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asciilifeform: thing is only a replacement for pogo in that it does >= what pogo did and 'only' costs 2.5x moar
asciilifeform: instead of 5x
asciilifeform: (like every other known device that does >= pogo)
shinohai: Case looks to be brushed aluminum or something, appears well built.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it is ~astonishingly~ solid
asciilifeform: as in, you could crack a skull.
shinohai: "To Gavin, from tmsr" *crack*
asciilifeform: anyway it isn't a wunderwaffen, just a $50 really-nice-pogo.
asciilifeform: at least once i finally pop a shell on it.
shinohai: Do keep us apprised I may consider working one into lab budget at that price.
shinohai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 536.22, vol: 5387.36655018 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 524.363, vol: 5771.7118 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 535.4, vol: 27767.72284591 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 455.0, vol: 0.91928901 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 544.455639, vol: 51316.58910000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 534.88, vol: 2018.13619674 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 535.98981, vol: 51.22597362 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
shinohai: ;;more
gribble: 539.779921492
BingoBoingo: $s cookie chief
a111: 2 results for "cookie chief", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=cookie%20chief
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1475029 << it really all proceeds from discussing naggum's thing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 23:50 ben_vulpes: aight maybe some naggum as well. but there are extended discussions of political time in the logs.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1475036 << leaving aside various minor points, the large standing dispute currently is whether whatever bullshit "control technology" has or has not meaningful impact on "free computing". and you're, unrepentently to the point of denial, on the wrong side of it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 23:59 asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu predict that other nas gadgets will be found and i - that they won't ? or sumthinglikethat?
mircea_popescu: that's the large thread : that whatosever shall happen, it will serve the state partly and the republic fully ; without exception and without respite but apparent and momentary.
deedbot: [Qntra] Spread Between Chinese And Other Exchanges Settles With Dollar Lower Against Bitcoin - http://qntra.net/2016/06/spread-between-chinese-and-other-exchanges-settles-with-dollar-lower-against-bitcoin/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i stand by my hypothesis. the pogos etc. are NOT workstations.
asciilifeform: and new workstations ARE unavailable.
mircea_popescu: this is ~exactly like the one where you "can't" build your blog rather than obama's platform, because "commute" or whatever the reason was.
mircea_popescu: wholly pebkac.
asciilifeform: nah that's sloth.
asciilifeform: failure to fabricate opteron in kitchen - also sloth ?
mircea_popescu: that you take the same lump of shit, make "different" (to you!) figurines out of it and then call one fred and the other alison is not substantively interesting you realise.
mircea_popescu: it might be endearing to the woman interested in you, but it says not one inch about shit.
asciilifeform: can haz concrete ? where do i get NEW workstation.
mircea_popescu: i just gave you a list of concrete.
asciilifeform: or what, workstations somehow irrelevant now in mircea_popescu's planet.
mircea_popescu: the way concrete works is you have to swallow the concrete provided, not try and invent what at the time seems like "he won't be able to provide PINK CONCRETE!111"
asciilifeform: i dun see the relevance of where i put rubbish pastebins to anything.
mircea_popescu: so you have trouble respecting your own work. fine. what of it ?
BingoBoingo: Depends on the phosphorous content of the shit? Interesting restrictions on phosphorous containing fertilizers are being placed out of concern for "water quality" at a time when "peak phosphor" is a quiet concern...
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i thought phosphorus is good!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's wonderful and necessary! But... "green washing"
mircea_popescu: a
BingoBoingo: I mean you can skip phosphorous if you dun care that your plants develop non-retard roots.
BingoBoingo: *retard roots
shinohai: My shit glows in the dark due to high phosphorous content.
BingoBoingo: You know what thrives with low phosphorous retard roots? "Corn"
mircea_popescu: when i was growing up all sorta amateur dieteticians of the 3rd age were all liek "oh, eat that, it's good for you, has phosophorus"
BingoBoingo: Just pump all the anhydrous amonia you can into the soil, topgrowth is the only thing salable anyways.
BingoBoingo: Nevermind that some days are windy...
asciilifeform recalls when gardeners 'cheated with nitrates' and sold hypertrophied but 'inedible' produce in bazaar
asciilifeform: did they have nitrate panic in mircea_popesculand ?
mircea_popescu: now it's pretty much the "supermarket" norm innit
mircea_popescu: yeah.
asciilifeform: and aha, pretty sure it is sop in usa now.
mircea_popescu: can't beat cheap.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway ; i dun specifically mean to piss on your lone-flying-fortress parade. but you gotta appreciate it's a stylistical preference for interpreting reality, rather than actual reality.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is welcome to piss, the rocketz in the parade dun care!11
mircea_popescu: i bet you whatever you want just as we sit here there's some dude flying some desk somewhere (that used to be mahogany, and used to have plants around! ahh cold war!) to whom we seem the very perennial rats
mircea_popescu: that because... well... we are.
mircea_popescu: "haven't these rednecks figured out anarchy dun work already!!11"
mircea_popescu: etc.
asciilifeform: also i dun have a porthole into Actual Reality (tm) here, only the other one.
asciilifeform: and yeah surely.
mircea_popescu: yeah you do, you just dun wanna look!
mircea_popescu: the secret i'm sharing is that there's no monogamous relationship with reality : looking at any of them nude doesn't end your relationship. with any of them.
mircea_popescu: this magic is called context by the more perverse euros.
BingoBoingo: Question of the day, how did this man not blow all his money on chumpatron before getting 2.5 acre yard https://archive.is/MeYnF
shinohai: Right in mod6 's backyard!
BingoBoingo wondering if the product applied was glyphosate or diquat
BingoBoingo: If Diquat good luck applying seed or new sod for at least a month.
shinohai: Dear Lord Sithrak, please protect me from teamviewer haxxorz
BingoBoingo: Reddit DIY Projects https://www.reddit.com/r/electricians/comments/4m45uq/my_first_sub_panel/
BingoBoingo: "I'll have you know it's a load bearing sock"
shinohai: inb4 asciilifeform barfing
shinohai: All those positive comments, it's like gold stars from kindergarten teacher
asciilifeform: l0l vicegrips
mod6: <+shinohai> Right in mod6 's backyard! << lol srsly
mircea_popescu: is that thing from a "mining farm" ?
asciilifeform: soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
asciilifeform: i have a shell.
shinohai: \o/
asciilifeform: on ye olde piece-o-shit
shinohai: Is it turd worth polishing?
asciilifeform: is as described on box.
asciilifeform: ships with, of all things, 'fedora 12'.
shinohai: ewwww
asciilifeform: i had nfi it even existed on arm.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeterminate
asciilifeform: in other newz, an orlol, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/05/a-russian-warning.html
shinohai: http://www.seeker.com/male-spiders-attracted-to-young-big-fat-females-1834450018.html <<< American spiders rejoice
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 6853890073265 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Brian McDonald <brianm@ou.edu>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/403ADCADE94C1040C399D0ADBF2FB49D66B5C1265718AC90EDDF2906C904DF37
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/NQI
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, breakfast! http://67.media.tumblr.com/a2f1af6815917dc4ba5379c3ad333336/tumblr_o18gjxkGuG1u921buo1_500.gif
ben_vulpes: pretty weak output
mircea_popescu: yeah doesn't reallty get going proper w/o a kid.
ben_vulpes: but good morning all
ben_vulpes: neat find asciilifeform
asciilifeform: $s "brianm@ou.edu"
a111: 2 results for "\"brianm@ou.edu\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22brianm%40ou.edu%22
asciilifeform: must've been one of the ones missed on account of the unique-id crapola.
asciilifeform: (this is the 3rd factor found for this - non-mirrored!1111111 - mod.)
mircea_popescu: kinda low factors too
asciilifeform: these all have low factors
asciilifeform: (iirc nobody but some clearly deliberate troll had ~high~ one)
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 30421 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Jurov (Test of SSH->PGP RSA pubkey convertor #2 - purposedly b0rkt); ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D52511520F8C3A1153E5FF232315A740A39CB20508CA953A0B0A9B5A62EBA6C9
asciilifeform: ^ congrats jurov
jurov: yw. why the webinterface still shows "Ok, for now"?
jurov: ah now it's updated
asciilifeform: cache
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1644
asciilifeform: (where did the deedbot auto-title thing go ?)
ben_vulpes: awesome!
deedbot: [Loper OS] Terraforming the “MyCloud Mini” : TTY. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1644 ☟︎
trinque: deedbot never did that, does do RSS tho
asciilifeform: ah
trinque: not that it'd be bad to add.
asciilifeform: the pathetic part is that my 'mycloud' appears to have nuked its own nand somehow (not, fortunately, the uboot, but the idiot fedora thing. apparently it was mounting itself read-write - on a motherfucking eeprom! - and didn't like being reset a dozen times when i fiddled with the probes)
asciilifeform: gotta love the poetteringola.
asciilifeform: MODERN!11111
asciilifeform: CODE OF CONDUCT!!!!!!!
asciilifeform: the only cure for these folks, i suspect. is to SPIN LIKE PROPELLERS on mircea_popescu's raging cock.
ben_vulpes: d'aww
ben_vulpes: that's pretty funny.
asciilifeform: tragicomedic.
asciilifeform: anyway thing oughta be safe to use so long as nand is never mounted r/w.
asciilifeform: which... WHY THE FUCK would you.
ben_vulpes: i don't know much about computers, less about tiny things, but this is the segment of memory that holds the thing's os, yes?
ben_vulpes: and it has aux storage for whatever else, yes?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thing ships with a 256M flash, which is partitioned into pieces
asciilifeform: it boots from the bottom, into its chinese fork of widely-used loader 'uboot'
asciilifeform: somewhat analogous to, e.g., 'grub' on pc
asciilifeform: precisely like pogo did.
asciilifeform: after that it load kernel from the next partition and boots that
asciilifeform: like pogo.
asciilifeform: kernel mounts its root partition (or tries to, mine no longer does!) - also like pogo. or your pc.
asciilifeform: that'd be all.
ben_vulpes: because root partition should be read only.
asciilifeform: on embedded box, running off cheap flash - surely
ben_vulpes: yeah, herp.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/8d12feaa-cb19-4c6c-ba79-eda5f9c905b9 << what we get now.
asciilifeform: more hilariously, the FIRST exception barf is NORMAL on the stock fw
asciilifeform: (back when it booted)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu was not wrong: 'web'-style programming is slowly spreading everywhere.
asciilifeform: ^ alert reader will notice that the 'mycloud' DOES have a working rtc battery.
trinque: nowai
asciilifeform: trinque: little thing, on underside of pcb.
trinque: very neat
asciilifeform: the daughterboard appears to have only 1 led on it, and nothing else!
asciilifeform: and said led isn't even really visible from outside the chassis
asciilifeform: this great mystery.
asciilifeform: (it has unpopulated pads for what appears to be additional usb jacks and a switch)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thing has no 'aux storage' other than a big internal coffin for 2.5" hdd, external sata jack, and some usb.
shinohai: The led is meant to send all your seekrets back to China by flashing them in morse code.
asciilifeform: thing has a buncha unpopulated gpio's.
asciilifeform: only that 1 blinkenlight tho, not counting the nic jack's.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thing can be, apparently, booted from tftp, pogo-style.
ben_vulpes: nifty indeed
asciilifeform: unlike pogo with hdd in its strange angular cradle, these things will handily fit in that colo rack BingoBoingo had subscribed to, where they give you five inch pedestals.
asciilifeform: fwiw.
asciilifeform: the one pogo item missing is the sd slot - which imho was ~useless.
ben_vulpes: due to r/w speed iirc?
asciilifeform: aha
ben_vulpes: mhm.
asciilifeform: sd is optimized for camera (light duty, short bursts of write)
asciilifeform: you can buy reasonably fast ones but the bus is a bottleneck and their cost approaches that of proper ssd.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz,
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu sks-2016 sawed apart (took ~30 hrs) and now pumping in.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: win.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen punkman
gribble: punkman was last seen in #trilema 2 weeks, 6 days, 12 hours, 26 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <punkman> it does but you need various packages to compile it
mircea_popescu: how the hell does this work ;/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's mostly inhabiting the ruinz
asciilifeform: along with funkenstein, thestringpuller, fluffypony, and kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: as time goes on i guess we'll be seeing a lot more of this low level maggotry.
mircea_popescu: "hey, just wanted to make a living blabla"
mircea_popescu: anyways.
asciilifeform: i have nfi.
asciilifeform: not everybody wants to play in same box, i suppose.
mircea_popescu: that's for items with will.
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: here, it was "oh, mp got free box why not" sorta zakorusism
asciilifeform: lel, when ever did mp give out free shitz, you pay in body fluidz
mircea_popescu: right ; that you then forget to deliver.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu still suffering from his sinus thing ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, wiped. i guess once tbot's here ima put the silkroad dump thing in there, maybe it's still around by the time someone figures out the world enough.
mircea_popescu: somewhat./
mircea_popescu: ;;rate punkman -1 timewaster.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
mircea_popescu: eh.
mircea_popescu: $rate punkman -1 timewaster.
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/787f1bc3-697e-4c16-ab4d-f4ba5327cbf2/
mircea_popescu: $v 8D48CF1AEB9C9948EC97CAA65468010F733A03D063160739D8FCAFE3BCBB7D73
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of punkman from 1 to -1 << timewaster.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if all it is, is a tarball of crud, i can pry out the pgp keyz myself ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's not anything currently ; other than a job for someone. a someone a lot like him.
asciilifeform: iirc it was public somewhere ?
mircea_popescu: you know how in the old days night watchmen all had a lame leg ?
asciilifeform: aha!
mircea_popescu: there's jobs for sorts of people. this was a job for punkman.
asciilifeform: but if watchman is a drunk, healthy man is stuck with job
mircea_popescu: no, the police just beats people found stealing 3x as hard.
asciilifeform: this also.
mircea_popescu: to make up for the times they get away with it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in other oildrums of fluidz, we have tty on new b0x.
mircea_popescu: cool. now remind me why this was needed / useful and most importantly, how it became a priority.
asciilifeform: it isn't priority. discovered that thing exists, bought, determined pinout, published diagram, put thing in crate for later.
asciilifeform: ~1h.
asciilifeform: posted for aspiring pogotronicists.
asciilifeform: as for where useful - pretty much anywhere cheap nonx86 server thing is called for.
asciilifeform: my idea was, here, to give it to the 'one legged' folk.
asciilifeform: so it can go and happen without me touching it.
asciilifeform: but so far this works, in most cases, like the punkman thing 'worked.'
mircea_popescu: quite. i wouldn't bother with it. "making a life" so that everyone can have one neglects the obvious point that if one fucking wanted one, he'd have made it long ago. ☟︎
asciilifeform: which is to say, it sits and waits for me! grrrrrr
mircea_popescu: too many good places to waste away, most of which also give away pills, along with the food. why bother.
asciilifeform: at least now i have 15 of 16 shiva hands free again.
mircea_popescu: yeah but try and fill them from a sorted list
mircea_popescu: rather than kid in the candy store
asciilifeform: 1 hand is always reserved for chance finds.
asciilifeform: 'luck favours prepared mind' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: very much so.
asciilifeform: ;;seen Framedragger ☟︎
gribble: Framedragger was last seen in #trilema 19 hours, 11 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <Framedragger> kthx
mircea_popescu learned this as a teen, whenceupon leaving the shop cashier was "ask me out". "aren't you busy ?!" genuinely puzzled mp. "not for you".
mircea_popescu: girl that knows what she wants outperforms any other girl.
asciilifeform: this - always.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-02#1475232 <<< was this where you wanted the pgp keys extracted from https://www.gwern.net/Black-market%20archives ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-02 18:50 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if all it is, is a tarball of crud, i can pry out the pgp keyz myself
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah, that was the one. also wanted the ratings reconstructed in an inspectable wot, if possible, and any other gems one might be able to provide
asciilifeform: sr had a standardized rating system ?!
mircea_popescu: ~nobody cares about the druggies but policemen trying to live easily ; and anthropologists.
mircea_popescu: and arthropods, i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it had ~something.
mircea_popescu: not properly made, no. sort of a temple rather than a hospital. still, kept some records.
asciilifeform: probably best to treat this find as archaeological, rather than as part of actual wot
mircea_popescu: absolutely.
asciilifeform: (otherwise smacks of the mormon practice of 'converting' the dead)
mircea_popescu: we even lolled about this back a month ago or w/e
asciilifeform: ah hm we did didn't we.
asciilifeform: Moduli Waiting for Test: 712
mircea_popescu: that's all ?
asciilifeform: (half hour in !)
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: what's this, like 2 years' delta on the sks ?
shinohai: ~1.6TB O.o
asciilifeform: 1y
mircea_popescu: shinohai most of it is shitty pictures of the same boring crap over and over
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-02#1475251 >>>> relevant vintage lul >> http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/l_tomlin.htm ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-02 19:02 mircea_popescu: quite. i wouldn't bother with it. "making a life" so that everyone can have one neglects the obvious point that if one fucking wanted one, he'd have made it long ago.
shinohai: I seriously need to get another SSD with mega capacity.
mircea_popescu: shinohai you don't have to unpack the whole thing at the same time, it's made of parts
shinohai: ah werd, thanx
asciilifeform: http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7380-16 << l0ltr0n1c
asciilifeform: 'CFTC Orders Bitcoin Exchange Bitfinex to Pay $75,000 for Offering Illegal Off-Exchange Financed Retail Commodity Transactions and Failing to Register as a Futures Commission Merchant'
mircea_popescu: check it out, usg so desperate is even trying to co-opt shambling forum scams now.
mircea_popescu: what, cftc is going to sprinkle some magic water and suddenly bitfinex is going to actually be dealing in bitcoin, somehow ?
mircea_popescu: oh right, as long as they keep it from going up, right. heh.
mircea_popescu: fucktards already.
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/w11p9Ij.jpg << 'power on indicator' ☟︎
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-02#1475297 <<< lolz ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-02 19:46 asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/w11p9Ij.jpg << 'power on indicator'
deedbot: [Qntra] Teamviewer User Information Hacked - http://qntra.net/2016/06/teamviewer-user-information-hacked/
deedbot: [serialized delusions] Converting RSA public keys from OpenSSH into GPG - http://explo.yt/post/2016/05/20/Parsing-OpenSSH-RSA-keys-in-Python
jurov: asciilifeform: ^ snippet for your perusal
asciilifeform: american military lulz, http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/32126574/blue-angels-jet-crashes-in-smyrna
asciilifeform: jurov: neato
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: "crashes" ?!
mircea_popescu: apparently crashes.
asciilifeform: mowed the grass, if you prefer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at first i thought it was the proper smyrna
asciilifeform: eh no
mircea_popescu: ya know... whadda ya mean "crashed"
asciilifeform: iirc these regularly explode -- sometimes into audience, as in rammstein
asciilifeform: long, proud tradition !11111
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: small jets aren't particularly reliable
asciilifeform: esp not when acrobatic
mircea_popescu: well... the large ones aren't either, at least not the way the us builds em
asciilifeform: or, for that matter, built to last
asciilifeform: they were, at least in principle, built to go up quickly, launch rocket, and then die
asciilifeform: (why not simply launch rocket from the earth is an exercise for the reader...)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (why not simply launch rocket from the earth is an exercise for the reader...) << "Jobs" program
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and strafing aboriginals, dunforget
BingoBoingo: Hey, the F-4 that did 'Nam didn't have gun to strafe with
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 536.37, vol: 3869.53224643 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 525.39, vol: 4148.20158 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 536.77, vol: 16207.63102277 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 516.13, vol: 6.982 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 544.207554, vol: 33923.53980000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 534.94, vol: 1776.81822872 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 540.96984, vol: 45.04970153 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 540.110360595