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asciilifeform: that makes 9000x moarsense, lol
mircea_popescu: http://www.armyofgod.com/Eric_RudolphBetweenTheLines_pdf_page1.html << in other lulz
asciilifeform: 404
mircea_popescu: that'd be the joke, yes.
asciilifeform: some folx, when they croak, all they get is a stone marked '404'.
mircea_popescu: (no, the "archive" wikipedia links to also doesn't have any content. the pantsuit will carefully link to dead pages of things)
asciilifeform: who, outside of the l0gz, remembers, e.g., erik frein.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, moron opted to make it a pdf, i don't care.
asciilifeform: i dun expect itd've made much diff if he stuck to godly 80col .txt .
mircea_popescu: it would be here.
asciilifeform: ( and chances are that it wasn't born pdf, the ustards tend to repackage errything they get their sticky hands on, in pdf , for obv reasons )
mircea_popescu: and then link to dead pages of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838633 puppets, and to imperial ersatz-archives of same, that are just as dead.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 mircea_popescu: just like the weev morons, writing "advertising" irc bots to advertise inept usg alt-agenda to me. because yea, totally, THAT'll work, and is the way to spend a youth.
mircea_popescu: and so on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FlLeK/?raw=true << just for you.
asciilifeform: missing the photo liquishit, but i dun expect you wanted it for anyffnig
asciilifeform: 'At 15, I wasn’t really up on my politics. I’d never seen any evidence of an impending United Nations takeover, but what did I know? I had, however, done a tour of duty in south Florida’s public schools where the teachers taught us guilt and self-hate, where drugs and violence were the norm. I no longer trusted the System. The Culture War that the Patriots spoke of was something I’d experienced first-hand. Unlike the Pentecos
asciilifeform: tals, who told us to become doormats, the Patriots talked about resistance. Talk of a coming war intrigued me. For the first time in my life, I felt like I had a purpose. Preparing for the coming conflagration held an incredible attraction for me.' etc etc
asciilifeform: reads sorta like eliot.
mircea_popescu: thanks.
asciilifeform: np
asciilifeform: 133337 w4r3z
mats: asciilifeform: did some digging, didn't come up with anything. doesn't help that i don't have a westlaw subscription anymore
mircea_popescu: amusingly, post ww2 lots of ro army officers rejected the russian-sponsored pretense to relevancy of local "socialists" (exactly like us socialists, 1950s ro socialists were indistinct jobsworths, jailbirds and assorted faggots)
asciilifeform: mats: i suspect that the whole thing simply evaporated, as these tend to
mircea_popescu: took a good two decades to clear out the carpathians.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i saw a large and ( apparently recently built ) memorial for these in timis, with plinths fulla names and how/when killed
mats: same group (campaign legal center) made complaints that hrc campaign paid out to fusion gps for the famous mi6 dosier
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was out in the boonies, next to the litle zoo thing they had
mircea_popescu: aha.
mats: seen here https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/DOSSIER-LAWSUIT-1.pdf
asciilifeform: there was a woman there, looked to be 80-90 y.o., crying on bench.
mircea_popescu: there were originally thousands and thousands of groups. a few famous ones lasted into the 60s, thereby delaying the "victory against fascist elements".
asciilifeform: not errybody likes being colonized, noose at 11...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, there was a good 30-40% female population in these.
mircea_popescu: goes to show that the "oh, treblinka, had women" is not quite that useful a heuristic. it also depends WHAT women. useless polish jews or what.
asciilifeform: sure does
asciilifeform: will add, belarussian partizans also ~20-30% chix, didn't hurt
asciilifeform: mine under track still goes off when laid by chix.
mircea_popescu: i lost interest in this "tactical choice of my part" pile of crap within two pages. who goes unarmed ? "I used to wear a handcuff key around
mircea_popescu: my neck for just such an occasion. But that was a long time ago; seemed like ages almost" ? srsly ? who the fuck runs towards the ambush, unarmed ?
asciilifeform: eliot.
asciilifeform: iirc rudolf ended as some sort of armed desperado tho, so maybe read backwards ? ( then again, so did eliot... )
asciilifeform: neither shows symptoms of being any kind of 'man of letters' tho.
mircea_popescu: this was the discussion of his capture i thought.
mircea_popescu: aaaanyway.
asciilifeform: possibly includes one. but is 'autobio' written from prison, supposedly.
mircea_popescu: the fascinating adventures of men alone.
asciilifeform: whothefuq knows what % any relation to fact.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc rudolf wasn't ~exactly~ alone, has buncha derps in countryside helpin' him hide out and draw out the agony
asciilifeform: y'know, like the carpathian folx.
asciilifeform: *had
mircea_popescu: looky, the mechanics of him being arrested were, from the pastebin : 1. dood saw a box of bruised bananas in dumpster, decided store will dump 100s of lbs, on the basis of experience ; 2. dood told self "i dodged that police cruiser hundreds of times, can do it again" ; 3. dood decided to cross after first pass of cruiser, rather than wait AS PER USUAL see if it comes back ; 4. when spotted, dood decided to run into blind all
mircea_popescu: ey, instead of back the way he came.
mircea_popescu: which sounds like "i'm sick of eating dumpster, this ends now", except for the part where he packed no weapons.
asciilifeform: ( it was never clear to asciilifeform what the ro, baltic, ukr, etc anti-sov partizans were hoping to accomplish, beyond a good 1st class ticket to honourable valhalla. they could not have glued the world of 1939 back together, and given as they weren't redditards, prolly understood this. so i'm left with 'acted from cause not purpose'(tm)(r) and no better hypothesis. )
mircea_popescu: what the fuck was wrong with waiting for the cop to get out, shooting him in the fucking head, urinating in the hole, getting into the cruiser, calling emergency "officer shot" bla bla, then picking the respondents from behind with shotgun ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imo that was exactly what was going on.
asciilifeform: valhalla always open for biznis.
mircea_popescu: contrary to popular belief, no system ever in history could afford to field militarily relevant policemen. it's impossible.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~erry arrest story i ever read featured some variant of 'then i slipped on banana'
asciilifeform: seems like statistics favour this.
mircea_popescu: killing a dozen cops or so per encounter comfortably within limits of training ; and this isn't even counting what they'll do to each other in crossfire.
asciilifeform: recall the ex-cop black d00d in california
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where is the "slipped" ? "i went into berserker mode without my axe", this is not slipping. if you don't take a gun, you are aware you're not into that mode, yes ?
mircea_popescu: he... FORGOT he didn't take his guns ?
asciilifeform: lol maybe listened 1 too many times to 'dun take yer guns to town'..
mircea_popescu: but i mean, logically. man wakes up in morning. "do i wish to die today or live another day ?" if answer comes out 2, he goes with no guns, AND ACTS ACCORDINGLY
mircea_popescu: what, he forgot what answer had come to ?
mircea_popescu: very poorly organised thought process, in the freeranged derp. hence my "man alone" comment.
mircea_popescu: it's not that he was or was not in the physical presence of other biobatteries.
asciilifeform: i'll admit, puzzled, with what then did he shoot the cops he was supposed to have shot
mircea_popescu: it is that he never had anyone in his life to fucking tell him QUESTIONS FOLLOW IN A TREE!!!!
asciilifeform: ( am i mixing the eliots in my memory ? )
mircea_popescu: if we decided 1, then we act as 1 throughout the respective tree, wtf is this random mix and matching.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i vaguely recall weirdo caught dumpster diving, dunno what cops he shot or w/e.
asciilifeform: oh hah shot 0 cops
asciilifeform: i had'im mixed with somebody.
mircea_popescu: possibly with the http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/ fellows.
asciilifeform: not actually clear that rudolf did anyffing at all. ( confessed on the stake to long list of 'terrorisms' , naturally )
asciilifeform: possib
asciilifeform: 'On April 8, 2005, the Department of Justice announced that Rudolph had agreed to a plea bargain under which he would plead guilty to all charges he was accused of in exchange for avoiding the death penalty' etc etc
mircea_popescu: afaik bombed some abortion clinics.
asciilifeform: or confessed to same, at any rate
asciilifeform: ( could have also made him confess to shooting kennedy, i have nfi why they didn't )
mircea_popescu: stupidest fucking red herring to ever fixate on. really, they'll fight "the ideals of global socialism" by opposing the natural process of culling the herd ?
asciilifeform: it's a unique ustardism, i suspect no white man will ever grasp it
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702374 etc.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 19:35 mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, speaking of catholic latinas etc : the dispute between "progressives" and "christian fundamentalists" never ceases to amaze me. here you have two pantsuit groups which both agree with the fundamental pantsuit "every sperm is sacred". their disagreement is re when "every sperm is sacred" starts : the jesus pantsuit thinks it's at age -9 months ; the progre pantsuit thinks it's at - something, not quite 9 mon
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very strangely, in usa it is the ~protestant~ derps who go in for it.
mircea_popescu: "we're gonna fight socialism because it's not socialist enough!!!"
asciilifeform: hey, christians.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you can be ever arsed to read that newman book i wrote, you'l;l discover (to no surprise) that the angicans were pretending to be "the real catholics" without saying so.
asciilifeform: since henry 8, neh.
mircea_popescu: the protestant derps don't protest in the sense you think ; but in the opposite of it.
asciilifeform: 'in February 2013, with help by his brother, Lulu.com published Rudolph's book Between the Lines of Drift: The Memoirs of a Militant, and in April 2013, the U.S. Attorney General seized $200 to help pay off the $1 million that Rudolph owes in restitution to the state of Alabama' << peditardia.
mircea_popescu: im sorry, the newman book i linked, "loss and gain". i didn't wriote it lol.
asciilifeform: i was confused for coupla millisecond lol
asciilifeform: but allgood, ecc'd!11
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ( see also the immortal words: 'i was there! i did it' -- al gore, 9/11/01 )
mircea_popescu: ouch.
mircea_popescu demonstratively pulls imaginary knife from ribcage
asciilifeform: loll
asciilifeform: !#s dornier
a111: 0 results for "dornier", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=dornier
asciilifeform: hm could've sworn we did him
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/UZmQK << at ~random , re subj. the california fella.
asciilifeform: ^ one of those magical creatures with indestructable, un-singeable passports that never drifts far from owner's charred corpse
asciilifeform: sorta like the 9/11 fellas.
asciilifeform: 'If and when Dorner's body is identified, the LAPD will have to offer up some answers on the way this manhunt was handled—from Dorner's 2007 case, to the corruption allegations in his manifesto. And they'll have to explain why they fired upon innocent civilians who didn't even match Dorner's description. One civilian was shot by the Torrance police, and has since lawyered up...' << afaik all of this went to same /dev/null as mats's
asciilifeform: thing earlier upthread.
asciilifeform: 'There's also seems to be a brewing controversy of how last night's blaze came to be and whether it was set deliberately. In this clip, from KCAL 9 News in California, police can be heard saying "f*cking burn this motherfu*cker..."' << and ditto.
asciilifeform: 'no man, no problem'(tm)(r)
mats: cops had authoritah to set his cabin on fire, didn’t want to risk breaching and getting shot again
asciilifeform: mats: this was not a traditional policing method in usa prior, but then again clinton introduced it at waco, so precedent.
asciilifeform: 'hande hoch, partizanen', like in the last reich
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-20#1852394 << those were pretty good. like the white hat that never gets stained (i have some white hats, they don't work like wayne's) and the cowboy horse that never gets a sprained ankle.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-20 00:46 asciilifeform: ^ one of those magical creatures with indestructable, un-singeable passports that never drifts far from owner's charred corpse
asciilifeform: aha, sold in the same shop as the self-setting tablecloth and 7league boots and other fine goodies
mats: cops don’t want to be meatshields, so ofc deploy cs gas canisters to induce fire, or send robot to breach with pound of c4
asciilifeform: mats: begs the q, why not drop nuke from air.
asciilifeform: definitely no cowboy survives direct nuke.
asciilifeform: in fact why not nuke whole set of subjects preventively.
asciilifeform: 0 criminals then.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, this is the point where empire and republic converge.
asciilifeform: ikr?
mircea_popescu: empire's "killing everyone is an acceptable end state of avoiding suffering" doesn't conflict with republic's "killing everyone in empire entirely acceptable end state"
mats: ‘rules of engagement’
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-26#1072977 << oblig fyootoorism☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-03-26 20:43 asciilifeform: one to break doors, gates; one to threaten bystanders, if any, with 'accidental' fire; one to shoot; and perhaps one with a cage that arrestee -might- be permitted to surrender into, if the bot's voice-recognition system works and if orders included a possible live capture
mircea_popescu: the only problem with this "fyootoorism" is how utterly unsustainable it is.
phf: asciilifeform: there are `set it on fire' incidents predating waco. john africa's MOVE compound in philadelphia was set on fire after a standoff in 1985
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun keep'em from trying, eh
asciilifeform: phf: i dun for a moment suspect that 'set'em all on fire, let god sort out' is new.
mircea_popescu: was this back wehn last of white police was fighthing "black extremism" ?
asciilifeform: phf: but there was a short period in ustard history where they (mostly) maintained appearances of 'hey we aint nazi, not at all'
mod6: megal0g today. nice.
phf: well, sure, but this is re "traditional us policing methods", lots of these tactics were first employed against "black exstrimists"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/have-you-gone-pussy-free-560x462.jpg ?
asciilifeform: phf: against the indians, lol, if we go back enuff
mircea_popescu: phf the only sadness is that something as ridiculous as a sf-hack cult predated the republican infiltration of fbi etc.
mircea_popescu: but, yes. little new under sun.
asciilifeform: fdr et al pulled epic pr stunt on their moomoos , convinced 'we're softer, gentler, not at all like germany' while burning down entire of e.g. jp , etc . pretense carried on for a spell, retooled 'we aint at all like evil moscuvy' , then finally dispensed with entirely when obsolete
phf: one of the move ladies runs a "raw foods" shop in west philadelphia, she don't talk about it much though. i had an amusing conversation with one of her locals, who, unprompted, went on a long rant about how bitcoin is a weapon against babylon, and how fbi is going to start killing bitcoin people, etc.
asciilifeform: erry scam has finite life.
asciilifeform: phf: lol, 'will start'
mircea_popescu: phf apparently the obviousness of who's whose daddy shines through even functionally illiterate, weed-whacked heads.
asciilifeform: speaking of which, smell of weed has become ~inescapable in washingtonistan. even in stopped traffic at lights, windows ~closed~, seeps in from neighbouring columns
asciilifeform: ~erry 3rd open window on ~erry street, nearly
asciilifeform: shops, taxis, toilets, pretty much errywhere
mircea_popescu: sounds like victory.
asciilifeform: for some value of victory..
mircea_popescu: victory of socialism.
asciilifeform: i dun think it is (yet) handed out for phreee, so possibly notyet
mircea_popescu: earlier at pool, "i suspect most us relationships start between drug dealer and drug customer. certainly better basis than met-at-club or w./e" "sure, dating dealer great way to get free pot" "honey... hanging out with potheads great way to get free pot anyways."
mircea_popescu: afaik always handed out for free
asciilifeform: '1st one phree'
mod6: charge it to the game
mircea_popescu: ^
asciilifeform: ( 90001st one , i expect, also phree, if yer a 20s chix )
mircea_popescu: you really think women have it easier than you in erry which way, don't you!
mircea_popescu: bros before hos, yo! i'd bet you easier to bum pot as a dood than as a chick.
asciilifeform: i have concretely nfi actually
asciilifeform reasons from kindergarten 1stprinciple, 'penniless chix has with what to pay stranger, bloke - not'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-19#1851528 << incidentally, i'm so curious what comes of this...☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 01:08 Mocky: got my flight booked. will be on layover at heathrow for 15hrs on oct 8th
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your 1st principles are deeply broken. there's no shortage of cunt and ample shortage of erections, for the very necessary functioning of biology.
mircea_popescu: you're what, proposing injuns are killing the pilgrims in trade ?
asciilifeform: this does not closely align with the reality experienced by d00dz who aint mircea_popescu ..
mircea_popescu: what the injuns have everyone has ; what the pilgrims have, shiny beads and all, nobody, not even the gods, ever saw before.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but in order to achieve this effect, those d00dz sit on truly tall tower of chairs.
asciilifeform: dunno, i thought mircea_popescu were adherent of (imho reasonable..) 'most males good only for mutton' pov
mircea_popescu: these conflict ?
Mocky: mircea_popescu, why curious about that?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly, or possibly i'm missing a link in the logic circuit
mircea_popescu: Mocky i mean of the whole adventure, not the item specifically
Mocky: ahh. me too!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'tower of chairs' item implies 'if only they'd open their third eye, would swim in cunt' hypothesis
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems to me that "there's 0.95 peni for every cunt and while the latter works continuously, the former only works minutes/day" is not dulled but aggravated by coda "and on top of this most peni connected to apparatus only fit for mutton"
asciilifeform: well for 1 thing the former dun work 'continuously', it works for 2, maybe 3 decades of organism, with rare exception. while latter good for ~40-50
asciilifeform: and ~continuously
mircea_popescu: no fucking way.
mod6: astroglide
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: mod6: + drill, tree...
mircea_popescu: i dunno where these dataz are got from.
mod6: = slivers
asciilifeform: cork tree.
asciilifeform: ( suitcase, airport, portugal!11 )
asciilifeform: but re mircea_popescu's observation upstack : it is elementarily true... in a harem. where yes sultan cock is limiting reactant.
asciilifeform: sorta hao in neutronic star, somewhat different conditions than on my desk.
mircea_popescu: oh i see.
mircea_popescu: im still mindblown you think girlbits stop working sometime in 30s.
asciilifeform: hey, engineer must!11 operate on pessimistic margins.
asciilifeform: 'maybe bridge will carry 500 tanks, but i'ma say 50'
mircea_popescu: seems to be that there's a deeper, darker underlying of that dunbar number :
mircea_popescu: as it turns out, the average female can take up to about maybe 100 dudes in a day.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the particular physical constant aside, some good % , appears , ~never start~ working
mircea_popescu: and THIS may actually be EXPLANATORY.\
asciilifeform: 'nedeflorena' et al
asciilifeform: hey if correctly strapped, down, maybe take 300
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform necessarily female sexual activity is socially downregulated. hence all these things you speak of.
asciilifeform: i do not know the current record
mircea_popescu: outliers exist, but no, ~100 is the outer bound.
mircea_popescu: "record" events do things like fluffers etc, which...
asciilifeform: 100 is typical company at arms, so i suspect that's where the estimate comes from
mircea_popescu: company at arms way the fuck ulterior.
asciilifeform: and iirc waffen ss did not need 'fluffers'
asciilifeform: nor red army in berlin
mircea_popescu: rape in berlin ~never ammounted to 100 doods fuck this one chick.
asciilifeform: it isnt clear to me why to bother when you have a whole berlin, aha
asciilifeform: so i suspect that we do not know the limit.
mircea_popescu: anthropology has its problems.
asciilifeform: speaking of which,
asciilifeform bbl
mircea_popescu: hanbot http://trilema.com/2010/ce-imi-doresc-eu-pe-2011/#comment-126705 << the internets never forget.
hanbot: haha especially if you will'em not to
mircea_popescu: kek
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in vaguely-related to last convo, the epic http://trilema.com/2015/a-lingering-suspicion/#selection-329.0-329.74
mircea_popescu: ("The female trait is that it sucks living in your country, how about that.")