trinque: I'd live in a sufficiently large vehicle
trinque: wouldn't mind getting one of the vw camper vans at some point
assbot: New 2015 Lifestyle Luxury RV Alfa Gold 3905SH Motorcycle Storage Area Fifth Wheels at Kansas RV Center Chanute Kansas Kansas RV Center ... (
http://bit.ly/1Fj8JPb )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 459 @ 0.00274 = 1.2577 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: Firetruck is immenently useful in post USG world. Break out the hoses on former desk jockeys.
BingoBoingo: Also if you get one with a big tank, maybe some money smuggling freshwater into california.
trinque: punkman: I wouldn't mind seeing a non-hippy/burner version of that
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: jekyll and hyde in america gone horribly wrong
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but I'm not just contemplating trucks, but trucks with flashing lights!
trinque: BingoBoingo: put a snow plow on the front too
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Excluded when moving or on a public right of way. when not moving on any private property they can rapidly convert to domicile
BingoBoingo: Still in international waters pretty much any navy/coast guard reserves the right to conduct colonoscopy
BingoBoingo: firetrucks don't have toilets, but they have shovels for digging your own toilets as needed
BingoBoingo: need is an awfully loaded word considering the incursions on the somali coast by nation-state actors
BingoBoingo: I'd be worried about unloading petrol through pump designed for water. Pump might ignite itself
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BingoBoingo: Just have to avoid the tempation to follow the Roman firefighting tradition
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:43:05; asciilifeform: a modern 'jfk' might not be shot, but petraeused or childpronned instead
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't stick on anyone else, like p, except they keep confessing like the pastiass dickless shitheads they are.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:44:14; asciilifeform: and before mircea_popescu observes that 'no one has the balls' - if the 'balls-enabled' jfk appeared, a 'counter-jfk' would materialize out of thin aether
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:57:31; pete_dushenski: though i'll take a plane and high-end hotel room any day, and i'll still come out ahead on costs compared to 'high-end rv'
mats: i'm watching "Blackhat" atm, p funny so far
mats: .cn sysop uses yubikey at his terminal, "he's using gpg encryption... it'll take me at least a month to crack it... it must be at least a 512 bit key"
mats: er, these are distinct things, but anyway.
danielpbarron: the kmikeym thing is "the first publically traded person"
danielpbarron: Of course it's not a real share like you might buy on the NYSE or NASDAQ. There is no company behind KmikeyM and so the "ownership" you hold is actually a just a metaphor for trust. We have built a fully-functional market simulation and we borrow a lot of language and concepts from the business world in order to make the process easy to understand.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << not to mention you wouldn't be stuck with the impotent sort of potheads that crowd a "orgy rv" to the point of total cockblockage. << But... Firetruck. They put the lotion on the skin, or they get the hose again
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mats: i was told michael mann is known for making relatively accurate movies
mats: oh wow these chinese shooters don't know how to clear rooms
mats: civilized way is with four dudes and a perimeter.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i thought the civilized way was with frag << With flash and bang unless you know walls actually protect yourself
mats: those fatal funnels are a bear.
TomServo: Best 'hacking' movie I can think of.. maybe check it out.
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mircea_popescu: magical box that breaks secrets, this isn't a film about hacking, this is scherezade in a "modern" color scheme.
mircea_popescu: mats you rly should add sources to all that, impossibru to follow in snippets like that.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no fucking way. you actually recognized a... WINDOW AND PLUG assembly ?
mats: sources? the url is appended to the end
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mats: the ones that don't, i found on westlaw but not the crawlable internets
mircea_popescu: ps. nubbins` : Your an idiot, and that is not the argument i am having.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i never saw a good "hacking" film. << for prime cheese: WarGames, 83
nubbins`: i'm starting to think that it is i who is wc
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: mats has been on this for a while. I almost contributed then... qntra. Dude's been digging like mad.
mircea_popescu: 0 In U.S. v. Scarfo (Criminal Action No. 00–404 (NHP)), Politan denied << that one has nothing for instance.
mircea_popescu: 0 In U.S. v. Friedman (No. 95–CR–192 (S–3)(ARR), < etc. but they do have the indexes so that's pretty good
mats: no data available on the specific action, usually
mats: usually data available for the relevant case
assbot: You have not rated mats.
nubbins`: damn, no donations to payout address for task 1.
nubbins`: why'd i spend all that time looking up judge names anyway ;/
mircea_popescu: people had a way to donate specifically, if they wanted, but the bulk is global.
mats: i'm fairly convinced this project has gone as far as it can go without professional input
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.mats.1:060bf7cf7cce64b6ee03db87caa7bb232b33ee77d9fe4a7c4e07fcbfff58b46d
mircea_popescu: well... "the people have rights", right ? and everyone's the same, right ? at which point we can spend forever talking over the internet with clearly disturbed ignorant idiot.
BingoBoingo: mats single handedly took on the legal equivalent of pogo linux and won
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mats: the legal database access was free due to my use of a university's subscription and something in the neighborhood of 400 hours
mircea_popescu: this has to be a meme. mats pic and the caption "i don't always go on research binges on the internet. but when i do, we're talking 400 hours bish!"
punkman: nubbins`: lol, how many accounts does that guy have on the forum
mircea_popescu: i did it in my digital print dirivitive. also i added some ants, because it kinda looks like a spider web which makes sense.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Alt flameless flamethrower, various ergot products and DMSO
punkman: ants love playing in spider webs
mircea_popescu: "i have 0 cookies and am so locked down that i have to log in every time a page changes"
nubbins`: in the meantime, i realized that another one of his old customers is also into casascius coins, as he bid on my auction
nubbins`: so it's uh, not just blazed that paid the guy $$$$ for wood :o
mircea_popescu: more like "here's something, say you paid me a lot for it, it'll look good on both of us"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Can store seperatley though, especially in complex apparatus with multiple pumps and tanks
mircea_popescu: "I'm calling you out on this one, answer or lose whatever credibility you had because there is 1 MILLION percent no way you have a single shred of proof that i am anyone or anything especially some guy in vietnam who sells wooden shit and if you ain't going to back up your BS i will rally every single body that you pulled your fake "probable alt of _____________" and lead a campaign of ensuring you never have the credi
mircea_popescu: badbear being i suppose one of the very few people who managed to wade through the tardsforum and more or less retain some sort of credibility.
nubbins`: bitcoinsociety@yahoo.com was the email used to register the weird cats website, as well as a bunch of random asic mining-related domains
punkman: "I have decided to use half my bitcoin ( about 3,300 coins ) to form a self funded organization with the sole purpose of helping to spread information about bitcoin to the world through mass media, local "troops" or small groups, a website, blog, billboards, magazine ad's, TV. and whatever else 3,300 bitcoins will afford me."
punkman: "Guerilla marketing is probably the most effective means, vinyl stickers at urinals on mirrors under drive thru windows under the drive thru speaker bumper stickers and the great thing about bitcoin is the stickers could actually have a qr code that links you to some free satoshis so people that never considered buying bitcoin just have to pull out there phone"
punkman: 2011 or 1981, I mean stickers?!
mircea_popescu: when all the world is young lad, and every scribble a business plan...
punkman: "Nitrogen i totally agree with you on the gorilla marketing idea, I have had lots of ideas on how to move forward, but lost myself in aggravation for 2 days not being able to name it."
nubbins`: i give up, it's socks all the way down
nubbins`: guy makes socks to call out his other socks for being socks
mircea_popescu: the wonders of a living wage, and generaly welfare etatism.
punkman: grueling day job and time to make 250 forum accounts?
nubbins`: grueling day job walking the aisles, looking for shoplifters
nubbins`: actually no i'd say he's a full time scammer
nubbins`: the wood coins, the digital prints, the cats for sale, the bullets...
nubbins`: he gets enough dribbles from actual suckers to make it worth doing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guy's not doing anything sueful. he's too broadly illiterate to ever be able to get a job, and his attitude precludes the sort of job you're thinking about.
mircea_popescu: his manager would basically make him crawl six hours a day.
nubbins`: prob on social assistance, prob supplementing it with scams.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not even. just, full time internet imbecile. like a "wikipedia editor" or something.
mircea_popescu: and i bet you he does not. he gets enough dribbles in the sense of, attention, to keep whatever unfortunate woman paying the bills.
nubbins`: sysadmin who smokes and owns a lathe?
decimation: Todd had received assistance paying his utility bills in the past, but did not apply for help this year, said Tom VanLandingham, who directs the Office of Home Energy Programs in Somerset County. Families can apply once a year, and assistance is based on household income and energy use, among other factors. "We're all kind of baffled as to why he did not apply this year ... that's the million-dollar question," VanLandingham said
decimation: so in the us, you can work to pay usg tax, or work to beg from usg
nubbins`: ^ i suppose those qualify as sysadmin hands
decimation: "Court records identified the boys as Cameron and ZhiHeem, and the girls as Tyjuziana, Tykeria, Tynijuzia, TyNiah and Tybreyia. "
decimation: is the ring finger shorter than the index?
mircea_popescu: actually, i'l; go on a limb and say that is THE woman.
mircea_popescu: guy is "managing" her, they make up "a team". he's the "marketeer" because he "can bullshit"
mircea_popescu: "Tyjuziana, Tykeria, Tynijuzia, TyNiah and Tybreyia." << ;/
mircea_popescu: who wouldn't want to try out an orgy with these five ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> recall the case of the "forum banker" dude ? << Kludge!!!
decimation: supposedly one study found it correlated with prenatal testosterone
assbot: Human 2D (index) and 4D (ring) finger lengths and ratios: cross-sectional data on linear growth patterns, sexual dimorphism and lateral asymmetry from 4 to 60 years of age ... (
http://bit.ly/1GJjI8W )
decimation: it's amusing to me that this is actually a controversial point
decimation: how hard would it be to recruit a few thousand people to get a hand xray on a calibrated machine
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BingoBoingo is alternately left or right handed depending on the task at... hand
decimation: apparently 'medical researchers' have better things to do
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decimation: asciilifeform: reading more about the ubiquiti thing, it's not obvious to me that replacing with freebsd would do anything
decimation: one would have to replace the bootloader, and apparently they are refusing to release their mods to u-boot source code
decimation: asciilifeform: aye, would have to dick around with u-boot and the data sheet
decimation: it's rare that a major distribution line fails like that
decimation: they are supposed to inspect those for exactly this kind of issue
decimation: ^ the power line was probably coming from the nuke plant on the chesapeake bay
BingoBoingo: decimation: Last summer My town suffered a 12+ hour blackout because the largest incoming transmission line melted
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the line falls right out of the transformer, like first 100 feet, it may cut it out
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, turns out luxury not so luxurious after all ?
decimation: re: earlier discussion about power generation
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the 'one wire,' even if true, can only be the 'straw that broke camel's back' << It was August during peak consumption. Amren stopped delivering anything through the town's 5 MW backup line so the 30 MW transmission line failed at 38.5 MW and started a small swiftly contained brush fire. (/me thinks he got the units right)
decimation: actually I think the end result is going to be a mass migration away from centralized power to solar
decimation: solar has dropped to $3 per watt installed
decimation: in certain areas of the us, you could buy enough solar panels to power yourself indefinitely for the price of a car
mircea_popescu: "However, there were also multiple reports about an explosion or fire, including a reported explosion at a southern Maryland power plant. "
mircea_popescu: odds are this was a successful terrorist hit, actually.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, I'm including overage
BingoBoingo: <decimation> actually I think the end result is going to be a mass migration away from centralized power to solar << local hillbill town is about to add solar farm on abandoned manufactering ground to supplement diesel, on coop's dime
decimation: obviously one needs batteries, and that's the rub right nwo
mircea_popescu: "Pepco cited a "dip in voltage" as the cause of the outage in its release." derp. the cause of the outage was caused by the cause of the causative agent.
decimation: right, what that means is "Pepco said some stuff, hoping folks would quit asking"
decimation: generally the strategy for utilities is to smile and nod, and wait until next week when nobody gives a shit
mircea_popescu: "A Charles County, Maryland official confirmed to Utility Dive that an explosion occurred at a substation. However, CBS reported that their sources tell them there was no explosion at all, while the Associated Press reported that the explosion occurred at a power plant."
mircea_popescu: three people three stories and fractured exactly on the lines of, local authority | propaganda mouthpiece | international agency
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right, it's only terrorism when mentally retarded derps do nonsensical shit.
mircea_popescu: when lifelines are taken out by unidentified parties with access to a lot of resources, it's... uh.
decimation: it's complicating, our brain trust is taking care of it
decimation: asciilifeform: as long as the chinese government is willing to subsidize production, why not?
decimation: what's free? people get tired of blackouts, buy own solar panels & batteries
mircea_popescu: and wtf, they are still derping with that angelou broad ? what, she's "a poet" ?
mircea_popescu: decimation china "subsidizes" it like sar subsidizes oil. to fuck the us.
decimation: aye, and the us thinks it is 'winning'
decimation: but because it gets added to the real estate bezzletron, it'll get funded
decimation: that part isn't clear - it depends where the house is located
decimation: in the sunny west, maybe, not so much in the dreary northeast
mats: anyone remember silicon valley plant going down because of ak47 fire?
decimation: batteries can still be terrible and work okay if they become cheap
mats: im surprised it hasn't happened again. short teh DJIA, start shooting up coolant rooms at various plants...
decimation: as the article notes, it's already economical to run 'off grid' solar+batteries in hawaii
decimation: but that's because hawaii is fucktarded
mats: practice run for the summer.
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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> practice was in 2013. << Regional differences in the US electric grid are extreme
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gribble: Current Blocks: 351209 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 1590 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 32 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48776199716.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.35539
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BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Thank you for the comments on qntra
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: so, let's implement that idea? The ransomware promises: deposit X bitcoin to account XYZ and we'll free your data. Then, do nothing! No more "good bad guys", no more hope. lol
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Well the entire idea of ransomware is premised on people getting their data back if they pay.
felipelalli: only in this way they'll stop to funding criminals.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: exactly. This will destroy this idea.
BingoBoingo: If people stop paying entirely or people stop returning data selectively the thing falls apart
BingoBoingo: As seriously as people build up the ransomware threat the entire ecosystem is awfully precarious. One could readily kill it with ransomware that did not honor a ransom
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: making a "really lier" ransomware would accelerate this process. hahaha
BingoBoingo: The risk associated with doing such a thing isn't likely worth it compared to other ventures in BTC which are far nobeler to hang for
felipelalli: yes. I was kidding anyway. But would be fun!
felipelalli: would be the terror of the scammers. A "fake scammer" but "really bad and lier" would make the long-term good, after all.
BingoBoingo: Really the best insulation in bitcoin is a sense of history
felipelalli: what do you mean with "insulation" in this context?
felipelalli: chap III 6. The Blackmailer. Nice chapter. You read crying.
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BingoBoingo: felipelalli: That healthy sense of skepticism that keeps pirateat40 from replaying over and over on the same scale
felipelalli: 4:20 AM here, good night BingoBoingo! Thanks for conversation.
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assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 02:11:53; TomServo: mircea_popescu: ever seen Sneakers?
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cazalla: mircea_popescu, good movie? might treck down to the video shop and hire it out
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nubbins`: ^ from the realtor who sold the house 2 years ago ;0
nubbins`: the fact that the realtor still has videos of the inside of the home on youtube is a separate matter, but...
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nubbins`: wow, guy paid less than $30k for his house.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00026512 = 6.0978 BTC [-]
nubbins`: okay, and now i've got his name, his wife's name, and his company's name
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lobbes: <nubbins'> okay, and now i've got his name, his wife's name, and his company's name << once you chomp down on a scammer, you don't let go, do you? ;/
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mats: make a few c.o.d. purchase orders for office supplies
nubbins`: lobbes guy threatened to do unspecified things to me, what else am i to do?
nubbins`: anyway i'm pretty sure the house is owned by his parents or in-laws
nubbins`: either that or the guy is in his mid 70s
nubbins`: but yeah. deeds dating back to the early 80s for this property
nubbins`: i wonder if he's a licensed breeder for those purebred cats he's selling?
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13385 @ 0.00025862 = 3.4616 BTC [-] {2}
lobbes: <nubbins'> lobbes guy threatened to do unspecified things to me << O.o Link in the logs? This guy sounds like a full-time scammzor (with the 'miner group buy' scam, et al). Plenty of sustenance in that forum, too
lobbes: i wonder if he's a licensed breeder for those purebred cats he's selling? << prolly just uses lathe on cats he finds on the street
punkman: "Within 5 minutes of you starting in with your shit i had people messaging me your address in Canada, Your phone number, the address for your print shop, more information than anyone would want someone like me to know if they wated to start shit, its very clear that you have pissed a lot of people off in the past with this shit you pull as they all came rushing in to DOX the fuck out of you, and i am just asshole enough to make use of i
punkman: "How many pizzas do you think i can have delivered to you at home and work, how long do you think i can tie up your phone with robo dial, ever heard of swatting? " << this guy...
punkman: did anyone ever get swatted in canada?
danielpbarron: someone from -otc sent me a pizza once; just so happened to be the same day as my weekly poker game so i just paid for it
☟︎ Chillum: punkman: No "swat" but I have had a battering ram knock in my door and cops with shields and guns rush in. They have a different name
Chillum: it was a misunderstanding, I was acquitted
☟︎ nubbins`: punkman my full mailing address is already on the forums
nubbins`: so i don't know what the guy's bragging about :P
nubbins` makes no effort to hide personal info
nubbins`: also, given the number of times i've called the cops on shady dealings in my neighbourhood, i've got my doubts that any cop would do anthing to my door beyond politely knocking on it
nubbins`: anyway, got a solid bead on the guy now. found the construction company he started in NY in 2010
nubbins`: he says he's ordering dinner for me, which is thrilling
mats: report the etsy store
mats: obv not 'hand carved'
fluffypony: I wonder if I can fake a pic of the 1000 coins
nubbins`: blockchain analysis says this didn't happen, but w/e
nubbins`: i hope WC orders me a good type of pizza
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mats: ^ 'Bootkit via SMS: 4G access level security assessment'
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nubbins`: purple pogos still in ontario ;/
assbot: TotesMessenger comments on There is a targeted attack on Bitcoin occurring right now, coordinated by national agencies. I know this because I am an insider with prior involvement in a key operation. ... (
http://bit.ly/1PknucE )
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lobbes: "DISRUPT - Divide community consensus and steer towards Operational and COMMAND objectives by means of standard counter-actor and sabotage procedures."
ascii_field: reddit users: does it have to be a moderator who deletes a piece, to result in the '[removed]' label?
lobbes: I believe a user can remove his own, though I'm not sure if that results in the [removed] label
lobbes: I think you are correct. I just did a quick test; no [removed] flag. Just disappears from the page. Going to the url just displays the 'by [deleted]' flag
ben_vulpes: who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3764 @ 0.00026954 = 1.0145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9955 @ 0.00025522 = 2.5407 BTC [-]
fluffypony: "Want to become a professional investor? Our first short-term investment program starts today - GET 150% FOR A 10-DAY DEPOSIT."
fluffypony: Received: from o1.em.coinbase.com (o1.em.coinbase.com. [50.31.37.137])
fluffypony: by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w20si10513481icc.3.2015.04.08.12.32.35
fluffypony: "em.coinbase.com designates 50.31.37.137 as permitted sender"
fluffypony: so I think CoinBase's SendGrid account has been compromised?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: wait, in this lalaland of imaginary imaginations the newspapers acquire the failed banks ?
mircea_popescu: oh, i see, because they have no btc, all they have is "mindshare", and in respect to that pseudo-capital coinsetter is better capitalised than cavirtex ?
ben_vulpes: sure, coinsetter's not liked around here but grok i not how 'tis a newspaper.
mircea_popescu: dude i swear there was a different coinsetter that was trying to be a sort of coindeks
ben_vulpes: integrity check to mircea_popescu's symbol table please
ben_vulpes: they may have some slave in the third world cranking aggregation on their blog, perhaps that's what's got you spun.
assbot: Logged on 30-04-2013 01:55:22; mjr___: kakobrekla: "The skateboard ride to Saks today was a little rough, but the skateboard back was great!" I am not joking that is the latest status update from coinsetter CEO...he's a nice guy
mircea_popescu: i dunno why they were filed under "just another subreddit" but w/e.
mircea_popescu: it honestly doth not seem so very mistaken upon review.
mircea_popescu: Co-founder & CPO at @BitGo. Co-founder of @Beluga. Running Bitcoin syndicate on AngelList.
mircea_popescu: I believe in markets and trading to increase the wealth of the world."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00025472 = 2.8147 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 15:20:37; deedbot-: accepted: 2
mircea_popescu: it's been danced around with all sorts of patches and whatnot, but multiple ddos avenues related to fragmentation.
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mircea_popescu: ascii_field part of the problem is that you're stuck mushing together items that can arbitrarily be anything between 100 bytes and whatever, 250kb. and there's a lot of them. no way to allocate but dynamically, willy-nilly keep getting them allocated and deallocated and again and again.
mircea_popescu: no, i just mean, with bitcoin is to some degree unavoidalbe, because txn.
ascii_field: typically this is handled with custom 'multi-generational' allocator
mircea_popescu: yes but it's worse than that : if you have an elegant alocator and the people do not, your chain will fork and theirs will not.
mircea_popescu: this is one of those places where bug to bug compatibility rears it's ugly butt.
jurov: what part of buttcoin depends on memory allocation?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if allocator leads to fork, it is wrong
mircea_popescu: kinda why idiots (and by that i mean satoshi) shouldn't be allowed to code in the first place. but hey, we believe in the power of belief...
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it will construct and mine a block that makes everyone else crash, conceivably.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: a proper 1m block should never be able to 'make everyone crash'
ascii_field: if such a thing could, then bitcoin is buggy and the sooner it is detonated, the better
mircea_popescu: in fact, this has happened (not due to the heap issue, true)
mircea_popescu: note very similar issue : exhausted locks, exhausted heap...
ascii_field: it was an epic lameness and a number of folks ought to have felt the stake
mircea_popescu: yeah well. let me propose something for you here. just for curiosity's sake, a rough model.
mircea_popescu: so i broadcast 50k 140 byte txn. you allocate these, they fail, you deallocate them. before you had time to go through the lot however,
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dude i swear there was a different coinsetter that was trying to be a sort of coindeks << I constantly run into new ventures that imagine they are qntra competitors
mircea_popescu: i also broadcast 50k 150 byte txn. these go in your pile, and on fresh memory.
mircea_popescu: by the time you're entirely exhausted, i broadcast some more txn and mine a block with them.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat? << There is a trilema post tracking this phenomenon, but if you want to elevate it to a sustained operation go for it.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this in fact happens 'in the wild.' the only reason it does not lead to forks where folks with, e.g., 1GB of ram wheel off into a parallel universe from folks with 2GB, and 4GB, etc. is,
ascii_field: that the fragging issue itself results in ludicrously overpowered boxes being put to use
mircea_popescu: note that this is one of the majorest issues lurking in the "larger blocks"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: currently the 1mb limit is blessfully keeping THIS (among its many sisters) under the water.
mircea_popescu: that gavin [pretends like he] doesn't know such is exactly why the verbiage as to the retarded boy in one of my articles debunking the nonsense.
jurov: i don't see the issue why that would lead to fork per se.
jurov: you just flush the disk cache by your misallocations and then take longer to verify the block
mircea_popescu: but do you mathematically see the proof where it never would ?
mircea_popescu: in general, going by the "never one single bug in kitchen, and noting that bdb locks are a resource of the kind that pointers are, just one easier to exhaust, i propose this as likely, on the basis of my business heuristics.
mircea_popescu: which obviously differ from your coder heuristics. but differ to our benefit.
jurov: bdb is much more coplicated and hard to debug api than malloc/free
mircea_popescu: and the bitcoind allocation scheme isn't a jewel or anything.
ascii_field: 'isn't a jewel' << mega-understatement of the century
jurov: nothing is a jewel here
jurov: yea, like you never make mistakes
ascii_field: at any rate, this gedankenexperiment is an interesting one - where does 'bug for bug compatibility' legitimately stop? are we obligated to crash for 1GB of uncoalesceable crud, or 2GB? 4? 16?
mircea_popescu: we don't care atm, because we know experimentally the system as deployed is stable.
ascii_field: didn't say that it was (except that it - was, i measured)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, before any sort of change, like say a block size increase, this will have to be measured
mircea_popescu: not among which, the opnion of reddit, the headers of miners etc.
ascii_field: at what point do 'we' get to proclaim that folks using the buggy version are retarded ?
mircea_popescu: we explain the problem, publish the measuring tools, let people declare themselves retarded.
ascii_field has no idea how, or even whether, this is handled.
mircea_popescu: like i've been waiting, on many things, for many years.
ascii_field: and until then, what? we are required to leak at the same rate as which extant bitcoind?
ascii_field: we don't even know for a fact what it is the miners use..
mircea_popescu: as teh expression goes, "relax, you have plenty of time. tomorrow - you die."
ascii_field: to continue with the line of thought, as soon as we so much as frag less than gavin's turd, someone - anyone - could send us off on a fork of less-retardation.
ascii_field: simply by churning out 'godelian' blocks for gavincoin
nubbins`: man, reddit's taking a page from the book of alf today o.O
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939 @ 0.00025223 = 1.2458 BTC [-]
ascii_field: 'oh noez non-crippled hardware, someone other than usg could modify it'
punkman: AMD's "management engine" equivalent is also bad, isn't it though
ascii_field: at one time there was much crowing re: a 'xilinx fpga backdoor'
ascii_field: turned out, it was possible to read back the bitstream from a 'locked' unit
ascii_field: 'oh noez, the chip is auditable when we don't want it to be! boobytrap!'
ascii_field: in every single case, it was a 'oh noez this is accidentally auditable'
ascii_field: oh noez the user is not caged properly! there are a few loose bars!
punkman: ascii_field: not mandatory, as in I can get a motherboard without it?
ascii_field: pathetic buggers, doing the one and only thing they are good at - 'spinning the controversy'
punkman: guess I'll have to look into that
punkman: any part numbers you'd recommend?
ascii_field: punkman: i'm partial to older 'tyan' boards
mircea_popescu: ascii_field have you seen the recent "gamer desktops" recommendations btw ? nothing but intel.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i must confess that it is not a subject i regularly follow.
ascii_field: but i will point out that it has become -nearly- impossible to assemble a proper workstation without recourse to 'antiques' vendors
ascii_field: and among portable computers, amd is extinct other than in 'disposable' models
mircea_popescu: seems teh usg-consensus pretty much is to make amd extinct.
punkman spies old Athlon cartridge on bookshelf
jurov: lolwut, eulora will need recent hardware?
jurov: 3d as needed by eulora is here... 10years or so?
mircea_popescu: punkman wasn't the "management engine" an intel thing ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: AMD has an equivalent
punkman: I think I linked that video before
punkman: System Management Unit (SMU)
BingoBoingo: Back in college the phrasing to trigger a smoke break was "Do you think you can handle a cigarette now?" "I think I Can, Sir."
assbot: What Makes It Page?: The Windows 7 (x64) Virtual Memory Manager: Enrico Martignetti: 9781479114290: Amazon.com: Books ... (
http://bit.ly/1amFHWN )
mats: finally got myself a hard copy after some searching of the interwebs. nobody has bothered to warez, yet...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25539 @ 0.00025467 = 6.504 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: ^ here's where woodcollector agrees to make the "$14,000 wooden B" for... 1 btc.
nubbins`: "just keep it $200 - $400 range and impress me."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16692 @ 0.00025522 = 4.2601 BTC [+]
jurov: obama should ask him for $1T wooden bitcoin next time he's got probs with fed
fluffypony: Obama should just find the secret case
nubbins`: also, he never ordered supper for me like he said he would >:(
mats: youtube.com/watch?v=zvImG-0uIX4
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00027389 = 8.0934 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Probably jsut a handful of "businesses" that found themselved locked in
mircea_popescu: hmm so the ~90 i paid for it isn't really THAT outrageous.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57689 @ 0.00025817 = 14.8936 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13746 @ 0.00025086 = 3.4483 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 12:28:32; nubbins`: wow, guy paid less than $30k for his house.
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 14:03:00; punkman: send him a piece of driftwood
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 14:07:48; nubbins`: i wonder if he's a licensed breeder for those purebred cats he's selling?
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 14:55:01; danielpbarron: someone from -otc sent me a pizza once; just so happened to be the same day as my weekly poker game so i just paid for it
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 15:04:18; Chillum: it was a misunderstanding, I was acquitted
mircea_popescu: "your honor, this man is totally innocent of what the police did to his house."
lobbes: everybody wants to be batman, I guess
jurov: anyone can explain to me why the reddit turd is considered seriously here?
jurov: i get nothing, too :D
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i have nfi why they don't use cocoa powder to disperse crowds.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> speaking of which, i have nfi why they don't use cocoa powder to disperse crowds. << You just end up with a different crowd with a heavier category of people
mod6: "in fuckbuckett." lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah, you ever seen what happens if you accidentally a bag ?
jurov: i'd like to try stevia sometime. it is already available in fine powder
mircea_popescu: jurov "PDFs/PPTs or it didn't happen." was pretty good...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo nah, you ever seen what happens if you accidentally a bag ? << I get the most delicous coffing fits.
mircea_popescu: i mean people would come with their freshly baked cookies for a dusting...
BingoBoingo: Fuck, grandpa had a stroke Friday and he's already back to walking around normally. The only thing that seems to have changed is he actually takes his blood pressure medicine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00025959 = 10.4745 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Only only hope that if I make it to 90 I can be that durable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00026302 = 4.4187 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I guess I better get a hold of meals on wheels
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 16:15:40; fluffypony: and claim I found them
TomServo: cazalla: should've suggested swordfish if ya gonna troll :P << shit, I was serious. I must be using my rose-tinted glasses on this one. I'mma have to rewatch this now.
mircea_popescu: so are we gonna call teh usg ops "tiki taka" ? seems adequately derpy...
mircea_popescu: "oh we shall send people in #bitcoin-assets as per standard counter-actor and sabotage procedures to be made within hours and laughed at all the way to the front desk."
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 19:38:27; fluffypony: so I think CoinBase's SendGrid account has been compromised?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you care enough about coinbase to write up this latest lulz ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I haven't been up long enough to get good sourcing on it. If someone else want to write it up I'd check and publish it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00025634 = 11.9198 BTC [-] {3}