deedbot: ImHash voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: so i watched that alphadog movie elliot kid was all infatuated with.
ImHash: hi I'm from bitcoin talk
mircea_popescu: jesus christ is it a steaming pile of shit (with bruce willis and sharon stone, incomprehensibly). but the screenplay reads like it was written by reddit.
ImHash: lol I thought I could ask here :D
mircea_popescu: lol shinohai teh tardstalk folk are something else. "ok iam follow instruction your program". dude... buy a fucking period.
mircea_popescu: the ^ above is running a "fund management program". got a little confused.
mod6: it's about to be moot very soon i think :]
mod6: makefiles. i just tested my changes with the deeds in place. works.
mod6: needs some polishing, and an appropriate vpatch and such, but yeah, we're close.
mod6: see, now, we have two different scripts; one to build while pulling items from the inet, and one for offline builds; the makefiles will combine these two capabilities.
mod6: eitherway, works to bridge the gap until that part is complete.
trinque: deedbot is becoming a package repo of sorts.
mircea_popescu: trinque somewhat unsurprising a major part of what we want notarized is computer code, in retospect.
trinque: makefiles don't rebuild the buildroot step more than once, so a gentleman could emplace that just as with the deeds, after having built one
trinque: would be interesting to see a geoip map of these
deedbot: Palaboy voiced for 30 minutes.
hanbot: hey mod6 99994 test worked flawlessly for me tonight. also, my testbox seems healthy again, available for further whatevers.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: i would dearly like for the second click on a log timestamp to not populate the "from" query parameter (if that's even what that is in your system)
trinque: if we're making our complaints, slashes are not for separating parameters
ben_vulpes: yeah, that's what my parens were about
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: if you're really attached to the second-click-extend-highlight-range, consider updating the anchor in the url to use the bottom of the range
a111: Logged on 2016-08-06 21:00 mircea_popescu: the major problem in poker isn't "fair dealing", it's debotting it. but i have a ready solution for this problem too, and im persuaded it's complete.
BingoBoingo: Twenty percent of the respondents declined to pick either of the two leaders in the poll of 1,397 likely voters, which was concluded Aug .29. "
mod6: <+hanbot> hey mod6 99994 test worked flawlessly for me tonight. also, my testbox seems healthy again, available for further whatevers. << hey! good deal, thanks for giving it a shot :]
mircea_popescu: and what ~precisely~ do you mean with this "slashes are not for separating parameters" trinque ? like what, directories exist objectively ? no more trilema/year/name ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nothing to do with l2. i am a man of simple solutiona yes ; i am not a man of copy/pasting holy nonsense, no.
mircea_popescu: " Even before the FBI identified new cyber attacks on two separate state election boards, the Department of Homeland Security began considering declaring the election a "critical infrastructure," giving it the same control over security it has over Wall Street and and the electric power grid." << consider the preposterousness embedded in here. really bitch, you have control over wallstreet ?
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: regarding the latter point, i'm not sure about the anchor pointing to the last line in the range. i considered it, but if i give someone a link to a chunk of lines, makes sense for them to start reading from the top, no? however, best is probably to have small jump buttons/links to be able to jump to beginning/end of range. <- so i'll do that.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah, yeah, you're supposed to click around, otherwise it surely is too tedious!
mircea_popescu: right click on start line and if i want to make it a range i just edit a value.
mircea_popescu: more generally Framedragger , nevermind the swamp of little shepainting bullshit, little buttons or whatever. first get the line reading bot going ; and the search.
Framedragger: (i suppose it's better than the new web nonsense where "awesome devbro javascript" retains some info that is not part of the actual url, so you can't change shit and depend on the shitty js interface for navigating around..)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yep, those are priorities. mkay
mircea_popescu: yes. the usg.web war on the url for the past decades has been nothing short of indicative. imbeciles are so butthurt about individual control, they can't fucking stand urls. gotta hide them! gotta destroy functionality! god fucking forbid the user is at some point in control of anything!
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160831/from:95/to:95#95 << i'll leave you with the observation that of the two people i named to chair the bitcoin foundation years ago, one's been doing a lot of work and the other's been doing a lot of hurr. on the continuum between mod6 and pete_d you're ever sliding towards the end opposite to what i'd imagine you're aiming for, and at some point it'll become a matter of, "well, if he hasn't fi
mircea_popescu: gured out what works and what doesn't in lo all these many years, he never is figuring it out."
deedbot: holgerkpedersen voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: gm mircea_popescu yes it seems there were 2 new Eulora ppl contacted me on bitcointalk overnight, but saw one made it here in logs.
shinohai: There was a guy named ImHash and another using tardstalk handle `VladimirLenin`
shinohai: The ImHash guy had the most atrocious spelling and grammar of any potential recruit I've met thus far.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i think a lot of non-english speaking folk are reading that.
deedbot: mexxer voiced for 30 minutes.
mexxer: So following a post in bitcointalk.org and generated my GPG, How do I register it with IRC?"Sorry but I am a little new to this kind of things"
shinohai: ok, now just register key with deedbot by typing: $register <your gpg fingerprint>
deedbot: mexxer voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: mexxer: ok, now just register key with deedbot by typing: $register <your gpg fingerprint>
deedbot: VAodminnTer voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: the advantages of this approach. we find out things about the internets.
shinohai: sorry. please ignore my morth and continue.
deedbot: sellbtctraderz voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: trinque hmm, turns out it's not slow - just silent if no key found. can has an "not found" thing plox ?
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 that key is my correct one, I did switch pre-split from #b-a
Framedragger: i am not understand for this share" good stuff
shinohai: I guess it is for noobs ... I just get amusement from watching all this.
shinohai: And the inevitable "imma be rich" Filipinos that answer.
Framedragger: whoops wrong window, sorry for spam, i am not understand
mircea_popescu: it's a complicated problem. world is world, forum is forum. wut do ?
shinohai: Maybe forum *is* the world heh?
mircea_popescu: i dunno dude, a large part of what i like about #trilema is that it doesn't consist of above examples.
mircea_popescu: it's just... kinda easy to forget just how many layers there are in "sexually unattractive" in practice.
shinohai goes back and treads Trilema article on Rabbi teaching torah to the ewe.
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shinohai: `cutting-edge security` not seen in any other game of hot potato EVAH!
shinohai: Is his life just one purposeless walk to? Or is there a plan?
BingoBoingo: Haven't looked, but why does it write like a cetain dude broken at conception?
mod6: shinohai: ah, ok great. just wanted to make sure.
mircea_popescu: everybody reads trilema, including the local tards. i can spot them, too, i go to a cafe or w/e, there's this dude in a corner being all weird in the specific manner.
mircea_popescu: well actually maybe you don't know, wtf do i know. but anyway, there's a very peculiar thing people/kids do when the inconceivable happens ; like joe di maggio walks into dunkin donuts
trinque: mircea_popescu │ you know, "omg i'm not looking looking" thing << afraid to look directly into the trilema, eh?
trinque: and yep, gonna add some response mesages to herr deedbot
mircea_popescu: well, especially when i take my head off, place it on the table, and feed it icecream on the shorter path
mircea_popescu: to quote, "oh no, i wouldn't do THAT. *pause* there MAY have been some instances... in THE PAST! but that's all ancient history now."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yup, guy's got a pretty good stare going.
mircea_popescu: lol this "purposeless walks and golf" bit is pretty shiny. deliberate parody ?
mircea_popescu: i think ima save this though. "purposeless walks and golf". nb.
mircea_popescu: such goldmine. "baby, just the tip!" applied to enthusiasms etc.
mircea_popescu: btw, since i mentioned
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160831/from:36/to:36#36 : it is directly evident why it's such a big deal for elliot kid. leaving aside all the insane preposterous nonsense worthy of a tucker max / wolf of wallstreet / suicide kings production : there's one sex scene, in which this kid (totally whitebread, goes to school and does his homework 15yo with no tattoos) is kidnapped by a bunch of derps, and then
mircea_popescu: some models who in practice hang out with them (this almost never happens, even in california) lure/force him into a pool. it's not exactly ~against~ his wishes ; it's irrespective of them, which is the point - males, esp young, esp virgin, are very fucking shy, and i dunno that this even exists, act of male devirgination which is not out and out "rape" by the female. certainly not at a sane age for it (such as 15).
mircea_popescu: but once is not enough : once in the pool, they blindfold him, and then the one twu wuv girl lures him over by whispering "polo" long after he's stoped saying "marco", which, again, is the point.
mircea_popescu: elliot is right in figuring that he'd have perhaps functioned normally, or at least had a better chance at it, in this sort of context.
mircea_popescu: and yes the world is ~so~ cruel : the better have it easier, and the crappier have it harder. because the world is not interested, to any degree, in survival of the everyone.
mircea_popescu: it IS unfair, and it is also deeply antiequalitarian that the better kid of their year get free jet engine ; while the crummier kids get ankle weights.
mircea_popescu: the kid in the pool was there because of his family relations.
mircea_popescu: fortune is by definition random when playing the powerball : you'll get half your money on average.
mircea_popescu: fortune is deeply not random when discussing girls. joe rapes rachel and as a result rachel is tankful and joe has a new slave. moe tries to talk to sarah and is forced to waste 30 hours doing "sensitivity training"
mircea_popescu: ironically, from this perspective the decision to drive to arizona to play lottery is even judicious. better odds than trying to play the pool party, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: if i believed my kids were going to be anything like me i'd even consider having some.
mircea_popescu: it's a field of "zero. likely zero. zero zero likely-meh. zero. zero zero zero. zero zero zero. zero zero zero. zero zero zero. zero zero zero. zero zero "
mircea_popescu: you know, actually a lot like how google go "brain" looks.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: so you have confidence in your ability to shape slavegurl into whatever form you please, then why not chitlin ? surely starting earlier has its advantages
mircea_popescu: i have no such confidence. some girls are extremely good at shaping themselves into an extremely sharp tool in the right sort of context ; and the result is by very far much sharper than anything ever produced naturally, or through alternative means.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it does not work for most women ; and i never tried nor would i be bothered to try on children.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: sure, but nor is fleisch und blut 'random scum off the street'
mircea_popescu: i mean, i see the point to a certain degree, the street in practice DOES select, for the worst. but i think he just meant "crapshot" rather than proper, street scum.
pete_dushenski sees that he's going to be defending biology now, it's so sure it's the wisest against two such opponents
mircea_popescu: problem is biology has no intention of defending you. reversal to the mean is the controlling phenomenon there.
mircea_popescu: if we are to learn anything from the history of the 2nd millennium, is that marrying performance and lineage is suicidal. so fucking costly a stupidity, in fact, as to sink monarchy, ie, the most perfect form of social organisation possible.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: granted, but sultan had whatever 200 pups, a couple were fit for higher life, so why not mp, sultan of tmsr ? too many castles needed to house them ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying it is impossible. i'm just saying it's a pretty distant bridge.
pete_dushenski: create tension, conflict, and competition in the brood, let winrar emerge therefrom
mircea_popescu: and who's gonna write the poems ? women only ? literature by females results in the collapse of the empire.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: winrar can write poems just fine. samurai seemed to at any rate
mircea_popescu: actually matching the japanese gender split of literary production and japanese political situation over time is bound to be shockingly instructive.
pete_dushenski: besides, what's life without a little risk, a little 'crapshot' now and again.
pete_dushenski: maybe child is crapshot too far, but it's a matter of degrees
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: less powerball and more poker world series
mircea_popescu: simple criterion : you can not guarantee you will never get the number 7. you can guarantee you will not have mulatto kid.
mircea_popescu: (amusingly, the reverse is impossible : black people ever so often end up with entirely white kid, because slavery.)
mircea_popescu: not quite what i had in mind for a couple model here :p
mircea_popescu: but you do have more control over the matter than over entropy source.
mircea_popescu: also there's a major problem with abstract criteria. i for instance don't grasp recursion.
mircea_popescu: i count self as perhaps middling student of recursion, as a soon to be 40yo. there's a lot to it, what do you want from me.
mircea_popescu: lol asciilifeform you should prolly write those articles.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this xerocopy argument, while at first convincing, readily recurses into a restatement of the children argument above ; but it is flawed because, as granma wittily observed, "cartile nu cer demincare" ; ie books need not be fed.
mircea_popescu: iirc we discussed this in the logs. recall, the no-splittable coins ?
mircea_popescu: until the coinbase halves, you can only use 50 btc ; then 25 and 12.5 etc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: was part of a larger discussion cca 2015ish of the problem of unboundness in bitcoin. even as it stands currently - you can end up with 2100000000000000 discrete items to keep track of ? really ?
mircea_popescu is too lazy to dig up the trilema piece holding exact figure (no, it's not this, a little lower)
mircea_popescu: consider for a second here : the year is i nthe future, the world is numerous planets, a single satoshi is worth trillions in today's money. literally, enough to buy a larger town.
mircea_popescu: and the cavallier "oh, we'll just introduce subdivisions" nonsense pushed by the prb folk utterly fails to consider the implications
mircea_popescu: just as every other "expert" opinion they ever came up with to date.
pete_dushenski doesn't want to appear ~too~ useful, lest ben_vulpes become overly attracted to this end of the continuum
mircea_popescu: no, today has been the day of giving nice fellows a hard time, let him suffer.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: if only your father had died in kaunas parachuting like he was supposed to, you'd be free of such burdens. alas.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Just shop for lumber and stone slabs. Teach the tot carpentry.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: apparently whatever derp developed >bitaps.com chose the wrong PR strategy and their block explorer et al are now instaspam'd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at the time part of the discussion was "making larger blocks".
mircea_popescu: moreover, the important point is, "where are the true large edges of this item".
mircea_popescu: anyway, not like the problem isn't both well understood and well solved.
mircea_popescu: we eventually migrate to sane bitcoin and that's that.
shinohai: It's a pearl necklace asciilifeform :D
shinohai: Just give her a few minutes ...