BingoBoingo: !up raedah
BingoBoingo: !up nubbins`
BingoBoingo: Studious ignoring continues https://archive.is/wDJfV
assbot: Silk Road 2.0 Case Confirms FBI And CMU Tor Attack Collaboration : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz4nJ4 )
mircea_popescu: aww
mircea_popescu: hey DreadKnight am i gonna see you in eulora at some point ?
mircea_popescu: "Among other items, the
mircea_popescu: government’s disclosures included information regarding the funding and structure
mircea_popescu: relationship between SEI and DOD, as well as directing the defendant to publicly
mircea_popescu: available materials regarding the Tor network."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21473 @ 0.00057787 = 12.4086 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "In Forrester, the court clearly enunciated that: “Internet users have no expectation of privacy in …the IP address of the websites they visit because they should know that this information is provided to and used by Internet service providers for the specific purpose of directing the routing of information." <<< except the ip of the "website they used" has exactly nothing to do with anything.
mircea_popescu: what is this guy, a shoe ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30827 @ 0.00057808 = 17.8205 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Again, according to the parties’ submissions, such a submission is made despite the understanding communicated by the Tor Project that the Tor network has vulnerabilities and that users might not remain anonymous." o oops, forgot to say "according to information first, and to date only published on trilema, [...]".
mircea_popescu: decent lulz.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Obama's librarian of congress pick is pro hobo piss https://archive.is/3nF0j
assbot: Access Agenda for All Libraries | Offices of the American Library Association ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qfs6Cs )
BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW_
mod6: good evening
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ? << In relation to the contest? I'm good with Cramer-Shoup.
mircea_popescu: the idea being that i announced a contest, haven't seen much in the way of submissions, ima award the 10 btc prize to alf for an implementation of a c-s derivative.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to not do this too rushedly, but also to not delay pointlessly.
mod6: Right.
mod6: I'm kinda torn, I want us to move forward with 'g', so Cramer-Shoup fits the bill for sure. On the other hand, I'd like to think that over a long interval we might see some interesting submissions eventually.
mircea_popescu: how long has it been anyway, a month yet ?
mod6: no, not even. posted feb 4th.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00057281 = 4.697 BTC [-]
mod6: Perhaps this: Implement with Cramer-Shoup, and if the implementation is finalized before any worthy submissions come to us, then end the contest and pay the btc to alf?
mod6: That way we don't wait, but we don't slam the door yet either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how dja feel about waiting till march 4th ?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414888 << capsule today, rsa pill tomorrow☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 23:04:27; *: asciilifeform pictures pete_dushenski's postman grunting forth a capsule, with letter
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414933 << can turn of heat to unit via thermostat, but if pipes freeze (in arctic at least), owner liable for damage to other units from flooding if pipes burst☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 23:18:55; mircea_popescu: "also i want to turn off central heating, your prices suck" "uhh wut ?" "my title!!!"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski gotta appreciate, most of these soviet arrangements were built atop "free" waste heat from the heavy industrial plants the dormitory- cities were made to feed anyway.
mircea_popescu: once that went away, "city" took over heat generation. except it's impossible to run a thing made to WASTE HEAT efficiently
mircea_popescu: so people weren't too keen to pay the city when there were cheap gas based wall units they could install instead.
mircea_popescu: these wars raged for decade+
pete_dushenski: aha. parents' penthouse has no heating, just waste heat from 19 stories underneath. this is 'innovative' in the usual soviet sense i guess.
pete_dushenski: only turn on fireplaces at -20c. otherwise, no need.
pete_dushenski: http://www.prairiedesignawards.com/images/2012_sp_newcambridge_1.jpg << multicoloured cube in question.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1VFvgj8 )
BingoBoingo: Beef Up lol
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/Moidh5E.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1VFvmXY )
pete_dushenski: hahaha
BingoBoingo: appologies for spurious IP address, was in the spam filter feed tube
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1415005 << probably limited time offer. land developers are in a nasty habit of this atm. i've even seen "we guarantee that you'll be able to rent out your new suite for $1500 per month for the first 2 years. buy now!" in an attempt to sucker in would-be first-time landlords☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 23:40:41; BingoBoingo: Most of the ads I've seen bundle water/sewer into the condo fee, but may be a regional quirk
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nah, established couple decade old places, but also cheap water
pete_dushenski: ah thought this was new construction. nvm.
BingoBoingo: Nah water here almost universally tends to be metered on a per building basis
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Obese Argentine Manatee and other tales of bloody vaginal discharge. - http://trilema.com/2016/the-obese-argentine-manatee-and-other-tales-of-bloody-vaginal-discharge/
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: you gotta consider at least once, but often several times a year too much water is a problem in this region. Maybe once every 5-10 years driety is problematic.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the botero museum in bogota is mega-recommended if you're ever out exploring the rest of your continent :)
BingoBoingo: Reddit gets murried https://archive.is/XpIaY
assbot: Throw_it_all_away_99 comments on Redditors who are now married because you didn't know how to break up with your significant other, how is that going for you? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qfv61C )
mircea_popescu: with thanks to BingoBoingo for his log lulz.
BingoBoingo: you're welcome
mircea_popescu: also http://45.media.tumblr.com/c264906e47af207e7f2e78f841af15a3/tumblr_nnljr8Xw1W1rl9p9mo1_500.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QfvVYp )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415038 << i suggest that it is done 1) no earlier than 4th 2) no earlier than working cramershouptron is posted 5) paid not to my earthly carcass but to snsa piggy - under whose flag it will be published.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 00:39:29; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how dja feel about waiting till march 4th ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: and i would secretly love to be proven wrong, and for an actual cryptographer to exist, and show up, flying on jet pack, and show a scientifically-founded blockcipher for us.
asciilifeform: but i do not expect this.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415029 << i am actually very ambivalent about recommending an integer field arithm cipher for use as block cipher on a conventional pc. for one thing, we will have transfer rates measured in kb/sec (if we're lucky.) for another, extreme side channel danger, because we're branching-on-secrets. for a third, entropy starvation.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 00:29:59; mircea_popescu: the idea being that i announced a contest, haven't seen much in the way of submissions, ima award the 10 btc prize to alf for an implementation of a c-s derivative.
asciilifeform: i will do it, but strictly because i do not presently perceive an alternative to exist.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415052 << l0l, looks like classic nazi polizei from caricatures☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 00:46:24; BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/Moidh5E.jpg
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415044 << over here, they run, e.g., university campus heat, off the exhaust of (natural gas) electric turbine.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 00:43:43; mircea_popescu: once that went away, "city" took over heat generation. except it's impossible to run a thing made to WASTE HEAT efficiently
asciilifeform: 'ah the delicate je ne se quoi pizda ma-tii of a French newspaper' << ahahahaha
asciilifeform falls down
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00057849 = 8.3013 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2015/12/09/620202-finlyandiya-550-evro << finland 'plans to pay all adult citizens 550 eu. independently of all other income; the sum will not be taxed. in return, the finns will have to disclaim all other government benefits, which add up, on average, to 600 eu., but no greater than 1500' (????) 'the government will ... consider this idea in nov. 2016 ... ... right now, it is unprofi
assbot: ВЕДОМОСТИ - Финляндия может начать выплачивать всем взрослым гражданам 550 евро в месяц ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvTgPK )
asciilifeform: table for many finns to take up temporary and low-paying work ...' etc etc
asciilifeform: ^ related to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-02-2016#1413495 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 08:51:15; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski ought to have opened up his rental business in fi !
asciilifeform: where soon landlords will be able to raise all rents by 550 eu...
asciilifeform: in other noose,
asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2016/02/usg-apple-012-014.pdf << usg expels crapple's atty. on a technicality
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al ^
mod6: trinque: hey, when you get a chance, can you deed bot this for me? http://www.mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh for me with the same name?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1mOPSt7 )
asciilifeform: in really not-newz,
mod6: thanks in advance.
asciilifeform: 'US troops often demonstrated poor litter discipline, discarding all manner of trash, damaged gear and clothing, expended batteries, and more. Much of this was of use to the VC, and they would collect such materials after a unit moved on.'
asciilifeform: (from 'vietname infantry tactics', l. rottman, osprey pub. co., 2011)
asciilifeform: *vietnam
BingoBoingo: In further studious ignoring https://archive.is/srltS and https://archive.is/wBZwE
assbot: Silk Road 2.0 Case Confirms FBI And CMU Tor Attack Collaboration : DarkNetMarkets ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvVHSD )
assbot: DarkNetMarkets: A Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvVHSH )
asciilifeform: snore.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24830 @ 0.00057801 = 14.352 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 3.00000000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b88
asciilifeform: l0l virtually even again.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00057851 = 24.7024 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: 'Like other armies the Germans emplaced booby traps to catch unwary souvenir-hunters, but they also used them to cause casualties among Allied small-unit leaders by locating them in possible command post and observation post sites. One example of this was to conceal a booby trap behind a framed picture left hanging crooked on an interior wall of a house: the Germans reasoned that only an officer would be irritated enough to bo
asciilifeform: ther with straightening the picture.' -- 'ww2 axis booby traps.'
BingoBoingo: Maybe this is the Google AlphaBitBetBot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00057852 = 5.4381 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59400 @ 0.00057726 = 34.2892 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up thestringpuller
asciilifeform: hm
BingoBoingo: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00263573 / 0.0026425 / 0.00266872 (405 shares, 1.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00253517 / 0.00260204 / 0.00266872 (4083 shares, 10.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00253517 / 0.00278179 / 0.00332476 (9327 shares, 25.95 BTC)
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am confused
deedbot-: [Qntra] Software Company Shuttered By Trade Dispute - http://qntra.net/2016/02/software-company-shuttered-by-trade-dispute/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe this is the slowly stress you into an inclanation towards insanity phase of your DeHarting?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00057726 = 26.7849 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, so s.nsa makes a profit out of your proposal ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey why not...
mircea_popescu: i guess it's assignable like anything else...
mircea_popescu: aite then
asciilifeform: seems like the Right Thing.
mircea_popescu: mod6 enjoy!
BingoBoingo: S.NSA get revenue BEFORE cardano ships would be a headline
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-11-2015#1319536 << see also.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 23:34:52; asciilifeform: 'no need have i of mercy, / no need have i of laurels, / but let me have a rifle, / and let me have a horse, / and if i chance to perish, / let my red platoonmates, / let my red platoonmates,/ make'em pay, of course.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23019 @ 0.00057726 = 13.2879 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other news, french chief poof is visiting buenos aires
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/ << epic
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 37.45 B (50%) on Yes, 37.65 B (50%) on No | closing in 1 week 5 days | weight: 49`852 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1QsN9gt )
mircea_popescu: might be one of the closest bets in bitbet history
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't get it, derpy windows-based, closed source dvd copy thing ?
mircea_popescu: https://torrentfreak.com/slysoft-dvd-ripper-owner-found-guilty-in-criminal-action-140403/ related.
assbot: Slysoft DVD Ripper Owner Found Guilty in Criminal Action - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1KMoyrc )
BingoBoingo: DVD/bluDVD copy thing drew a bunch of USG aggro. Derpy thorn in copyrasta's sides but still a thorn. One of the longest running "legit" ones.
asciilifeform: who the everloving fuck ~buys~ dvdrip proggy?!
mircea_popescu: no idea.
BingoBoingo: Kim Dotcom sorta situation where until appeals go through it persisted, but suddenly collapsed before appeal
BingoBoingo: Who used megaupload? derps
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415122 << ah, if only BingoBoingo knew...☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:06:29; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe this is the slowly stress you into an inclanation towards insanity phase of your DeHarting?
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks Sir. :]
mircea_popescu: “[The Antiguan legal victory] gives us a concrete decision to take to others who facilitate SlySoft and their business. We can say to those who do business with them: ‘This is an illegal activity’,” AACS’s lawyer added.
asciilifeform went deep behind the lines yesterday
mircea_popescu: more\s the case - the endless list of us derpage gives us a list of concrete violations to take to those who facilitate the activities of the international crime syndicate. we can say to these people : the us is a rogue state. you further their conspiracies at your personal risk.
asciilifeform: wtf even happens in antigua other than spamcorp registration..?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, never been there.
asciilifeform: afaik it is sorta like, e.g., tokelau
asciilifeform: exists solely for spam.
asciilifeform: otherwise would appear on no map.
mod6: jurov: test worked with just a regular clearsigned message.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00057389 = 3.2425 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and in even more other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/173588322d445d2b59ce0572a36c6298/tumblr_nhqf0lTVs81sfkfqio1_500.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KMr5S3 )
asciilifeform: moooo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6010 @ 0.0005718 = 3.4365 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10990 @ 0.00056931 = 6.2567 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00057389 = 22.726 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35670 @ 0.00056931 = 20.3073 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up okcupidslut
mod6: !up ben_vulpes
BingoBoingo: !up okcupidslut
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42111 @ 0.00057857 = 24.3642 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415142 << there is no open-source equivalent. last time I checked.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:34:48; asciilifeform: who the everloving fuck ~buys~ dvdrip proggy?!
punkman: it handled all kinds of DRM and related crapolade
BingoBoingo: !up Chicago
punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD%2B
assbot: BD+ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OwhCJk )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73525 @ 0.00057861 = 42.5423 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40225 @ 0.00057867 = 23.277 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: no open-source alternatives, and from a quick search, seems like no proprietary alternatives either, unless you only need a subset of the functionality.
punkman: disc pirates can only get around some DRM schemes by finding discs that don't have it.
punkman: maybe S.NSA should sell AlfDVD sometime in the future ;)
punkman: I'd also buy shares in S.SLY if it was a thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21072 @ 0.00057016 = 12.0144 BTC [-]
punkman: BingoBoingo: http://blog.kraken.com/post/139514011237/kraken-announces-significant-progress-in-mtgox
assbot: Kraken Bitcoin Exchange — Kraken Announces Significant Progress In MtGox... ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rph9x2 )
punkman: oh wait that was last week
ben_vulpes: > 24,733 people around the world have filed bankruptcy claims related to the MtGox exchange
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.35053338 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b116
BingoBoingo: punkman: Also they stole hanbot's pirateat40 joke for their exchange name
ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
punkman: http://www.inbali.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/A-girls-school-in-1941.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3Qbdisz.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UmwaT8 )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UmwaTa )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.0005721 = 15.8472 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << i am categorically unqualified to opine on this☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 19:50:12; mircea_popescu: well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ?
ben_vulpes: why ask a yoke-fly anything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7128 @ 0.00057541 = 4.1015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50672 @ 0.00057869 = 29.3234 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00100000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b90
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10817 @ 0.00057869 = 6.2597 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13433 @ 0.00057883 = 7.7754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47025 @ 0.00057301 = 26.9458 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15791 @ 0.00057207 = 9.0336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3275 @ 0.00057277 = 1.8758 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00057887 = 21.5919 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo upping all the sluts
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> punkman: Also they stole hanbot's pirateat40 joke for their exchange name << 24`733 people around the world tried to run off with shit and it still didn't work for them.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i am categorically unqualified to opine on this << wasn't a matter of cryptography, merely of you know, "what's reasonable management of contest"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415190 << you know, back when bali was actually a thing, and actually worth going to. as opposed to "yet another ustard strip mall", which... seriously who the fuck wants to go tourist in those ? and if they wanted to, why not just go to disneyworld and be done with it.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 07:33:20; punkman: http://www.inbali.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/A-girls-school-in-1941.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3Qbdisz.jpg
shinohai: "The mircea_popescu school for third-world sluts"
mircea_popescu: more like japanese basic literacy school for islanders.
mircea_popescu: note however the incidence of decent boobs in the population. out of 8 visible, 3 or 4 are miserable, 3 or 4 are acceptable, 2 or 3 pretty good actually.
mircea_popescu: i call this the mp rule of tit thirds.
mircea_popescu: and we know for a fact that the tits ~were~ a major factor in the academic performance of these girls, because the better boobs (with maybe one exception) agglomerate at the front and between the teachers.
mircea_popescu: the temptation to presume this somehow invalidates the curriculum and teachers' approach however is not necessarily warranted. it may be that women with better tits are simply better women overall, which includes both an ability and an interest in learning.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415174 . << cracking the disk crypto is 'plugging the wrong end of the funnel'. the hdmi copyprptection key leaked eons ago, just pick the frames up on the other end of the tv cable, emitted by an official player!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 06:31:39; punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD%2B
mircea_popescu: nevertheless fun.
asciilifeform not an aficionado of ultra-highres fi
asciilifeform: lm
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415216 << 'big-G' (or 'generalized fitness factor') hypothesis☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 12:46:13; mircea_popescu: the temptation to presume this somehow invalidates the curriculum and teachers' approach however is not necessarily warranted. it may be that women with better tits are simply better women overall, which includes both an ability and an interest in learning.
asciilifeform: pretty sure we had the thread
asciilifeform: with, e.g., myelin.
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: 'how ~little~ sand in the developmental gears'
mircea_popescu: it's not too hard to discover that small tits and annoying, nagging, deeply insecure personality correlate quite well in practice, and so the historical male preference for big tits that actually drove the monstrous mamomegalia that principally distinguishes us from monkeys could well be rather explainable.
mircea_popescu: (and yes - it's not "the ability to communicate", as early darwinists thought, out of their inclination towards pious frauds to favour socialism, that distinguishes us from animals. nor is it "an ability to make and use tools", as the 50s folk retreated to in desperation. no, none of that - just this, that our females have tits so deeply disproportionate to their bodies it is unseen in nature. CIVILISATION!)
asciilifeform: possibly reversed causation here
mircea_popescu: obviously.
mircea_popescu: but the fact remains that if i am examining the photo data from foreign planet with life on it,
mircea_popescu: ima try to identify the mammaries and pick the species with the largest ones as a candidate for intelligence.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29240 @ 0.00057547 = 16.8267 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: (this, for any deeply insecure personalities that may be reading the logs, does neither say that big is good thus therefore bigger is necessarily better, nor does it propose that there can't be a "big enough". so simmer down.)
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: with great power&fame comes great responsibility, eh.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415217 this is a poor approximation of decrypting the disk. doesn't it mean capture time equals video length? what about alt audio tracks, subtitles, etc? Perhaps inconsequential, but things like Cinavia would persist in captured video.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 12:54:31; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415174 . << cracking the disk crypto is 'plugging the wrong end of the funnel'. the hdmi copyprptection key leaked eons ago, just pick the frames up on the other end of the tv cable, emitted by an official player!
asciilifeform: so?
asciilifeform: how many times it is done ?
asciilifeform: 1 per disk
mircea_popescu: lulzy bullshit a la cinavia is trivially defeated if you care to, irrespective of how the material was obtained.
mircea_popescu: and if you don't care to, well... you didn't care to.
mircea_popescu: (prolly not worth caring to, afaik the only utility of "NN"/"AI" image recognition to date is to recognize films)
asciilifeform: and why even
mircea_popescu: ikr?
asciilifeform: don't buy the boobytrapped player
asciilifeform: problem solved.
mircea_popescu: even better : don't use any electronics with closed bullshit. what, can't play on computor ?
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: and, as i said, capture the frames.
mircea_popescu: i've never bought any of the non-computing computer crap since the fucking 90s. which includes no fucking playstation, no "analog video camera" no bs.
punkman: sure, I don't watch dvds or blu-rays. but you were asking who would buy these things
mircea_popescu: (and yes, my despise of laptops and crapple-ade is well grounded in this strategic choice made 25 years ago. if it is not programmable i am not buying it!)
mircea_popescu: punkman he was ? who the fuck cares about the consumer here that i may negrate him!
mircea_popescu: fucking heresy.
asciilifeform: i still don't get why i oughta care about megahighres film disk.
asciilifeform: other than to help sink the enemy.
mircea_popescu: !s 700mb
assbot: 4 results for '700mb' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=700mb
punkman: no reason you should care. but people that buy these disks cared about anydvd.
punkman: nah fuck fixed size and constant bitrate
mircea_popescu: seriously, if you can't paint a canvas within 10x10, or if you can't tell your story in 700mb, you've got other problems than painting or making movies.
asciilifeform: idk, 17 moments of spring
punkman: I've started downloading x265 releases when I can find them, they are pretty great
asciilifeform: was mega-film
mircea_popescu: punkman do you actually watch these or just collect them ?
asciilifeform: but it works fine on a pile of 700m disks
punkman: jus the things I watch
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly.
asciilifeform: 1 per episode
mircea_popescu: also seinfeld is like 300 hours or some shit.
mircea_popescu: but, tv format, who cares, you can push it into one cd per season.
mircea_popescu: that's the other thing you know, every other derp here that i ever visit has bought a huge tv, oft times at a cost that compares to that of his car.
punkman: on the hdmi/hdcp side: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/warner-bros-sues-hd-fury-over-boxes-that-can-copy-4k-video/
assbot: Warner Bros. sues “HD Fury” over boxes that can copy 4k video | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAMj6C )
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mircea_popescu: and on it... they watch dumbass 2nd hand us sitcoms and mexican tv productions.
asciilifeform: this always melted my brain.
mircea_popescu: TOTALLY worth seeing random schmuck doing nothing in 7k px
punkman: I'm fine with 720p or less
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i think it's nest building. dudes have discovered that the way to attract washed up ex-whores in family mode is to fill the fridge and mega-tv-couch arrangement.
asciilifeform: l0l!
mircea_popescu: WHY thefuck would someone WANT one of these is beyond the scope of this article, or my capacity to reason.
asciilifeform: same reason folks eat from garbage bin?
asciilifeform: no alternative?
mircea_popescu: but more than on one occasion i could tell the 30-something year old's past by my own cinavia, and the situation was pretty much exactly "i brought her up here after the first date and basically - she never left"
punkman: heh
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415277 << waiWUT - ~chinese~ hw maker killed by us copyrasts?!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:24:10; punkman: on the hdmi/hdcp side: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/warner-bros-sues-hd-fury-over-boxes-that-can-copy-4k-video/
asciilifeform: how?
punkman: seems alive and selling
asciilifeform: hm site must've been 'slashdotted' at time of article then
asciilifeform: at any rate it is not hard to make a box like this
asciilifeform: take an official lcd tv, attach fpga where the panel ribbon cable was.
asciilifeform: instant decoder.
asciilifeform: works on any idiot copyprotection thing.
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punkman: hardcoded subs suck
mircea_popescu: now that is true
punkman: "run it twice and diff"
punkman: there are also licensed software players, that route might be easier
asciilifeform: i cite the cable method as a kind of final solution.
asciilifeform: the final muzzle to put in enemy's mouth.
asciilifeform: i don't even care for modern american film.
asciilifeform: but hollywood copyrasty - must die.
asciilifeform: it is necessary for the usg burial.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28162 @ 0.00057547 = 16.2064 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: funny, kinda related to the article im cooking.
jurov: will s.nsa develop and sell them?
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea really.
jurov: but not while the chief engineer is usg subject, i guess
mircea_popescu: the usg has no authority to have subjects.
jurov: ok, ftfy: but not while the chief engineer thinks himself usg subject, i guess
mircea_popescu: possibru not yeh
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shinohai: https://redd.it/47g89e <<< /me has a feeling this isn't going to end well.
assbot: Next evolution in Bitcoin security: Hardware wallet right in your phone! : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1TGQkYB )
mircea_popescu: shinohai mind using direct links rather than that crap ?
mircea_popescu: in lulzy "theymos' discreet criminal entreprise" news, https://archive.is/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.msg854918%23msg854918
assbot: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.msg854918#msg854918: Bitcoin Savings and Trust | Home | Closed ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q47go6 )
mircea_popescu: notice how the mpoe-pr blowing the cover off pirate is on page 41 in 2013, around the middle, but on page 40 right at the top in 2015 ?
mircea_popescu: some people didn't really want to have said what they did in fact say back in 2012! awww!
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deedbot-: [Trilema] The Most Serene Republic's list of rogue states, unrecognized goverments and criminal syndicates - http://trilema.com/2016/the-most-serene-republics-list-of-rogue-states-unrecognized-goverments-and-criminal-syndicates/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415312 << wai wut☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 14:35:43; jurov: will s.nsa develop and sell them?
asciilifeform: sell what ?
jurov: the boxes discussed 3 lines above it
asciilifeform: didn't punkman link to chinese co. already happily selling ?
asciilifeform: go, buy.
asciilifeform: these aren't cryptoinstruments, parachutes that one lives and dies by.
asciilifeform: buy from lowest bidder.
asciilifeform: it is exactly the kind of item the chinese excell at, and attempting to compete with them on the field would be moronic.
asciilifeform: i won't make tv either.
jurov: i don't see where, you mean the "hd fury" box?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: i ~could~ see an argument for airdropping such thing behind nazi lines
asciilifeform: but this is an idea for ~rich folks~
asciilifeform: and i'm not rich.
asciilifeform: and in any case i'd airdrop radio relays
mircea_popescu: it's unclear that giving away coca-cola for free specifically hurts the thing coca-cola is a head of.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, as usual, nails it.
mircea_popescu: in older news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/19321a9d35e17a2a8cc4f682ffcd3f2e/tumblr_nmk27wLQJs1s5o46so1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QgeXcr )
mircea_popescu: >Existing users, beginning January 1st 2016 you will need to complete a brief installation of a local service in order to continue using this API. Please follow the installation instructions below.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin.info tries to hijack everyone's servers by having them run some closed source item.
kakobrekla: afaik its open.
mircea_popescu: "open". everything's "open".
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415348 << wut?!!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 16:12:56; mircea_popescu: >Existing users, beginning January 1st 2016 you will need to complete a brief installation of a local service in order to continue using this API. Please follow the installation instructions below.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i only vaguely track the vctardation.
asciilifeform: anybody got a sample of the binary?
kakobrekla: its a nodejs thing. https://github.com/blockchain/service-my-wallet-v3
asciilifeform: ick
mircea_popescu: nono, it's open see alf ?
mircea_popescu: open like in openssl, but hey.
asciilifeform can't bring himself to care
asciilifeform: open sores.
kakobrekla: i didnt say 'what' is open. could as well be the doors.
mircea_popescu: and windows!
mircea_popescu: "The top games on mobile in 2015 are the same games that were at the top of the charts in 2012" << if that pond ain't dead...
mircea_popescu: gaming being 32% of time spent on mobiles in 2014, 15% in 2015.
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415319 << lulzy how the nsa turd in arm cpu catches on with the derps, but wintel 'tpm' didn't☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 14:52:22; shinohai: https://redd.it/47g89e <<< /me has a feeling this isn't going to end well.
asciilifeform: even though quite similar.
phf: https://github.com/sabotage-linux/netbsd-curses a port of netbsd curses targeting musl/linux. we don't really uses anything with curses directly, but for cli interface building, or balinux, a codebase to keep in mind.
assbot: GitHub - sabotage-linux/netbsd-curses: libcurses and dependencies taken from netbsd and brought into a portable (at least to musl) shape ... ( http://bit.ly/1QAhUAm )
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, 'pogo4' is back on crapazon, $18
asciilifeform: phf: neato
asciilifeform: potentially useful.
asciilifeform: i wish i had time to test this.
phf: it's a bit down the pipeline for me. there were some attempts to make cmucl go entirely syscall, but as it stands it's probably 40% there. i want to link it to musl first, and then play around with control interfaces uses curses/cl-charm, which is when i'll test out this thing
asciilifeform: tell me again what the point of cmucl is, when there is sbcl
asciilifeform: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1207.2/02579.html << vintage lol
assbot: Linux-Kernel Archive: [PATCH] MPILIB: Provide count_leading/trailing_zeros() based on archfunctions ... ( http://bit.ly/1TB8sBW )
trinque: in semi-related news, sbcl passes its test suite using --with-sb-thread on openbsd
trinque: when I get around to it I'm going to pester the port maintainer to get a flavor going for that
mircea_popescu: nb
phf: i kind of look at it like version 0.5.3. there's barely any development on it, very little actively harmful code, if you don't count asdf 3.* in contribs. it works, it can be studied and improved upon, as it stands it's utterly ignored by the cool kids. there are also of course technical merits, the compiler is conceptually identical and on average almost as good (there were many micro optimizations done by sbcl team, but even they are
phf: tradeoffs) and much better for floating. there's still a tightly integrated interpreter (i heard sbcl brought that back in recent releases), so doing eval even on early 2000s machines is almost instantaneous for repl work. memory usage is much much better (pretty sure sbcl core policy is "memory is cheap")
phf: raymond toy does, almost exclusively, code cleanup, bug fixes and work on floating point code (i think he maintains fortran to lisp compiler, that i think he used to (?) make big consulting money with)
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asciilifeform: phf: does cmucl have native threads yet ?
mircea_popescu: and in other febrrrruary news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/dcab94c115ba3aa2bfd4e48ab50be0e0/tumblr_nml7moRH3t1rx7eu1o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TB9PQW )
phf: no, and while we're on downsides, unicode integration into the rest of the system is dodgy (there's a lot of assumptions in lateral code that chars are 1 byte)
mircea_popescu: phf can unicode be snipped off cleanly ?
phf: yes. in fact btcbase runs unicode-less instance
mircea_popescu: i'd personally much prefer unicode join the scrap heap with "pki", dns, ntp etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends what means 'cleanly'
asciilifeform: what happens when it gets dumped into the hopper anyway.
asciilifeform: which it will.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same as what means cleanly in medicine : is it a fistula or a bump.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as long as "unicode was sent" neatly transforms into "we received a broken string of ascii" all is well.
mircea_popescu: in other news of alfish interest, speaking of snipping off bumps : http://40.media.tumblr.com/bd76b0421433086710a7efa6a4281917/tumblr_nk18baK9hD1so15avo2_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21uc7UH )
phf: i've been mulling over that question with logs. fwiw, entire log can be kept in memory for analysis, annotation, whatever, 180mb as utf-8 byte arrays. with unicode strings takes up twice the memory on 16-bit cmucl, and ~~4 times on 32-bit sbcl. i'm not yet convinced that transcoding everything you get into string and then transcoding it back to a bytearray onto the wire is the best strategy
asciilifeform: incidentally, mircea_popescu would do well to remember that the bulk of the material worth reading accessible on the net is non-latin (specifically cyrillic!1111)
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phf: terry davis dat shit, only legitimate encoding is utf-8 :D
phf: err
phf: koi8-r
asciilifeform: l0l
phf: freudian typo alright
asciilifeform: incidentally there can be a good argument for 16bit chars.
asciilifeform: in that utf8 makes strlen an O(N) operation
asciilifeform: which is profoundly retarded.
asciilifeform: and leads to inevitable shenanigans with buffer overflows
asciilifeform: e.g., i flip a bit and now ????????
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^ what he said
mircea_popescu: also, i am not in the sliughtest against 16 bit chars.
mircea_popescu: the point is FIXED bitwidth alphabet, nothing else.
asciilifeform: 16 bit is enough to hold even kanji and other savagery.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, you can instruct your fucking display to do any rot-13 you prefer on glyphs and chars.
asciilifeform: i am also not opposed to ^
asciilifeform: was just about to say.
mircea_popescu: can have ascii-notation of cyrilic just fine
asciilifeform: 'polish' encode cyrillic, as gnarly diphthongs, etc in latin
asciilifeform: and then decode.
mircea_popescu: quite.
asciilifeform: i, like many ru folks, do this in the keyboard
asciilifeform: (the traditional ru kbd is virtually unknown among emigre folks, everybody uses 'translit' like the chinese do)
mircea_popescu: i would have been very firmly 8 bit in the old days
mircea_popescu: but today machines are 64 bit. for all i care your alphabet can be on 64 bit chars.
mircea_popescu: makes little sense, but it CAN be
mircea_popescu: (it seems perhaps a smart move to actually make it 64 bit - for one thing there will probablyt never be 128 bit machines.
asciilifeform operates a number of 32 and even 8 bit machines...
mircea_popescu: the current tech pretty much run its course, wetware or w/e comes next will prolly not do bits)
asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu catch the recent thread re: the bit-serial cpu ?
mircea_popescu: i did.
mircea_popescu: but in general speaking, the point stands anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, im not sure what the benefit from the old machines perspective is for the char to be 16 rather than 64.
mircea_popescu: you'll still going to have to do some porting. just as long as it's not 52 or some other mit-esque idiocy, should really not be a big deal.
mircea_popescu: but the fucking concept of putting a turing complete machine in the bitstream/string mapping has got to fucking burn already. who the fuck even hatched this idiocy.
mircea_popescu: forget fits in head, this doesn't even fit in ass.
asciilifeform: waiwut
asciilifeform: nobody has turing machine there
asciilifeform: we suffer from quite the opposite.
mircea_popescu: pfff.
asciilifeform: i.e. elaborately enumerated crapola.
mircea_popescu: if i take a buffer, split it up in words, and give you some and him some, and you convert them to strings and give them back, i must be able to reconsturct the original buffer without possibility of error.
mircea_popescu: fucking state in the string processor, are you kidding me ?
asciilifeform: work it through for me, when would this apply ?
mircea_popescu: how do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter when it would apply. it turns out, through bitter experience, that c machines and especially the slaves that feed them can NOT live in a world where there's not strict, table-lookup-based, equivalency between words and chars.
mircea_popescu: creatiung the complete tree of all the ways this sad tactical truth has bitten us in practice, and then defending it against broad strategic discussions is beyond sane use of time or resources.
mircea_popescu: fact remains, whenever you break this bijection you get broken stacks and broken-er "communities" around em
asciilifeform: possibly i see where mircea_popescu is going.
mircea_popescu: in other news, perhaps the definitive depiction of exceeded old woman trying to cling to a delusion of control through formalism : http://archive.li/SzW0e/b36166b3370577c75796ec355295c8e5e6166a46.jpg (naomi klein at occupy wallstreet derpage)
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21ug3Vz )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i say this with no prejudice to your fundamentally correct "stop thinking letters are numbers omfg what's wrong with you! are you greek ?! retarded ?!"
mircea_popescu: it'd work splendidly in lispnix, an alt-universe where mit still teaches computing instead of being "the premier science and technology institution in the world"
asciilifeform: i'm sorta coming to terms with the fact that the year is 800 again
asciilifeform: and we're in a monastery, trying to preserve a few tidbits, while orcs hammer on the gates.
asciilifeform: (who has seen the very colourful cartoon 'book of kells' ?)
mircea_popescu: can;'t say as i have
asciilifeform: recommended.
asciilifeform: it is a visual joy, rather than thematic
mircea_popescu: i put it on teh list.
jurov: ;;bc,blocks
gribble: {"blockcount":400005}
mircea_popescu: confirmed. cool huh. 40% of the way to the cool mil.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this should be the millionium, best festival ever.
mircea_popescu: every time blockchain counts a new million blocks.
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asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: your ip leaks.
phf: pretty easy way of preventing it, authenticate at connect, not with /msg nickserv
pete_dushenski: hm.
asciilifeform: anybody has thoughts about the Dolev-Dwork-Naor asymmetric cipher ?
asciilifeform: (it appears to be 'the other cramershoup')
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415090 << had ukrs been offered free land there a century ago and ro jews offered refuge there 50 years ago, i would've could've should've. but fi didn't, to my knowledge, do either such thing. so here we are.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 02:05:03; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski ought to have opened up his rental business in fi !
asciilifeform: ddn - 1991.
pete_dushenski: ;;ud ddn
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DDN | I woke up in a hot sweat due to a terrible DDN... It started with me being in a prison shower and dropping the soap. Did you get the new dvd of "White chicks and ...
phf: there's a great place for sauna, fi
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: Dolev-Dwork-Naor
pete_dushenski: l0l
asciilifeform: scroll up.
pete_dushenski: " Double Dick Nightmare - A nightmarish dream involving voluntary double penetration of massive cocks." << i don't care what you say, this is a much funnier ddn
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-10-2015#1299680 << oblig.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 18:03:14; ascii_field: 'Korsuissa kamina, / siellä pelataan nakkia, raminaa, / on meillä Fritzit ja Maxit / ja Petropamaxit, juu!' (tm) (r) (1941)
pete_dushenski: blockchain millenium should be sometime in 2026. we'll all be old men by then!
asciilifeform: some are old men now.
pete_dushenski: today, some, tomorrow, all.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415346 << i hope we're all this fit 'tomorrow'☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 16:04:14; mircea_popescu: in older news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/19321a9d35e17a2a8cc4f682ffcd3f2e/tumblr_nmk27wLQJs1s5o46so1_1280.jpg
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415278 << haha family friend is lead counsel for wb asia pacific, based out of hk. i actually crashed at his place last time i was in town.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:24:12; assbot: Warner Bros. sues “HD Fury” over boxes that can copy 4k video | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAMj6C )
asciilifeform: was he 'only following orderz' ?
asciilifeform: and 'has no idea' what comes out of the showerheadz?
phf: (it's zyklon b, for all those like myself who took a while)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: he's from an older generation than we are, knows what he's doing. believes in legitimacy of copyrasta wholly afaik. can't be far from retirement either, and it's awfully hard to imagine anyone bothering to hang him for his crimes.
pete_dushenski: so he was 'right place right time'
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415265 << nonsense. sistine chapel qualifies as a canvas and it's what 41x13m ?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:21:34; mircea_popescu: seriously, if you can't paint a canvas within 10x10, or if you can't tell your story in 700mb, you've got other problems than painting or making movies.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the perfect sort for hanging
asciilifeform: (truly believes, etc.)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415189 << inquiring minds would like to know what you'd have done with her if you caught her !☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 07:22:41; ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: perfect in the sense of pleads guilty though admits no wrongdoing, sure.
asciilifeform: aha.
pete_dushenski: dies with honour intact, to whatever degree loser can
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415159 << ok fess up! who put the spy camera in my kitchen?!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:58:08; mircea_popescu: and in even more other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/173588322d445d2b59ce0572a36c6298/tumblr_nhqf0lTVs81sfkfqio1_500.gif
asciilifeform: it is on just such folk that the reich still stands.
pete_dushenski: that which can only come from a lifetime of indoctrination via public education and travel only to designated tourist zoos
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415110 << ok that's just plain crafty. tip o' the cap.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 02:36:48; asciilifeform: 'Like other armies the Germans emplaced booby traps to catch unwary souvenir-hunters, but they also used them to cause casualties among Allied small-unit leaders by locating them in possible command post and observation post sites. One example of this was to conceal a booby trap behind a framed picture left hanging crooked on an interior wall of a house: the Germans reasoned that only an officer would
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415511 << this is not my experience with doctrinaire copyrasts.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:26:18; pete_dushenski: that which can only come from a lifetime of indoctrination via public education and travel only to designated tourist zoos
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: what was your experience ?
asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era.
asciilifeform: likewise, there is the fundamental affliction of the old.
pete_dushenski: o ? and just how well travelled are these 1960ists that you can say 'no amount' will suffice ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: where would you send them to travel ?
pete_dushenski: i wouldn't send them anywhere. it's not for me to lead their lives. but a couple of years in 2nd-tier city in 80s ru wouldn't have hurt.
asciilifeform: time travel is on the table now ?!
pete_dushenski: can't teach old dog new tricks. no sense trying to persuade 60yo that life was wasted in the pursuit of the evil and the wrong.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415281 << is this so different than ackman using eizo colouredge ? >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406028 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:24:16; asciilifeform: this always melted my brain.
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 13:15:57; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1405999 >> https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/her09-15_b_lo-res2.jpg?quality=80 << l0l, 2x eizo 'colouredge' !111
asciilifeform: it is not even necessarily clear, that it was.
pete_dushenski: ackman just watches charts and reads emails. so, like argentine, 300dpi is 'wasted'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: idk about you, but i edit text on display.
phf: american experience in su was highly mediated. i've had a chance to meet a handful of these "spent some time in su in the 80s" types, and at best their conclusion is "them russkies are no worse then us". not like they would be allowed to spend their leasure time in the company of my grandfather and his friends, etc.
phf: their whole experience of su is through intourist propotainment and politruk control. who's going to let an american nobody in a company of the valuable products of soviet system. it's a needless risk. at best you get invited to some aparatchik family dinner and get to playbelieve "i was even friends with a russian family!"
pete_dushenski: phf: that's very much why i specified '2nd-tier' ru city, though i suppose this was based on the presumption that most of the mediation was happening in larger urban centres, which i suppose statistically it must have been, but whether that made it easier or harder to break mediated mold in smaller centres isn't thereby granted as being in any way obvious, admittedly.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: editing text is 99% of what i do as well
asciilifeform: phf has it.
asciilifeform: i met these tourists, here.
asciilifeform: mega-riot.
phf: you don't seem to grok how "mediated" works in this case, you or your tour is assigned a dedicated kgb handler and a politruk. if you're not part of tour, then you are assigned those. personally. sop for any sort of interaction with outsiders. politruk is ~personally responsible~ for you not doing anything dodgy. your level of artificial integration depends on how important you are and how experienced your handlers are at running this
phf: particular show.
asciilifeform: and 'dodgy' can include things pete_dushenski wouldn't think of.
pete_dushenski: phf: you're right, that's far more 'mediated' than i'd understood to be the case previously.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu likes to remember the jeans
asciilifeform: so ru folk traded their sovereignty for jeans.
asciilifeform: it is not clear to me that this was a smart thing.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski, phf: even today, a 'human' visiting orc lands is 'mediated', but largely by his own head
asciilifeform: but just as effectivelyt
asciilifeform: (he can't speak the language, so he will only end up in designated zoos, etc.)
phf: heh actually some boomer at russian cultural center was once telling me of his adventures, he proudly told me that him and his wife had a friend in russia and it was even! a kgb guy. the implication is that he was so cool, he even got to meet a bonafide kgb, befriend him and that was his best friend. that's your handler, you dumbass.
phf: oh man, plenty of these people at russian cultural center in DC, can have a little study roster
asciilifeform: phf: i think they're mostly old/dead now
asciilifeform: but perhaps not all.
asciilifeform: i ran into a few when i went to 'rur' at the czech embassy.
phf: yeah, probably on the way out. i was there last about 8 years ago
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> every time blockchain counts a new million blocks. << sounds good!
shinohai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.89, vol: 5591.59211870 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.334, vol: 5796.17642 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 424.28, vol: 13637.03192603 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 405.89, vol: 1.52443611 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 428.92479, vol: 44790.73500000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 421.01601, vol: 780.19886255 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 421.809972, vol: 40.04071369 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
shinohai: ;;more
gribble: 426.99973258
shinohai: srsly gribble? You couldn't have just parsed that in a single statement?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49900 @ 0.00056955 = 28.4205 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: he never does; the final number is always after the ;;more
danielpbarron: funny thing, the number is about as long as the (1 more message)
trinque: max length on IRC messages.
danielpbarron: !s 1 more message
assbot: 851 results for '1 more message' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=1+more+message
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50600 @ 0.00056862 = 28.7722 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: (1 more message) is 16 char, while 426.99973258 is even less, 12.
trinque: heh, good point
asciilifeform: http://www.cramer-shoup.com << lulzy
assbot: Cramer-Shoup ... ( http://bit.ly/1p9oZ4I )
pete_dushenski: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora/one-zimbabwean-shares-thi_b_9307198.html << asciilifeform has same insights ?
assbot: One Zimbabwean Shares Thirty Shocking Things He's Learned About America ... ( http://bit.ly/1p9pN9Q )
pete_dushenski: "He said: "Some of the people will be too old or too weak to carry the food to their cars so you will have to carry the food for them". What shocked me was that these people were being given food hampers because they were poor but they drove cars. Some of them had very nice cars too. In Zimbabwe, poor people don't have cars."
pete_dushenski: "Now, in my first week in the states, something got trapped in the earphone jack of my laptop so I went to an Apple store to see if they can fix it. The genius there told me that he would need to first check it in and that I would only be able to come back and pick it up after four working days. I knew there were other computers in line before me and I really didn't think I could survive four days without a laptop an
pete_dushenski: as also used to the methods we use in Zimbabwe when we get in these situations, so I said to him: " Come on Sir, what if I give you something? Will that speed up the process?" I'm sure he could tell from from my accent where I'm from so he looked me in the eye, lowered his voice and said to me softly : "Sir, you have just offered me a bribe. We don't do that around here."
pete_dushenski: bwahaha why doesn't money work in usistan ? it works everywhere else ! reserve currency status seems to have broken the currency's use and meaning.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46979 @ 0.00057872 = 27.1877 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: from same fishcrap, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-white-supremacist-sec-primary_us_56cf4437e4b0bf0dab31222f
assbot: White Supremacists Mobilize For Donald Trump ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oy67RH )
pete_dushenski: "In Minnesota and Vermont, a white supremacist super PAC called the American National Super PAC has begun circulating a robocall in support of Trump. "The white race is dying out in America and Europe because we are afraid to be called 'racist,' says William Johnson, the leader of the white nationalist American Freedom Party. He goes on to bemoan "gradual genocide against the white race," and how few "schools anymore
pete_dushenski: beautiful white children as the majority." He signs off by telling recipients, "Don’t vote for a Cuban. Vote for Donald Trump." "
shinohai: https://medium.com/@barmstrong/coinbase-is-not-a-wallet-b5b9293ca0e7#.si7f7492y <<< the therapy must be working.
assbot: Coinbase is not a wallet — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oy74cJ )
danielpbarron: https://youtu.be/a6wpYS15Gag?t=1m23s << Kramer Soup
assbot: The Soup Nazi - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1S4kl3n )
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: LZOZLZO
danielpbarron: :D
shinohai: <3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106079 @ 0.0005717 = 60.6454 BTC [-] {4}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 21.55000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b119
pete_dushenski: https://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/ << an odds parity contender to alphago emergeth.
assbot: BitBet - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination :: 85.12 B (51%) on Yes, 83.19 B (49%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 weeks | weight: 22`962 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KAXLHg )
asciilifeform: woah
asciilifeform: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 424.52, Best ask: 424.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 424.78, 24 hour volume: 13556.26534589, 24 hour low: 419.5, 24 hour high: 430.0, 24 hour vwap: None
danielpbarron: i saw that bet coming
asciilifeform: ;;calc 21.55 * 424.52
gribble: 9148.406
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: hows that
pete_dushenski: he made it ?
danielpbarron: was considering betting against myself but decided against it because i figured if i was right, there would be a massive bet to follow anyway and it would just knock my percent down anyway; might as well stick with my first bet and hope a miracle happens
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6073 @ 0.00056688 = 3.4427 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: anyone have any experience with displayport to dvi adapters for ultra-high-res (eg. 4k) monitors ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: iirc if you insist on dvi on 4k you're stuck with 30hz.
asciilifeform: where did you even get a 4k display that has no displayport jack ?
pete_dushenski: other way around. computer has no displayport jack. monitor has.
pete_dushenski: goddam these old computers and their archaic ports eh
asciilifeform: what makes you think the box will put out 4k ?
pete_dushenski: nfi.
shinohai: did isis make good on their threat to knock twitter offline?
pete_dushenski: ;;isitdown twitter.com
gribble: twitter.com is up
asciilifeform: loads.
shinohai: heh
danielpbarron: http://www.geekwire.com/2016/domain-registration-company-rightside-tells-employees-that-w2-forms-were-stolen-in-phishing-attack/ >> The forms included name, home address, Social Security Number and 2015 income. [..] the company is encouraging them to alert the IRS to the theft of their W2s and the potential for the filing of fraudulent tax returns.
assbot: Domain registration company Rightside tells employees that W2 forms were stolen in phishing attack - GeekWire ... ( http://bit.ly/1OynlOV )
ben_vulpes: w2's are a crime
ben_vulpes: slow motion statal rape
ben_vulpes: "tell us how much you diddled each other so that we may distribute other diddling equitably"
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes:
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf please consider sharing your clang build script
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ^ or anybody else.
ben_vulpes: ya plz
ben_vulpes: phf ^^]
asciilifeform: http://thales.doa.fmph.uniba.sk/macaj/skola/teoriapoli/primes.pdf << 133337 w4r3z
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21uVWqe )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> other than to help sink the enemy. << Mega reason
mod6: thanks to trinque, this exists now: http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UnhTWh )
shinohai: \o/
thestringpuller: LOL. Blythe Masters is speaking at the consensus coindesk thing?
thestringpuller: "[Blockchain] is the technology beneath the bitcoin cryptography, but it is not bitcoin."
shinohai: yup. Brian Armstrong will be there too.
thestringpuller: These people are too stupid to be leading armies.
mod6: And so they shant.
thestringpuller: Consensus 2016: Making Bitcoin Great Again!
shinohai: !s http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/25/dea-riverside-wiretaps-scaled-back/80891460/
assbot: Prosecutors halt vast, likely illegal DEA wiretap operation ... ( http://bit.ly/21v02i3 )
assbot: 0 results for 'http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/25/dea-riverside-wiretaps-scaled-back/80891460/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2016%2F02%2F25%2Fdea-riverside-wiretaps-scaled-back%2F80891460%2F
mod6: so, with tinyscheme, there is no 'read-line' -- which we sort of talked about; having to write a bunch of our own procedures.
mod6: and since i have no clue "what lispers typically do", I'll ask: I usually read files one line at a time and then do things accordingly, is this a typical lisp convention? Or do most just read one word at a time and then do stuff?
asciilifeform: mod6: normally one char at a time
mod6: ah, i see.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://mm0hai.net/blog/2015/07/14/Dont-use-the-keyservers.html << fountain of lulz
assbot: Don't use the PGP Keyservers ... ( http://bit.ly/21v1yRt )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: in this case, 'read-char'
mod6: ok
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/47jkue/our_company_has_been_a_victim_of_ransomware/
assbot: Our company has been a victim of RANSOMWARE please help : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1pa5NnH )
asciilifeform: how come nobody ever writes, 'our company was a victim of microshit' ??
asciilifeform: or better yet, 'our company was a victim of my idiot microshit-buying self'
shinohai: > . <
pete_dushenski: stockholm syndrome.
pete_dushenski: old hostage taker is familiar, friendly, and has a kind face
asciilifeform: the fucktards built their 'consensual reality' where 'computer == winblowz' ?? fine. let computer also == paying some nigerian derp every week to decrypt the disk.
pete_dushenski: niggelt
asciilifeform: i predict that usg will come out with a 'doomed but lulzy' taintatron thing for ransom
asciilifeform: 'register your ransom here, we will xxxxx !'
asciilifeform: nothing will come of it except that some unfortunate usaschwitz inmates will be picked up for 'taking in evil coin'
pete_dushenski: this is already sop for stolen bicycles 'tracked' by local poliezi.
pete_dushenski: there's supposedly a shake down of the odd pawn broker, which can't be more than appropriation of a bicycle for the cop's children, but it's mostly just a list of names of bitches who can't deal with their own problems.
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