mircea_popescu goes to fish for the piece of logs where this was predicted.
mircea_popescu: oh and re the perennial discussion of progress and "what things cost" : i'd like a pound of costards, please.
diametric: mircea_popescu: nah, just curious what happened, and if i'd still be welcome in both places. or only one.
diametric: i'll let asciilifeform fill me in when i see him again
mircea_popescu: i just got spam with an... iso image attached. that's a new one o.O
Framedragger: asciilifeform et al.: a couple of representative ssh host key samples (e,N,ip_address) - two /8's - pipeline was masscan (sort of nmap+zmap with custom tcp stack) -> ssh-keyscan (manually parallelized) -> custom conversion into CSV
☟︎ Framedragger: (scanning the whole ipv4 in the sense of "check if something's listening behind this port, for all IPs" is apparently the easy part, even with no/little investment. you don't need to use stateful sockets etc. extracting particular info after doing some back-and-forth is where it's harder to scale.)
Framedragger: (i did store the 'banners' associated with all those IPs though, would consider merging them into the CSVs to become comments. don't know how useful, but curious (e.g. whether weak device is an embedded appliance/router etc))
Framedragger: they'd look like "31.204.153.252:22 SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-4+deb7u4"
mircea_popescu: certainly the "ssh census" will be a valuable qntra article which you're invited to write once done.
mircea_popescu: brief intro of what you did + tables of host counts by openssh version, distro id, B blocks
mircea_popescu: at some point the notion of "child" must end to give way to the notion of "pig". why not just sausage them ?
BingoBoingo: Seriously Framedragger take that and show that you are Qntra contributor material
Framedragger: BingoBoingo ahahah yeh let me tell you state of british children is something like in those pics..but ventilators, foreal? mein gott
BingoBoingo: Anyways when you get the ssh thing written up pls submit it, but also do the piece on the pigletts if you want to.
Framedragger: it can form some kind of series, piglets & shitty refrigerators with open shells, or whatever is running on the internet these days
Framedragger: man i'd like to learn knots. and with that, off to get some sleep
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Framedragger: oh mein gott, the language of these "abuse complaints"... your Server/Customer with the IP: [...] has attacked one of our servers/partners. The attackers used the method/service: *ssh*
Framedragger: canyoubelieveit, i used *ssh*!!11 it's..super effective
a111: Logged on 2016-05-23 02:23 Framedragger: asciilifeform et al.: a couple of representative ssh host key samples (e,N,ip_address) - two /8's - pipeline was masscan (sort of nmap+zmap with custom tcp stack) -> ssh-keyscan (manually parallelized) -> custom conversion into CSV
mircea_popescu: Framedragger "modern democracy", that's what it is. a collective of wankers posturing as people.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you'll end up working at teh mortuary you know.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; yes, fat isn't innervated nor particularly perfused, and the more distant the less connected. which is why really fat people CAN'T actually lose weight. how would they, it is closer to a burlap backpack than a tissue.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: shinohai oh, wait, 100 upvotes "speaking out" ? that's literally two cents.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell funkenstein_ please send me a statement of accounts thanks.
shinohai: Democracy our voice will be herd!
a111: Logged on 2016-05-23 13:32 mircea_popescu: anyway ; yes, fat isn't innervated nor particularly perfused, and the more distant the less connected. which is why really fat people CAN'T actually lose weight. how would they, it is closer to a burlap backpack than a tissue.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform none of the arrested jews were > 300 lbs, either.
mircea_popescu: but sure, over time it perfuses. just, have to maintain an active lifestyle and a catabolic metabolism for years on end.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the margin phenomena of the human sphere are platelet agglomeration on one end ; and aerobic necrosis on the other. the former makes a scab. the latter makes what fly maggots eat. which way the wound goes is decided by how much useful blood shows up per unit time.
mircea_popescu: the human skin, unbreached, is a fantastic barrier to all this ; but like everything else it requires irrigation to function.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-01 07:57 mircea_popescu: the OTHER however, and in the us population without exception the more important, is toxin load. the body has two approaches to dealing with toxins : excretion and fat burial.
mircea_popescu: soo, chinese govt unloaded half a trillion "western world and modern democracy" (WWMD) paper in 2015, including ~300bn us treasuries. that's about 1/6 of their total exposure to usg bonds.
mircea_popescu: if the trend continues, 2018 will be the last year the us can finance ANY imports.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the thread about the ICBC that's about as large as the sum total of us banks yet trades in ny on the pink sheets ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "will it beat up superman" "dude... you think this is the cartoons ?"
mircea_popescu: and speaking of "fed policies" : the fed created a "bull market" that was really a paper bubble devoid of any economic substance whatsoever. guess who rode it to the very peak ?
mircea_popescu: china bought 120 bn worth of us stocks from 2008 to 2015. it liquidated q2/q3 2015.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is like "apple could buy russia" talk. no, they do not. they like to pretend they do. and much like the dumb housewife of some random local tough, some people BELIEVE THEM.
mircea_popescu: the ever-obnoxious reality of economics is that the people you want buying you never pay much ; and the people who pay much you never really want.
mircea_popescu: (ah and in case anyone wonders where the money went ? M&A market. if you don't know what this is - it's when i buy your daughter to take her to shanghai.)
BingoBoingo: Anyways Bayer upped its bid to 62 bn USD for monsanto
mircea_popescu: (and where's the money come from, you wonder ? ah, well, usg.fed.jpm and usg.fed.gs are lending companies money to buy their own stock back :)
mircea_popescu: the past ten years, share buybacks were ~3bn. of which 500 bn 2015 and 500bn 2014.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile 2 obama, 2 bush, 2 clinton and a bush sr back, the share buybacks were 5% that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. damned zimbabwe, losing tracks of zeros already
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even a matter of sons ; the usg has no sons, nor any vigor in the seed. it's a matter of desperation - everything americans don't buy, the chinese buy, take apart and move to china.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: at least in the ru privatisation, the driver was personal appetite, egotism, a will to live. that's good, no matter what the losers say. fuck the losers with a flaming spiked club.
mircea_popescu: " So we understand each other : John is some poor and kinda stupid kid from some ghetto in some indistinct townlet. One day, Mircea the Bad comes there on whatever business, sits down in the bar with his two bitches curled up at his feet and drinks a rum or something. The girls from the ghetto, for love of their country (in our example, that sad ghetto) pick John up forcibly, sit him down at the table next to mine and curl
mircea_popescu: at his feet, just like the other two. They're definitely not slavegirls, they have neither the training nor the skills nor in the end the needs or structure of that relationship, and no marble columns, no gardens where water sprinkles among the cypress nor artesian fountains springing forth marzipan await them at home, but instead the nude concrete walls, the [low class mass produced kitsch wallhanging stuff], the bedbug inf
mircea_popescu: ested pressed shitboard nightstand. But indifferent to all these points, they play a role to support a theory : the theory that here too, in the assghetto of shit "we got fine stuff", and a John who, even if only four letters long, is still quite as great as any Mircea come from afar.
mircea_popescu: Well, that's patriotism, the girls in this example show "love of their ghetto" and that's the thing upon which socialist Romania was built, if you're curious - a structure otherwise borrowed from Carlist Romania. Totul pentru patrie!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this happened once before, at the very least. americans used to go to yurp and buy "art" in the 1880s.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody needs usd for any purpose ; nor does that ~everyone extend past your pit.
mircea_popescu: i keep having to state this, my counter was barely 16 bits and so it overran. how many 65536 times did i say it already ?
mircea_popescu: same thing murican oil magnates bought in milano cca 1886.
mircea_popescu: suppose you're an alien unicorn being of pure energy and infinite capacity. and you go to hollywood.
mircea_popescu: now in this situation, you have a number of possible avenues.
mircea_popescu: 1. you kill anyone and everything that displeases you. this will coallesce the more competent cunts around you, and unite the idiots against you. let's call it the swift scenario, for you're creating a confederacy of dounces.
mircea_popescu: 2. you invest in all the studios, and let them manage it. this will coallesce into a situation where you're "loved" in the particular way the mob loves. let's call it the marc anthony situation, why the hell not. you'll die at their hands, eventually, somehow. that's their love.
mircea_popescu: 3. you create a major alien studio out of shit from the spaceship. this reduces to either 1 or 2 ; generally the mob will fluctuate and undulate and try to fuzz you out, see which of the two reductions works best for them.
mircea_popescu: 3. you BUY all the studios, take them apart, and reform a large alien studio out of the parts. this is the end. hollywood will no longer mean anything to anyone outside of what it means to you.
BingoBoingo: In other news the popular press is referring to the company that invented the LED as a "seeds" company. Not even a chemical company anymore. Just a Burpee catalog with higher profit margins.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, the premise is not to be violated. when the fuck did soros become that powerful.
BingoBoingo: There's prolly a shed frull of cremains somewhere.
mircea_popescu: infinite capacity means, first and foremost, an infinite capacity for erection.
mircea_popescu: something very close to what tmsr demonstrates on a daily basis when "hey, here's a hole, who wants to fuck it" gets a hot rod ramming it within the day.
mircea_popescu: to imagine that a horse in the barn requires a man to steal, but the same horse out in the field "is not so strongly owned so even a toad could steal it" is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: you're stealing the thing you're stealing, not its meaning to some arbitrarily chosen party. cunt is cunt and stays cunt, even if currently in a bored, tedious marriage.
mircea_popescu: it's not hidden, and it's not valuable. it's just there.
mircea_popescu: well, before buldozing you take the contents out right ?
mircea_popescu: less opposition to buldozing an empty frame structure than a "our home".
mircea_popescu: but the discussion mayn't reduce to this. mere lateral example.
mircea_popescu: no. whatever's perhaps meaningful to someone somewhere.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "worth" and "value" like you keep advancing them. there's only meaning.
mircea_popescu: value is merely an arbitrary, coincidental property of meaning. they stand in a relation similar to the relation the question "what;s the sun's value to us" stands with the question "what's the sun's meaning for us".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe it was really the italian thing ; except in a larger system composed of (individual-su space) vs (individual-us space)
mircea_popescu: ie, the INDIVIDUAL as a "us item", aspirationally ; denied the "su item" as a projection of his own, himself.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yes, and that'd be the obviosu construction, but i'm unpersuaded. it dun fit.
shinohai: Get ready for chimpout as Officer Edward Nero din do nuffin'
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make that obscurity clearer : sentence structure is agent - verb - object - 2nd object. agent denies to x y. the agent = the INDIVIDUAL as a "us item", aspirationally ; the verb = denied ; the object = himself. "the "su item" as a projection of his own" is a third party, 2nd object.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand that this image "emptied, cut loose" is entirely nonsensical. knowledge is not a substance to be filled with or emptied of.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: wat << Baltimore cop cleared of all charges. "Black Spring" incoming to James Lafond Presents Baltimore
mircea_popescu: no, looky. if the case is that the knowledge vessel was a jwz, which is to say all juice no politics, then the truthful rendition of the situation is, that the knowledge in question was removed from its unstable situation, to a more sensible one. otherwise, if the vessel in question is a balanced construction, the attempts to "remove" run into the age old "nsa can't hold bitcoin and stay nsa" issue as discussed in the logs.
mircea_popescu: now, i can appreciate you personally wish to look at things in this "management doesn't matter and doesn't exist, so no difference should be made between gasteropode and man", but this is really nonsense. there is such difference, and it's called a spine.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of, yet another dude that failed his job interview, notwithstanding that he came "highly qualified" and "he had bills to pay". that ?
mircea_popescu: so how is this milking, and if it is who's milking whom.
mircea_popescu: the courts of common pleas are full of this inept bullshit, usually dudette with absolutely nothing going for her argues that "company allowed her to interview to steal her ideas and give them to X team of theirs".
mircea_popescu: fortunatelly they moved on to "sexual soimething or the other" now.
mircea_popescu: but the whole nonsense is wholly predicated on the inner self-representatons of an intellect divorced from reality for a long while.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, how it usually works, the dudette then goes to the inept-woman-chorus and they wail for a while.
mircea_popescu: these are the "partners" that went to russia in the end neh ?
mircea_popescu: i don't even count this sort of shit, for all you know it's a movie trailer.
mircea_popescu: i recall now, the supposed.... whatever the fuck it was, bizarro clinton thing with iran. almost exactly the same quality of secret service work as the "saddam has wmds" thing.
mircea_popescu: among other incredibly lulzy points : the guy's salary was ~60k a year.
mircea_popescu: someone who has even an inkling of a chance of getting within 1% of succeeding here, doesn't need your piddly "what barrista makes" income.
mircea_popescu: dude. a) 2015 ; b) things, not own asshole ; c) you pay 60k a year you get exactly what you paid for, lmao.
mircea_popescu: the whole idiocy of this construction - so the iranians were not going to compare the designs with other designs ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "operation merlin" was one of the countless usg ss blunders cca 1998 ; it actually did something cca 2001 ; described in a 2010 book, for which some black dude was sentenced to jail in 2015.
mircea_popescu: ^ equally lulzy case. accused of things, govt failed to prove ; eventually they settled, guy got 1.6mn out of the deal.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, J.A. Parker's apology / trashing of the da should be mandatory reading for anyone on this "usg can do things in its own courts" tack.
mircea_popescu: "everyone knows" etc. anyway : the sterling dude had his discrimination suit thrown out of court because "sikrits". much more interesting angle than all the rest - where's the limit of "human rights" ?
mircea_popescu: ie, what if the black dude were a white blond girl claiming rape ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i feel dumber for having dug up into the unfunny pit of usg-ian unintentional comedy. was there a point to this excursion ?
mircea_popescu: look - the blunders of usg post taliban beheading in 2001 are not more meaningful nor worthy of investigation in the direct sense than the movement of a salted snail. so i don't admit that whatever post 2001 example of behaviour or anecdotal poit of evidence may be used as part of a larger construction of ideas.
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand, i don't admit that 'stealing people for the sake of stealing', whatever may mean, is either related to what we were discussing or a useful method to approach the subject matter we were discussing.
mircea_popescu: my thinking is that this is a passive thing - the usg wasn't collecting them more than the sewer collects pearl necklaces.
mircea_popescu: the collecting of defectors, as a perceived phenomena, is imo best explained by the internal duality of the very defectors in question, fighting with their own demons.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-23 15:27 mircea_popescu: ie, the INDIVIDUAL as a "us item", aspirationally ; denied the "su item" as a projection of his own, himself.
mircea_popescu: no recognizable "us" exists in the process, except if one's so culturally acclimated in the 1990s su mentality as to be able to reconstruct the world in their eyes.
mircea_popescu: surely ; but you know what trotsky tried to do to whatever party ?
mircea_popescu: there is this derpy episode when he wrote to some french wing to dissolve and go join whatever local socialists ; the plan "succeeded" because they were kicked out but when they got kicked out there were 300 of them, so SICK GAINZ!
mircea_popescu: this first level, mechanical approach to things isn't going to yield much.
mircea_popescu: btw, do you know the joke with the angora rabbit at the brothel ?
mircea_popescu: so first borthel is like gtfo, it'll eat you and who's gonna pay ?
mircea_popescu: eventually he finds some people willing to do it. so they put the little rabbit in a room with this eighteen foot monster of a snake
mircea_popescu: but fucking angora rabbit you know, all that fur, doesn't sit well with the snake
mircea_popescu: so moments later the boa spits it out, and the rabbit goes flying over a large arc quarter mile wide
mircea_popescu: and as he's hurling through the air, his doppler-effected voice can be heard going "now that's what i caaall a blooowjoooobbbb"
mircea_popescu: if porn weren't so fucking dead, i might be making some avantgarde anatomy explorations. such as the female stairwell.
mircea_popescu: (tie womenz to stairwell, connect one's urethral intubation to the one below's laringeal intubation. pour cider in the mouthpipe of the topmost one)
mircea_popescu: measure creatinine clearance per intervals, send for publication to medical journals.
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: actually i suppose one should be a darling and a) add VR headests to the girls and b) add lsd at the top.
mircea_popescu: then you could do various brainscan-to-vr combinations, and publish as "artificial intelligence" also
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im thinking bayesian "rule system" / markov chains based off the next girl's brain wavery./
mircea_popescu: nope. and they also have german villages in romania, fwiw.
mircea_popescu: and the people in cincinnati are descendents of the roman republic.
mircea_popescu: fun fact : there was such a thing as "transylvania" in the old us ; attested for instance in the "transylvania purchase".
gribble: adlai was last seen in #trilema 3 weeks, 0 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <adlai> either 60 "random" words have nothing to do with my life, or my basal ganglia are still swimming in lsd.
mircea_popescu: was that fellow actually under psychiatric treatment etc ?
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mircea_popescu: oh boy, that 2nd panel ? totally. my currenlty favourite fucking position.
shinohai: From node logs >>> /SatoshisBitcoinFullFork_PublicTest_At403562:0.11.2/ │ ec2-52-26-216-37.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com (52.26.216.37)
shinohai: I just haen't seen it pop up in a long time
solrodar: $v 01425D8479D4F3408FE4D359CAD07A0FA5C8057E90A196D3368974FF961E26BF
deedbot: solrodar unrated mircea_popescu.
solrodar: prize? that was payment for work performed.
solrodar: and more significantly, the guy made me think about new things for a year or so
solrodar: which is why I'm not rating negatively
mircea_popescu: ah ah with the callgraph stuff. ie what phf ended up doing himself ?
mircea_popescu: eh, it's the nature of the job, let the man work himself sore. gotta earn one's keep for once in his fucking life neh ?
mircea_popescu: go around derping, who knows, maybe someone buys it. and if they do - all the better, for everyone involved.
mircea_popescu: why should i want the esteem of "the general public" / solrodar / whatever.
mircea_popescu: same reason bartender eventually goes "you're drunk, go home".
mircea_popescu: what, "oh no, someone bought me a drink here once, i now own the place" or somesuch ?
mircea_popescu: the drunk's claims as to "his moneys" are of interest perhaps to the other drunks.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, in general and unrelatedly, this consumerist notion that "oh, i have rights" has very little weight in wot terms. shit in your relationships, good luck with your "rights".
mircea_popescu: fella has been saying versions of this since february, and got shown to have actually lied in the discovery process, to the syndic, for a profit motive.
mircea_popescu: well yes, you missed. because when a shithead tries to steal from me it's not news. but when a shithead lies about the reverse, your ears perk up.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's public, review the process to your satisfaction.
mircea_popescu: among others, the one where he wanted to get the proceeds of the house bets as free money.
mircea_popescu: but in general, the whole fucking exercise was a lengthy, tedious story of "gimme".