ben_vulpes installed cocoapods and friends, wants the day back
phf: i think that has something to do with monotonous, high carb diet that those guys receive otherwise, to keep them pacified
phf: "<jackdaniel> [04:47:11] keep in mind my CLIM fu is very weak though :)" yet the guy is collecting money for paid CLIM internals development
☟︎ deedbot: abitserious1 voiced for 30 minutes.
gribble: felipelalli was last seen in #trilema 3 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, 44 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <felipelalli> mircea_popescu: why mpex isn't listed on Google anymore?
https://www.google.com.br/#safe=off&q=mpex I just realized that yesterday, is that purposeful?
phf: "Systemd Rolls Out Its Own Mount Tool ☶ linux systemd phoronix.com"
phf: phoronix by the way consistently produces pro-freedesktop pro-redhat articles
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a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 17:35 a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 16:40 phf: asciilifeform: that attention from fundraiser and marketing that gabriel_laddel was so excited about ~obviously~ attracted not talent, but the usual modernizer suspects. i'm reading their channel logs and marvel.
gabriel_laddel: We'd previously discussed all the time wasted on 'backends', he agreed that we should get rid of them etc etc, and then a little bit of money shows up and BAM, he's happy to entertain any number of idiots trying to 'modernize' McCLIM
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: Also, he's funding jackdaniel, who is generating all the noise
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 00:09 asciilifeform looked up 'tucker max', wants the 5 minutes back!1111
mircea_popescu: this was cca 1999 mind you, ie, about TWENTY YEARS AGO.
mircea_popescu: but the slowtrain patients still imagine "reddit consensus" etc today.
gabriel_laddel: on the other hand, beach did implement some of McCLIM on CLX, wrote the lisp-mode for climacs and has maintained the project for years
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell felipelalli plox to stop with the log in log out or you'll get banned.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 02:37 gabriel_laddel: We'd previously discussed all the time wasted on 'backends', he agreed that we should get rid of them etc etc, and then a little bit of money shows up and BAM, he's happy to entertain any number of idiots trying to 'modernize' McCLIM
gabriel_laddel: "SIR the enemy approachs! How many men is it going take to defend paris?" "nfi, it's never been tried"
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: you don't know how to hide these annoying messages in your client? I am not doing this purposely. Or it is the network, or I turned my notebook off and on again.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli it's not a matter of me hiding them ; really look into getting a znc instrance, it's 10 bux a yeart or somesuch
felipelalli: ok, I'll look for it, thank you. I forgot about znc.
phf: ok, i've no idea what my point was, huh
gabriel_laddel: Eh, this is all my fault anyways. I'll file it under 'agreeing to anything counts for nothing unless in-wot' also 'recover key, dolt'
gabriel_laddel: you said you're not sending anything without my key, so I've not asked.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: email? I have a name and address I can use right now if you're willing to forego the key. Else, waiting.
gabriel_laddel: (person in question sent me addy for something unrelated)
phf: hehe "i 'av it, gov'na, i swer on me mum"
gabriel_laddel: Lel. I'm not swearing to anything. But if you want to take a what, sub 100 usd risk of sending it to $rando, I've the info.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel I'll file it under 'agreeing to anything counts for nothing unless in-wot' << = >> But if you want to take a what, sub 100 usd risk of sending it to $rando, I've
phf: yo gotta try socratic method
mircea_popescu: don't feel too bad, i got a lot of experience with this on slavegirls
mircea_popescu: "master, i have learned lesson, will never ever X again" "bitch, you just did". *dumbfounded look* "back to your cell."
mircea_popescu: with the best of intentions, learning is ~impossible a task.
gabriel_laddel: Meh, I wouldn't be entertaining this notion if it were not for the fact that I can ~ sell ~ the x61.
mircea_popescu: but the good news is that after the first however many years of triple to five-nine failure rate, it drops to one or two, meaning that often you're forcfed to repeat the same point less than a hundred times!
mircea_popescu: lol he wants to put his software on it and sell it, check out the jew gates!
gabriel_laddel is presently eating sardines in harrisa, artichoke halves, olives and bread.
mircea_popescu: o nevermind, i got it all wrong! "Tucker Max had the opportunity to be a spokesman for a generation. He had the opportunity to lend his voice to the revolt against the effeminization of North American Men, and maybe even lead a 21st-century revival of classical masculinity. Instead, he is pissing that opportunity away, in the hopes that he’ll earn a morsel of approval from the gatekeepers of mainstream culture and literatur
mircea_popescu: e. The sad part is, he’s not even selling out. He’s trading principles, honesty and consistency for nothing. He will not reap money, power, or fame from his transformation into an emasculated poof. Tucker Max is ignoring his opportunity to be a part of history, and his only reward will be a well-deserved slide into obscurity." (cca 2012.)
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phf: i thought milo yiannopoulos is the new tucker max
phf: the same, but i thought nick denton has that mainstream legitimacy. tucker max and m.y. seem like they exist in the same blogspace, i.e. people who used to post videos about 9/11 truth with that matrix soundtrack
mircea_popescu: truth be told us subculture is kinda arid and uninteresting a topic.
mircea_popescu: from obama's speeches to latest lindsay lohan lirics, i'd rather watch africans build huts.
phf: at least later is mildly educational
mircea_popescu: i suppose the sentiment is mutual : trilema is too hard, hurts the head and the undercurrent of disdain is hard to miss, even for esl tards.
mircea_popescu: phf intel says "roosh", ie some middle eastern looking kid.\
phf: mircea_popescu: that's a very fine intel
gabriel_laddel: does mircea_popescu have slavegirls swallow stool samples to bring their own tastes inline with his own?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i had a chick suck out a banana like once, "de palmares". not really into the stuff tbh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this sounds closer to faggot insemination fantasy than anything.
gabriel_laddel: Idk, never tried. Since you are the master in the relationship, I'd assume the sampling would only go one direction.
mircea_popescu: scrawny jew trying to go by gate of large house where huge hounds. they bark him fiercely, he's afraid to pass.
mircea_popescu: owner is like "go ahead, what, don't you know barkin' dogs don't bite ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the transplant is re specific problem, c difficile infestation.
mircea_popescu: it's ~the equivalent of making candida chick scissor with un-candida chick. except obv this'd work the other way.
gabriel_laddel: blood transfusion from young mice to old is supposed to help the latter iirc
mircea_popescu: well yeah, it works so shockingly for one thing that they started doing it "to see". and there's DEFINITELY a strong undercurrent of alt-sex in there.
mircea_popescu: recall the lulz of the various "corporations" in early history of finance ? brits got wind of italian/dutch economic practice, started... well, kickstarting basically.
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a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 03:09 gabriel_laddel: vending machines for drugs. rigged with explosives.
mircea_popescu: shinohai lmao check that out, exactly 0 tardstalk productivity. da fuck is wrong with the mouthbreathers.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-16 22:04 asciilifeform: son: 'whatdoyamean i gotta dip them'
phf: i guess they didn't pay
gribble: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: znc done. I hope I have configured it properly. If you see something weird again please tell me.
deedbot: boolcrap voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: in other youtube news, "mujeres solteras en argentina buscan hombres solteros"
mircea_popescu: rank nonsense. what women ever sought lone men, i wish to see this wonder.
mircea_popescu: lone may be excused, but no fucking way was it ever a selling point in the entire history of sexuate reproduction.
boolcrap: no but i did find my way through page tables
boolcrap: its not really lost, just burried.
boolcrap: is that a giant comb? wtf is that from
☟︎ mircea_popescu: lol original impetuus there was big story back in 2013, dude threw out laptop, thousands of btc
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> phf intel says "roosh", ie some middle eastern looking kid.\ << Looks like he's trying too hard is my impression. Maybe becomes something if CLitler is elected.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> that sounds very familiar << Runs the Return of Kink or whatever
mircea_popescu: did a "fuck girls in every country". overlapped some countries with my network in them, lulz resulted.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what makes you think yours would win out ? << Yeah this is problem clinically addressed with oral vancomycin and one of the few problems addressed by that.
mircea_popescu: in other non-news, lol @kim lacapria being all butthurt at gawker being thorn to shreds.
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha wait wait ; huffington post now pays shitty spam network outbrain to push its crapolade nobody reads anyway ?
mircea_popescu: "After dinner we went upstairs and I eased her onto my king-size bed. It took four hours of foreplay and at least thirty repetitions of “No, Roosh, no” until she allowed my penis to enter her vagina. No means no—until it means yes." << holy mother of ... well not of fuck, of ... snails, maybe ?
mircea_popescu: who in his right fucking mind has four hours to spend thusly ? even if you're not making 100k an hour writing cia factbook entries, the time is gotta be worth enough to hire a hooker.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do these people always pick up this sort of incompetence ? oh, "dating advice from a loser who admits to spending four hours trying to get some derp to whatever, play dead fish for three minutes. presumably after spending 95 minutes trying to start his 1983 honda."
mircea_popescu: "come see what zimmerman thinks about encryption - a guy who admits to losing his pgp key sometime in the 90s and doesn't see the problem with this"
mircea_popescu: is there some rule that "experts" in anglosphere must be ludicrously inept at their chosen expertise, as per their own lights ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 00:57 phf: "Versions of GnuPG before 1.4.11 and 2.0.16 allowed to import bogus direct key signatures."
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 02:11 mircea_popescu: i guess we ping Framedragger ? or let him be ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the problem here is moreover default trust. so you wake up one day and you see... "gnupg". nomina nuda. you look around, theres' "werner koch" idem, nomina nuda. you look, there's "tor" with "shari" and "isis". names, hollow as can be. but the natural tendency of the brain, to see movement in a succession of stills and meaning in noise and structure in names convinces you these are THINGS.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and for lack of obvious, pungent, loud alternative, you decide that... well... where's that quote
mircea_popescu: "Pangloss enseignait la métaphysico-théologo-cosmolonigologie. Il prouvait admirablement qu’il n’y a point d’effet sans cause, et que, dans ce meilleur des mondes possibles, le château de monseigneur le baron était le plus beau des châteaux, et madame la meilleure des baronnes possibles.
mircea_popescu: Il est démontré, disait-il, que les choses ne peuvent être autrement ; car tout étant fait pour une fin, tout est nécessairement pour la meilleure fin. Remarquez bien que les nez ont été faits pour porter des lunettes ; aussi avons-nous des lunettes. Les jambes sont visiblement instituées pour être chaussées, et nous avons des chausses. Les pierres ont été formées pour être taillées et pour en faire des châtea
mircea_popescu: ux ; aussi monseigneur a un très beau château : le plus grand baron de la province doit être le mieux logé ; et les cochons étant faits pour être mangés, nous mangeons du porc toute l’année : par conséquent, ceux qui ont avancé que tout est bien ont dit une sottise ; il fallait dire que tout est au mieux."
mircea_popescu: then ~I~'m supposedly "held", absurdly, to "demonstrate" and to "bring proof" and to "verify signature" against a ridiculous "default" constructed in this manner.
mircea_popescu: which is the original point of
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523089 : if for whatever reason you're unwilling to bias against pangloss, notwithstanding that this is both shown by experience to be a most productive, useful and eficacious heuristic as well as deductively sound ; nevertheless at the very least you can't bias FOR it.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:13 mircea_popescu: evidently, the socialist party does the exact same thing. for reasons of habit however, it doesn't irk you when they do it ; only when we do it.
mircea_popescu: (the foregoing, outrageously, shamefully, shockingly, is merely a plain restatement of the intellectual scepticism requirement. in the ignare, barbarous world we find ourselves immersed, this apparently needs statement, because the concept has somehow been hijacked by the very fucking arlequins it's supposed to guard against, from "obama" to "roger ver" and the whole kaboodle of rotten, hollow reeds in between. which incident
mircea_popescu: ally IS the absolutel measure of "how barbaric are the times ?" : look how many of the fortresses build to keep the barbarians out are actually working to keep them in.)
mircea_popescu is idly curious just how many "independent venues" will be reduced to "here's my inept restatement of logs" before the year/decade's out
mircea_popescu: (all of which, of course, entirely oblivious to the fact that their "branding" entirely fails to work, for one, and of the global meaning of this sort of cultural crushing on the other)
mircea_popescu: not like i didn't put a fucking notice! on the very trilema!
mircea_popescu: but apparently what i say is somehow optional rather not mandatory now or some weird shit.
shinohai: $s 5-horsepower rectal educator
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm starting adnotation work on mega 110k word opus. possibly the only item of interest to come out of usian letters this year.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the title is "The Story of Elliot Rodger. By Elliot Rodger. Adnotated."
shinohai: mircea_popescu , I am rather disappoint that not a single person has responded to generous Eulora offer.
☟︎ shinohai: making gpg key is too much I suppose.
mircea_popescu: teh beoble want living wage! too dumb to otherwise feed self!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you're gonna liek... ruin it nao, i'm just not gonna say next time!
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 04:53 boolcrap: is that a giant comb? wtf is that from
thestringpuller: lol "we're combing the desert" i always thought the afro pick was a nice touch. they don't make movies like that anymore.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ~everyone figured out by now the usg can not continue.
phf: i always assumed lizard hitler death ray is activated by total recall style machinery, complete with four fingered alien hand shape on the switch
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 13:54 shinohai: mircea_popescu , I am rather disappoint that not a single person has responded to generous Eulora offer.
mircea_popescu: PeterL you'd prolly qualify, yea, unless oyu got large mining skills ?
PeterL: have not set up game yet, but I have been thinking it might be fun to try
mircea_popescu: anyway, why : because merchants want to be able to "service" the inept consumer by tacking on extra fees if they get delayed.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is there some rule that "experts" in anglosphere must be ludicrously inept at their chosen expertise, as per their own lights ? << Yes, if every "expert" sucks then tournament market doesn't need a very sweet pot for the winrar.
PeterL: am I correct that we (specifically asciilifeform) decided that a transaction should not be accepted/relayed if its parents are not already in a block?
mircea_popescu: PeterL what's contemplated here is a) miner's internal kitchen, which he's allowed to do on the grounds of having paid for the gear ; b) not substantially different, you can just regard the two txn as one, provided you know about both.
mod6: (22:56) <@mod6> and don't forget to grab:
mircea_popescu: basically prb is trying to act as a sort of bitcoin mining code repository ; some of the miners contribute some of the less critical code and well... github.
PeterL: so miner running trb-esque thing would not have second transaction
mircea_popescu: miner runnign trb-esque thing only would not, right. the first gets cut off because fees, the second because unknown inputs.
PeterL: but will trb accept block with chain of transactions in it?
mircea_popescu: it was put in because they're desperate for relevancy ; and it was free code ; and more code is more better.
PeterL: otherwise would fork, no?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Some miners already seemed to be running software that looked for "Child Pays For Parent" situations.
mircea_popescu: trb is however distinguished by being the most acceptant. so...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I thought since 2013 though some operations turn over
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform back before they got smushed on eth, when they thought they got money and a voice ? yeah, i remember.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't think there was a time since I came into communion with the proto-republic where it wasn't the case.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No. Miners already were looking for those situations to collect fees. This is just dump a bunch of unnecessary turdcode on the masses
mircea_popescu: eh, usg's problem is that it ain't got no money; not that it ain't got where to use the money it has.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Miners always had slutty mempools.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 16:42 mircea_popescu: lol what waterfall.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
mircea_popescu: EVERYONE ELSE CONTRIBUTES TO COSTS!!! DOGE CONTRIBUTES TO SALES!!!1
mircea_popescu: derp actually was dumb enough to cover for vessenes/merck and the rest of the scammer band ?
mircea_popescu: "But it is even worse when many of those attacks are agitated by someone that purports to be part of your own project. Not just involved with, even leading projects whose developers and users are openly hostile to us."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not news, Roundup Xtend material
BingoBoingo: Unless someone else wants to support case of noose
BingoBoingo: Yeah, kinda why if it still seems fresh enough this weekend will be roundup xtended
mircea_popescu: found the one lone dude still competent in the whole shit fondue fountain-castle.
mircea_popescu: the one true shocker (and unsurprisingly fishwraps avoid the mention) is just how few hands were involved.
mircea_popescu: a dozen people (if that) carry on their "very reasonably engineered" with flecks of "right thing" a la mmap shoulders THOUSANDS of fucking social media monkeys and assorted barn animals ; they see a paltry few thousands out of the BILLIONS this shitfest burns each year ; and they don't even have good parking spaces.
phf: there is nothing wrong with your television set. do not attempt to adjust the picture.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 00:44 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511937 << oh, "color revolutions" dun work ? tell you what, we'll steal your country's exports and with the proceeds finance an alt-country we'll pretend is realy your country. ha-ha!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing obliges you to accept transactions that don't conform.
mircea_popescu: sure, this will prolly "be implemented" ; then some idiots will "use it" ; then we'll get some "oh mp is a scammer because i sent him 5 btc he's not recognizing" threads on reddit.
mircea_popescu: there's also people who imagine they "have a voice" ; or "social media power" or whatnot.
mircea_popescu: there's the regular idiots who think themselves "rich", esr style.
mircea_popescu: there's no end to the human capacity for self delusion - which is fundamentally the point of our discussion coupla days ago. you can't have a protocol that keeps people from being stupid.
mircea_popescu: do you know how many people think "500 followers" means 500 followers ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, do you know how many think they have seven sons ?
ben_vulpes: more tragically, do you know how many social media mommies think that 20 likes on instagram trump 3 girlfriends who'll come over and hold their kid while the smm sobs over a lost parent?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they got nuked, currently is all they can try for.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe stephen still wears red pants next year ; or maybe brown ; or maybe dead.
ben_vulpes: it's an excellent opportunity to teach about the stealing being stolen.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how you can be forced to store txn you dun wanna.
mircea_popescu: the other side of "segwit" is that there will NEVER be a block size increase. period and full stop.
mircea_popescu: this is all fine. and they're more than welcome to hold whatever sidechain db in whatever manner until they fall over.
mircea_popescu: you can count on 1`000`000 bytes ~ every six minutes til kingdom come. that's your bitcoin footprint.
mircea_popescu: that they make segwit ; that we make deedbot (the two are not even vaguely dissimilar, by the way, except prb doesn't know how to code cleanly), is really nobody's problem.
mircea_popescu: heck, we might even implement sidechains of whatever fashionable flavour of the month, as a bold-on, if anyone's bored enough.
mircea_popescu: though it should not happen prior to 2018, i expect a lot of dao-lolz coming out of what's fundamentally a middling design.
shinohai: I'll gladly make someone coloured coin and relieve them of good BTC
phf: try buying a $1000 bill for less than $1700
mircea_popescu: case of "only odd digit is good from now on" instead of making new currency, to stablize
mircea_popescu: also case of "converbile - but only so and so numbers monday ; so and so tuesday" etc.
mircea_popescu: to get you the actual pointers i'd have to dig out through my official history of currency trainingbook which i continents ago misplaced.
mircea_popescu: i suppose some soapy smith somewhere did something like this.
mircea_popescu: also money lottery was popular in the time of voltaire
mircea_popescu: (anyone up to date on the lulz that passed for fiscal management of the kingdom back in 1750s ? )
mircea_popescu: well, state issued "rents", ie, you give them so much and they give you so much back.
mircea_popescu: THEN came up with idea of lottery, to repay full value for the serials took from a hat.
mircea_popescu: then voltaire andsome friends bought all the emissions and so "won" the "lottery"
mircea_popescu: really, the 1700s are more instructive to the student of modern finance than any available material.
mircea_popescu: nah. the original colored coins was a "let's do mpex over bitcoin network because mp is something you can replace by a napkin sketch of a protocol"
mircea_popescu: ie, THESE coins are now going to be SHARES in so and so.
mircea_popescu: iirc i even told the story of the gambling game i devised which made me uber rich
a111: Logged on 2015-03-07 16:12 mircea_popescu: turbo was for kids tho, we had the one before that. with fake money.
BingoBoingo: anyways asciilifeform The auction made qntra early
diana_coman: hm, deedbot handed me 2 broomsticks before handing the OTP link (in the third try)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not sure. I am a young-ish.
phf: everything is digital and commerce is microagression anyway
BingoBoingo: microagressions aren't real. There's just actual aggressions and thinskinned butthurt
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they don't. these spontaneous monetizations are spontaneous from an interplay of sexuality and violence which does not exist in anglo world.
mircea_popescu: the ~reason we monetized these was because a) we'd snowball the girls into little piles as soon as the snow came and b) we'd wrestle hundreds of times a day.
phf: ah the old art of wrestling the girl into snow
phf: there's mtg but there's not even trade around mtg, afaiu it is heavily mediated through parents "so it that it's fair"
mircea_popescu: 10yo acceptable maneuvers re girls were a) throwing soft snowball (really hard iced ones were for boys only!) ; sticking snow behind neck but only if done with trickery (ie, if the girl was aware she's about to get it you couldn't do it) and finally pulling pants off. bonus points if also underwear.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it got pretty much all of the girls wearing dresses.
phf: i think wrestle also required trickery
mircea_popescu: phf by and large the deep driver being that girls at that age suck, being as they are ~marmots. babyfat bubbles on uneasy legs.
phf: because you couldn't really test strength against girl, that was inconceivable and those who tried were just weirdos (not to mention testing strength against girl the fuck), but if you managed to do a sneak drop
mircea_popescu: ah, yeah, ankle hook was permitted. if you count that as wrestling.
felipelalli: asciilifeform: I know :p but I don't know znc just died.
mircea_popescu: pretty ridoinculous seeing how half the time i fuck girl with knees together.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: felipelalli you're supposed to get a cheap vps and run znc there.
mircea_popescu: if you run it on yoru desktop is no better than your normal ircf client
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: it's better than my notebook :) I'm pretty sure my cleaning lady plugged the computer off. OK, you guys win, I'll pay a vps shit just to install this little shit.
mircea_popescu: a little vps is useful to have anyway. it's one of those things, like a shed. once you have it - uses abound.
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shinohai: BingoBoingo: dooli added you to list doolipail/cat-lovers <<< I suppose due to latest kitty-litter Qntra in rss feed
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 15:26 asciilifeform: is being 'helped' by kako as we speak, likely.
BingoBoingo: For that we need to go back to the Egyptian Scientists and that time Big headed Yakub invented white folk as the perfect slave race.
znort987: asciilifeform: yes, I spent the last week or so reading the logs in both parallel universes before I dip my toes in the waters of irc.
BingoBoingo: But Big Headed Yakub made white folk wrong!
znort987: so fully aware. also don't have a dog in this fight. like I said was trying to see how the wot worked and gave rating where I felt they were due
znort987: asciilifeform: yeah, I had that conversation in the other universe. I actually had assumed - given who hangs here - that wot was just gpg keys giving rating to gpg keys and that as long as signed ratings were broadcast far and wide, there was no need for central server. but then I was wrong and discovered the 3-headed snake. I think I'm more or less up to date now.
trinque: and for that matter *should*
znort987: asciilifeform: yeah, like I said, I assumed.
trinque: aha, I'm not gonna bolt some sweet shit on the side of deedbot til gossipd
znort987: trinque: one point that was raised (in other chan) around the gpg keys signing ratings of other keys was how to handle revoked keys.
trinque: could do the chattering to other deedbots about ratings if ratings were signed matter fed to deedbot via pastebin
trinque: phf and I have briefly discussed it
znort987: asciilifeform: mmh. ok, I'll bite. why ?
znort987: asciilifeform: yeah the timestamp of sigs in gpg has always felt like a sorely missing feature. but then I guess you'd need - idk - a blockchain to solve that particular problem I guess.
znort987: asciilifeform: nope. noob here. been reading *some* of the recent logs.
phf: if it's keys signing keys then deedbot's ux is rediced to wotpaste urls to signed messages, and then deedbots role is to download/keep a history
trinque: phf: ftr I wholly support this idea, and in this scheme it's not global time that matters; it's when deedbot saw the material.
phf: trinque: well, since it's only order of your own rates that's important (rather than global rate order), then you can keep own sequence. 1.rate.phf.-1.doofus, 2.rate.phf.3.actually i take that back. you can just use timestamp if you trust your clock to not fuck you over
phf: asciilifeform: only important is that one number is bigger than another
phf: because you don't need to place all rates into absolute order, you just need to order rates of a single person, then it's up to that person to choose which sequence they use. of course better to just keep own counter, but lazy people can rely on timestamp, and get screwed over from time to time
phf: proud product of hozshitnarprod, izhevsk
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ;;later tell znort987 a) it's one part of what looks like 7 or 8 and b) for entomologist interest only.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually it was a very good coat. tough as nails.
phf: same factory produced baby blankets, specialty coats for generals and buran reentry flack
a111: Logged on 2016-08-21 13:07 mircea_popescu: listen : go to the president cafe or w/e it'scalled, the one right across from the teatre / across the street from that park, an' take some pics.
trinque: went instead to "nuestra tierra" and ate a massive pile of seafood, drank muchas margaritas
deedbot: lolgato1 voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: they can deal with only so much complexity before they expect to receive a tasty morsel
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 17:32 asciilifeform: ' If ever there were a situation crying out for a smart contract - this is it.'
mircea_popescu: bugs are technically deals. just, deals you're not part of.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 21:41 asciilifeform: znort987: rather, yes, there was provision for it in the original openpgp spec, but it is a bogus concept because it entails a global repository of revocation messages and a universal agreement re what time it presently is.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 22:16 asciilifeform: << holy shit, ro of the period was a motherfucking india ?!
mircea_popescu: ceausescu was paying the country's debts recall. 5bn in 9 years.
mircea_popescu: a strange sort of im not even sure wtf it was. insulation foam.
diana_coman used to like watching them curl in hot oil ; not eating them though
mircea_popescu: vietnam export in exchange for whatever heavy machinery they were getting.
mircea_popescu: well, priviledge is priviledge. i never had any then nor now. I WILL DIE FORNEVER!
diana_coman: re meat though in the countryside everybody grew their own meat iirc
mircea_popescu: yeah, and then if they caught you cutting a veal they'd lock you up!
diana_coman still recalls playing a "police game" which consisted roughly in driving the car across a small figuring and shouting: got another policeman!
diana_coman: apparently as a result of trips from the countryside with the pig carcass
diana_coman: I suppose "they" being the neighbours who also cut veal etc dunno about locking up
diana_coman: though there was ofc the "the fox got them *again*" eternal story re chicken I think
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 22:25 phf: proud product of hozshitnarprod, izhevsk
deedbot: VINSIN voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: i love it when i ask mysqld things it takes seconds to answer.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 18:39 asciilifeform: (... pokemon wrappers? )
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol. ya i even entered pog tourney once.
pete_dushenski: kids aren't allowed to compete anymore. too many winners and lusers.
pete_dushenski: so no pogs, magic, pokemon cards, etc. just shiny bobbles
pete_dushenski: gym ? like work out ? /me can't quite fathom alf doing deadlifting/chinups/treadmill
pete_dushenski: fwiw i also can't fathom alf at president trump's inauguration dinner table
gribble: mthreat was last seen in #trilema 19 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <mthreat> trinque: sweet thanks
pete_dushenski: anyways, our mental representations of one another would indeed be fascinating. a motley assemblage of irc logs, blog posts, and various sm tidbits
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: any thoughts on conference 4 of late ?
pete_dushenski: well, you exist as well. i could visit you too. ben, bingo, shin, mod idem. all of which would be a few hours travel, not a whole day each way.
pete_dushenski: hell, davout wouldn't be a bad guy to ring up atm either.
pete_dushenski: ben's probably marginally closer than BingoBoingo from here