mats: ben_vulpes: nfi
mats: my understanding is that many systems are used to ensure reliability, like infrared search and track (irst), flir, inertial navigation systems, AESA/APG-81, laser illumination for cooperative engagement
mats: AN/AAQ-40 features combined flir and irst as well as laser designation, and also capable of generating geo coords to support gps-guided weapons systems
mats: the systems described above are used in the f-35, but shipboard versions exist, ie, AN/SPY-1, AN/SPY-3
mats: there's more but i can't remember the acronym
mats: ah, AN/SPG-62
mats: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-space-idUSKBN17O04E
mats: (cn's first cargo spacecraft, Tianzhou-1, performs autodock with Tiangong-2 spacelab)
ben_vulpes: well with caveats pursuant to mircea_popescu's critique that gps is not long for this world, gps + dead reckoning
ben_vulpes: the only hard part of gps + rocket is maintaining lock under g's
ben_vulpes: and i'm pretty sure that we did the tightly-coupled gps+imu+kalman filter thread before
ben_vulpes: reliability is important if your birds cost millions to loft
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe a large part of the iss research is very much in the vein of "mp's private whore spending time in brothel -- she's not there to learn how to make money with her cunt, but to acclimate herself mentally and physically to the taxing environment."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647485 << lol, i can see it.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 23:26 phf: *is
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647496 << had terrible video libs at the time this was all happening (mp's hs cs class was in pascal, for instance). so kids who were bright hated it because couldn't make little amiga-like platformers on their 386s.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 23:35 Framedragger: i actually never got to know what the major issue with pascal was. (i mean, as long as you're teaching imperative programming..)
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, /me is cleaning up mangoes (holy shit it's mango season, you can not imagine) to go into this fabulous mango-pineapple ... not sure how you'd call it in english, "conserve" i guess. eeuropean thing, stiff sweet whole fruit preserve.
mircea_popescu: kitten walks by, i'm like hey, you know this is good for the face ?! proceed to wipe my hands all over her mug. she stumbles to the bathroom flailing about, eyes closed. then five minutes later... "hey her face is really good!"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger how do you say uogiene in british ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hah! well, i don't know any colloquial / actually local words for this other than the (generic boring), you know, "jam".
Framedragger: in .lt you normally also say what kind of uogienė (strawberry, apple, etc.), but i guess that's normal/conventional anyway
mircea_popescu: ya but it's not the same, as evidenced by the fact that as a 10 yo i could eat a proper sized jar of say apricot jam (800g) but barely made it through a small (240g) jar of dulceata de piersici.
Framedragger: how did you come to this, uh, query, if i may ask??
mircea_popescu: which was also my favourite.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger cuz im cookin'.
Framedragger: ahaĄ
Framedragger: !
Framedragger: nice.
mircea_popescu: lol.
Framedragger: ya i usually can't stand british 'jams', it's just ~sugar. which is what britons eat, anyway
shinohai: mircea_popescu: Is dulceata similar in .ro as in es to signify `sweet` ?
Framedragger: (and scottish add deep fried mars bars to the diet)
Framedragger sleeps
shinohai forgets
shinohai: !~translate ro to es dulceata
jhvh1: shinohai: mermelada
shinohai: casi
mircea_popescu: shinohai it's this particular preserve with ~whole fruit
mircea_popescu: it's not marmalade in any sense. ro notion of marmalade is, no sugar added, plum generally, if you make it thin it's the basis for alcohol (that's how you make tuica, from distilling fermented thin plum marmalade) and if you make it thick it's a sweet.
shinohai: I have some stuff here called "dulce de fresa" which is basically whole strawberry spread, deliciousness.
mircea_popescu: something like that.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-23#1647521 << we had same class, with ye olde turbopascal also. inline asm did the trick -- whatever graphical effect you want.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-23 02:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647496 << had terrible video libs at the time this was all happening (mp's hs cs class was in pascal, for instance). so kids who were bright hated it because couldn't make little amiga-like platformers on their 386s.
mircea_popescu: meh, if you're goint to do that might as well run c.
mircea_popescu: draw the page as a memory area and flip it into the video buffer zone was the state of the art iirc.
asciilifeform: specifically no. it was really a good (if unintentional) lesson in how to optimize ~properly~ - i.e. the part that actually ~demands~ the massage.
asciilifeform: ( in re 'may as well c' )
mircea_popescu: i know of no one who in practice showed this theory of yours.
mircea_popescu: whereas the "define screensized memory object, do bit toggles on it, flip it into video range" was exemplified by just about any early 90s product, take your pick.
asciilifeform: was addressing the 'may as well write whole proggy in c' strictly.
asciilifeform: how to buffer vga - is not in dispute, no
mircea_popescu: yes but this is not a particularly cogent argument becausae the people writing for the video effects don't particularily care about corectness.
mircea_popescu: in fact, a lot of the issues of software today can be traced to that early "can this machine do nice light blinkers?!?!"
asciilifeform: not wrong, but not the complete story;
asciilifeform: the folx with the blinkers got correctness largely 'for free', and carried on thinking that this could continue
mircea_popescu: there's also that yes.
asciilifeform: and somehow survive, e.g., winblows (and other multiprocess crapolade)
mircea_popescu: it worked at the time specifically because early micros were a lot closer to signal processors than to cpus.
asciilifeform: in the sense that they were ~engineered objects~ rather than piles of fungal liquishit -- yes.
mircea_popescu: no, in the sense that they were less reflexive.
mircea_popescu: none of this "processor watching the processor process" bs.
asciilifeform: the 'reflexive' liquishit is implicit in 'let's let every fungus write programs'
mircea_popescu: possibly. it's certainly implicit in "how can we make this more '''truthful'''" or however you'd put it, truer-er./
asciilifeform: much of the mechanical complexity of 'c machine' is items like tlb cache, and page tables in general, and mechanisms for saving arbitrary state -- to give each process the illusion of independently occupying a 1980s-style 'personal comp'
mircea_popescu: tru
asciilifeform: you can tell that it was a tumour, because it continues to carry on beyond any reasonable scale ('tasking' was not enough, saving all registers on ~every interrupt was not enough, now also need 'vm hypervisor', and now THAT not enough, need meta-hypervisor... etc barfalicious)
asciilifeform: tumour is this thing for which no size is the correct size.
mircea_popescu: imo the exact same drive is behind "let's build ai to make friends" and "let's make use of the higher transistor count to reflexivitize the cpu". it's a sort of triumf des willens all of its own.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a great definition. it also covers things like molluscs in nature, but whatever, acceptable collateral damage.
asciilifeform: in re mechanisms for 'no amount is enough', see also variant of https://archive.is/b1zBK .
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu at one point had article where 'there are people who labour under belief that if they could get a big enough house, they will never have to clean it' or how did it go
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: one of the lulzier downtails of "bigger is better" and "better is anything you wish it to be".
mircea_popescu: "a house can be big enough to never need cleaning" follows sylogistically from accepting those premises.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore, capitalism + democracy = houses big enough to not need cleaning.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, trump's tv scripts crew is engineering a "100th day govt shutdown". reality has over fiction the enduring advantage that fiction can't be this fucking ridiculous.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/561245D928FF0843F5F346549A73B46C6836E3B2BE309DC7F6CCAFCF7F17795C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 3 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'The Source <source@491362F1.info>; Lucian Solaris <LucianSolaris@gmail.com>; 7C492C5B491362F1 <491362F1@hackinfotech.org>; '
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F3817ECE468E6E058880707B5DDD183A50F1EAA28D87417D43D13E75F4DEF256 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 3 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'John Napp <john.napp@gmail.com>; John Christopher Napp <john.napp@gmail.com>; '
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BC4ABEF11E1CDD5388467ED4AA132904D2FBFB0D28D820941A1A83B81BBD2E1D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 3 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Paul Karrer <p.karrer@arrowecs.at>; '
shinohai: 3 hue
asciilifeform: snoar, flipolade
asciilifeform: ( btw, exercise for reader: how is it that a smallint like 3 can turn up in a modulus known since day1 -- only nao. )
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform knows answer. but does the reader? puzzle ! )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not brave enought to risk fingers adjusting trigger tension on conibears?
BingoBoingo: ^ File above to bad idea department
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=7467&pr=1
mats: https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/defeat-by-annihilation-mobility-and-attrition-in-the-islamic-states-defense-of-mosul
mircea_popescu: "With at least one quarter of Mosul still under Islamic State control, it is too soon to uncover the full story of the liberation of western Mosul." orly ? i guess what he means is "with the isis army being outnumbered 10:1 and it still managing to inflict blistering, humiliating if regular tactical defeats on the ill prepared, bumbling invading force, it becomes clear that the only victors in the engagement were the so calle
mircea_popescu: d terrorists".
mircea_popescu: dudes cost the usg more than any engagement since vietnam cost it. this puts them above the chechens, as far as successful unalligned powers go.