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pete_dushenski: shinohai: heh. that dream has been deader than the animal fur on trump's head for 2 years and counting.
phf: lunix on desktop! women in javascript! ubuntu!
phf: you've got the socialist cheat sheet by way of having played this game before. others -- don't
BingoBoingo: ;;google How do I keep the squirrels in my yard away from my bird feeders
phf: it's like every american "knows" who ghandi is, but who's ever heard of nehru?
phf: do you know what hurree babu really wants? he wants to be made a member of the royal society by taking ethnological notes.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 26-02-2016 18:42:55; asciilifeform: '‘Ach, sir, it iss worse when they become refractory! One man, I recall, clung to the bars of hiss cage when we went to take him out. You will scarcely credit, sir, that it took six warders to dislodge him, three pulling at each leg. We reasoned with him. “My dear fellow,” we said, “think of all the pain and trouble you are causing to us!” But no, he would not listen! Ach, he wass very troub
phf: i know a lot of career bureaucrats through my parents, and most of them tend to be very proud of chance associations, mentions, friendships, etc. "of note"
phf: i'm pretty sure gogol made a few jabs at this particular feature of bureaucrat caste
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (for n00bz who think 'it is impossible to be sacked from usg' - it is actually very easy. one merely has to be employed as a contractor, of whom there is a dozen or two for every actual 'civil servant', and then you can be fired any hour.) << Or appointee (i.e. patronage position)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Many are, but they first have to survive audition level appointment unless their scales are sufficiently silver
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mircea_popescu: phf> lunix on desktop! women in javascript! ubuntu! << you know eulora is pretty much 100% woman-made.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> why - i do not know. <<it's the human love of variety. ends up making contrived shit seem appealing, especially to women (and castrated men, such as intellectuals and bureaucrats - which, by the way, are about the same thing)
mircea_popescu: every farm hottie in the mud envies the old lady her complex undergarments. blessfully unaware that the old lady needs the complex undergarments to mask the fact that there's no activity they'd get in the way of.
phf: mircea_popescu: but it's not written in javascript
phf: pretty sure it's not these womens fault, eulora's upstream was "derps in gaming"
jurov has after maybe a week of full lisp immersion managed to write a function that crashes eclisp cold. details withheld till i reproduce on another machine
jurov: and only 8 lines fitting in terminal!
jurov: yes, looks like that
phf: ftr i've worked with female programmers, on average not better or worse then males, who would've thought. i've also briefly worked with "women in javascript" and they are predominantly wreckers
mircea_popescu: phf usually "women in gaming" is a supercharged "women in javascript" thing. very politically driven drivel.
phf: friend of mine coined a term "tech dykes" years before it became a thing. bossy mostly lesbian girls who are good at pushing nerdy boys around, so work as program leads and agile consultants. but that was before there was a strong political component
mircea_popescu: most gaming programmers are nerdy kids, hard to be motivated by males.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 03:16:10; mircea_popescu: well, except if it's ben_vulpes
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BingoBoingo: “It’s not the same,” I told him. “Reading fiction builds empathy.”
phf: well, that was a rabbit hole of progressive insanity
☟︎ phf: dana goldstein her husband andrei scheinkman, andrew hacker and his "domestic partner" claudia dreifus, just leave these names here, for the log
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, where does this "citizen statistics" come from?
phf: "It could, for example, teach students how the Consumer Price Index is computed, what is included and how each item in the index is weighted — and include discussion about which items should be included and what weights they should be given."
phf: "I hope that mathematics departments can also create courses in the history and philosophy of their discipline, as well as its applications in early cultures. Why not mathematics in art and music — even poetry — along with its role in assorted sciences? The aim would be to treat mathematics as a liberal art, making it as accessible and welcoming as sculpture or ballet."
BingoBoingo: mathematics in music is called musical theory and already a class sequence
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BingoBoingo: It also spots a lot of failures enrolled in class
☟︎ phf: speaking of ballet, i went to see Mariinsky Ballet company perform at jfk center, place was packed, tickets were sold out months in advance, cheapest of them >$100. the company comes to u.s. once a year, brings one production, performs for one week. they are masters of their craft, with rigorous, brutal training regime and a demanding director. and it shows! meanwhile "accessible" american ballet is by and large mediocre, using
phf: "experimental" forms to compensate for lack of rigour.
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ben_vulpes: ballet is 'start when you're five and dedicate your life to it and 95% of you will fail to accomplish anything in the art even after doing so through your mid twenties at which point your body will be ruined and your mind will have forgone all education in pursuit of the art"
ben_vulpes: and i don't want any more fucking scultors enough people already look at sera and say "oh herp derp i can make shapes with plate steel"
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assbot: Mosul dam engineers warn it could fail at any time, killing 1m people | World news | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/21JqgxB )
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shinohai: "Bitcoin was designed and is intended to work with anonymous addresses" <<< but thought addresses weren't completely anonymous anyway.
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assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 16:58:23; asciilifeform: d bet money that there is some peculiar mpbism that is being exploited here.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00056751 = 12.3433 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i think that's how warrants etc are going to go from now on. deedbot ftw.
mircea_popescu: holy shit sherlock, hey BingoBoingo check out slashdot comprehending things!
jurov: asciilifeform: wake me up if you manage to compile chromium in 3G ram. the linker eats 10G. i have 12G here and must log out and terminate most processes and then emerge it.
☟︎ jurov: or do you have some $secretsuperfast swap device?
☟︎ jurov: even then, the trashing would make the machine unusable for a ~hour
jurov: so, it's there for a reason.
mircea_popescu: "It drives dropout rates and is mostly useless in real life. Andrew Hacker has a plan for getting rid of it." dude, seriously ?! "stem myth" ? that place is so set for greatness. and i mean greatness literally.
mircea_popescu: since you have the profiler right there (do you ?) mind sharing like, the top three things on the stack ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Only mathematicians and some engineers actually use advanced math in their day-to-day work, Hacker argues—even the doctors, accountants, and coders of the future shouldn’t have to master abstract math that they’ll never need." [and could one day use to find out some unsavory facts about the best possible castle in the world!"
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 06:50:55; phf: well, that was a rabbit hole of progressive insanity
jurov: mircea_popescu: ask google
mircea_popescu: like in that joke with the drunk and the samovar. you know it ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google largest three items on chromium profile by ram
mircea_popescu: you see jurov, google is next to useless for any purpose that involves having taken algebra II. all it can do is help you build empathy.
jurov: and i did not profile it, just looked on top output
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 06:56:42; BingoBoingo: How do you get statistics without Algebra?
mircea_popescu: sort-of trying to chinese cartel the electoral process, pretty much.
jurov: just for the record, there are several projects built on top of llvm (cling,clang,clasp) promising C++ interpretation and easy interop with lisp. i tried to build and use these, not one succeeded and they are so behemoth so any analysis of the problem was out of the question
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "you can have your own opinions, but we want to move from this situation where harvard & mit lied to you about you being smart enough to resolve any real word conondrum 'if you just got the facts [as officially branded facts by harvard and mit]'" to a much more economical "you can have your own opinions just as long as they're what we say they should be".
jurov: so it's prolly the same with chromium's javascript engine
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 08:51:15; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $
mircea_popescu: jurov is it actually the js interpreter that takes up the bulk of that ?
☟︎ jurov: yes, surely all the HTML5 and older(like DOM) functionality
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 07:07:25; BingoBoingo: It also spots a lot of failures enrolled in class
mircea_popescu: chick's tougher than coffin nails, right in there with the she-marine. heck, they still use beatings to this day to loosen the girlies up.
mircea_popescu: like it or not, the tendons won't give unless you get physical. you can talk yourself hoarse, it dun do anything.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 08:53:24; ben_vulpes: and i don't want any more fucking scultors enough people already look at sera and say "oh herp derp i can make shapes with plate steel"
assbot: this simple function always segfaults - at least on linux amd64 (#225) · Issues · Embeddable Common-Lisp / ECL · GitLab ... (
http://bit.ly/1p1F3WH )
jurov: i came around this in course of embedding lisp in eulora client
jurov: such backdoor would be very convenied, dontcha think
mircea_popescu: jurov dude you trolled me ? i mistook eul- to be a function defined in eulora space pinged DianaComan about it lmao
mircea_popescu: jurov apparently it was already reported. kochmanski says 159 (fixed 16.1.2)
mircea_popescu: ftr anacam was as close to driving culture as the times and potus aspire to be and occasionally manage.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 15:07:13; jurov: asciilifeform: wake me up if you manage to compile chromium in 3G ram. the linker eats 10G. i have 12G here and must log out and terminate most processes and then emerge it.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 15:07:49; jurov: or do you have some $secretsuperfast swap device?
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 15:09:58; mircea_popescu: since you have the profiler right there (do you ?) mind sharing like, the top three things on the stack ?
mircea_popescu: let them cry into their fiction books like normal people.
mircea_popescu: romanian school has a whole curricula in literature dedicated to making the kiddies cry. this is well and good and the ~only way.
jurov: re: duplicate bugreport.. perhaps i envied you being target of lizard hitler pranks, and imagined myself finally being targeted
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 15:17:37; jurov: just for the record, there are several projects built on top of llvm (cling,clang,clasp) promising C++ interpretation and easy interop with lisp. i tried to build and use these, not one succeeded and they are so behemoth so any analysis of the problem was out of the question
mircea_popescu: which one of you has the miserably poor taste of impersonating the dead woman ?
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 15:19:06; mircea_popescu: jurov is it actually the js interpreter that takes up the bulk of that ?
mircea_popescu: no but on second pass this is actually correct, isn't it. ~I~ have been breaking the protocol with that design, indiscutably.
kakobrekla: yes i have seen it, nothing i can do about it.
mircea_popescu: so basically, yeah bla bla, miners can force "either doublepay or never pay" dilemma, but ~not on everyone~. only on derps who, like mp, actually publish the whole story.
mircea_popescu: listen kakobrekla can we modify the way bitbet works to actually satisfy this ? something like
mircea_popescu: say paid out bets are published as now, but proposed bets only show first 4 chars of the address, and only first two digits of the payment. except if under 0.01 it's just replaced with D
mircea_popescu: and yes, publish a sha of the whole list as-is somewhere on page also. so people can then verify at tyhe end.
mircea_popescu: as the commenter says, this does nothing for bitcoin, merely for bitbet.
mircea_popescu: of course large payments remain a problem - not so many double digit btc moving around to an address with the following 4 chars.
mircea_popescu: as usual - centralist power is the enemy of free commerce.
mircea_popescu: who knew how fucking deep in the rules of the world this principle is baked
kakobrekla: i find the comment from 'sturle' much more interesting.
mircea_popescu: no argument that it ~could~ be a so and so node. all sorts of things could be all sorts of other things. like the moon landing photos could be fake, and so on.
mircea_popescu: you have enough trust, whenever you want to speak here you should pm assbot "!up" and decrypt the dpaste.
kakobrekla: i asked him to join to answer the questions from qntra
kakobrekla: >If you are proposing that you are actually running a node which keeps all 0-fee txn for a week plus, I very much would like to know what machine are you running, and when's the last time you realised what an incredible DoS mechanism this is.
sturles: I don't keep them all. Only the ones with the highest priority.-
sturles: I don't have a time limit.
sturles: Transactions are evicted by fee or priority alone.
sturles: It doesn't matter if A2 has higher or lower priority than A1. As long as A1 is in my mempool, a tx spending any of A1's inputs will be rejected.
mircea_popescu: sturles if you keep 0fee txn without time limit, you are necessarily running on a machine with infinite ram.
sturles: Right now my mempool has: "mempoolminpriority": 142186611.6926576,
sturles: Which means that every tx with priority below 142186611.6926576 will be thrown out of the priority pool, and into the fee based pool.
sturles: Standard priority calculations. size of input * age of input for all inputs, then divided by the size of the transaction.
mircea_popescu: right. by this calculation, the tx in question would not have remained in your pool.
mircea_popescu: if you recall kakobrekla at the time it was merely broadcast and "not yet included" (in the public version of the blockchain), it had a very low priority.
sturles: 0 fee tx are thrown out if the priority is lower than what is required. Currently 142186611.6926576.
sturles: OK. I don't know anything about the tx in question. How old were the inputs?
sturles: Size in BTC is in satishi. Age in number of confirmations.
kakobrekla: txid de9bc173174f5ae97e7fe0d2e171647cade189c76f9cbe48f37494c973aca2e4
sturles: priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age)/size_in_bytes
kakobrekla: and just sum the discrete inputs ages ?
sturles: The transaction has one 3 month old input of 15.898 BTC. This alone may be enough to push the priority high enough.
kakobrekla: anyway, sturles is giving us his current mempoolminpriority, which doesnt mean it was the same a week ago.
mircea_popescu: yeah but for practical reasons doesn't also vary too much, or you get drowned.
mircea_popescu: in any case, at the time this was discussed in the logs, the miner priority was in the 9th decile, about 16% of the global mempool.
☟︎ sturles: Mu mempool is 1 GB with 300MB reserved for high priority..
mircea_popescu: (obviously because no protocol there is no actual definition of "mempool size" other than rough consensus, but wehartevers)
mircea_popescu: yeah, mempool is low now for some reason, across the board.
sturles: There was a spam attack, which stopped.
mircea_popescu: for the curious, mempool was as high as 80mb during february, but recently it's ~8 or so.
sturles: Where is this number from? Mine is:
mircea_popescu: sturles from my own nodes' estimation of what the "mempool" is currently.
mircea_popescu: built on the basis of what other nodes advertise as txn
mircea_popescu: check that out, "TradeBlock serves financial institutions with execution and analysis tools that capitalize on the potential of blockchain technologies."
sturles: By default Bitcoin Core will evict transactions which has been in the mempool for more than three days. A bad idea, because those will just come back from a node which had the transaction for less than three days, but since transactions paying a fee lower than the -minrelayfee threshold are throttled most low and 0-fee transactions will be kept out for most of the time. I'm sure there are an infinite amount of them..
☟︎ sturles: Back in 2010 there was no eviction in place. Valid transactions stayed in the mempool until mined. Various eviction strategies have been tried for the last couple of years.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall when this "3 day" thing got introduced, but longer than coupla years ago i think.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're curious, what trb is contemplating to eventually do is a ring buffer with a per-kb fee only as the criteria.
sturles: 0.12 does eviction based on fee/kB. When the mempool is full, a large share (half?) of the transaction will get evicted and a minimum fee ratio to get included will be set.
☟︎☟︎ sturles: There is no priority included in the calculations for mempool eviction in 0.12.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 16:44:12; sturles: 0.12 does eviction based on fee/kB. When the mempool is full, a large share (half?) of the transaction will get evicted and a minimum fee ratio to get included will be set.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 16:44:42; mircea_popescu: yea, but none of the elegance of a ring buffer
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 16:46:21; mircea_popescu: i mean i just said, i'd take 5k for cash right now.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 16:34:37; sturles: By default Bitcoin Core will evict transactions which has been in the mempool for more than three days. A bad idea, because those will just come back from a node which had the transaction for less than three days, but since transactions paying a fee lower than the -minrelayfee threshold are throttled most low and 0-fee transactions will be kept out for most of the time. I'm sure there are an infinite amou
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shush you, it's not supposed to make algebra-2-sense. it's from the statistics-and-citizensheep textbook.
mircea_popescu: somehow, the fact that any system trying to "include everyone" necessarily excludes the best and brightest is never a concern.
mircea_popescu: da fuck is with these idiots. "oh, there's fewer of those" o ya ? guess what - there's fewer of niggers and jews, also.
mircea_popescu: i claim no ownership interest in the notion. it's so outrageous a tree somewhere in the forest prolly said somethingat some point.
mircea_popescu: i will have the harem hum your nick during sex for a week in recognition.
mircea_popescu: so rather than a preliminary it's actually the thing ?
sturles: asciilifeform: Because it takes some time to do it for large mempools, I suppose. I think child fees are taken into account as well, but not sure about that.
sturles: My gmail key is signing only. Not useable for encryption. Made it just for #bitcoin-otc.
mircea_popescu: sturles that's kind-of a problem then, you can't voice here.
sturles: asciilifeform: getrawmempool true reports for every transaction: descendantcount, descendantsize and descendantfees, indicating that it at least knows about it.
mircea_popescu: apparently his wot key is defective, can't decrypt assbot pad
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 16:44:12; sturles: 0.12 does eviction based on fee/kB. When the mempool is full, a large share (half?) of the transaction will get evicted and a minimum fee ratio to get included will be set.
sturles: I should change my key in #bitcoin-otc to the sturle@bitmynt.no key..
sturles: It knows about the fee rate of the children of unconfirmed transactions.
sturles: Helps for child-pays-for-parent in mining.
mircea_popescu: fucking evil bs, child pays for parent, let's invent OTHER ways to import meaningless state into bitcoin and fuck it all up
sturles: If a transaction pays too low fees to get included, and you spend an output of the transaction with a high fee, a miner may want to mine both.
sturles: People spend unconfirmed outputs all the time. Bitcoin Core even does it by itself, if the output was generated by yourself.
sturles: We are not talking about orphans here, since we have the parent in the mempool.
mircea_popescu: this argument has some merit, but it's really contrary to bitcoin.
sturles: Well, you may call it a fetus. A miner can choose to give birth to both in the same block.
mircea_popescu: yeah, a miner might choose to do all sorts of patently idiotic shit.
sturles: It is in the design. As long as the order is correct (perent before child in the block), it is accepted.
sturles: Yes. It isn't verey complicated. Really. As long as A is found before B in the blockchain, the order is AB. Even if A and B are in the same block.
sturles: I am not saying it is the right way to do it, just that it is how it is.
mircea_popescu: there's no way to write a sane specification for bitcoin that avoids saying specifically "if input tx is not found in a block, tx is invalid"
mircea_popescu: yeah, some noncompliant miners are currently doing this, among many other insanities they do.
mircea_popescu: no argument there. but it is not ok merely because some idiots do it atm.
sturles: It isn't that complex. The uxto set is updated as the block is parsed. The inputs of the sibling will be in the utxo set when it gets to it. It only makes some optimizations somewhat harder.
sturles: Yes, and I don't think this is much more complex than requiring each utxo to be in a different block than the one it is spent from.
sturles: No, the order must be strict. I.e. the the parent must be confirmed _before_ the sibling.
sturles: If the sibling is _after_ the parent in the block, the block is invalid.
sturles: I use normal rules for relaying transactions.
sturles: I haven't looked closely at the code. My node behaves like any other node would. Except it keeps a part of the mempool protected from fee based eviction based on priority.
trinque: (nobody cancelled dmix!!!111!!!)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> what does this mean ? << that he's using prb and never looked inside for sheer horror
mircea_popescu: it's what it usually means when someone says they're using "normal" anything in bitcoin
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pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-03-2016#1420808 << i took in the alberta ballet's nutcracker in december, which is the local company. there were no more than 3 of the cast who could actually dance. the rest were trying to 'fake it till you make it', which drove me up the wall, particularly when the mouth-breathing audience took it upon themselves to give the sorry lot a standing o.
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 07:09:35; phf: "experimental" forms to compensate for lack of rigour.
pete_dushenski: made me long to see a real ballet. i think i'll wait until the royal winnipeg is in town next.
trinque: the ones that take it seriously are *jacked*
pete_dushenski used to dance ! lifts were a pubescent boy's dream cum true.
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-03-2016#1420812 << hahaha i had this exact same debate with fillie at guggenheim bilbao over serra's 'the matter of time'. she fucking hated it, i defended it, but probably to play foil as much as anything. this was a few years ago however, though i do still see his works once or twice a year in toronto's pearson airport ('tilted spheres'). i will grant them their ability to bre
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 08:53:24; ben_vulpes: and i don't want any more fucking scultors enough people already look at sera and say "oh herp derp i can make shapes with plate steel"
pete_dushenski: as ever, he with the gold calls the shots as to 'what is art'
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 15:58:36; asciilifeform: and say they blacklist anything previously appearing as payout on bb.
pete_dushenski: granted that it's a bit of a pain, and also granting that it's hardly a scalable solution, it does do the trick.
pete_dushenski: this doesn't improve bitbet's position, nor its aims for transparency, but normally transacting users who previously received 'tainted' coins do have recourse.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 13:12:31; asciilifeform: 'You think Bitbet benefits from the open display of bets and payouts? Fine! Publish them for paid-out bets. Publish a shortened version for active bets, first few digits of the amount, a fragment of the address… publish hashes of the whole data, deedbot them, anything you'd like. Why publish the whole thing, plain text, all the time? What did you imagine would come out of that rabid, unthinking tran
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:15:42; ascii_field: Chillum: the entire exercise is what i call a 'bear suit'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00056675 = 13.3753 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << BingoBoingo if that was you, and it was, you linked to an article of mine that said nothing re: miners... << Known, but gotta get people reading because lord knows /. story approvers don't
ben_vulpes: this conflict is rooted in the addr reuse thread.
ben_vulpes: while "there's nothing wrong with addr reuse" made sense once upon a time, the new regime is that "tell people where you're sleeping, and they'll come murder you there".
☟︎ ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: thoughts on the x60 vs x61?
punkman: ben_vulpes: iirc x61 doesn't libreboot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00056611 = 8.0388 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 04:23:06; asciilifeform: libreboot just sort of runs it at mid-rpm at all times.
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 16:55:32; asciilifeform: so at this point i'm satisfied that rms either 1) does not actually use an x60 machine with 'libreboot' ~~or~~ does not program.
gernika: I finally have a fully synced trb node, after starting on the project almost a year ago.
pete_dushenski: you persevered where many didn't, which is really the only way to live.
gernika: and if anyone is curious what took me so long - catastrophic hard disk failure, among other things.
shinohai: I've had that, theft, and just yesterday a db crash. Yet I soldier on.
trinque: shinohai: home/car/other ?
shinohai: trinque: home, someone busted in my the side door to my home office, got a lappy and a few trivial items.
shinohai: No big deal besides the lost work, thankfully the airgapped computer with my gpg keys was in my bedroom at the time.
shinohai: I hope they booted into Arch and were like "dafuq did I just steal?"
trinque: heh, that's what I imagine the fucks that stole my 4U doing.
trinque: "This space heater sucks!11!1!"
shinohai: I read that this morning danielpbarron - nice!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.00056751 = 18.8981 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: not sure why that happened.
trinque: felipelalli: I'll look in a bit and fix whatever's stopping that and put it through for you.
felipelalli: trinque, thank you very much. I guess is something related with UTF-8 again because in my browser I had to manually set to UTF-8 encoding when ?raw=true
felipelalli: the header is "Content-Type:text/plain" but could be "Content-Type:text/plain?charset=utf-8"
deedbot-: imported: 9E08524833CB3038FDE385C54C0AFCCFED5CDE14
pete_dushenski: "appliance business have become public knowledge twice before." << this parse funny to anyone else ?
pete_dushenski: "Following that last year "Justice" Department regulators refused permission to Swedish firm Electrolux's efforts to unburden General Electric of this line of business by acquiring it for 3.3 billion" << idem.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00056611 = 22.1915 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: punctuation helps break up thoughts and controls reader flow
cazalla: how's the bubs pete_dushenski ?
pete_dushenski: cazalla: just splendid. we're in the sweet spot where he's sleeping well, eating well, can't crawl, and isn't teething :)
cazalla: i'm at the stage where i'm now singing and dancing to wiggles songs at 6am
cazalla: walking around with kids songs lyrics in muh head
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Also added picture I left out
cazalla: BingoBoingo, qntra down? down here
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Seems up, we don't really get ddos'd as much