mircea_popescu: <Framedragger> mircea_popescu: are you still interested << well... not someone whose attention span is five minutes ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On Bahamascare and Phood stampz coin?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you too see l0gz
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a cultured man will eat pistol before living in porchmonkeyland
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (incidentally why should usg be doing ~all~ of the thermo-journalism!? time for free men to do their share..?) << this is quite so.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzily, somehow usg has not caught up with the profusion of cheap thermovisors that it itself (via massive subsidies) caused, and they've no meaningful shielding
asciilifeform: (not that such shielding is esp. feasible in the general case)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-14#1466537 << for some peculiar reason, 'atlas' never seems to 'shrugged' in real life. << keyword being "seems". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 19:32 mircea_popescu: and that something... doesn't have to be a meteor strike. suppose one of the three changes sides and goes full republic. what then.
asciilifeform: i can think of 1,001 illicit uses
mircea_popescu: throughout the 70s women never "seemed" to suck the cock in real life either.
asciilifeform: e.g., determine ACTUAL % of derelict houses
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You are the one who suggested Atlas "shrug". Shrug is different from Atlas takes the ball off his shoulder, dribbles it down the court, and makes a three point shot.
asciilifeform: i love it when mircea_popescu takes 'my' traditional side in argument - e.g., as seen here, argument ad metacocksucknsa
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox wake me up when this
BingoBoingo: Seriously shrugging is a passive thing. Bouncing the world and the enemies attached to it across the hardwood would be noticed. Who the fuck notices someone else shrugging. Shrug is uninteresting.
mircea_popescu: notably, the us exists today because some people shrugged at some point in the 18th century.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: well the thread was about hypothetical 'three good men' who keep the lights on
asciilifeform: presumably you and i would notice if they decided to vodka instead of work one day
mircea_popescu: happens all the time ; but in order to live in a certain shared psychosis, the key is to "not notice".
mircea_popescu: happened sometime in the 90s, also. after a brief euphoria post the berlin wall moment, people went "well what now ?". just like in that joke with the gypsy woman, "do we wash it or do we make another ?"
mircea_popescu: the decision came out "make another", which is === shrug.
mircea_popescu: for which reason there can not exist "america" of the previous millennium. not no more. nor "western europe" nor any of the rest of the stuff.
mircea_popescu: stuff like http://trilema.com/2015/other-peoples-money/ is actually documenting the tail end of that shrug.
asciilifeform: well the way i read the thread, it was about hypothetical 'if these 3 folks stay home, the trains stop' vs classic sov 'i'ma be a furnace stoker instead of engineer because fuckyou'
mircea_popescu: no particular construction was built on top of it. could be this, could be that.
asciilifeform: the latter proposition - documentedly happened
asciilifeform: the former, afaik - not
mircea_popescu: fact is that where you needed 10% of the population before you need 0.1% now. and, economy being what it is and human nature being what it is, this "saving" did not get passed on. it just went into lazy, inefficient and wasteful.
mircea_popescu: so today things are just a lot more fragile and that's all.
asciilifeform: now this - surely.
mircea_popescu: overall, the tribe of monkeys still makes ~ what it always made
mircea_popescu: which is to say not much of anything at all.
asciilifeform: yeah, factory, office, etc. still 'employs' the 10
asciilifeform: with .1 doing anything describable even charitably as work
asciilifeform: the rest - warming chair
asciilifeform: and arsebooking
asciilifeform: and, of course,
asciilifeform: 'managing' the .1.
mircea_popescu: now, WHY the three people that actually matter may no longer do their magic... whatever. maybe their toy breaks. maybe evil alien xenomorph mp comes and breaks their moore law and they're up shit creek without it. maybe they just start hating the morlochs.
mircea_popescu: whatever it may be... fragility's fragility.
asciilifeform: i'm not certain that a setup built by folks who 'hate the morlocks' would be readily distinguishable from the existing one.
mircea_popescu: goes deeper :
mircea_popescu: there's no way to even show that the possibility of such meaning exists.
mircea_popescu: (there isn't a general rule that all edges of the implication ball are part of this world. much like there's no guarantee that all the numbers coming out of a defined arithmetic operation are in the set of numbers you can display)
asciilifeform: eh sure
asciilifeform: nonphysical solution to quadratic,etc
mircea_popescu: so whether they are or are not distinct, there's no requirement the distinction can be stated.
BingoBoingo: In other lights off trends https://archive.is/LFJf2
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lel! 'let's rebrand artificial ponds'
BingoBoingo: More too the point can't swim in the real ponds because couldn't avoid ruining them. Can't smart enough for civilized chemical fest pool. Y Not fake pond?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-14#1466554 << arguably, ~old men~ in whatever form, tend to wreak havoc on whatever it was that they meaningfully contributed to as young men - think of millikan, say. the 'eminent scientist emeritus' is, typically, a revolting specimen ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 19:41 mircea_popescu: mental health, i mean. the problem of "coffin liners" that asciilifeform discussed in the log is the direct counter to this. if they don't catch their death of cold, they lose track of themselves. this is not good.
asciilifeform: a kind of 'dog in the manger' in just about every case i've personally dealt with
asciilifeform: the obscure crackpots writing into a drawer - are generally harmless.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends. i am not convinced by this theory because i've seen the % vary very wildly across culutres.
mircea_popescu: so currently i'm suspecting it's more of an environment issue than an old man issue
asciilifeform: might be specifically true in dying cultures
asciilifeform: where there is not so much resource to go around
asciilifeform: and no 'frontier'
mircea_popescu: ("citokines are really bad mkay" sorta argument)
asciilifeform: where the young are advantaged
mircea_popescu: you think the young are at an advantage on oregon trail vs say boston ?!
asciilifeform: well in the sense of 'must have this much strength to play' strictly
asciilifeform: and oregon is piss poor example. better - klondike.
mircea_popescu: why ?
asciilifeform: no 'fambleees'
mircea_popescu: no man has a famblee unless a) he's an idiot or b) the woman's +ev.
asciilifeform: from the lulzmachine,
asciilifeform: - - [15/May/2016:00:25:12 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 1101 "-" "curl/7.17.1 (mips-unknown-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.17.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3" ""
asciilifeform: ^ who are you? pwned router?!
mircea_popescu: brazil. much like korea, windowsland.
asciilifeform: ain't no winblowz on mips. not since nt 4 anyway
mircea_popescu: the agent string is arbitrary.
asciilifeform: sure.
asciilifeform: but interesting pick.
asciilifeform: though, funnily, i know of at least one winblowz trojan that bundled a mips ~emulator~ internally
BingoBoingo still rolfing at pool that gets ruined if it is pissed in one too many times
asciilifeform: and had bins built ~for it~
mircea_popescu: $google (mips-unknown-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.17.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
asciilifeform: as obfuscatron.
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mircea_popescu: heh.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-14#1466576 << this flavour of claptrap is becoming a sop pattern innit. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 22:45 mircea_popescu: "researchers at aarhaus university in denmark" ?
asciilifeform: sorta like ye olde 'по просьбе трудящихся...' !
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu ! how do we say that iconic utterance in ro!? )
asciilifeform: and can jurov tell us what it is in cz ?
asciilifeform: somebody... (vaclav havel ?) had a spiffy essay, long ago, re how inca empires invariably fall into having a set of officiose idiocies, enumerated expressions like this.
asciilifeform: where on both sides of the table there is a nod and wink, because 'everybody knows'
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 http://ephemeralp2p.durazo.us/42bb769b817d7b02f237f1754ab7c1287880dc59547f30af28208ff21a3caff6
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: $key wise
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mircea_popescu: "conform vointei clasei muncitoare" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: of course as far as the crap on tv went, "la cererea publicului [tele]spectator"
asciilifeform: lulzily, ro embassy had a ludicrous display titled something like '100 years of usa-romania fellat^H^H^H^H^Hriendship'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466710 << wat's this ☝︎
asciilifeform: bot dead?!
ben_vulpes: ;;ls
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in other news, ro politruk class snubbed the us inauguration of some radars or w/e on romanian soil, part of rocket shield lulzfest.
mircea_popescu: THIS IS IMPORTANT!!111
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: guess they didn't want to become a ru bombardment-prior-to-launch zone
asciilifeform: or sumthing.
asciilifeform: l0gz, incidentally, dead.
mircea_popescu: oh ?
asciilifeform: well, stuck at ~1h ago.
asciilifeform: ... and who even gives half a shit re land-based rockets any moar.
mircea_popescu: or, as the case is here, land based locators. really, you're gonna use something on land ?
mircea_popescu: because why the everloving fuck.
asciilifeform: because it is 1958
asciilifeform: or sumthing.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi who designed an anti-nuke system that depends on parking lots ffs. or, for that matter, who the fuck believes this/
asciilifeform: the vendor, obviously.
asciilifeform: who rakes in the dough.
asciilifeform: optimized, quite clearly to the naked eye, for max rake
asciilifeform: vs anything at all else.
asciilifeform: ever handle a piece of american mil tech designed post-reagan ?
asciilifeform: it practically screams at you
asciilifeform: in precisely the way ru tech screams 'angry and cheap and fuckyou',
asciilifeform: it screams 'i pay for some derp to go to yaleprinceward and for two shriveled hags' alimony'
asciilifeform: x 10,000 chair warmers.
mircea_popescu: heh.
asciilifeform: recent specimens of wunderwaffen are liable to, i shit thee not, have '3d printed' plastic parts.
asciilifeform: i watched this, alive.
mod6: good evening
mircea_popescu: well... prototyping
ben_vulpes: anything airborne without a human on it.
davout: phf: log doesn't appear to sync properly
danielpbarron: ;;later tell BingoBoingo article on core fork says "has not yet publically made any public statements" -- seeme redundant
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: fxd
BingoBoingo: https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2016/05/13/elite-colleges-should-not-penalize-asian-applicants-essay
BingoBoingo: Moar MP copycatting https://archive.is/vcvcw
BingoBoingo: In other BitButtBet lolz https://archive.is/KbCMN
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/bAt1n5z.png
shinohai: lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, not prototyping. production.
asciilifeform: phf awake ?
asciilifeform: log STILL DEAD
shinohai: D:
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: similar situation with 'jew quota' in su. 'officially' it never existed. in practice, any serious institute where the management did ~not~ quietly implement one, would rapidly turn ~80% jew and the brass would have to confront party official asking 'why are you running a synagogue here'
asciilifeform: the ottoman empire, iirc, never invented quotas.
asciilifeform: so the armenians ended up filling all the juicy posts. for a while.
asciilifeform: after which - gas.
asciilifeform: not that quota would have helped.
asciilifeform: the basic unsolvable boojum here is that 'meritocracy' is ultimately a form of buluceala.
asciilifeform: the american college racket illustrates this better than anything else i could think of
asciilifeform: for n00bz: there are really three types of higher ed racket in usa.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 my tbot can now add/remove tickets, little ugly but working :D
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: one, the largest, is the public unis - most of which originally began as late 19th c. land grants, and formerly taught useful things - agronomy, mining, metallurgy, etc.
asciilifeform: that is where most folks go. incl. asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: another, smaller (people-wise, financially - mega-hedgefunds, as described in l0gz) is the 'privates'
asciilifeform: these are not really schools in the ordinary sense. yes, you can take classes, but it is nearly impossible to flunk, and really admission to, e.g., yale, is equiv. of nomenklatura membership.
asciilifeform: the third type, included here for completeness, is 'spam school', a straight chumpatron perpetrated largely on uppity proles. formerly cornered by places like 'strayer' but now the big boiz are expanding into the market.
asciilifeform: these issue faux 'master degree' in fields like 'homeland security.'
asciilifeform: so knowing all of this, it is quite obvious, the americans do not want a 90%-chinese nomenklatura 20yrs from now.
asciilifeform: they ~will~ have one. it is, to use mircea_popescutronic terminology, simply a question of how thick the spiked club they will be raped with until submitting.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466759 << no they had published their research in 2005, it's just a) nobody saw it and b) it's STILL not fucking published omfg. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 13:34 BingoBoingo: Moar MP copycatting https://archive.is/vcvcw
mircea_popescu: do you know what the most read file for the month is, on trilema ? http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lit.txt linked from http://trilema.com/2016/files-from-the-war-on-the-web-today-literotica/
mircea_popescu: but perhaps if you're esl, "made public" means "made privately available to some people who aren't us" or something. god knows everything else means something else, so what the hell's the difference.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, looking forward to more "{Security researchers|IT specialists|Computer experts} with {University of Derp in Derpistan|USG.RedHat.Whatever|The HTTPS Internet} published {Literotica|Fetlife|OkCupid|Ask.fm|Phuctor|whatever} {database|userlist|secret excel codebase} publicly! We don't have a copy because we don't believe in things, we prefer names."
mircea_popescu: at least it won't make alf feel too alone.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466754 << i checked, seems to be fixed. does it self-heal phf or do you have to tickle tits by hand ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 10:32 davout: phf: log doesn't appear to sync properly
phf: manual tit tickling
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466760 << disappeared ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 13:37 BingoBoingo: In other BitButtBet lolz https://archive.is/KbCMN
phf: on the bright side it looks like i finally have time to work on some code improvements
mircea_popescu: very good. see that this is a very iffy point of failure, in the sense that the chances to end up an enemy of the people inadvertently are possibly best. seeing the logs incorrect gets ~everyone's defcon level up a notch or two
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466767 << and if brass had unmitigated audacity to answer "because the jews educate their women to be sluts, which results in the boys being motivated to think, which means one of them can eat ten of your evanghelical shitheaded sons for breakfast. fix your fucking religion, you're lagging behind the fucking irish, even the negro reinterpretation thereof is more socially productive" (as a fe ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:32 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: similar situation with 'jew quota' in su. 'officially' it never existed. in practice, any serious institute where the management did ~not~ quietly implement one, would rapidly turn ~80% jew and the brass would have to confront party official asking 'why are you running a synagogue here'
mircea_popescu: w actually did!) would have more or less brought back the burning stake.
phf: i personally prefer logs to be accidentally realtime, but with stronger correctness guarantees, so it's down for a bit, but there's no message loss. otherwise we have a new jersey solution of "check that a111 is in chan before you say things that you don't want lost"
mircea_popescu: phf i agree to the concept.
phf: but seeing the general freak out that happens, i think that i'd rather it was self healing, and a message or two was lost :p
mircea_popescu: you certainly can't put later lines in if earlier lines are missing, that's asking for black eyes.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466771 << it's more complicated. turks believed that it is below the dignity of a warrior (you have to remember - for a stretch about a degree of magnitude longer than "modernity", being the guy who beat up the cows, bipedal or otherwise, and took their shit was the only respectable line of work for a healthy male ; starting with the romans) to learn languages. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:34 asciilifeform: not that quota would have helped.
mircea_popescu: in their view, strangely mirrored by various other failed warrior castes, such as the manchuku or the usg, translation is a whore's job.
mircea_popescu: this view may even be correct ; but then their inability to maintain abundant, loyal whores is very striking. it's such an obvious point of failure, after all. but hey, not that i don't understand them - the whore will kneel lovingly, but not before every idiot. and being a self-indulgent idiot is so much... easier... and nicer... and pushing yourself so... hmm... is it even compatible with the dignity of warrior ? ain't that
mircea_popescu: what you do to slaves ?
mircea_popescu: and then it blows up.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466772 << no bojum, basic or otherwise. the problem is long solved and the solution well known. i even published it, but you overlooked. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:37 asciilifeform: the basic unsolvable boojum here is that 'meritocracy' is ultimately a form of buluceala.
mircea_popescu: "The #bitcoin-assets aristocracy is not incompetent. Whether in anyone's estimation others not named are just as or even more competent is immaterial : arbitrariety is not the problem, incompetence is. The #bitcoin-assets aristocracy is not particularly fixed, at least in the sense of it being extensible (in fact the list was 25 names long earlier). Therefore, objections on this line will have to be a lot more refined than si
mircea_popescu: mply "it's undemocratic and therefore bad" or "it's unrepresentative and therefore evil". Reality doesn't work that way."
mircea_popescu: the notion that meritocracy means "EVERY meritous individual" gets a place is buluceala out and out, and has nothing to do with meritocracy. such a socialist rewriting of the concept is an insult to humanity in the first place ; but to sit and wonder why the cardboard cut "in the shape of a car" and with car written on it doesn't take you places... c;mon.
mircea_popescu: meritocracy means that all involved are competent ; not, pointedly not, that all competent are involved.
mircea_popescu: and yesterday's discussion with hanbot diana_coman et all is very apropos : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-14#1466552 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 19:40 mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: as phf says, "it's nice to make an effort to see the competent are accidentally included". there's no promise there, nor can be. the only promise is that the shitheads won't long survive.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well no shit. but the usg variant specifically lacks a mechanism for 'you are competent but sorry we're out of jam'
mircea_popescu: hence the jew quotas.
asciilifeform: which is what BingoBoingo's link was about, aha
asciilifeform: the added lolspice is also from usg's inability to admit that, e.g., princeton admission, is ration of nomenklatura membership
asciilifeform: vs 'edyooocashin'
asciilifeform: (which is nominally 'infinite' and 'hyoooman right!1111' etc)
mircea_popescu: and you know, in the endless "protocol vs promise" thing (such as - if you free man from labour, you will get incredible developments in culture and civilisation (promise) ; or else you'll get a horde of decayed re-monkeys (protocol) | respectively "if you include women in the political process, you'll get the fundamental if unobvious points to males, like this one, well included and represented into the public matters (promi
mircea_popescu: se) | you'll get a bunch of http://trilema.com/2016/stfu-attention-whore-culture/ (protocol))
mircea_popescu: in general it is directly obvious to a woman that "yeah you have a nice cock, but i'm full ty". somehow the point is an egological insult to the healthy male.
asciilifeform: simpler than this, even, usgocracy has no provision for arbitrary cuts. given as anybody arbitrarily excluded from whatever ends up forming interest group, 'pumping his rights', etc. and buluceala.
mircea_popescu: (to ease the work of the research-scientists and chemists of world renown, egology is a husserlian concept.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform su had a very similar problem. they all do - turks kinda had to kill all their brothers, including their mother's other sons.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that the woman's clintonicity was 2/3 of the reason guy even had a shot at sultanhood.
mircea_popescu: it;s a bitch not more novel and general literary exploration of that conflict has been produced by the oh-so-unignorant west. it's a fucking fascinating situation.
asciilifeform: hey, everybody eats their parents
asciilifeform: one way or another.
mircea_popescu: today is the day you, a healthy, talented, good riding and accomplished poet of a man, go to your mother who is this woman that saved your life as a 3yo and shared all the ups and downs of the past two decades,
asciilifeform: eating siblings is optional, depending on how small is the box you live in.
mircea_popescu: to tell her that well... ima strangle all your babies, you may call me chronos now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note that they never ate the mother.
asciilifeform: only because mother had an ablative coating of spare sultans
mircea_popescu: not at all.
mircea_popescu: i believe the key to understanding ottoman poetry (which, btw, was very accomplished) is in this tension.
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mircea_popescu: and i did not say strangle idly - it was the method for that situation. no idea if you've ever choked anyone but it is a) deeply sexual and b) probably the easiest way to go, outside of freezing, which they had no access to.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise ottoman executions rather eastern in their excruciating approach.
asciilifeform: eh they didn't choke, they strangled
asciilifeform: (as in cut off circulation)
asciilifeform: this was carefully specced
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yes. but i don't expect you'd do this in the bedroom, it's bad for the brain.
mircea_popescu: so choking closest experience. imo it carries.
asciilifeform: fair
asciilifeform: the turks did it with a bowstring though, not bare hands
asciilifeform: so not so sexy
asciilifeform: two strong blokes pulling each end.
mircea_popescu: tryitsometime
asciilifeform: relatedly, i was reading a thing re 19th c performers, and one of the tricks lost to modernity is the sport hanging
asciilifeform: where folks would string themselves up, properly, with a noose, and (most of the time) live
asciilifeform: bouncing to and fro.
asciilifeform: to epic roar of crowds.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not entirely lost. much to my shock and awe, was recently in an oglaf!
asciilifeform: yeah i recall.
asciilifeform: but only there.
phf: w.s. burroughs wrote about that one a bunch (he had a general obsession with hanging)
mircea_popescu: the problem there is, well... "what's the best way to jack off ?" "eh, get kournikova to do it."
asciilifeform: aboard dirigible, naturally
mircea_popescu: hanging, what's that, couldn't find someone that'd care enough ?
asciilifeform: i always found austro-hungarian hanging to be interesting
asciilifeform: does everybody know what this was ?
phf: details plx
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, well i dunno if you know or not, but anyway - at the same time women contemplating a career in porn were more than willing to shoot a few features for the more respectable sites ~for free, because they gained popularity and a stamp of quality.
asciilifeform: the kind where the rope is perhaps an arm long, and the hangman has to twist yer head just-so to snap it, using rope as a fulcrum
mircea_popescu: ~same thing was reprised with the "leaked" "sex tapes" by proletariat whores, aka "pop singers"
mircea_popescu: anyway : as i watched the woman be in 50% of the shots and never ever win anything, it occured to me that maybe she's doing the same thing, only much better ?
mircea_popescu: i never pursued the matter and by now i guess she'd be old. but anyway.
asciilifeform is too thick to see the connection
mircea_popescu: maybe you don't need a dirigible ?
asciilifeform: it is almost at the level of postulate, that folks who have dirigible are those who don't need.
mircea_popescu: well no, if she's working she's working, save for a few months and get a proper handjob.
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu specifically explained that this is not how pro grade whores work ?
asciilifeform: that it is more like buying plutonium than milk
asciilifeform: i.e. you gotta 'be someone.'
mircea_popescu: anyway, review the woman's record, she smells like a fixed up wonder from a mile away. "you can't fix the champ", sez rod steiger. she never lost... to anyone outside of the tops.
mircea_popescu: if the ru mob had any brains, she'd have been exactly that, inna.ru
mircea_popescu: oh nm, birdy sez she married.... wait for this one... enrique iglesias!
mircea_popescu: bnwahjahaha o lordy.
asciilifeform in the depths of his pit, has heard of none of these people
mircea_popescu: son of julio ; a sort of latino michael. they still trot him out, propped against some wood and a chick or two to sell perfume or w/e
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466778 << aaahahahaha what, alf went to agricultural college ?! dudewhat, like the kursk state agricultural academy ?! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:39 asciilifeform: that is where most folks go. incl. asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: u. of md.
mircea_popescu: justabout ?
mircea_popescu: how's the party scene
asciilifeform: it, like all of the others, was originally an agronomic thing, eons ago. and there are still signs of it everywhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: today there is precious little left but for the party.
asciilifeform: these are generally a snore imho.
mircea_popescu: if i had parents not only idiotic enough to insist i get a degree but actually brain-manged enough to do this in the us, i'd have gone to arizona u. definitely.
asciilifeform: but yes, they still have a good chunk of campus devoted to animals, and fields for 'test crop', etc.
asciilifeform: even a motherfucking beehive.
mircea_popescu: few summers back, took girls to field to observe beehives and other such orchard lovely things. motherfucking bee came out of nowhere, stung me in the ear.
asciilifeform: happenz
asciilifeform: i can walk into my back yard right now and get stung by 7 types of insect.
mircea_popescu: that bee had it in for me.
asciilifeform: in one evening.
asciilifeform: we even have something called a 'ground wasp' here
asciilifeform: it comes out of burrow and machineguns your feet
asciilifeform: repeatedly
asciilifeform: even goes through socks
mircea_popescu: evil.
asciilifeform: these lands, they be cursed.
mircea_popescu: so tuition is by now like 50k a year huh.
asciilifeform: approx.
asciilifeform: and this is the 'cheap' sort.
mircea_popescu: nah, it's the expensive sort. upenn et co. the cheap sort do 10k instate-20-odd k out of state. exactly like a community/agricollege.
asciilifeform: iirf those turned into 50.
asciilifeform: *iirc
mircea_popescu: i'm looking at teh data.
asciilifeform: md was a 10/20 a decade ago.
mod6: <+shinohai> ;;later tell mod6 http://ephemeralp2p.durazo.us/42bb769b817d7b02f237f1754ab7c1287880dc59547f30af28208ff21a3caff6 << ahh cool! what's it do?
shinohai: hold on I'll bring it to ur chan
mod6: <+shinohai> ;;later tell mod6 my tbot can now add/remove tickets, little ugly but working :D << ah, ok. are you wanting to take yours all the way?
mod6: what i also want to build is a CI thingy for trb
shinohai: just as a backup at least cuz i love t so much
mod6: someone drops in their vpatch somewhere, it verifies that it doesn't have to be rebased, then spins up an instance somewhere and builds the full orchastra, and then runs tests against it.
mod6: automagically.
mircea_popescu: that sounds pretty spiffy. large job tho
asciilifeform: neato
asciilifeform: but sorta duplicates the things that you gotta do on your end anyway
asciilifeform: when writing a patch
mod6: yeah, bunch of stuff there. something to work towards.
mod6: yah, but this verifies stuff for historical purposes and helps regression test a bit.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466784 << not that they've not earned it, but as far as i'm concerned tmsr is here to take a bite out of that market. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:43 asciilifeform: they ~will~ have one. it is, to use mircea_popescutronic terminology, simply a question of how thick the spiked club they will be raped with until submitting.
mod6: everyone should do these things on their own.
mod6: but... still.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's good mod6
mod6: <+shinohai> just as a backup at least cuz i love t so much << ok no worries then, just wanna ensure we're not duplicating work and what not.
mod6: ok.
mod6: if anyone has some interesting in working on a CI project with ole mod6, lemme know. it'll take some doing, but it could be pretty worthwhile.
mod6: it should be that anyone in L1 can use it really.
mod6: anyone outside can get their vpatch "sponsored" after review & needsRebase returns false
mircea_popescu: :D
mircea_popescu: check that out.
shinohai: Excellent work this month tho mod6
mod6: o7
mod6: im ciked that phuctor is crushing keys while i sleep, ride the train, eat a sandwich
mod6: i wanna write a snarffer for this http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/rss that tweets these things out
mircea_popescu: not that much of a priority. let them read the logs, what.
mod6: was thinking it'd be neat to cross-ref the email to some live twitter acct and tag 'em
mircea_popescu: imo going the wrong way.
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: point's been made, let em stew in denial now for a little bit, we come back to it later.
mircea_popescu: you don't argue uphill with a dumbass. you just smack him now and again.
asciilifeform: twatter will close the acct for 'abuse' and work - wasted.
mod6: like this guys email: Alan Cox <alan@etchedpixels.co.uk>; goes to: https://twitter.com/etchedpixels (probably)
mircea_popescu: seriously, much better things to do with your time.
mircea_popescu: not that the idea is without merit, or technologically uninteresting. but the move is politically inexpedient.
mod6: fair enough
danielpbarron: ;;later tell jurov may I please get some coppers today?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: BingoBoingo: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1463329268243.png
asciilifeform: was BingoBoingo into this subj yet when we did the crematorium thread ?
asciilifeform: (somewhere deep in the logz...)
jurov: danielpbarron: depends on how much of some
danielpbarron: at least 100 mn
mircea_popescu: this'll be a heated auction i take it ?
mircea_popescu: jurov noob also wanted some fwis.
jurov: in any case, i need refill, can be 10BTC again
mircea_popescu: jurov will do. trade in game ?
jurov: y
shinohai: jurov btw i finally made account, how to add qntra ?
jurov: shinohai: you send me gpg signed request to add all your qntra shares to coinbr account X , and if you want, to do it automatically from now on
shinohai: kk thanks!
deedbot: [Trilema] The Eastern "RPG" - http://trilema.com/2016/the-eastern-rpg/
shinohai: ;;later tell jurov http://ix.io/ENz
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: shinohai: done
shinohai: ty jurov! <3
mircea_popescu: and in other funs, http://67.media.tumblr.com/0b7e4f815bc4a7e80d0ba6595bbd208a/tumblr_mwncsxcdli1smo4l7o1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: these "forensic experts" identifying "the wallet addresses used by the hackers" are such experts indeed.
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