shinohai: I'd remember those tits ....
shinohai: (right areola is slightly misshapen but who am I to judge
mircea_popescu: you peeps are incredibru.
shinohai: I wish my peeps had been incredible enough not to fuck up that Eulora click earlier this week.
shinohai: xD
ben_vulpes: too many 'tits at dinner', i guess, they all run together
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: so what's going to happen with tillerson?
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS!!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000250.html
mod6 looks
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dunno, what ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378047 << review of logic re above☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 02:05 asciilifeform: presently trb does not have this sane behaviour
veen: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-22#1616772 << ben_vulpes i assume mircea_popescu doesn't mean secretary of state☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-22 04:55 mircea_popescu: btw, trump actually gave state to petraeus, at least on the declarative front.
shinohai likes to minagine this `wires` patch as G for trb
shinohai: *imagine
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's a prereq for using 'g' or any similar item
shinohai: Also, as side note, last night's patch produced no different behaviour
asciilifeform: it can also be used with traditional ssh tunnels; or even as-is, which will result in same situation as presently seen with 'addnode' -- but no more disconnects!
mircea_popescu: ah that';s nice.
mircea_popescu: solid improvement.
asciilifeform: classical trb did not have a nondisconnectable marker for peers; would not connect to localhost; and deprioritized non-8333 ports to dead-last order. 'wires' fixes this.
shinohai: Lots of irons in fires atm, but exciting development asciilifeform .... I will test in < 24 hrs
asciilifeform: the one case i have not yet tested is the ~bidirectional~ wire.
asciilifeform: i am deliberately leaving this to you lot
asciilifeform: oh and yes, fWires flag is not currently used for anything.
asciilifeform: ( someone is certain to ask 'why' )
mod6: asciilifeform: thanks for submitting.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what means "state to petraeus" then?
ben_vulpes: wires is neat asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: i shall read, think -- later.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes was prior to tillerson being confirmed.
ben_vulpes: hm.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616348 << do "marriage" and "divorce" even have much of a place in the republic?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 22:27 danielpbarron: ban divorce and it isn't "pedo marriage" -- she grows up eventually
ben_vulpes: note how veen went from "my business partner" to "veen", but "my wife" is still -- mine
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we briefly had a case of an interactive wife here, davout's
asciilifeform: but currently 0
ben_vulpes: had key?
asciilifeform: aha
ben_vulpes: migrated to #t wot?
ben_vulpes: suppose that woulda been done for her.
asciilifeform: !!key oleanie
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/317342D115FA670F29ABFF3CB6C0C41B0A85AAC9.asc
ben_vulpes: !!reputation oleanie
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nvSOG/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: hah epic
asciilifeform: there were formerly other ratings, but evaporated
ben_vulpes: was at c2, no?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: smoked the smallest cigs i ever saw
asciilifeform: like long pencil erasers.
ben_vulpes: in absence of counterclaim, is davout's wife then
ben_vulpes: a contractual relationship between republicans.
ben_vulpes: or possibly implicit!
asciilifeform: quite implicit, the marriage was certainly not executed here.
ben_vulpes: would be interesting to see gpg wedding contracts
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: could be contractual even if contract never executed in chan or even deeded.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: only in heathendom
ben_vulpes: there is no bar to presentation of previously signed documents at a later point.
asciilifeform: ah in that sense
asciilifeform: given that contract is a thing only to the people in it -- sure.
ben_vulpes: there are republicans of various standing, their vassals, and everyone else.
ben_vulpes: the vassals for whom this grates, straight to gpg.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, why can't your wife also be jane ?
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616189 << Why not just respond with "pong" like they expect?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 17:43 asciilifeform: could simply add anybody who emits a 'ping' to banlist.
asciilifeform: PeterL: what part of 'prb does not own bitcoin protocol' is hard to grasp?
asciilifeform: to what else would you have trb 'respond as they expect', PeterL ? bloom filter? segshitness?
asciilifeform: no pasaran.
PeterL: seems like a ping, pong is not a big change, but I guess I see your point. Is there any benefit to it, or is it strictly noise?
mircea_popescu: this is complicated point
mircea_popescu: there is some value in node discovery, but there's a major problem with the socket starvation.
asciilifeform: PeterL: so far i've found ~0 net effect. (earlier today thought that it was a net loss, but dulap caught up and stayed caught up.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform block verification having been your actual issue as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616446☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 22:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect your node's problem is verification.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: block verification is ~an~ issue, world stops for 3-8 minutes when block candidate is being eaten. but is demonstrably not the cause of multi-hour blackhole.
mircea_popescu: yeah. just, back on the 21st the problem happened ot be a pile of contrived blocks s'all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you know moar, i'm all ears
mircea_popescu: if only. the pile of gnarl is unfuckingtraceable.
mircea_popescu: but that 3-8 minutes CAN be half an hour.
asciilifeform: btw do the prb folk have parallelized block verify yet? or do they simply eat whatever garbage.
mircea_popescu: they more or less gave up on verifying.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: next patch is a blockverify timer.
mircea_popescu: this is useful.
mircea_popescu: esp if you get it a little more detailed. per tx.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: in other wtf, https://hub.docker.com/r/mazaclub/btc-therealbitcoin-base
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point in case block we were discussing yest. i timed it at 22 minutes on "reasonable" amd.
asciilifeform: ^ who... and why??
mircea_popescu: nobody and why not.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might be interesting to extend my eatblock experiment to modern height
mircea_popescu: i think that's a fine example to be instrumented for study.
mircea_popescu: just profile the code eating it.
asciilifeform: ( if you recall , that was when we had a trb node, offline, eat the complete chain to date from disk, with timer and valgrind going )
mircea_popescu: no, i am aware.
asciilifeform: that xxxx74 block may well be close to 'worstcase'
mircea_popescu: it's not even the usual worstcase but some novel hell
asciilifeform: i'ma guess the elixir of slooow is: disk thrashing via snarfing of old inputs
asciilifeform: with max nonlocality
asciilifeform: (a 2010 here, a 2011 there...)
mircea_popescu: scripts also manage to clog.
asciilifeform: disk is the real killer tho.
asciilifeform: (there is a sigop limit, but no block seek thrash limit!)
mircea_popescu: there is some indirect coinbase selection stuff.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ^ who... and why?? << lol indeed
asciilifeform: update: both 'wired' nodes at 454265
asciilifeform: !~bc stats
asciilifeform: !~bc stats
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: !~bcstats
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Current Blocks: 454265 | Current Difficulty: 4.40779902286E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 455615 | Next Difficulty In: 1350 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 4 hours, 22 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/yankee-doodle-henry-part-iii/ << The Whet - Yankee Doodle Henry, Part III
trinque: this is getting great.