bundle
punkman: that would make some pretty big bundles though
trinque: punkman: I just snagged a machine with a few raid cards and 8 drives, but yeah, probably so
trinque: I might make the rating requirement for site-archival a bit higher than for deeds
trinque: anyhow, just musing on the thought currently
punkman: URL deeding would be handy ☟︎
punkman: we had a couple threads about it
BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/17/7bfd5030ace80a22f705338783cbb3b3.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dl9dV5 )
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
jurov: http://www.damninteresting.com/the-last-great-steam-car/ who killed the steam car!
jurov: "Astonishingly, an unmodified Doble Model E runs clean enough to pass the strict emissions laws in California today." heh
BingoBoingo: Interesing
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 277.9, Best ask: 279.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.30000, Last trade: 279.0, 24 hour volume: 32117.18507149, 24 hour low: 272.0, 24 hour high: 281.0, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00054485 = 31.9282 BTC [+]
ascii_field: jurov: iirc, the incurably fatal defect of that car was the five-minute start time
jurov: they made it down to 90 sec
jurov: according to tfa
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73247 @ 0.00054485 = 39.9086 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/17/exclusive-interview-with-the-gay-porn-star-behind-that-terrible-gawker-article/
assbot: Interview With The Gay Porn Star Behind That Gawker Article | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1REjQ17 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0005287 = 1.3218 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178718 << me too! and the "famicon" mentioned earlier in this thread might sound familiar to fans of SMB2 -- the ~real~ SMB2 is known in the english world as "The Lost Levels" because it was deemed "too difficult" for them when it first came out, and "Super Famicon" was re-branded and re-skinned and shipped to USSA in its place ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 04:00:51; *: decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games
trinque: danielpbarron: yeah, our mario 2 was that weird platformer they rebranded at the last minute
trinque: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yume_K%C5%8Dj%C5%8D:_Doki_Doki_Panic#Yume_K.C5.8Dj.C5.8D:_Doki_Doki_Panic
assbot: Super Mario Bros. 2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1REl6kP )
danielpbarron: yep, with the mega-lame least-creative-way-to-end-a-story-possible... IT WAS ALL A DREAM L0L
trinque: that game sucked
danielpbarron: pretty much, although it will always be nostalgic to me
danielpbarron: but yeah, i generally glare at people who exclaim "OMG smb2 is my fav!1"
trinque: I play it for the same reason time to time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88600 @ 0.00054374 = 48.1754 BTC [+] {3}
mod6: shinohai: cool! got a link for us yet? wanna check it out :]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00054485 = 5.1216 BTC [+]
trinque: yeah, neat. I just fired up my own pogo today
trinque: got a nice little intel ssd for it too
mod6: sweet!
shinohai: nice trinque I don't have ssd yet T_T
trinque: had an old 80gb in a macbook I finally retired to the dumpster
trinque sheds a single tear for "elderbook"
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field meanwhile is writing proggy for msdos !
ascii_field: (asm, naturally)
trinque: interesting, what brings you to that archaeological dig?
ascii_field: wurk
trinque: shinohai: newegg has 'em for about 50 bux
jurov: what? macbooks with 80g intel ssds can be bought for 50bux?
scoopbot_revived: Turns out you wanted Hitler after all. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/17/turns-out-you-wanted-hitler-after-all/
trinque: jurov: no, just the ssd
trinque: tho that macbook wasn't even worth 50 bucks
trinque: bad mobo issues
trinque: kernel panics and such
trinque: would've probably lived longer if not for the many dousings with beer/coffee/misc
ascii_field lulz at the folks who nod when he says 'computer should cost $100k and be a heirloom' who then tell about the coffee they spilled in their 7th laptop
trinque: 100k computer goes in the basement!
trinque: I'll beer all over my cheap terminal
ascii_field: ever look at what vt100 and its contemporaries cost ?
ascii_field: (i, for one, was surprised when learned the answer)
jurov: basement that never gets flooded!
trinque: jurov: errrr sealed missile silo!
trinque: ascii_field: haven't, maybe a misguided assumption
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64362 @ 0.00054036 = 34.7787 BTC [-]
trinque: found one for a grand, damn.
trinque: but this is because it's vintage
ascii_field: nono
ascii_field: ~at the time~
trinque: ah, at the time I'm sure they were very expensive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187150 @ 0.0005398 = 101.0236 BTC [-] {4}
decimation: I have an old macbook1,1 I would like to use for stator
decimation: i put an ssd in it awhile ago
decimation: one day when I get some extra time I might work on the osx build stuff
mod6: !up assbot
mod6: gdit
mod6: !up ascii_field
mod6: so I dumped a few blocks 0, 1, 2, 199`999, etc.
mod6: and i never did find that magic number in there: 0xf9, 0xbe, 0xb4, 0xd9
ascii_field: mod6: 0xd9b4bef9
mod6: which i thought was kinda weird, so i looked at the code again. This is a part of CMessageHeader, used in ProcessMessage -- so I ran a tcpdump while syncing:
ascii_field: we're little-endian
mod6: http://dpaste.com/3A4FHKE.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Okzw4g )
ascii_field: mod6: precisely above
ascii_field: 0320: f9be b4d9
ascii_field: you're seeing it
mod6: i don't see the bytes in any order.
mod6: (in the block itself)
mod6: just in the message header
ascii_field: it gets in when it is written
ascii_field: to disk
ascii_field: see the src
mod6: then is dump block not including it?
ascii_field: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block << ahahah apparently
assbot: Genesis block - Bitcoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1fR1U2E )
ascii_field: they start with version (32bits), aha
ascii_field: somehow forgot this
mod6: so dumping the first four blocks with `dumpblock' into each their own .bin files, then using xxd and shovling them all into one file, here's the result: http://dpaste.com/1B1H1PC.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OkBG3R )
ascii_field: mod6: matches what i have
mod6: ok, ftr, this is from nsl's node with -verifyall on.
mod6: just thought it was worth mentioning that i found it in the MessageHeader with tcpdump.
mod6: ah, ok so looking at http://dpaste.com/2J1JRCR.txt again, we can def. note that it's a v3 block and that's not just some garbage in there.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OkCpSE )
mod6: [block 364`672]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00054535 = 18.2147 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
scoopbot_revived: US Can't Retain Drone Pilots http://qntra.net/2015/07/us-cant-retain-drone-pilots/
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/6eeea29eba868ab8f9f97c04c3c866ae/tumblr_n65ezs0wmV1tatb44o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1fR7Ybn )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56522 @ 0.00054553 = 30.8344 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: pilots get tired of fish in a barrel, eh?
trinque: how bout that
BingoBoingo: trinque: Probably tired of not actually being pilots
mircea_popescu: kinda weird seeing how drone flying is a common hobby on uni campuses
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16228 @ 0.000546 = 8.8605 BTC [+]
trinque: could be entirely unrelated to being a drone operator too
mircea_popescu: yea
BingoBoingo: Well, there probably a difference between flying drones as a lay hobbyist and flying drones when you spent your youth training to fly planes you fit inside
mircea_popescu: maybe nobody wants to be in the navy anymore because it's doing dumbass "sensitivity training"
mircea_popescu: as a for instance.
davout: who wants to fly drones when you can either fly fighter jets or fuck flight attendants
trinque: yeah, amounts to a cubicle job a lot like being a videogame tester
trinque: or I'd assume
mircea_popescu: all this effort put into becoming "more women friendly" in a retarded, contorted way that women don't give a shit about and pisses off men is mayhap paying off
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204558 << the on ewith the watching tv ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 14:40:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204482 << the one with the pipes ?
mircea_popescu: except you're watching the node spew scroll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72350 @ 0.00053757 = 38.8932 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: this "surgical" death from the sky thing strikes me as a bit like playing with one's food
trinque: at least larger wars might end
trinque: s/might/will/
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204626 << so much win. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 17:06:24; BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/17/7bfd5030ace80a22f705338783cbb3b3.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204624 << there's that archive.today thing which seems to work ok. if anyone actually cares enough about a website (which seems a stretch in my mind, but w/e) they can still do what i did to the usms scammer bunch, curl, base64 and sign. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 16:51:29; punkman: URL deeding would be handy
mircea_popescu: otherwise "signing an url" is kinda like "windows security" in that pages include foreign elements.
chetty: ahaha so thats it, its realities fault
ascii_field: i must note that archive.today is not (apparently) recursive
trinque: well god's dead and that's no fair, so the state will have to chip in instead
BingoBoingo: archive.today is indeed not recursive
trinque: the archive I'm building is primarily for my own reading
mircea_popescu: recursive archival is a very much open question.
mircea_popescu: how many copies of the internet do you want ?
ascii_field: depth=1 would make elementary sense
trinque: personally I'll settle for whatever I can find of the best content, and the rest can be damned
ascii_field: for most sites
ascii_field: that is, the default behaviour of 'wget -m'
mircea_popescu: yeah but no guarantee you get your site this way
mircea_popescu: if you really feel like burning time on this, feel free to look at random sites see what depthy=1 gets you
ascii_field: i did.
ascii_field: (on the mr mold example from last night. got everything that's worth anything there)
trinque: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: i guess wp is better than most on this score.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.000546 = 15.6156 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: !up amiller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77200 @ 0.00052246 = 40.3339 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00052065 = 11.3502 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I'll be back
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: sooo in other nyooz, last night i got a x86_64 buildroot on musl going. shits out a bootable iso
mircea_popescu: o hey!
mircea_popescu: so in principle, we're this close to a pogo binary ?
mircea_popescu: iirc mod6 got stator static
ascii_field: it was static!
ascii_field: when i released it
ascii_field: hence the name
ascii_field: not to be confused with the turd from 3 month ago
ascii_field: which was not
ascii_field: (had dynamic libc)
mircea_popescu: a right
mircea_popescu: vhell then1
mod6: nice ascii_field!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3474 @ 0.00054258 = 1.8849 BTC [+]
ascii_field: point is not only to test pogo build and get musl in, but also it is useful to have a rom-able pc realbitcoinotron
mod6: but yea, was able to build stator as fully static, thanks to ascii_field's cuts from the source.
ascii_field: drop in optical disk, it looks for blockchain on largest blockdev, if doesn't find - counts down with skull, minute later - formats drive, starts fetching blocks...
shinohai: i havent built a staic stator on pogo yet
trinque: nice
ascii_field: ^ above is the notion. all i have presently is a 10m iso that boots to shell
ascii_field: 100% musl though
ascii_field: and self-contained (relies on no libs from host)
ascii_field: !s spreading works
assbot: 9 results for 'spreading works' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=spreading+works
mircea_popescu: ascii_field quite.
mircea_popescu: actually : could we add a replicator ?
ascii_field: ?
mircea_popescu: "pogo responds to magic packet on port X by sending over the iso"
ascii_field: can host on :80
ascii_field: like normal people
mircea_popescu: it has a web server ?!
ascii_field: could have just this
ascii_field: if we wanted
ascii_field: (no need for adult web server)
trinque: if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site.
ascii_field: will need for the console regardless !
mircea_popescu: i think might be useful feature yea
mircea_popescu: simplify distribution of the iso in any case.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, http://33.media.tumblr.com/e3f1c5471a280606676eb5caa12abfc6/tumblr_n3r2iuuOFS1twbbpbo1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OkNLWx )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.00052065 = 1.0429 BTC [-]
trinque: is there anything that'd keep this hp turdserver from having the svm flag on the cpus other than... not having that?
trinque: bios didn't seem to have a virtualization setting
mircea_popescu: Jul 2015538954457,386663,979488816.56 GB << jurov you know i blame you for this right ?
jurov: is that minigame.bz? well, you asked for it
mod6: <+trinque> if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site. << Hear, hear.
mircea_popescu: on the plus side there's well over 1k complete versions of the thing i nthe wild now, so it's not a total loss.
mircea_popescu: but damned, half a yottabyte. i feel like google.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50397 @ 0.00051966 = 26.1893 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: top browsers : WgetYes392,47585.8 %
mircea_popescu: also lulzy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.00051914 = 33.0692 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: halp i have endian problems in my head. peta not yotta!
jurov: i thought you're just trying to be poetic
mircea_popescu: that also.
danielpbarron: wow lame, gave only 1
danielpbarron: oops wrong window lol
trinque: either I have a good nose or the neighbors are *really* drinking this afternoon
trinque: can smell the booze
trinque: crypto-robo-babylon when?
ascii_field: pyronecrocryptozoophilia.
ascii_field: today.
trinque: so I go over there with a flamethrower and a bandana on my face, then fuck the ashes?
trinque: got it
trinque: it'd be a neat company to have, something which built heavily fortified homes
trinque: wonder if there's a market for that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88187 @ 0.00054224 = 47.8185 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: if I someday neither hear, smell, nor see neighbors, that'll be a good close to chapter one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104900 @ 0.00051838 = 54.3781 BTC [-] {4}
ben_vulpes: neat to hear about musl, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: my stator's up to 347786
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: once you have a known-good blockchain, just copy it
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: i know that it takes longer, but i like to actually exercise the sync mechanism once every five builds or so
ben_vulpes: anyways i was poking at hunchentoot in service of making an httoy out of some of the patches that you've posted recently and discovered that the sbcl i had on the plane didn't support threads
trinque: aw
trinque: man I would've bought the scam wifi for a flight that long
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: tried 'verifyall' yet ?
ascii_field: that's kinda what it was for
mod6: im running it on two seperate envs now actually.
mod6: ones at 294k and the other... 158k
mod6: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: trinque: wifi over ocean: yes. cell for scammers to resell - no
ben_vulpes: the wifi is actually free
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: no, i have not tried verifyall yet
ben_vulpes: just reading your patches and thinking about how to exercise them is a quarter-time job
ascii_field: waiwut
ascii_field: really not much in the patches thus far
ascii_field: mostly antimatter
ascii_field: wait till the ~real~ patches, l0l
ben_vulpes: keep in mind that this is how i'm learning cpp
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40950 @ 0.00051968 = 21.2809 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: the only way to re-verify a chain-on-disk right now is to dump and re-eat all blocks, correct?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: that, or twiddle the relevant constant
ascii_field: (i forget precisely where. oughta be a patch!)
ben_vulpes: hrm? what constant is this
ben_vulpes: the only thing i'm aware of in the 'mainstream' codebasen is the "rescan" thinger, but that only looks for transactions relevant to the wallet
ascii_field: -checkblocks
ascii_field: looks like we have it, already
ben_vulpes: lol and completely absent from the usage message
ascii_field: aha.
ascii_field: (it was like this in 0.5.3 iirc)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83050 @ 0.00051664 = 42.907 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: jesus christ
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67733 @ 0.00053583 = 36.2934 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2015#1203701 << all i know is that programming sucks and some ways of doing it suck a little less than others. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-07-2015 21:07:59; mats: if you hate something, thats fine, but i expect specific and reasoned judgment; its well and good to despise node.js, or javascript, or c++, but i catch a funny smell in here when folks more or less coopt the opinions of their perceived betters
trinque: and if the opinion is justified and the hate remains?
trinque: anyhow, the thread thereafter addressed it.
ascii_field: 'In addition to the ACPI feature, remote wake-up (including AMD Magic Packet and Microsoft Wake-up frame) is supported in both ACPI and APM (Advanced Power Management) environments. To support WOL from a deep power down state (e.g., D3cold, i.e., main power is off and only auxiliary exists), the auxiliary power source must be able to provide the needed power... ...The RTL8111E supports Protocol offload. It offloads some
ascii_field: of the most common protocols to NIC hardware in order to prevent spurious wake up and further reduce power consumption. The RTL8111E can offload ARP (IPv4) and NS (IPv6) protocols while in the D3 power saving state. '
ascii_field: ^ lulzy
ascii_field: mircea_popescu ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114750 @ 0.00051561 = 59.1662 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54600 @ 0.00051464 = 28.0993 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6803 @ 0.00053882 = 3.6656 BTC [+] {2}
ag3nt_zer0: hi there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36486 @ 0.00054786 = 19.9892 BTC [+] {5}
trinque: good afternoon, how goes?
shinohai: sup ag3nt_zer0
mircea_popescu: hey ben_vulpes trinque do i have this right, you mostly make apple store games ?
ag3nt_zer0: hey trinque fine just trying to install eulora here... you?
ag3nt_zer0: hey shinohai
trinque: mircea_popescu: nah, I do web turds
mircea_popescu: ah i thought you wored together on same firm thing
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not games, no
mircea_popescu: but what ?
ben_vulpes: except insofar as vc-backed shartups are games
ben_vulpes: ios and android and webturd "engineering" horsepower as a service
ben_vulpes: if someone were so foolish as to want to pay us to build a game we could
ben_vulpes: everything from promotional apps to apps for insurance companies to internal business process web applications
ag3nt_zer0: do I need to be in particular directory for this to work? "You'll need to install several support libraries via MacPorts. Run sudo port install (package-name) for all of the packages in the first two lists here." - I enter this and it says Error port opengl not found
mircea_popescu: what'd cost me for you to make the eulora client into an ipad app ?
mircea_popescu: but only if you actually can do the whole chain, i don't wish to touch apple. so if yo ucan get it into their store thing etc.
ben_vulpes: yeah generally the first thing we ask for is root on your apple account
ben_vulpes: then your servers
mircea_popescu: i do not have an apple account nor would be getting one.
mircea_popescu: hahaha mno.
mircea_popescu: you get the c++ turdball that's the client.
ben_vulpes: then your children
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: i only give my children to women.
ascii_field will be rather surprised if the thing passes the censors
ben_vulpes: i do have some understanding of how you work
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 yes you do, but that doesn't sound like a wrong directory problem
ag3nt_zer0: entered this sudo port install OpenGL
ben_vulpes: first thing to be aware of is that if it has anything to do with bitcoin and transacting stuff it's going to be a bitch to get past the 'reviewers'
ben_vulpes: censors as alf sez
ben_vulpes: but uh a pile of money probably
mircea_popescu: i don't see how it does.
ben_vulpes: over 9000
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: I am in home directory, where should I be?
mircea_popescu: i personally never got a mac. best everyone knows is in the wiki, you reading that ?
ag3nt_zer0: yeah
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: macports doesn't care what directory you're in
ag3nt_zer0: hmmm ok
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: try doing a sudo port selfupdate first?
ascii_field: speaking of all of this, i realized not long ago that one could easily do a 'pogo' for some shitablet or other
ascii_field: (replacing turdroid etc. in the rom)
trinque: yeah, with external storage?
trinque: pretty sure all tablet makers still charge out the ass for more than a pittance of storage
mircea_popescu: iirc tablets come with 8-16-etc gb
ascii_field: usb jack
mircea_popescu: that's not so common
ascii_field: sop on turdroid
ascii_field: (often needs a cheap mechanical adapter from 'micro' to female 'a')
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60250 @ 0.00051453 = 31.0004 BTC [-] {3}
ag3nt_zer0: well sent a pm to phf hopefully he can help...
ben_vulpes: !s block777
assbot: 0 results for 'block777' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=block777
ben_vulpes: !s http://block777.com/
assbot: Block 777 - Bitcoin Blockchain Betting Game ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ol4sRX )
assbot: 0 results for 'http://block777.com/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fblock777.com%2F
ben_vulpes: 'tis lulzy
ben_vulpes: makes the eyes bleed, but lulzy nevertheless
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: they make micro-usb to usb adapters that plug into the charger port
ben_vulpes: http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2013/01/nigerias-illegal-oil-refineries/n12_RTR3CGTO/main_1200.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ol6npw )
williamdunne: Is that a Romanian flag on that tuktuk
williamdunne: Yep
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: For example this can be used to simultaneously charge a phone and give it access to a USB port of its own; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-Host-Cable-Male-to-USB-Female-OTG-Cable-USB-Male-Y-Cable-For-Note-4-/291373357246?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43d73498be
assbot: Micro USB Host Cable Male to USB Female OTG Cable + USB Male Y Cable For Note 4 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1J5ZJDt )
williamdunne: Oh wrong about charging part, that's to power whatever is plugged in via usb, lame
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/07/wizard-school.html
assbot: Stevey's Blog Rants: Wizard School ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ol9BJx )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: wat
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day
jurov: it's named "on the go" connector
jurov: and yes, it's not for 24/7
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: it's a lul by the fella who wrote 'lisp is not an acceptable lisp'
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: I know.
gabriel_laddel: I've read everything Mr. Yegge has written
ascii_field: jurov: why not 24/7
jurov: cuz not charging.
ascii_field: i have hardware powered by 'usb otg' jacks going 24/7...
ascii_field: data lines still work
jurov: the droid acts as usb host and it is supposed to provide power
jurov: you'll have to recharge it some other way then
ascii_field: i bet this can be finessed
ascii_field: i ordered a 'miracast' last week, would have tested this already, but it was delayed in the post
jurov: i have proposed to use n900's in such manner, less shitty and more OSS than droids, was immediately shot down
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00053729 = 9.0533 BTC [+]
jurov: seems we are getting desperate :)
ascii_field: jurov: not so much desperate as the fact that i found a device available for $10-15 ~NEW~ from cn, with 256 (or even 512) MB of ram
ascii_field: and powered via usbotg
ascii_field: new+multivendor is a major plus imho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51250 @ 0.00054542 = 27.9528 BTC [+] {3}
ag3nt_zer0: anyone have any thoughts on the Jolla?
ag3nt_zer0: and/or neo900?
ascii_field: €249.00
ascii_field: irrelevant.
ascii_field: at least - to therealbitcoin.
ascii_field: can buy a fucking computer for that.
ascii_field: or 12 pogos
ascii_field: 14
williamdunne: 00:06:08 - gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day <<< isn't that what #b-a is anyway? At least that's how I'm trying to use it. ☟︎
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/sHdFpXq.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbdhP5 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.0005507 = 17.3471 BTC [+]
jurov: !s WLX-652
assbot: 0 results for 'WLX-652' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=WLX-652
jurov: ^ just found this pogo sibling. but nowhere they say how much mem does it have
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: jurov: found a supplier for these ?
ascii_field: (as far as i can tell, they're extinct ...?)
jurov: http://www.dx.com/p/standalone-bittorrent-bt-client-upnp-usb-nas-ftp-samba-printer-sharing-network-lan-server-20383#.VamNyDJ9zmE
assbot: Standalone BitTorrent BT Client + UPNP USB/NAS/FTP/SAMBA/Printer Sharing Network LAN Server - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbeaqQ )
ascii_field: expensive
ascii_field: https://snake-os.googlecode.com/files/snake_os_User_man_12_01_13.pdf << claims 32MB of ram
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbehT8 )
ascii_field: which is what is in my 'hootoo', costing less than half
jurov: 32? then yes, expensive
ascii_field: (we are, sadly, nowhere near the point where we can live in 32)
jurov: back to pogo, all mSATA drives i see are 5-6cm long and impossible to fit inside
jurov: what's supposed to go there at all?
ascii_field: msata ?
ascii_field: pogo has no msata
danielpbarron: the top pops off
danielpbarron: i left that piece on
ascii_field: has normal 'laptop' sata
danielpbarron: drive will stick awkwardly out the top
jurov: ah. so msata won't fit?
ascii_field: http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/networkstorage/pogo/B005GM1Q1O/B006I5MKZY-interfaces-08l.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbf0nf )
ascii_field: http://media.bestofmicro.com/B/X/350349/original/msata_sata500px.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbf72e )
ascii_field: the naked pcb thing is what is normally called 'msata'
ascii_field: no such jack in pogo
ascii_field: only laptop-sata (bottom of photo)
jurov: but 2.5" drive won't fit
jurov is confused
ascii_field: jurov: it fits
ascii_field: did you remove the dust cover from the pogo ?
jurov: only with top cover completely off and pcb bare
ascii_field: don't strip the pcb, you need the plastic cradle
ascii_field: or the jack is likely to break off
ascii_field: if you have a peculiar drive that won't sit down in the cradle - post photo ?
jurov: so you say Kingston SSDNow V300 2.5" drive will fit in the slit? that's not possible
ascii_field: that is precisely the shape of the drive sitting in mine
jurov: can you post photo of whole setup?
ascii_field: i did, long ago; in the log
ascii_field: presently digging for it
jurov: that drive is 7cm wide and the slit in the cover is only 4.5cm
ascii_field: jurov: you must have something very odd going on. plz post pic
jurov: oh i get it now. the connector protrudes out of the cover
ascii_field: jurov: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/jsp724/imgs/b/f/bf8da3a9.jpg << not mine - but this is what it will look like.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbg1fa )
danielpbarron: jurov, http://i.imgur.com/tm6nK30.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbg5M7 )
jurov: ok
jurov: danielpbarron: how much free space you have left?
ascii_field: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/jsp724/imgs/f/2/f22a61e7.jpg << can use with other shapes
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbgduU )
mircea_popescu: well this was the sight of all time
ascii_field: which
danielpbarron: jurov, /dev/root 109G 58G 45G 57% /
mircea_popescu: so the procuraderia de la nacion, which is basiucally the da's office, has this gated off entryway. in that entryway, stored two meters from the grating, eight five gallon plastic containers full of gasoline.
mircea_popescu: nevermind that i dunno where it's even legal to store gasoline in plastic.
ascii_field: ^ sop in usa
mircea_popescu: anyone can be a terrorist for the price of a quarter dollar cigar.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field in eu you can go to jail for doing that. gotta use metal.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: which metal ?
ascii_field: steel - sparks...
mircea_popescu: there's an alloy
mircea_popescu: i think its mostly tin