⏐︎ 11491
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00074617 = 26.7875 BTC [+]
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280502 <<< This is the perfect place for someone that perceives pgp as "silly". ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 23:09:19; adlai: pgp is just silly
shinohai: ./s
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12560 @ 0.0007443 = 9.3484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61440 @ 0.0007443 = 45.7298 BTC [-]
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 8th October - http://bitbet.us/bet/1202/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/#b3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17871 @ 0.00074498 = 13.3135 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32097 @ 0.00074634 = 23.9553 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 231.95, Best ask: 231.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 231.97, 24 hour volume: 3523.07376493, 24 hour low: 231.4, 24 hour high: 233.38, 24 hour vwap: None
ben_vulpes: whoa
ben_vulpes: log is showing lines that my irc client is not
ben_vulpes: a no, pure derpitude on my part.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00074891 = 12.6191 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: eh, forcing people do things isn't the best strategy anyway.
mircea_popescu: cazalla eulora item.
adlai sighs
adlai: trinque: pls to compare http://deedbot.org/deed-375398-2.txt and http://dpaste.com/3H6RR87.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KsI8m2 )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YshvHy )
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.unrate.deedbot-:76571928fcc755b2f8a24c1c31b84255cad1497770f9f056a37084e366b73afa
assbot: Successfully unrated deedbot-
mircea_popescu: people anmd their down jones fixation.
adlai: hey it urned us a buck dinnit?
mircea_popescu: trinque other than the silliness of trying to force people to do things, the more general problem with not publishing code is that it creates a world of perverse incentives for one,
mircea_popescu: sooner than later you'll find yourself chasing your tail because of it.
trinque: I'd probably be a lot more willing to shoot the guy a tarball without the antics
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/34TTQ2X.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ysy46f )
deedbot-: rejected: 1
adlai: ... well at least it respects revocations!
adlai: !rated trinque
assbot: You rated user trinque on 28-Apr-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: highly educational, taught me not to trust unsigned text: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280535.
mircea_popescu: well that;s kinda people publish it rather than passing it along on a p2p basis. saves them the effort of evaluating everyone's antics.
adlai: trinque: what can i say, drama is a lifestyle
adlai wonders what's wrong with 34TTQ2X.txt, curl|gpg eats it just fine
mircea_popescu: prolly the comments.
adlai: you mean the quoted public key block getting interpreted as a valid one?
mircea_popescu: adlai what is your notion of "never" and "another message" anyway.
mircea_popescu: not like pgp has these notions.
mircea_popescu: that, yes.
adlai: those notions are uncontrovertial, neither is "forseen"
adlai: ie, if another message is signed, the key was cracked
adlai: (or dignork asked for a challenge)
mircea_popescu: how do you know if it was signed after or before.
adlai: lolkay, s/sign/deed/
mircea_popescu: ah.
mircea_popescu: well it makes a difference, it's not obvious at all.
danielpbarron: step 1) sign contract step 2) recieve payment of some sort step 3) revoke key and claim "cracked" when counterparty tries to make an appeal
adlai: idiot counterparty should've deeded it!
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/31CHJZQ.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ysz9uI )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai: ok, progress
mircea_popescu: heh.
trinque: adlai: as for the one with a sig wrapping a sig, I'll have to update the code first.
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/316CXMR.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YszLAA )
deedbot-: rejected: 1
adlai blinks
adlai: trinque: this is rather weird now
adlai has another idea...
trinque: nah that one looks right; maybe I busted something earlier.
trinque: adlai: wtf, you revoked that key
trinque: lol
adlai: of course i did.
trinque: and it didn't work.
adlai: free testing is worth what you pay for it!
trinque: truly a professional troll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.000744 = 17.2608 BTC [-] {5}
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3A1RC4V.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KsLDsA )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai: who knew losing backups could be this fun
mircea_popescu: !up probobonobo
mircea_popescu: hey cazalla : i need a noob crafter to make me a tool in eulora, hopefully get some recipe copies.
mircea_popescu: you game to log in in a coupla hours ?
adlai scratches head at deedbot-
adlai: this bug is actually far stranger than i can even imagine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00074325 = 31.8111 BTC [-]
trinque: adlai: not really that weird; gpg ignores data outside a header/footer pair
trinque: including a dangling header where the footer is chopped off
trinque: and my regex is currently quite happy to do so for wrapped messages
trinque: fixing atm
adlai wonders whether there should be any way to "cancel" a deed
adlai: (before the hourly commitment)
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0H32Y9J.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KsNcaf )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai blames the long stressful day at the troll mines
adlai: !down adlai
cazalla: mircea_popescu, don't have a client to do so (nuked windows drive with the win ver)
cazalla: and couldn't get it running on ubuntu last i tried
mircea_popescu: ah sucks
cazalla: is http://www.eulorum.org/Ubuntu current?
assbot: Ubuntu - Eulorum ... ( http://bit.ly/1D6vTgQ )
mircea_popescu: ye
cazalla: i'll give it a whirl
mircea_popescu: cool cause if i don't manage to get this old screens recipe replicated we're sol without screens.
mircea_popescu: only one in entire game so far.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00074894 = 29.1338 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/teen-prosecuted-naked-images-himself-phone-selfies
assbot: Teen prosecuted as adult for having naked images – of himself – on phone | US news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1LqMC0L )
BingoBoingo: cazalla: That was already covered on qntra a while back
cazalla: same kid?
BingoBoingo: Yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00074916 = 19.0661 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: the fuck is the guardian recycling 3 week old stories for then? (you know, i also read about the ISIS dinar again this morning)
BingoBoingo: Because they have to
cazalla: common malware story so not really qntra worthy but still lulzy http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/townsville-adult-store-blackmailedby-hackers/story-fnii5v6w-1227536627027 "We contacted the police and they told us there was nothing they could do. We contacted the Federal Police and they told us there’s nothing they could do either"
assbot: Client risk as hackers blackmail sex shop ... ( http://bit.ly/1LqNYbO )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47850 @ 0.00074994 = 35.8846 BTC [+] {3}
deedbot-: [Qntra] Apple App Store Suffers Sustained Attack, Spreads Malware to Customers - http://qntra.net/2015/09/apple-app-store-suffers-sustained-attack-spreads-malware-to-customers/
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers!
asciilifeform: 4GB RAM, SSD drive, the works.
asciilifeform: battery back up, locked room with camera, come and get it motherfuckers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26366 @ 0.00075011 = 19.7774 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Beautiful asciilifeform
asciilifeform: Bucephalus: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: win.
asciilifeform: now this is not an ideal box, it is on a 20/5 commercial pipe.
asciilifeform: but it will have to do its duty until there is a fleet of serious iron, somewhere.
asciilifeform: bbl.
mod6: nice, thanks asciilifeform!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00075029 = 13.6928 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00075068 = 17.3407 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 8.27551304 BTC on 'No' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b20
asciilifeform: full height, 17 connections
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00075127 = 36.5117 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00074668 = 13.8509 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ;;later tell adlai what was all that about ...?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !rated adlai
assbot: You have not rated adlai.
asciilifeform: !rate adlai 2 horseman of common lisp robopocalypse
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/c95e2aa0fc9ba218
Birdman: Im looking for a staker on swcpoker, here are two graphs showing my statistics there http://imgur.com/MUdjFfc http://imgur.com/8d2EjZw
assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1KF3yA6 )
assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1KF3wrX )
asciilifeform: !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.adlai.2:40d46c35ffca536c78fd9ee8b58a1c7337964c9754adb15e2a76a22e582f7944
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for adlai with note: horseman of common lisp robopocalypse
asciilifeform: Birdman: what's a 'staker' ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: your naming conventions are lovely
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: which ?
Birdman: Someone to invest the money to bank roll my play for expected profits
ben_vulpes: bucephalus, zoolag, ignatius
asciilifeform: people take investors to play poker now ?!!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: incitatus
asciilifeform: caligula's horse.
ben_vulpes: Birdman: has swc solved collusion?
ben_vulpes bows
asciilifeform: and senator.
ben_vulpes: i need ecc meatram
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have some but don't know where to buy it
asciilifeform: not sure if it is made any more.
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: wat
asciilifeform: aha i think it was .su only product..
asciilifeform: l0l
ben_vulpes: i dun even b'leev u
Birdman: They are not in the wot and dont use any authentication, though tournaments usually make collusion not profitable
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: familiar with 'caribou mathematics contest'?
asciilifeform: can't say i am
ben_vulpes: Birdman: i'm taking the girl on a cross-state line run, but please tell me later how tournaments make collusion unprofitable
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: came in on the local homeschooling wotwire
asciilifeform: i assume it is an olympiad of one kind or another ?
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes off to taunt feds
mircea_popescu: man that eth bet :D
asciilifeform: srsly
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> people take investors to play poker now ?!! << this is older than litecoin.
asciilifeform: why would anyone take this up
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
asciilifeform: evidently!
mircea_popescu: nevada casinos gross in the billions. it's a distraction.
asciilifeform: no that part makes sense
asciilifeform: but why would anyone pay some other fella to play poker ~in his stead~
mircea_popescu: why would someone pay some other fella to fuck his wife in his stead ?
mircea_popescu: if you'll excuse the pon.
asciilifeform: so the equivalent in card game would be... a puckold ?
mircea_popescu: it's a distraction.
mircea_popescu: lol.
asciilifeform: (pockold? cackold?)
mircea_popescu: nono because queen of spades.
asciilifeform: bitcoin-ruby:0.0.6 << l0l
asciilifeform: did not know this existed.
cazalla: Birdman, i know a game up in binghamton, ya interested?
cazalla: full of municipal workers but i reckon you could take it down
Birdman: I appreciate the offer but that is too far for me
asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280658 << for wiki ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 02:32:46; asciilifeform: Bucephalus:
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: is this from rounders ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, lol yeah
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes consider installing a therealbitcoin node in your little shop of horrors ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: we could very much use more of these sitting on proper commercial wires, with static ip, qos, clean mains power, etc
mircea_popescu: !up vkmc
mircea_popescu: cazalla so didja manage to get it going ?
cazalla: nope
cazalla: http://dpaste.com/046YK9Z.txt at which point i sat and wished i could actually use a computer
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WcGYCP )
cazalla: busted muh steam games (tf2 and csgo) in the process somehow, prob all the shit i installed at the cli without having a clue what it was
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15459 @ 0.00074445 = 11.5085 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00075234 = 23.9244 BTC [+] {3}
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The disadvantages of funding, translated and adnotated. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/20/the-disadvantages-of-funding-translated-and-adnotated/
mircea_popescu: cazalla betcha you didn't do the export lines like it's said in the recipe
mircea_popescu: used multiple windows or who knows what.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00074411 = 11.4965 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hey mike_c if you read this... need a super noob crafter in eulora. or i guess mod6 ? you ever crafted mod6 ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00074411 = 12.8731 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/20/the-disadvantages-of-funding-translated-and-adnotated << i dare say the ro was more readable !! ☟︎
assbot: The disadvantages of funding, translated and adnotated. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFbBwz )
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: romanian not really pete's strong language is it ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/20/the-disadvantages-of-funding-translated-and-adnotated/#comment-31000
assbot: The disadvantages of funding, translated and adnotated. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFcQvJ )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00074758 = 28.2585 BTC [+]
mod6: mircea_popescu: i'm somewhere around lvl 70 crafter.
mircea_popescu: ah
mod6: looking for someone with lower rank?
mod6: I successfully made a samovar once, and then turned my attention to mining :]
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: yeah need someone who's practically a virgin
mod6: ah ok. thanks for checking though.
asciilifeform: zoolag: 54 bucephalus: 19
mircea_popescu: got 15 (if we're talking connections)
asciilifeform: this leads me to unpleasant 'we are a parallel universe' line of thought
asciilifeform: how many boxes might we suppose presently exist that are honestly describable as a bitcoin node ?
asciilifeform: i.e. no 'headers-first' or other gavinisms, no ssl or other hearnias, etc
cazalla: mircea_popescu, obviously 50 windows and ran the commands in each one multiple times
cazalla: seriously though, tried to cook it on 14.04, nfi if that is why i had issues but probable given guide is for 10.04
cazalla: can settle for 12.04 but steam does not work on 10.04 so useless for me for desktop
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00074411 = 14.0265 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, like a dozen i guess.
mircea_popescu: cazalla did the first step (compiling cal3d) return with errors ?
mircea_popescu: sorry, cs not cal3d
cazalla: i wouldn't even know tbh
cazalla: spat out all manner of shit that might as well be in another language
cazalla: configure.in didn't have a line with AM_USE_UNITTESTCPP to comment out either
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11082 @ 0.00074758 = 8.2847 BTC [+]
cazalla: i'll dig another hdd out the garage to install 10.04 on and try again
punkman: hmm, I see the backup gremlins have been working extra hard the last couple weeks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81700 @ 0.00074383 = 60.7709 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17243 @ 0.00074694 = 12.8795 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3276 @ 0.00074758 = 2.4491 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 375438 | Current Difficulty: 5.933535123386657E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 376991 | Next Difficulty In: 1553 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
cazalla: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/644971360008011776
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7181 @ 0.00074758 = 5.3684 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0007435 = 4.3867 BTC [-]
punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/08/pr0n_app_takes_blackmail_pics_ransom/ ☟︎
assbot: URRGH! Evil app WATCHES YOU WATCHING PORN, snaps your grimace • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1gFmS3O )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0007435 = 4.1636 BTC [-]
punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/21/us-japan-security-idUSKCN0RL08Z20150921
assbot: Support for Japan’s Abe sags after security bills passed| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jk9065 )
punkman: "Public support for Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe fell after the passage of controversial national security bills, which could let troops fight overseas for the first time since the end of World War Two"
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPX6YVcUAAEMpa7.jpg:large "Life vests left by refugees on Lesbos, Greece"
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lr4p7X )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00074333 = 19.4009 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00074758 = 6.3171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @ 0.00074325 = 36.0476 BTC [-]
punkman: "There is an accusation that current British Prime minister David Cameron 'put his genitals in the mouth of a dead pig' in a frat style initiation ceremony. The book was co-written by one of his former colleagues and one of the biggest donors to Cameron's political party." ☟︎
punkman: https://twitter.com/charltonbrooker/status/645738919426920448
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00074325 = 13.2299 BTC [-]
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPYb1X1W8AAs3ps.jpg:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lr5GMx )
fluffypony: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3lrjeg/psa_i_end_up_losing_17_on_p2p_lending_sites_after/
assbot: [PSA] I end up losing 17% on P2P lending sites after 2 months. I strongly advise avoiding using them if you are a lender. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lr76ql )
fluffypony: that is truly surprising
fluffypony: I'm so surprised
fluffypony: this is my surprised face
mircea_popescu: supa suparised.
mircea_popescu: !up ffmad
shinohai: Lending to gamblers is always a great idea, fluffypony
punkman: I thought you were supposed to only lose ~20% a year
punkman: "How many investments did auto-invest make for you?" "About 30 on BTCJam. I'm hoping to turn the loss into profit with the Law of Big Numbers though I'm not optimistic."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
fluffypony: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16304 @ 0.00074518 = 12.1494 BTC [+]
cazalla: Invested:0.17 BTC.. almost like scammers trying to out-invest fellow scammers but get scammed themselves
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 22.28508574 BTC on 'No' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b21
mircea_popescu: the fellowsheep of the scamvestor
mircea_popescu: the irony being that all this is EXACTLY like silicon valley vc / generally vc.
mircea_popescu: except those schmucks don't have friends in the printer house.
shinohai: http://www.coindesk.com/quiz-do-you-know-the-basics-of-bitcoin/ <<< For so,e reason I can't see this
assbot: Quiz: Do You Know the Basics of Bitcoin? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd3ons )
shinohai: 21 friggin scripts just to view an article. Fuck you coindesk.
mircea_popescu: obviously you don't know the basics of webcoin.
cazalla: half expected to get some CPA offer at the end of that quiz shinohai
cazalla: then again, have ublock going so it probably had one but was blocked
shinohai: Or "Congrats, you passed! Here's some VC monies to get started."
cazalla tries again without ublock
fluffypony: how is knowing about BitLicense a "basic" of Bitcoin?
fluffypony: what a stupid quiz
shinohai: I like mircea_popescu 's quiz better.
cazalla: fluffypony, shut up, i got 10/10 ok, i'm a certified expert now http://i.imgur.com/D5lGwFS.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NO6Zqv )
fluffypony: so did I
fluffypony: and I didn't become a certified anything :-P
mircea_popescu: im trying to think what'd be more irrelevant to bitcoin than "bitlicense".
mircea_popescu: ethereum, perhaps.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinxt
mircea_popescu: o check it out, 2/3 items in cazalla's screenshot are about usgavin's scamcoin. and wtf is sabr.io
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28150 @ 0.00074471 = 20.9636 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: sabr.io is that new venture that promises to help LE track down bitcoin criminals.
cazalla: "SABR monitors multiple blockchains to identify and locate criminal activity."
shinohai: http://www.coindesk.com/startup-sabr-io-could-have-caught-silk-road-founder-in-days/
assbot: Startup Sabr.io is Helping to Catch Bitcoin's Criminals ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd4Cio )
mircea_popescu: hm, anyone with a bunch of time on his hands wanna do some social media work for me ?
mircea_popescu: lol could have caught my foot.
mircea_popescu: !up Anduck
mircea_popescu: yo anduck what are you doing these days ?
kakobrekla: !rated Anduck
assbot: You rated user Anduck on 22-Dec-2014, with a rating of -5, and supplied these additional notes: idiot. does not understand how bitcoin works..
mircea_popescu: that, i know.
kakobrekla: k
mircea_popescu: where's vexual when you need him.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: What sort of social media work may I ask?
mircea_popescu: deviant art.
shinohai: Kewl.
mircea_popescu: specifically : i need a large drawing to illustrate "death" in eulora. the job is to trawl the entire fucking site until you find GOOD, gothy-like drawings of at least 2k px wide, and show them to me
mircea_popescu: if i like em, ask the author if he'd like to have it featured in game, bring him over here, he gets some btc dust, all is well.
mircea_popescu: basically spend all day clicking through deviant art.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00074325 = 26.1624 BTC [-]
shinohai: I'll trawl some and see what I find. That artist that drew your bitcoin collage can't draw "death" ?
mircea_popescu: of course he can.
mircea_popescu: but i'd rather give some guy a chance to strike a conversation with deeply disturbed 16 yo girls first.
shinohai: xD
mircea_popescu: oh, i thought you meant jason juta, the guy that made the thing http://minigame.bz/splash.png was based off.
mircea_popescu: the bitcoin collage was actually drawn by a chick.
shinohai: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs17/i/2012/171/b/6/angel_of_death_aka_grim_reaper_by_sinslave-dimt0u.jpg <<< I like this death already.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd6jfR )
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't really want line art. i want stuff more like that yeah
mircea_popescu: actually that one's not half bad.
mircea_popescu: ask the author.
mircea_popescu: tho if you had any sense you'd stick to womenz.
shinohai will attempt to find women that aren't sjw's and insane on deviantart
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with sjw ? :D
davout: hello
mircea_popescu: ohai.
davout: "if we don't have a plausible scaling story soon, banks are going to start experimenting with permissioned blockchains."
mircea_popescu: ONOES
mircea_popescu: how about banks start experimenting with fitting my cock up their uvula.
davout: every single time I think reddit has hit the bottom, it out-stupids itself
mircea_popescu: it's going there anyway.
davout: and digs moar
mircea_popescu: anyway, bbl.
shinohai: I like this one too, and she is Spanish female: http://orig05.deviantart.net/e250/f/2012/314/8/0/angel_of_death_by_maiarcita-d4vfk40.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd6GHl )
mircea_popescu: shinohai not bad but wrong proportion. i need landscape that's portrait.
punkman: here's an artist suggestion http://problemglyphs.org/
assbot: Problem Glyphs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd6Iii )
davout: mircea_popescu: liked the "You know what gets no airplay ? Unflattering truth." a lot
davout: also pls to x.eur, we're the 21st...
cazalla: http://joakimericsson.deviantart.com/art/Four-Horsemen-Death-355293920 probably not what you want size wise
assbot: Four Horsemen - Death by JoakimEricsson on DeviantArt ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpdWyh )
cazalla: http://orig14.deviantart.net/d84d/f/2013/023/a/1/alone_in_the_wasteland__sacrifice_of_the_innocents_by_joakimericsson-d5sgq5b.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oped4a )
jurov: hi davout, i requested x.eur delivery, still not on paymium
jurov: or it's waiting on mircea too?
mircea_popescu: davout ah yes, here you are! ok euroing.
mircea_popescu: you know who else liked it a lot ? twitter, apaprently!
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/trilema/status/645573044300304384
shinohai: How have I been here ~6 moths and never found the trilema twitter account.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00075107 = 20.5042 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: because new chick on the block (social media expert in civil life) insisted to make a bunch of those shits YESTERDAY
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43004 @ 0.00074206 = 31.9115 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: did she buy a bunch of retweets?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4792 @ 0.00074113 = 3.5515 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: speaking of social media, allow me the first to mention that #BaeOfPigs is a thing, and probably the best hashtag ever conceived
punkman: pretty good :D
cazalla: sheeit, poor gavin relegated to the edges of the photoshoot https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPMCxcjUEAAISNo.jpg:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JkooiR )
shinohai: Goog God Gavin is a Fat Fuck, isn't he?
cazalla: i get the impression charlie lee and bobby lee are brothers in the sense some white american couple bought them from an orphanage or something
mircea_popescu: davout you should be all set.
mircea_popescu: punkman looking at it i guess she must have.
mircea_popescu: which is weird because where the fuck would she get moneyz. ☟︎
mircea_popescu idly hoovered over the faces, saw various VC minded folks, didn't realise retweets are a different rubric.
punkman: could be some kind of spamtweet exchange too. tweet shit, get credits, spend em on other tweets
mircea_popescu: it now occurs to me this is maybe not even coincidental.
mircea_popescu: o you know... damn.
mircea_popescu: so that's what they do on the cellphones all day.
mircea_popescu: !up VariaVarietatis
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what's bae of pigs ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280804 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 09:01:16; punkman: "There is an accusation that current British Prime minister David Cameron 'put his genitals in the mouth of a dead pig' in a frat style initiation ceremony. The book was co-written by one of his former colleagues and one of the biggest donors to Cameron's political party."
mircea_popescu: cazalla at least he fattened nicely.
mircea_popescu: o
kakobrekla: i lost track of node, are dulap, zoolag and incitatus still in game?
kakobrekla: nodes
VariaVarietatis: mircea_popescu: I got a question about one of the footnotes in that article vi if peter is trading away 80% of his company to Richard for 1m at a 5m valuation?(number she used) but selling it at a 20% discount does that mean the term value is 4m and the valuation is 5m how does that work?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla except for dulap iirc.
kakobrekla: ok
mircea_popescu: VariaVarietatis peter's company ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, 20% discount because he gets to own 20% of the million he brought himself, as well as of richard's company.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't trade 1mn for 20% of richard's company. he trades 1mn for 20% of richard's company and 20% of 1mn.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla but there's also my unnamed one as well as bucephalus or w/e the recent one got called.
fluffypony: https://twitter.com/ROCLASI/status/645882306163515392
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280729 < hope i got this right http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin/nodes ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 04:06:16; asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280658 << for wiki ?
assbot: the_real_bitcoin:nodes [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1JkrP9b )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00074681 = 2.8005 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22310 @ 0.00075224 = 16.7825 BTC [+]
VariaVarietatis: mircea_popescu: so he gets 200k cash 800k goes into the company account richard gets 80% peter gets 20% going from PP1 to PP2 here? also how does the note part work I thought notes didn't get converted into equity until the company investors or is he filling his own note? still lost.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 35150 @ 0.00024109 = 8.4743 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: he gets no cash.
mircea_popescu: well at least not normally.
VariaVarietatis: mircea_popescu: where does the 200k go?
mircea_popescu: nowhere.
shinohai: thx kakobrekla for making list.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla missing ☟︎
kakobrekla: which one is that, does it have a name?
mircea_popescu: it's mine.
kakobrekla: ok
mircea_popescu: i never named it.
kakobrekla: you just did
mircea_popescu: whatever.b-a.link ?
kakobrekla: added
mircea_popescu: worx
VariaVarietatis: mircea_popescu: so the company only gets 20% of the 1mn, what about the other 80% where does that come in?
mircea_popescu: dude. richard has a fish. peter has a million. they make a deal, now peter has 20% of (fish+million).
mircea_popescu: so he paid 1mn for 20% of fish + 20% of million. so he paid in the end 800k for 20% of fish, so he got fish at 1mn with 20% discount.
mircea_popescu is bbl.
davout: !up VariaVarietatis
davout: VariaVarietatis: when it's said peter owns 20% of the million after the deal, he owns it indirectly through richard's company that owns 1mn, he now owns 20% of
VariaVarietatis: davout: think got it. was getting mixed up thinking only 800k went in
davout: /r/buttcoin seems slightly butthurt about this jstolfi leaving situation... https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3log4j/ujstolfi_goes_the_way_of_whollyhemp_after_death/cv8bzkr?context=3
assbot: davout-bc comments on /u/jstolfi goes the way of whollyhemp after death threats from scientologists ... ( http://bit.ly/1JkvIuB ) ☟︎
VariaVarietatis: but discount comes from owning it after the money is already in.
davout: VariaVarietatis: to me it's just a confusing way of saying exactly the same thing
funkenstein_: Them footnotes made me think for a moment Ted Nelson's vision is finally springing to life :)
funkenstein_: good morning WoT cattle *tips hat*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35790 @ 0.00075224 = 26.9227 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00074113 = 21.3445 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.00074016 = 29.1623 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13196 @ 0.00074002 = 9.7653 BTC [-]
davout: jurov: is mpex dead for you too? (empty stats)
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.04307875 BTC on 'No' - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 8th October - http://bitbet.us/bet/1202/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/#b7
asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280942 << nope. >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-09-2015#1277110 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 11:43:36; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280729 < hope i got this right http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin/nodes
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 00:37:40; asciilifeform: over, for the time being. zoolag @
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: fixed
asciilifeform: ty
asciilifeform: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/0.5.3-todos << frightfully out of date, prolly ought to be zapped
assbot: 0.5.3-todos [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1KuoDJM )
kakobrekla: done
jurov: davout: don't see it (but yes, happens)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: is there a link to therealbitcoin.org in there ?
kakobrekla: search says no.
davout: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3WZ461M.txt ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KupUk9 )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if you are running the item described in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269180 this would handily explain why your node is so easily wedged. it lacks the db locks fix (and, on top of this, still stores fucking orphan tx, even) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-09-2015 02:07:13; mircea_popescu: hm you know i think you're right, this is an older thing
deedbot-: accepted: 1
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00074278 = 26.5172 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00074002 = 24.6797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00074459 = 30.7516 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: from the l0lfarmz: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/us/politics/george-w-bush-made-retroactive-nsa-fix-after-hospital-room-showdown.html
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kurxyk )
asciilifeform: 'Doxycycline, an antibiotic, went from $20 a bottle in October 2013 to $1,849 by April 2014, according to the two lawmakers.'
asciilifeform: (from same fishwrap, http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html )
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KurX7R )
asciilifeform: 'This is not the first time the 32-year-old Mr. Shkreli, who has a reputation for both brilliance and brashness, has been the center of controversy. He started MSMB Capital, a hedge fund company, in his 20s and drew attention for urging the Food and Drug Administration not to approve certain drugs made by companies whose stock he was shorting.' << mega-l0l
asciilifeform: nothing like an inherited wealth vermin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109650 @ 0.00073919 = 81.0522 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40207 @ 0.00073853 = 29.6941 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280751 << well ya, and aristotle's nicomachean ethics was more readable in greek. so what ? not like translations are targeted at readers of the tongue of the original. this article is for pretty much anyone who isn't stan, mp, or hanbot :) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 04:55:05; asciilifeform: http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/20/the-disadvantages-of-funding-translated-and-adnotated << i dare say the ro was more readable !!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: also, http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/20/the-disadvantages-of-funding-translated-and-adnotated/#comment-31039
assbot: The disadvantages of funding, translated and adnotated. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kuwc3k )
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280754 << it isn't. but it doesn't help that my translation efforts are ~starting~ with post-phd-level writings THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCENTS ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 04:56:41; mircea_popescu: romanian not really pete's strong language is it ?
pete_dushenski: it's like trying to read straight torah right out of the scrolls without ever having seen a layperson's text that distinguishing 'bet' from 'vet'
pete_dushenski: in other news, http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/20/us-health-dementia-idUSKCN0RK15220150920
assbot: A third of Britons born in 2015 will develop dementia: study| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1KuwQh2 )
pete_dushenski: see ? socialism is statistically guaranteed to rot your brain. even socialists agree. ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25050 @ 0.00073791 = 18.4846 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.0007376 = 12.7605 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://www.lavanguardia.com/economia/20150919/54436644972/mas-colell-espana-obligada-pagar-pensiones-catalunya-independiente.html << bahaha. o man, wtf does 'la independencia
assbot: Mas-Colell dice que España está obligada a pagar las pensiones ... ( http://bit.ly/1KuAk39 )
pete_dushenski: ' mean to the people ? ☟︎
punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/21/amazon_medical_gaffe/
assbot: Techie finds 1.5 MEELLION US medical records exposed on AWS • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1KuBY54 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.0007487 = 11.3428 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1280793 << since details are so utterly lacking on 'el reg' >> http://research.zscaler.com/2015/09/more-adult-themed-android-ransomware.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zscaler%2Fresearch+%28Zscaler+Research%29 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 07:44:56; punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/08/pr0n_app_takes_blackmail_pics_ransom/
assbot: Zscaler Research: More Adult Themed Android Ransomware ... ( http://bit.ly/1KuDm7B )
pete_dushenski: naturally, it uses paypal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00075235 = 9.3291 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller
pete_dushenski: "AMD's top microprocessor architect Jim Keller has walked from the chip vendor, just months after the company unveiled a shift in strategy to reinvest in high-end FX CPUs. Keller quit on Friday, having returned to AMD in 2012 after most recently working at Apple." ☟︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: and in still other news, "Apple has published a workaround after some iPhone and iPad users were left stranded in the middle of the iOS 9 update process. The Cupertino giant has acknowledged multiple complaints that devices were unable to progress past the "Slide to Upgrade" screen when moving to the latest version of iOS. Apple's remedy: wipe your device and hope you made a backup."
gernika: And this is actually ok because the contents of their devices is *worthless*.
pete_dushenski: perhaps objectively
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00073954 = 6.434 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25092 @ 0.00073732 = 18.5008 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281036 << amd opteron is the single most precarious 'strategic good' in my particular household (can't speak for others) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 15:28:09; pete_dushenski: "AMD's top microprocessor architect Jim Keller has walked from the chip vendor, just months after the company unveiled a shift in strategy to reinvest in high-end FX CPUs. Keller quit on Friday, having returned to AMD in 2012 after most recently working at Apple."
ascii_field: the one and only workstation-class chip that will run 100% blobless
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281021 << it is necessary to somehow explain why virtually all of the mathematics worth anything whatsoever in 20th c. happened under the red flag ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 14:37:42; pete_dushenski: see ? socialism is statistically guaranteed to rot your brain. even socialists agree.
thestringpuller: been syncing blockchain on essentially raspberry pi for 33 days and 1 hour
ascii_field: raspi is an astonishing piece of shit
thestringpuller: It's not a raspi just in terms of power it's about a rasbpi
thestringpuller: it's a VPS but it's smallest footprint size
thestringpuller: even so it's going to cost about 80 bucks to sync a full blockchain from zulag or dulap - genesis to current.
thestringpuller: at the very least*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78850 @ 0.00073579 = 58.017 BTC [-] {3}
ascii_field: thestringpuller: -connect ?
thestringpuller: yes with -connect
ascii_field: ftr i don't get the point of running a node on vps
thestringpuller: better internet.
thestringpuller: i.e. more uptime, not all of us have business internet in our houses :P
ascii_field: it is rather like 'all you can eat soup' but with no spoon and your hands tied behind your back.
thestringpuller: who cares if I have to eat like a dog for a single sync
thestringpuller: at least I have valid blockchain :P
thestringpuller: i.e. soup won't be poisoned
ascii_field: and you know this how ?
thestringpuller: VPS can magically change running code and storage? dis VPS skynet now?
ascii_field: nothing magic about it
thestringpuller: If VPS is magically changing blockchain the client would wedge which it has not...
ascii_field: does not follow.
thestringpuller: this magical attack vector doesn't seem feasible
thestringpuller: to change running process and storage in way that bitcoin client is validating invalid blocks... ☟︎
ascii_field: how often your machine validates ancient blocks ?
BingoBoingo: ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00075235 = 26.7837 BTC [+]
ascii_field: (if you think this happens on boot, you are mistaken - read the source.)
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Someone else runs the real machine your "virtual machine" runs on
thestringpuller: ascii_field: I will find out when I do --validate on the blocks on my local machine.
thestringpuller: there is more science to be done to minimize risk
ascii_field: validate ?
thestringpuller: tis a joke
thestringpuller: the actual command is -checkblocks=0 no? (check all blocks on startup)
ascii_field: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/db.cpp#0587
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mmf1nr )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00075235 = 6.0188 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ascii_field: so it doesn't actually validate all the blocks? if I'm reading correctly it goes through all blocks in "best chain" if checkblocks is selected...
ascii_field: aha
thestringpuller: am i close? (that's what she said)
ascii_field: close
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
thestringpuller: i guess I don't fully grok ascii_field
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu lulzy: urbit's bastard gossipd: http://happut-fopnys.urbit.org/home/tree/pub/release-0/materials/whitepaper#a-ames-networking
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu their bastard 'v' : http://happut-fopnys.urbit.org/home/tree/pub/release-0/materials/whitepaper#c-clay-filesystem
assbot: Tree ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mmg4nc )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: '%g is the application system, currently %gall (1300 lines) %gall is half process table and half systemd, sort of.' << satan preserve us. ☟︎
ascii_field: 'With this mechanism, Urbit can update a distributed system (such as our own :talk network), upgrading both applications and protocols, silently without user intervention or notification. ' << itching to try this yet ?
ascii_field: 'A sufficiently smart optimizer doesn't need to optimize every Nock formula that could calculate a decrement function. It only needs to optimize one: the one we actually run. The only one we run is the one compiled from the decrement function ++dec in the Hoon standard library. So there's no sense in which our sufficiently smart optimizer needs to analyze Nock formulas to see if they're decrement formulas. It only needs
ascii_field: to recognize the standard ++dec.' << ahahahahaha. ☟︎
ascii_field: same old.
ascii_field: '... And jets do not have to be correlated with built-in or low-level functionality; for instance, Urbit has a markdown parser jet.'
ascii_field: srsly??!!!
ascii_field: 'let's run same old idiot c-machine but with sprinkle of haskell on top for flavour'
ascii_field: 'galaxy, star, planet, moon, comet' << glorious. they retired the naval org chart (before that, prior to mr mold selling out to usg, it was feudal titles of nobility - as in my former 'dukedom') ☟︎
ascii_field: i suppose destroyers and frigates were too right-wing yet, for the new mr mold
ascii_field: somehow it has to be more 'neutral flavour' while yet more megalomaniacal. hence stellar objects.
ascii_field: ok this is precious,
ascii_field: 'Broadly, the design difference between Urbit and a blockchain network is that blockchains are "trust superconductors" - they eliminate any dependency on social, political or economic trust. Urbit is a "trust conductor" - engineered to minimize, but not eliminate, dependencies on trust.' ☟︎
ascii_field: 'For instance, bitcoin prevents double-spending with global mining costs in multiple dollars per transaction (as of 2015). Trusted transaction intermediation is an easily implemented service whose cost is a tiny fraction of this. And the transaction velocity of money is high; transactions in land are far more rare.'
ascii_field has had enough for one sitting.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: don't want you to have a stroke now...
ascii_field: i just think it is grimly hilarious how everything we've spoken of here ~will~ be implemented in bastardized usg versions ☟︎
ascii_field: because usg has the means to feed full-time programmers, and we do not. ☟︎
ascii_field: 'In February 2003, the FBI assigned a team of FBI personnel --- "Team 10" -- to work full-time at the NSA to manage the FBI's participation in the program. Team 10's primary responsiblity was to disseminate PSP information through [censored] ECs to FBI field offices for investigative or other purposes. However, over time, Team 10 began to participate in the PSP in other ways. For example, Team 10 occasionally submitted
ascii_field: telephone numbers and Internet communications addresses to the NSA to be searched against the bulk metadata collected under the PSP...'
ascii_field: ^ l0ltr0nic
ascii_field: (from earlier link, https://cryptome.org/2015/09/nsa-stellarwind-ig-nyt-15-0919.pdf -- official release! the parallel construction thing is not even an official secret any longer.)
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00075235 = 17.0407 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [Qntra] Bet Over Ethereum's Survival Rockets Past 100 BTC in Wagers - http://qntra.net/2015/09/bet-over-ethereums-survival-rockets-past-100-btc-in-wagers/
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: Etheruem ?
BingoBoingo: fuck
BingoBoingo: How is it actually spelled?
ascii_field: like in the title iirc
BingoBoingo: fixed
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
shinohai: !s https://medium.com/quantum-bits/break-rsa-encryption-with-this-one-weird-trick-d955e3394870
assbot: Break RSA encryption with this one weird trick — Quantum Bits — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1PkJZwA )
assbot: 0 results for 'https://medium.com/quantum-bits/break-rsa-encryption-with-this-one-weird-trick-d955e3394870' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Fquantum-bits%2Fbreak-rsa-encryption-with-this-one-weird-trick-d955e3394870
ascii_field: shor is old nyoo
ascii_field: z
ascii_field: go, build.
shinohai: I found it to be a mealy-mouth article. Was wondering if it had been discussed and I missed those bits.
ascii_field: !s rsa pill
assbot: 9 results for 'rsa pill' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rsa+pill
ascii_field: ^ see logz
ascii_field: phun phakt: it is not a proven fact that the difficulty of the rsa problem as such is equivalent to that of factoring. ☟︎
ascii_field: merely conjecture.
BingoBoingo: Oh https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3ltxhd/bet_over_ethereums_survival_rockets_past_100_btc/
assbot: Bet Over Ethereum's Survival Rockets Past 100 BTC in Wagers : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1PkLnzs )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00074013 = 13.5444 BTC [-]
shinohai: ^ kek
shinohai: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00074013 = 3.3306 BTC [-]
phf: it's interesting to see how fast urbit "turned" both politically and on technical questions. markdown jet? choosing markdown is a copout in itself (there's a naggum rant where he says that plaintext markup languages are designed by people who don't understand NLP), but why would you outsource something so traditional as a text blob parser? seems like an opportunity to showcase your language's text manipulation facilities, etc.
ascii_field: i am not sure about the political, but on technical questions it was DOA
ascii_field: (mr mold's 2010 notes are still up, http://moronlab.blogspot.com - decide for yourself)
assbot: Moron Lab ... ( http://bit.ly/1YvZesU )
phf: on technical merits i thought it was kind of like if evola fans started writing their own operating system in INTERCAL (with apologies to don woods) hosted on top of brainfuck vm, a dadaist project where impracticality and absurd were the main driving force behind decisions. the reality turned out to be a lot more banal
ascii_field: not far from the facts though. ☟︎
ascii_field: i followed the project for years largely on account of NOBODY-else-is-pissing-on-backwards-compat
HeySteve: BingoBoingo, you're going to make Gavin and Mike cry with articles like that
phf: i guess that's why dadaist groups all have long history of denouncement, usually ending with the original founder remaining. otherwise you always have some entrenched fuck proposing a markdown jet, because useful and doesn't hurt and shrug. but when it's the founder itself.. ☟︎
phf: *the only member remaining
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00075136 = 22.8413 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13994 @ 0.00074013 = 10.3574 BTC [-]
lobbes: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26094 @ 0.00073588 = 19.2021 BTC [-]
jurov: !up King_Rex
jurov throws ein kaiser mit schinken
phf: ascii_field: what'd you think of quality of lisp in "land of lisp"?
ascii_field: good book for a kid
phf: i did technical review for it, which was pretty stressful. barsky is a poliglot and writes with a lot of grahamisms, so i rewrote a lot of bits to make them more "common lisp", though i don't think i fully reached that goal
ascii_field: it is a spiffy book
phf: yeah, we bonded over the need for more books that are kind of like "writing games in basic" on one hand, but use sensible technologies
phf: fits in head™
lobbes: !up ascii_field
lobbes: jurov throws ein kaiser mit schinke << kein Käse?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14521 @ 0.00073933 = 10.7358 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> BingoBoingo, you're going to make Gavin and Mike cry with articles like that << Thank you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29051 @ 0.00075202 = 21.8469 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: Rex mag kein Käse.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00075165 = 16.6115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16739 @ 0.0007404 = 12.3936 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up King_Rex
BingoBoingo: !Up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25011 @ 0.00073705 = 18.4344 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Lol ascii_field USG has its own pogo now too https://archive.is/zDd5y
assbot: 21 Inc Announces 'Bitcoin Computer' for Developers ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wec5hk )
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: they had a shitpogo earlier
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: This is a newer stinkier shit pogo
BingoBoingo: Difference appears to be mouse shit versus moose shit
ascii_field: these are the 'buy light bulbs that mine for usg' log-reader folks aren't they. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: "The product will include a Wi-Fi adapter, RPi 2, power supply, USB-to-laptop cable and 128GB SD card, and come equipped with a "factory-installed" copy of the blockchain. It is not known how much hashing power the miner generates."
BingoBoingo: Yes
BingoBoingo: "The reason you can do these things so quickly is because the 21 Bitcoin Computer includes a built-in 21 mining chip (so you can easily buy things for bitcoin)"
ascii_field: all hail the gavincoin asics
ascii_field: includes hearniated client for phree!
BingoBoingo: "factory-isntall"Chain
ascii_field: aha. how else.
BingoBoingo: The 128 GB SD card is prolly not going to last that long
jurov: they are never going to fully validate blockchain on SD card ☟︎
jurov: not even 1M one
ascii_field: who said anything about validation
ascii_field: or rather, 'validation' to these folks means something quite else
BingoBoingo: No need to validate, Factory installed
ascii_field: 'zap terrorist transactions'
BingoBoingo: !up psztorc
BingoBoingo: !up ShawnLeary
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
thestringpuller: ascii_field: https://21.co/ << prepare to have seizure
thestringpuller: oh you are lolling over it already
ascii_field: looks like a snorefest so far
thestringpuller: all this VC money is just being flushed down the toilet
thestringpuller: You'd be better off wiping your ass with alpaca socks than buying into this nonsense.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: this is just usg's answer to 'china refuses to mine gavincoin or run hearnia client'
shinohai: So what does that thing do that a pogo can't ?
ascii_field: take compulsory remote updates from usg ?
shinohai: hue
ascii_field: mine a satoshi a day so redditard can feel l337 ? ☟︎
thestringpuller: ascii_field: take compulsory remote updates from usg ? << srsly. it's backed by Cisco aka Spookware Incorporated.
thestringpuller: Who could ever trust this device...
ascii_field: 'Yes, you can indeed make a profit with the 21 Bitcoin Computer. However, you would do so not by directly selling bitcoin, but by selling digital goods for bitcoin. That is, you are not going to get rich by immediately selling the bitcoin mined by the device for offline currency, but you can potentially do very well by selling digital goods and services to others for their bitcoin. ' << hilarious. worth a read, for the lulz
phf: it's got an obligatory "connected to macbook pro" picture for one
ascii_field: 'you can make a profit but you would not do so by making a profit' ☟︎
ascii_field: 'your margins on bitcoin earned by selling digital goods and services with the 21 Bitcoin Computer are likely going to be much better than your margins from bitcoin mined with the 21 Bitcoin Computer. That is because the 21 Bitcoin Computer allows you to use bitcoin as a true digital currency for taking worldwide payment for your APIs. The mined bitcoin just provides continuous liquidity into the system. '
shinohai: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058 <<< TradeFortress banned for mentioning theymos' dox ?
assbot: View the profile of Tf | Banned for mentioning theymo.s dox ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wedep1 )
ascii_field: i lack the lsd to properly grasp what is being spoken of here.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: they are trying to use mining as a way to hedge your investment by giving you access to inflation as you sell shit for btc.
shinohai: How is that thing going to mine ANY appreciable mount of btc
thestringpuller: I'm pretty sure ASICminer tried this with the USB miners ☟︎
phf: ascii_field: i think it's just written for "guy on a street" layman. "no you can't mine bitcoins anymore, because it's totally unprofitable without a giant asic farm, but you can use this thing to buy and sell bitcoins"
shinohai: Like, you know, a *regular bitcoin client*
ascii_field: at the upper end of the claimed hash rate, and supposing phree mains current, the thing will mine, at TODAY's difficulty.... 0.0012 btc/day. ☟︎
phf: i.e. target audience is rpi crowd with no unix, bitcoin, etc. experience. see also "maker" thread
thestringpuller: yea. so you get 0.0012 btc/day, and while you sell shit with the computer it kinda buffers it.
thestringpuller: basically they are hedging on you selling shit for btc to make it pay for the computer which is fucktarded.
ascii_field: even for a scam, this stretches the bounds of the plausible
thestringpuller: no point in including an asic
ascii_field: sell ~what~ with it
thestringpuller: Your API's man!
ascii_field: and what happened to the fucking light bulb
ascii_field: now ~that~ was a quality chumpatron
thestringpuller: So you can post naked pix to instagram through snapchat using twitter and facebook
thestringpuller: and you get paid in BTC for letting people access it! ☟︎
thestringpuller: REVOLUTIONARY MAN
thestringpuller: you just don't understand innovation ascii_field
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3lucwl/21co_website_has_just_been_updated_introducing/cv9do2i
assbot: Naviers_Stoked comments on 21.co website has just been updated: "Introducing the first bitcoin computer" ... ( http://bit.ly/1OM0Iek )
ascii_field: if any of you lot have the time and energy, buy one of these things & reverse it ☟︎
ascii_field: the hidden functionality of this thing ought to be an entertaining lulzmine
phf: ascii_field: you're too sane, to comprehend this madness. the way stupid thinks in this case, "want to sell bitcoin device, can't really make pogo, because no "value add", so must add some hardware to make it seem like useful hardware." of course they don't have enough sense to say add a ecc sig verifier asic, so add probably stolen miner asic code, which is not going to mine anything for anybody, hence the dodgy justification code.
phf: *justification text
trinque: that's a raspberry pi
ascii_field: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91aUgUqFTIL._SL1500_.jpg << daughterboard separate. middle of photo
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OM1c3U )
ascii_field: presumably - the miner.
trinque: yup
trinque: raised 121.1M according to crunchbase
ascii_field: apparently they have a bastardized wot as well. ☟︎
trinque: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014RD021C << vendor page. ☟︎
assbot: Amazon.com: The 21 Bitcoin Computer ... ( http://bit.ly/1OM1qrM )
cazalla: FAQ sorta conflicts with the idea of making money with this thing by selling goods.. "we think payment in BTC is not as big an improvement at the present time over standard ways to purchase macroscopic physical goods."
ascii_field: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/vince/boost/detailpages/21inc6._SR1000,750_.jpg << knockoff of 'otc', sort-of.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeeAjx )
phf: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/vince/boost/detailpages/21inc3b.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeeI2C )
thestringpuller: 125mn for this piece of shit?
thestringpuller: 125mn invested to produce this piece of shit*
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281194 <<< comes preloaded on sdcard ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 20:24:53; jurov: they are never going to fully validate blockchain on SD card
phf: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/vince/boost/detailpages/21inc8d._SR1062,670_.jpg << note that the tag on asic seems to be blurred, compared to very readable labels all around it
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OM1Sq1 )
mike_c: they're pushing micropayments, not buy a $400 hunk of silicon.
ascii_field: mike_c: also pushing a usgized wot knockoff
ascii_field: and otc knockoff
mike_c: yeah.. the whole "not a mining pool" thing is weird
ascii_field: incidentally, i would not be the least bit astonished if the miner die contains a second, inactive circuit for an alternative workfunction
ascii_field: when usgcoin proper comes online.
ascii_field: the laughable hash rate will not matter ~then~.
mike_c: what was it, 140 ghs?
mike_c: ah, 50-125
mike_c: quite a range
ascii_field: aha, from reject pile at ft meade
ascii_field: (what commercial chip do you know of that sells as a ~range~ of possible performance ??!!) ☟︎
ascii_field: so, to round off this hypothesis,
mike_c: maybe it's power dependant?
ascii_field: thing has an antifuse bridge inside
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.0007392 = 23.9501 BTC [+]
ascii_field: that will be blown by a future 'mandatory update'
mike_c: x volts = 50, y volts = 125?
ascii_field: permanently turning it into a usgcoin miner.
ascii_field: (useless for any other purpose, and, importantly, specifically nonfunctional for conventional bitcoin)
ascii_field: this will be hailed as a great leap forward by the redditard crowd, because difficulty in this altcoin will initially be very low, making their 50-125 appear to 'count for something'
mike_c: well, can't say that i'll be blowing 2 btc on it any time soon.
ascii_field: if my hypothesis is correct AND the makers have half a brain, there is nothing to be learned from buying the board presently. unless you have access to electron microscope.
mike_c: weren't you building one of those in your garage?
ascii_field: nope
ascii_field: i don't even have a garage.
mike_c: ah, first the pick and place, then the electron microscope :)
cazalla: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/09/21/21-inc-releases-first-product-a-bitcoin-computer/ "Mr. Horowitz compared the potential of this computer to early web browsers and his time helping build Netscape back in the 1990s."
assbot: 21 Inc. Releases First Product, a ‘Bitcoin Computer’ - MoneyBeat - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1OM3hgp )
ascii_field: cazalla: see log
cazalla: posted link as it contains some quotes, that's all
phf: (usg agents reading the logs, "ascii always have some good ideas for us")
trinque: "If I find fifty righteous people in Silicon Valley, I will spare the whole place for their sake."
ascii_field: phf: the light bulb miner iirc was suggested here.
mike_c: speaking of new hardware, how goes routing ascii_field?
cazalla: not to mention the fact bitbeat has been used to push all manner of scams
ascii_field: mike_c: very very slowly.
BingoBoingo: 63 GH/s and $56 https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020141017110427977rQGR3pcf06BE
assbot: BITMAIN ... ( http://bit.ly/1OM3FLN )
mike_c: ugh. maybe you should get a 21 and pay someone else to do it with your constant stream of bitcoin.
ascii_field: mike_c: typically i leave the thing grinding before going off to the minez and check on it in the evening.
ascii_field: very 1970s/batch-processy.
mike_c: heh. so it's mostly auto-routing?
ascii_field: 'auto' would be a lie. but nominally, yes.
ascii_field: phf et al: from my (admittedly very distant) perch, my understanding of usg's engineering problem is as follows
ascii_field: breaks into two parts: 1) create properly usgistic altcoin
ascii_field: 2) siphon the value and ultimately move the nash equilibrium from honest bitcoin to (1) ☟︎
ascii_field: the hard part is (2).
ascii_field: although i can easily imagine there being some disagreement among hitler's minions about the exact shape (1) ought to take
ascii_field: it is the siphoning that is the tricky bit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00075234 = 17.5671 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17820 @ 0.00075234 = 13.4067 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00075235 = 16.5517 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/09/21/17c9a4a078351735389d797dcf5b23f6.jpg
phf: ascii_field: aha
phf: BingoBoingo: all the fat whites that i've seen in turkey were american, literally every one of them would start speaking english at some point while we were watching. in fact approaching u.s. the number and variety of fat people increased dramatically up to the philadelphia saturation levels
BingoBoingo: phf: By Philadelphia saturation levels I assume you are referring to the "cream cheese" which helps them bulk to their size?
phf: philly cheese stake and microbrew beer culture
BingoBoingo: Ah
phf: i live in the area with apparently "highest number of lesbians after san francisco", so lots and lots and lots plus sized sjw types ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I see. That must be rough.
phf: mostly amusing, at the local coworking i've probably seen all the stereotypes in flesh. girls with social sciences ph.d. doing research projects, guys pushing feminist rhetoric in every conversation, black transgender talking about white oppression, all manner of "you can do anything" mentality. it's like irl tumblr out there ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141100 @ 0.00075364 = 106.3386 BTC [+] {6}
BingoBoingo: fuck
BingoBoingo: So reading about how USG wants to expand VW's sphincter I can across this enviroscam for the first time http://www.volvotrucks.com/trucks/australia-market/en-au/trucks/environment/Emissions_technology/AdBlue/questions_answers/Pages/question6.aspx
assbot: question6 - Q&A : Volvo Trucks - Australia ... ( http://bit.ly/1YwueZN )
phf: there's an organic food coop here, with stereotypes buying groceries from stereotypes selling it. you'd have a field day
BingoBoingo: "If the AdBlue tank is not topped up at this point – we recommend a minimum top up of at least 3 litres - the ‘Refill AdBlue No start in XXX miles’ message will appear. You will be able to drive the distance shown but you will subsequently be unable to start the engine." >> http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkingdom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/passengercars/home/corporate_sales0/fleet-after-sales/you
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YwuwzD )
BingoBoingo: -and-adblue.html
BingoBoingo: lol phf
phf: ooh ooh, a chubby english major, who's a perpetually broke works random jobs, but aspires to be a singer, but nobody has a heart to tell her that she's not very good
cazalla: phf, she wouldn't believe them anyway eh
BingoBoingo: Yeah, or write it off as oppreshun because people don't understand her condishuns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15933 @ 0.0007529 = 11.996 BTC [-]
phf: there's an organic food place here, ran by, i'm pretty convinced of that, former MOVE hangerons. black folk be talking about prana, and the power of positive thinking, that REALLY WORKS man. typical cliental involves angry black woman talking about taking her daughter to africa and how refreshing it was without all the white folk looking down on you ☟︎
phf: i'm not paraphrasing the last bit by the way
phf: there's a coop yoga place, that designed "as a sort of community wellness center", good thing that the owner owns the building too, because they can't seem to quite break even, and periodically have strategic brainstorm sessions about how to make money
BingoBoingo: lol
phf: could make a portlandia show about west philadelphia, if it wasn't all so derivative already
BingoBoingo: It's amazing how much failure gets passed along as "progress" in USistan
BingoBoingo: From the geniuses of Reddit https://i.imgur.com/pe5i8Mb.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YwvPP6 )
cazalla: thanks for ruining my morning cuppa BingoBoingo
phf: and here i am being upset that you can't find a bidet anywhere in u.s. except for muslim neighbourhoods
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00075488 = 5.0577 BTC [+] {3}
phf: would probably also solve problems of the creatures in that reddit thread
BingoBoingo: seriously
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40211 @ 0.0007529 = 30.2749 BTC [-]
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b23
lobbes: 'I'm going to try this. I've been pooping in the shower for years...' << lmao. I don't envy the plumber that finally gets called to snake that drain
deedbot-: [Qntra] Pirateat40 Pleads Guilty To Securities Fraud - http://qntra.net/2015/09/pirateat40-pleads-guilty-to-securities-fraud/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10071 @ 0.00075417 = 7.5952 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform unrelatred items.
mircea_popescu: hory shit 130 eth bet.
BingoBoingo still astounded that if one wants a new diesel vehicle thanks to the EU it will refuse to run if you don't fill up a second tank with pisstein (urea) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol srsly ?
BingoBoingo: Government Motors kills people with flimsy ignition locks and VW decides their smallest car is fine without pisstank, yet VW is the bigger villain
BingoBoingo: srsly
BingoBoingo: they call the shit "adblue" 35% urea in aqueaous solution. Gets pissed into the exhaust stream
mircea_popescu: but... why ?
BingoBoingo: Because of Nitrogen oxides
mircea_popescu: lol im sure the "blue" is purely concindental. not like trying to pretend it's not piss. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: oh.
BingoBoingo: Because instead of letting efficient diesels with their turbos and insane compression produce a bit more oxidized nitrogen, make them emulate naturally aspirated gasoline vehicle
mircea_popescu: bureaucracy at work. "one thing got away and all other things got to be that thing now. because easier to have a central exception"
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamentally centralizing nature of bureaucracy. "gotta have one king, and preferably he be dead."
BingoBoingo: Because why accept engineering compromises when you can instead invent a tank that pisses into the exhaust and feed monsanto more bezzel
punkman: why don't they have a piss-funnel for the driver? fill it up during the 8 hours of commuting.
BingoBoingo remebers there supposedly being a piss backed atlcoin advertised on bitcointalk at one point
BingoBoingo: <punkman> why don't they have a piss-funnel for the driver? fill it up during the 8 hours of commuting. << Biologic piss isn't good enough. Need special monsanto pure piss.
punkman: http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2015/09/20/bourne-aesthetic/
assbot: The Bourne Aesthetic – blarg? ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlKktU )
mircea_popescu: but you could add a gas cromatograph in the exhaust, diagnose driver's odds of getting kidney stones
mircea_popescu: while he waits in traffic.
BingoBoingo: lol
shinohai: BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.0 ?
assbot: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlKlhp )
BingoBoingo: Well, now diesel exhaust contains ammonia, because THAT is SO MUCH BETTER than NOx
BingoBoingo: shinohai: That one
shinohai: That one gave me quite a few lolz
phf: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mihaib/kernighan-interview/
assbot: An Interview with Brian Kernighan ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlKy45 )
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPXUG8q4jKU "I dont wanna live in a city where a rat cant drag a hard-earned slice of pizza down a subway staircase without being tormented by the media"
assbot: New York City rat taking pizza home on the subway - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlLwgR )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0007392 = 4.1395 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i cant even.
mircea_popescu: "No, you pedo-peso hoarding little shit lizard. One of your sociopathic free-market libertarian brethren took it upon themselves to threaten a real person and people around them in their place of work making them genuinely fearful."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what the ever living fuck.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is stolfi and who the fuck cares about his bizarro cover-up for his own retirement.
mircea_popescu: guy got bored of being stupid, i get it, no need to pretend like HORRIBRU FORCES AFOOT.
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: anyway. if this works so well, i guess we need to sean more of sa then ?
mircea_popescu: put the fear of god into them, as that guy said.
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/eTq1K because lulz.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbUhiH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00073675 = 8.4358 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: (that guy, J.E. Freeman)
mircea_popescu: btw, asciilifeform you know who invented "teledildonics" rite ?
asciilifeform: nope
mircea_popescu: "HTML is precisely what we were trying to PREVENT" guy.
mircea_popescu: ted nelson.
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: he's right, too. it is.
asciilifeform owns pretty much the whole of nelson's collected output, on dead tree
asciilifeform still working his way through it, sporadically
mircea_popescu: (not for the reason he cites, or at least not exactly, he fails to understand the deep rpoblems with "rights management", (which are what "version management" is in an edulcorated form)
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, yes, link rot and no bijection. who the fuck wants this piece of shit.
mircea_popescu: hint : the "expectations" about "what the internet is" which were build in the 90s by people about as informed or inclined to think as the current "blockchain technologies" crowd, are predicated on a MAXIMAL EXTENSION of an optimal ideal nelsonian network.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25901 @ 0.00074452 = 19.2838 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: they have zit to do with the html&javascript internet of today.
BingoBoingo: That Lopp fellow shilling for 21 nao
asciilifeform: the micropayment thing has to be taken in context. it was 1960s and his vision was arguably an improvement of 'if you want to make money from thinking, have a job in usg academia'
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/8Wb1W
assbot: The 21 Bitcoin Computer : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbViaw )
asciilifeform: *improvement over
mircea_popescu: all that shit re culture and whatnot, all the pretense of wikipedia to relevance, the whole kaboodle : an overstated maximal output of an optimistic evaluation of a technological base that a) never actually existed in fact and b) has meanwhile been substituted by a provably worse alternative IN ALL THE POINTS
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo he was always 21 "evanghelism" afaik.
asciilifeform: the other thing that folks often forget is that neither nelson nor anybody else seriously expected illiterate derps to get their hands on the machines
BingoBoingo: Ah
mircea_popescu: this is how vc circus works, spend 10-20mn on "a venture", part of which goes to "a respectable voice" etc.
asciilifeform: any more than schoolchildren are given bulldozers to play with
mircea_popescu: in the 60s ?
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: in the 60s they didn't even realise their own children will be marrying into illiterate for lack of alternative.
asciilifeform: 'computer' had stopped being a job title, but was still very much a ~place~
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid, the #1 question hopeful spouse had to handle with the fambly was "are they smart enough"
mircea_popescu: us forgot this somehoiw.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck said "honey, she's too dumb for you and her house smells of poor people" the past decade.
asciilifeform: afaik this is still very much a thing in usa
mircea_popescu: ("smells of poor people" is in no small part ABSENCE. "intellectuals" are used to the mild allergenic reaction of paper dust mites + old ink smell in trace amounts. because 5k books around.)
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: to the point that if i travel for week+ and come home, it knocks me over nearly
mircea_popescu doesn't keep books anymore
asciilifeform: they didn't fit into the space capsule aha
gernika: My encyclopedia britannica smelled - not good
gernika: used to it now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i took a gamble of sorts. it kinda worked.
phf: man can't keep up with that guy, first email, now books
asciilifeform: gernika: what vintage ?
mircea_popescu: what guy ?
phf: you
asciilifeform: gernika: i have a 1958 one, smells great
mircea_popescu: lol.
shinohai: Sent 20 emails out today regarding your art commission, get one chick to reply 10 minutes ago. I gave her a link to chat.
mircea_popescu: hey, i count it like giving up drinking.
mircea_popescu: i don't aim to defend it.
gernika: asciilifeform: 1958 - complete with class schedule of a junior high student from 1969.
asciilifeform: gernika: we might disagree on what means 'smells great'
gernika: asciilifeform: it's a slightly chemical smell - perhaps ammoniaish?
asciilifeform: gernika: not in mine (as far as naked nose can tell) - oddly enough
asciilifeform: other than possibly on the colour plates.
mircea_popescu: ahahahaah alf has a nose cosy ?
asciilifeform: cosy ?
mircea_popescu: o you dunno what a cosy is ?
asciilifeform: just now saw it for the first time
asciilifeform: apparently a kind of sock ?
mircea_popescu: it's a great thing. the main by-product of the knitting culture. little clothes made to measure by bored old women for things like teapots.
asciilifeform does not own a knitted cone (or any other kind) to wear on the nose...
mircea_popescu: it has all the symptoms of childrearing apparatus gone berserk.
asciilifeform: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/21inc << l0l
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbWoTx )
asciilifeform: and here i was thinking that hearncoin was through
mircea_popescu: so dumbass "political campaign" for some twerp here tried to have a huge rally (which is how i woke up, fucking drummers). but it's been raining, and nobody gives a shit about their crap, so they took refuge under a huge awning and there they've been, playing this inept 2 minute political soundclip (lo que la gente quiere, blabla fuckhead rodrgues) etc. this for a while, until
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> those fuckers. NOBODY FUCKING QUIERES.
mircea_popescu: *hanbot* i'm dressing.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> huh ?
mircea_popescu: *hanbot* i am going out there to tell them to shut the fuck up.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> this i gotta see.
mircea_popescu: so she went down there and they stopped. and then... were quiet for like... ten minutes.
mircea_popescu: then they started again
mircea_popescu: for maybe five minutes. and then left.
mircea_popescu: let it never be said that woman can not break things. woman can break men's spirit, and that's major.
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: she fucking shoo'd a political campaign away from the fucking downtown landmark!
mircea_popescu: valkyrie on a stick.
mircea_popescu: i gotta teach her how to work the backpack flamethrower.
hanbot: ^ yes please.
mircea_popescu: lmao. remember that monthy python supermarket scene ?
mircea_popescu: woman buys flamethrower ?
hanbot: i've got a fever, and the only prescription is moar dakka.
mircea_popescu: haha
cazalla: asciilifeform, same seller you have mentioned from time to time? http://kremlin.enterprises/post/129364443055/your-code-is-so-bad-we-had-to-make-etclocal
assbot: your code is so bad we had to make /etc/local/... - kremlin_t ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbX7UP )
punkman: http://xm42.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/EASDFS3.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbX778 )
mircea_popescu: punkman nah that's mickey mouse.
mircea_popescu: golden standard is this ru 8 gallon pre-pressured mix thing
asciilifeform: cazalla: looks like dks's house, aha
asciilifeform: cazalla: (a few photos in)
asciilifeform: cazalla: i have the 3620 (first photo)
phf: above is just a portable propane poofer, which is a sort of rite of passage for construction among burning man steel&propane crowd