tmsr - Log 2016-07-22

asciilifeform: phf: https://sli.mg/a/iDZnCf (via your link) quite a thing of beauty.

asciilifeform: https://i.sli.mg/M9tf78.jpg << mega-relay!

asciilifeform: i wish to move to the planet where ~that~ : https://i.sli.mg/ikoT6o.jpg is how one is introduced to 'the computer' ☟︎

asciilifeform: and where 'the computer' is what we see in this www.

asciilifeform: recommended prOn, to all here.

asciilifeform: https://i.sli.mg/BzdQZa.jpg << motherfucking firmware ON PAPER TAPE, you can READ it

asciilifeform: whole lost WORLD of sanity.

asciilifeform: phf: log dead?

asciilifeform: trbbot?

asciilifeform: what did i miss?

shinohai: nothing yet, i decided to have a bot sit in here and lawg since a111 dies so much

shinohai looks at phf >.>

phf: hmm, yeah will fix

phf: it basically just disconnects and doesn't reconnect. provides for some diversion

mats: acog was great for observation the few times I used it -- better for officers

mats: never got to try an eotech, my unit wasn't high speed enough

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> then he can be 'whole' << This actually is a thing. There is 0 lower bound to idiocy.

BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/v7bIi2.png << Do not allow near pdp-11

BingoBoingo: Phun Phact: The "Tree" that grew in Brooklyn was a monster https://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/aial1.htm

mats: fwiw, i don't believe the radio in the iphone has dma

mats: based on some teardowns it appears the ram is in package with main cpu

mats: and based on wut an acquaintance is saying (my knowledge of hw is shallow), it'd be impractical to route the bus to the radio

mats: spi would be the ticket ☟︎

deedbot: [Qntra] "Crypto Coin Wallet Card" Physical Bitcoins Were A Scam - http://qntra.net/2016/07/crypto-coin-wallet-card-physical-bitcoins-were-a-scam/

thestringpuller: ;;later tell http://ix.io/16ii

gribble: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. ☟︎

thestringpuller: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/16ii ☟︎

gribble: The operation succeeded.

deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.141.150.121 (ssh-rsa key from 94.141.150.121 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for P

BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: up, edited, ty

deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.229.251.116 (ssh-rsa key from 91.229.251.116 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for P

deedbot: [Qntra] Coinbase Embraces Ether As Venture Continues Running On Fumes - http://qntra.net/2016/07/coinbase-embraces-ether-as-venture-continues-running-on-fumes/

shinohai: gm #trilema

BingoBoingo: morning ☟︎

deedbot: [Qntra] Trendon Shavers Sentenced - http://qntra.net/2016/07/trendon-shavers-sentenced/

shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/16iR

gribble: The operation succeeded.

BingoBoingo: ty

shinohai: o/

deedbot: [Qntra] Seafile Cloud Storage Forks - http://qntra.net/2016/07/seafile-cloud-storage-forks/

BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 660.04, vol: 3042.50109346 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 653.301, vol: 3899.55499 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 661.0, vol: 10753.59667482 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 660.913106, vol: 88673.86230000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 660.236, vol: 959.85557494 | Volume-weighted last average: 660.614438891

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508507 << the problem with americans, by which we denote obscure people from the colonies with no history or identity of their own, is that if something becomes desirable they'll just copy it. "as best they can", "with locally sourced items". hence the mormon shredding of the hebrew texts and jordan pearson. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 23:11 phf: instead of investigating this mysterious zip, i spent time reading jordan pearson's twitter. he's special, he's like the worst parody of a 2016 American Nerd

mircea_popescu: $up ghtdak

deedbot: ghtdak voiced for 30 minutes.

mircea_popescu: of course, it cuts both ways. some people like the indigent simplicity (see, eg, babbage).

mircea_popescu: it all depends if there exists a superior power (france, england, etc) for them to copy or not.

mircea_popescu: in a very important sense, "don't blame the parrots if the sermon's bad"

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508508 << how about it phf, see the merit of having a111 archive.is every link it sees, downloading the zip and then presenting a [cached] [saved] pair of links after the line ? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 23:13 phf: http://motherboard-images.vice.com/authors/no-id/1459351347926622.jpg

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508513 << the very wooden acting kinda ruins it for me. why can't these people just you know, write their story ? gotta do it for camera, but that's hard and they have no camera faces nor acting talent. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 23:14 ben_vulpes: which features a character mircea_popescu may find amusing, the slut with an entire rural town wrapped around her finger

mircea_popescu: there's this misperception that "people wouldn't read, they prefer to watch video". it's a misperception for many reasons, but obvious here : those people AREN'T WATCHING VIDEO, EITHER.

mircea_popescu: yes they show a marked preference to drooling in front of flickering monitor than empty book. but this is like saying cats prefer the christian science monitor over the new yorker. to what, to piss on ?

mircea_popescu: if ye got a story to tell and ye can't draw, don't make a "stick figure cartoon", write it. if ye got a story to tell and ye can't act, don't make a youtube of it. WRITE IT.

mircea_popescu: fcking basic literacy vs all the ustardians hellbent on being so fucking emospecial they need "symbols" and other illiterate obscura to "express themselves".

mircea_popescu: guess what - whenever the problem of expression seems to be resolvable by chucking the alphabet, the problem's not of expression.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508521 << i don't. "copyright dec blabla 1970" ruins it for me. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 00:56 asciilifeform: i wish to move to the planet where ~that~ : https://i.sli.mg/ikoT6o.jpg is how one is introduced to 'the computer'

thestringpuller: Oh God. I can't stop the huffing.

thestringpuller: I told someone this mornign as they walked in "Do not huff any ether no matter how compelling" ☟︎

thestringpuller: Coworker is like "Are these cheap like when bitcoin was cheap? How much are these ether tokens?" Me: "I just said not to huff the ether!!!!!"

mircea_popescu: apparently they take what you say as an inverses signal.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508541 << the dma thing is mostly a sufferance of the desktop designs yea ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 06:48 mats: fwiw, i don't believe the radio in the iphone has dma

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "it will be forking it's code"

mircea_popescu: also paging shinohai. repeat after me, you! "it's raining, it's entertaining, its butt's lost retaining". ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508583 << the sov version had no such ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 12:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508521 << i don't. "copyright dec blabla 1970" ruins it for me.

asciilifeform: srsly focusing on the dust spec on the pr0n gurl

mircea_popescu: it's what i do/did.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508589 << this is false, ~all recent embedded boxes also have it. esp. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 12:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508541 << the dma thing is mostly a sufferance of the desktop designs yea

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508544 << mno. spi tops out at 1-2MB/s. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 06:52 mats: spi would be the ticket

mircea_popescu remembers this epic one time when dude filmed half a set with a cum dribble on his lens.

asciilifeform: lel

mircea_popescu: wtf is that you moron!

mircea_popescu: that's...uh.... mmmm....

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you think the iphone yet exists that has 1mb worth of data anyone'd care to exfiltrate ?!

shinohai: lulzy mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/07/seafile-cloud-storage-forks/#comment-64913

mircea_popescu: or what, they're importing 800mb of gui for the rootkit ?

thestringpuller: $s why is dma bad

a111: 1 results for "why is dma bad", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=why%20is%20dma%20bad

mircea_popescu: shinohai :[

mircea_popescu: :p i mean

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thread was about how the radio is connected to cpu.

asciilifeform: it is not difficult to infer how it is NOT connected, because you can pick up the device and measure top bandwidth quite easily with bare hands

mircea_popescu: yes. but for the purpose of owning it no ?

asciilifeform: for the purpose of ~how is it connected??~

mircea_popescu: aok.

mircea_popescu: i thought the idea was someone will hack into your thing via radio.

asciilifeform: (which in turn is interesting because ~is it on the same bus as other periphs~)

asciilifeform: e.g., what privileges does the radio have, to put in software parlance

asciilifeform: what can you do to the rest of the box from it

asciilifeform: ;;later tell trinque what happened here ? http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508550 <<>> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508553 ? this is not the first time, either. i checked my rss feed, it does not shit out dupes. ☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 10:37 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.141.150.121 (ssh-rsa key from 94.141.15

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 10:29 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.141.150.121 (ssh-rsa key from 94.141.15

gribble: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: incidentally this is the first, iirc, long factor sshkey collision to pop.

asciilifeform: 91.229.251.116 and 94.141.150.121

mircea_popescu: what, the others were short ?

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "it will be forking it's code" << fxd

mircea_popescu: ty.

asciilifeform: 'University of Technology and Agriculture in Bydgoszcz'

asciilifeform: poland.

asciilifeform: jesce polska nie zginela!

mircea_popescu: lol.

mircea_popescu: someone plox write the fellows a nice email, explain what happened and ask them to send a copy of the item that generated keys ?

asciilifeform: sounds like a job for mircea_popescu ?

asciilifeform: (to date, nobody answered when asciilifeform wrote. perhaps he lives under a curse)

mircea_popescu: why for me! so we keep having these "how do build dirigible" threads weekly, while we patently ignore what the fellow who built the trope name has to say about the process ?

asciilifeform: only so that possibly somebody answers this time!11

mircea_popescu: we don't give a shit if they do or don't.

asciilifeform: then why bother ?

mircea_popescu: we're here to develop the tmsr human resources, not to get some derps not in wot to eat their fucking peas.

mircea_popescu: how do you say parusski "ridicarea continua a nivelului politic si ideologic" ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re earlier, these factors are 1024 bt long. the longest ssh popped prior, had 512b-long factor.

mircea_popescu: obv if i fucking google it, trilema is like the only source. motherfucker already. here. http://trilema.com/2011/propuneri-de-masuri-pentru-imbunatațirea-activitații-politico-ideologice-de-educare-marxist-leninista-a-membrilor-de-partid-a-tuturor-oamenilor-muncii-comentate/

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah ok.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508545 << i suggest link to the thread ? or if somebody ( mircea_popescu ? ) ever had an article-length exposition of subj -- to that. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 10:21 deedbot: [Qntra] "Crypto Coin Wallet Card" Physical Bitcoins Were A Scam - http://qntra.net/2016/07/crypto-coin-wallet-card-physical-bitcoins-were-a-scam/

gribble: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: but afaik it was ever in just that one thread. here.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1498063 << thread. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 15:04 asciilifeform: i dun care if it is made of gold, shitanium, hitler's skull, etc.; my take on folks selling envelopes which may or may not contain a funded privkey, and may or may not contain the ONLY extant copy thereof, remains same.

gribble: The operation succeeded.

mircea_popescu: myeah.

thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i was thinking of that exact thread when i read the news. prophetic huh?

mircea_popescu: now i'm reading source material of ro 1960s censorship ("raport de analiza muncii", 3rd/4th q, 1961). guess what ? all the censors are women. andreescu elena, miroiu, takacs margareta (they had hungarians to read the hu stuff lol), "vas a. & pop c.", etc etc. fucking dozen+, all womens.

mircea_popescu: how the fyuck does this work.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: 'who could have foreseen!'

asciilifeform: but srsly i wonder if there is ANY discussion of 'the fella who generated the keys may have copies and you will NEVER prove the contrary' in, e.g., tardstalk, wherever.

asciilifeform: any of the places this crapolade was pushed.

mircea_popescu: well they speak a different language.

asciilifeform: waiwut

asciilifeform: 'Either that company was running a scam (and I do not actually accuse them of that) or they were retaining backup copies of the private keys they generated (which they never should have done) and they were stolen by either a hacker or an employee.'

asciilifeform: lulzy.

asciilifeform: 'i opened the money-promise box and it had 0, but i do not accuse the vendor of scam'

asciilifeform: dafuq.

asciilifeform: 'physical btc' is one of those items that is FRACTALLY a bad idea. with disaster waiting at EVERY possible junction.

asciilifeform: leeeeet's pass a box with privkey around, round, round, and pray that nobody peeks in

mircea_popescu: dawg. you're seriously spending your time sifting through tardstalk to support a minor point of dubiously more value than the cost of a log line ?

asciilifeform: i followed the qntra link, that's it.

mircea_popescu: a) hire a girl to do this. pay minimum wage, see how much you actually care to do it ; b) built a pdp already, or what was it you were building ?

asciilifeform: already maxed dosimeter.

asciilifeform wonders if 'physical btc' is largely a stale and dead scam, or still lively somewhere.

mircea_popescu: no such thing as a stale scam.

asciilifeform: point.

mircea_popescu: since the birth of the city, they've only had maybe 3 or 4 scams altogether.

asciilifeform: fiatola was printed in china before euro folk climbed down from the trees, or what it was.

asciilifeform: so, via this heathen pit, http://www.whoismcafee.com/the-travel-guide : 'Dr. McAfee, I have spent the past thirty years perfecting an unbreakable encryption algorithm. My algorithm is not just unbreakable for all practical purposes it is theoretically unbreakable. The advent of quantum computers will not change this. The mathematics confirming my claim is indisputable. You no doubt have sufficient knowledge of mathematics and program

asciilifeform: ming to understand my design. I will be happy to send you a copy of my patent application so you can evaluate the veracity of my claims if you will sign a notarized non-disclosure agreement.'

asciilifeform: this kind of circus is one of the thing i miss about usenet

asciilifeform: sci.crypt crackpots were every bit as entertaining as the sci.physics ones

mircea_popescu: ahahaha who the fuck figures mcafee no doubt has a clue of maths ?

asciilifeform: 'unbreakable cryptographers!' clearly

asciilifeform: who else.

mircea_popescu: me finds http://www.infobae.com/2015/12/05/1774628-el-gran-mito-que-la-argentina-es-un-pais-rico/ where his quote re plowing fly is given as "unknown author", writes to the bulat derp to point out the author's known, since ~1850 or so. guess what happens next ?

asciilifeform: absolutely nothing ?

mircea_popescu: nah, host aspmx.l.google.com [173.194.222.27] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<tbulat@infobae.com>: 552-5.2.2 The email account that you tried to reach is over quota.

mircea_popescu: the idiots use google mail ; who said google mail has infinite space ?

asciilifeform: holy fuq

asciilifeform: current quote for free accts is... ~15GB

mircea_popescu: this incidentally is so fucking typical of this shithole it bleeds. they have THE MARKINGS of everything. if you don't look too closely, tomas bulat seems just like an ordinary derp ; has an email and a picture and everything.

mircea_popescu: but he ISNT one. he's an orc masquerading as one, and at the first touch the masquerade crumbles.

asciilifeform: what's the diff b/w 'ordinary derp' and orc

mircea_popescu: same thing, throughout. buenos aires has a night life, god help you if you try to go out. it has shops, god help you if you try to you know, find the most common industrial product in deployment over the whole country (ie, the heating element from http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study/ )

asciilifeform: the 'human' can afford real leather 'business planner' through no fault of his own, just because the money pipe going through ~his~ back yard drips moar than the orc's

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ordinary derp has ipad ; orc has paper cutout painted like ipad.

asciilifeform: the egyptian from mircea_popescu's article - stuck with faux leather

asciilifeform: ah yes.

asciilifeform: both really belong with a mud brick shaped like ipad

asciilifeform: but one savage found a geologist's flashlight in the woods, and the other - not

mircea_popescu: quite so.

asciilifeform: 'Each Google Apps for Work user can store up to 30 GB of content for free (compared to 15 GB with Google Apps free edition or individual consumer accounts). This storage is shared between Gmail, Google Drive, and Google Photos. If you’re approaching the limit or if you've run out of storage, you can purchase additional storage or reduce your storage usage.'

asciilifeform: fella prolly overfilled his pr0n box.

mircea_popescu: and i presume it filters spam to some degree. hopefuly to such degree that an account last used dec 2015 isn't overrun by 30gb worth of spam in 6 months.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: experimentally, they aren't.

asciilifeform: ( recall why folks end up on gmail to begin with )

asciilifeform: gmail is a very characteristically american chumpatron - 'we will fart and fart and encourage others, and then sell you bottle of clean air'

mircea_popescu: moreover, if it were "derp overfilled his pronbox", you'd expect this problem to resolve over time. i'll bet you whatever it will not.

asciilifeform: well if abandoned it will never be cleaned, neh ?

mircea_popescu: so, so reminescent of "eudemocracia.org" ie http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/#selection-197.0-197.39

asciilifeform: (until garbage collected)

deedbot: [Trilema] Views through a lens - http://trilema.com/2016/views-through-a-lens/

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not even abandoned. it's "abandoned", in the sense your pet cat "has abandoned" its copy of the master and marguerita.

mircea_popescu: hurr durr, wasn't its thing to abandon in the first place.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile i bought "industria argentina" male underwear which, while spoiling the same amount of cotton as a normal pair ; nevertheless HAS NO RUBBER BAND.

asciilifeform: holy fuq, is that a bismarck's cross on the anvil ?!

mircea_popescu: i have never before seen such nonsense, not even in the depths of romanian 80s poverty, where they actually have unyielding band for the underwear omfg.

mircea_popescu: went straight into bin, where i'd like to put this population wholesale.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha.

mod6: that would drive me crazy.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where was the anvil ?

mircea_popescu: PAPER GOODS shop.

shinohai: http://archive.is/4mmml <<< the new generation of burner phones!

asciilifeform: shinohai: lulzy. see the electric meters in arizona thread from a while back, for similar item.

asciilifeform: i can't wait for pay-as-you-go water and sewer.

asciilifeform: and pay toilets where you gotta put in credit card for a set of shutters in the toilet to open.

shinohai: i remember pay stalls in some areas of nyc

shinohai: 25 cents to open stall door

asciilifeform: that's old hat

asciilifeform: gotta EVOLVE!1111

asciilifeform: to next level.

shinohai: bitcoin qr on stall door.

asciilifeform: shutters, i tell ya.

phf: 1btc enter, 2btc leave

asciilifeform: the only notch to go to after that will be chastity belt that physically prevents bladder from emptying until paid.

asciilifeform: ;;google Вход рубль, выход — два

gribble: Error: We broke The Google!

asciilifeform: $google Вход рубль, выход — два

deedbot hands you a broomstick.

asciilifeform: eh.

shinohai: $google Вход рубль, выход — два

shinohai: 10:14 @TRS80`

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shinohai: Психология (1 more message)

shinohai: 10:14 +shinohai $more

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asciilifeform: hm

asciilifeform: why the space ?

shinohai: i copied from another buffer

asciilifeform: yes but why did it fire this time, and not before

asciilifeform: or what happened here

shinohai: ^ that was results from my gribbletron

asciilifeform: ah

asciilifeform: re 'pay as you go', the favoured variant appears to be http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-25#1285945 - flavoured. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2015-09-25 23:24 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPsb_D2WoAAse4i.jpg:large

asciilifeform: obligatory oldie: http://wearcam.org/seatsale

asciilifeform: http://wearcam.org/seatsale/patent << pure gold. e.g., 'Fig. 4 illustrates the back door of a free dwelling or a low cost housing project, where the door has a magnetic safety lock for preventing children from accidentally running out into the backyard and being killed or injured by land mines that have not yet been de-activated by sliding a credit card into the door frame to purchase yard privileges.'

asciilifeform: 'FIG. 4 provides the solution to the problem of homelessness by providing free housing or low cost housing to anyone who wants it. Free houses are given away or loaned subject to certain Terms and Conditions. For example, the houses have surveillance and safety systems built in, and the Terms and Conditions include not tampering with these devices. Homeless persons can trade their privacy and autonomy for housing in which they become

asciilifeform: experimental subjects of various monitoring devices, or in which they view advertisements in their houses, or agree to consume only certain products, or to abide by brand loyalties. Additionally, these homes may be provided with certain safety features, such as a magnetic lock 490 that prevents occupants from leaving the home without meeting certain conditions, such as safety and sobriety.'

asciilifeform: one of the best tr0l0l0lz i've seen in eons. whole thing recommended.

shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://imgur.com/a/VSdan ☟︎

gribble: The operation succeeded.

BingoBoingo: shinohai: Pretty sure that's a dupe

shinohai: searched for "morning ass"

shinohai *shudders*

BingoBoingo: lol

BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFzt1AdCQAEYZ1h.jpg:large

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu asciilifeform link added

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: neato.

BingoBoingo: https://reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tzjxr/why_does_the_dao_contract_have_38434_eth_in_it/?st=iqx42fo1&sh=857d0b96

BingoBoingo: ^ Gasmasks on

mircea_popescu: lmao so comcast is finally installing cable.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whaddayamean? comcast is one of the regional cable monopolies in usa.

asciilifeform: has been, for ages.

mircea_popescu: yes. and the deal described (~80 one time to install including the ~30 bux monthly fee + further 30 day reloads whenever you feel like and no contract or "credit checks" is how cable fucking works. it's what was installed in Romania starting 1993.

mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they did prior. but if not this - not a cable company. sorry.

asciilifeform: what they did prior was almost this.

mircea_popescu: so prior tyhey were almost cable company.

asciilifeform: except, for reasons unknown to me, they would extend the customer 30 days of credit (he'd get service then get 1st bill 30d later.)

asciilifeform: ditto telco. etc

asciilifeform: now that i think about it, the reason was obvious - get him to cough up dough for extras

asciilifeform: ('pay per view', etc)

asciilifeform: whereas now chumper will have to pre-load the acct.

mircea_popescu: the usg.corp bakes in usg.credit much like tmsr.everything bakes in tmsr.wot and for the same exact, purely political, reasons.

asciilifeform: american mobile telcos have, by and large, already switched to the prepaid model.

mircea_popescu: they don't want a world with us in it just like we don't want a world with them in it.

mircea_popescu: well yes, because we're winning the war of worlds, but anyway.

asciilifeform: i suspect that the logic was purely practical - the customers are no longer, by and large, creditworthy.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508757 << mp\s ancient idea, "have housing free for 20yo female students provided they never dress indoors". it made a decent penny. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 14:30 asciilifeform: 'FIG. 4 provides the solution to the problem of homelessness by providing free housing or low cost housing to anyone who wants it. Free houses are given away or loaned subject to certain Terms and Conditions. For example, the houses have surveillance and safety systems built in, and the Terms and Conditions include not tampering with these devices. Homeless persons can trade their privacy and autonomy for hou

mircea_popescu: then it got mainstreamized into "reality tv" or someshit, a whole franchise.

asciilifeform: sounds like some seriously overpriced naked chix pix

asciilifeform: (even if locale with very low rents)

mircea_popescu: at the time (mid 90s, ro) it wasn't in any sense overpriced.

asciilifeform: what did it cost to house 1 specimen ?

mircea_popescu: bout a hundred per head. you don't house them solo.

asciilifeform: well yes

mircea_popescu: you house them in conditions slightly better than they house themselves, which is 6 heads to the 3room apt.

asciilifeform: hundred what? usd ?

mircea_popescu: myeah. under that, really. food included.

asciilifeform: i wouldn't pay 100 usd/mo for pictures of chick

mircea_popescu: well you wouldn't do all sorts of things, principally because and since you'rfe not in the business of doing them.

mircea_popescu: i have nfi why you'd pay, for, eg, cnc mill. but whatevs.

asciilifeform: i can only assume that mircea_popescu found someone who will pay 100+epsilon for it.

mircea_popescu: at the time sets cost ~2k per model.

mircea_popescu: sets you understand, ~hour-and-half.

asciilifeform: i never understood what was so great about professionally-produced pr0nz.

asciilifeform philistine.

mircea_popescu: that freerange female is ~idiot.

asciilifeform: does she need to be brilliant to display her bits ?

mircea_popescu: people who have contact with a lot of them break through the "o, she's an idiot, how endearing" phase of single-mating-male and become deeply irritated by even a faint hint of the well described idiocies. think of it much like how immune cascade/anaphilactic shock works.

asciilifeform can picture it. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. see http://trilema.com/2011/oricine-poate-sa/

mircea_popescu: showing off is more of a skill than being a feminism professor. it takes more work, and it is a more respectable accomplishment.

mircea_popescu: point in case : http://67.media.tumblr.com/6b3c86cf8995a714a1271f8a05d0f330/tumblr_nldoi2Hklx1uox454o1_500.gif << she, and ANY OTHER ONE LIKE HER, could blather endlessly about nonsense, just as well quality wise as ANY us female professor of nonsense. nevertheless, NO us female professor of nonsense could do that scene. maybe if she can afford to pay me a million to train her for eighteen weeks. but even then it's dubious.

mircea_popescu: for which reason, whore > "career woman".

shinohai: lol i am just now seeing where someone sent 38k ETH to the dao

asciilifeform: i suppose i'm roughly in the position of the quasi-deaf artillerist who goes to a mozart concerto.

mircea_popescu: now, i never understood the appeal of dressing cows in "business suits" and pretending like they're speaking when they moo. but then again i'm not in the business of running the us empire of pretense.

asciilifeform: i dun even grasp the appeal of pr0n with cocks in it. ☟︎

asciilifeform: it is insta-turnoff.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform adding that to your anal illustrative inclination, i get the idea maybe you should try it!

asciilifeform: try which ?

mircea_popescu: try homo.

asciilifeform: it just doesn't appeal. can't help it.

mircea_popescu: okthen.

asciilifeform: i will try it shortly after i dine on broken glass, nuts, bolts.

mircea_popescu: but all this aside, the "reality tv" put a half dozen 20yos in a house and film the drama bs made a billion easy.

mircea_popescu: when you're dealing with welfare state consumers, money's both weird and easy.

mircea_popescu: $google bridalplasty

deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridalplasty << Bridalplasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gR2s6G_-3c << Bridalplasty Episode 1 (Part 1/4) - YouTube | http://www.ew.com/article/2010/11/28/bridalplasty-series-premiere-recap << 'Bridalplasty': 15 Things That Made Me Die Inside | EW.com

mircea_popescu: srsly, they had this. "womenz compete to win wedding and plastic surgery"

mircea_popescu: $up Sinclair6

deedbot: Sinclair6 voiced for 30 minutes.

Sinclair6: hi sir!

mircea_popescu: hola

Sinclair6: just in the process of booting up my systems after a thunder and lighting storm

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508808 << if you don't like scylla, you can always go die from charybdis - bite the bullet and only fuck the maths dept chix, even though their makeup is wrong etc. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 15:03 mircea_popescu: that freerange female is ~idiot.

mircea_popescu: i'd rather fuck dudes.

asciilifeform: hey it worx for jurov

mircea_popescu: i thought he didn't like it ; worked about as well as any os he ever used, any software package ; any box of breakfast cereal etc.

asciilifeform: lel

mircea_popescu: ftr, there's a tv franchise called "sit down, shut up". it never caught on.

shinohai: https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/756509426375352320 <<< butterin looks like he needs to get back to his coffin before sunrise in this photo.

asciilifeform: in other 'news', let's a quick experiment: https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/4u3car/we_scan_whole_ipv4_space_and_publicly_break_weak << does the unhappenatron still have unhappenatronium fuel rods left ? or not.

asciilifeform: dropped it also in the other major heathen pit, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12144168 .

mircea_popescu: would have worked better as blog post, but gl.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if nothing else, good test of my cachetronics.

asciilifeform: nice burst of traffic.

asciilifeform: ok mircea_popescu this is precious, i cannot resist:

asciilifeform: 134.223.116.158 - - [22/Jul/2016:15:54:57 +0000] "GET /gpgkey/50840391E5677882196999C9AE77F3177E6CBF8D35FB4F1FEF848CFADF9088B1 HTTP/1.1" 200 3425 "http://134.223.116.149:15871/cgi-bin/blockpage.cgi?ws-session=2010817170"

asciilifeform: ^ Northrop Grumman Co.

asciilifeform: (ip)

mircea_popescu: blog article already.

mircea_popescu: you're dicking around on tardstalk etc anyway, might as fucking well sit down and write something that'll be useful later.

asciilifeform: there is almost enough material for article just in above.

mircea_popescu: quite.

asciilifeform: now granted i cannot prove that 'blockpage.cgi' is their censorware monkey's panel...

asciilifeform: but whatever.

asciilifeform: http://www.websense.com/support/article/kbarticle/How-Can-I-Get-More-Information-About-My-Policy-From-the-Block-Page << done.

asciilifeform: 'websense' filter.

asciilifeform: so - yes - it was.

asciilifeform: 'For custom block pages where the more information link is not available, edit the URL in the address bar to access the hidden view source information. For example, you will see an URL similar to the following for all your custom block pages. http://<ipaddress>:15871/cgi-bin/blockpage.cgi?ws-session=687865868 '

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever grep own logs for 'blockpage.cgi' ? might be good for a cheap lul.

asciilifeform: 'Banned In 66 Countries!1111'

mircea_popescu: cat 'trilema.com-Jun-2016' | grep -c "blockpage.cgi" \ 0 \ wc -l /trilema.com-Jun-2016 \ 8739195 /trilema.com-Jun-2016

mircea_popescu: mno.

asciilifeform: oh well.

mircea_popescu: traffics!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here ya go : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1662

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabriel_radio http://trilema.com/2011/imi-cer-scuze-dar-mi-am-uitat/ there you go, try that :D

gribble: The operation succeeded.

deedbot: [Loper OS] Tears of the Phucked. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1662

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not a bad start!

asciilifeform: i have no doubt that mircea_popescu , if he were inclined, could have written a whole b00k about said item. but all i had was this.

mircea_popescu: gotta start ; then gotta keep going. through which process one achieves the bookwriting.

mod6: asciilifeform: lol nice

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'reject: low quality' (reddit) -- win.

asciilifeform: took less than 1 hour.

asciilifeform: perhaps if it had a lolcat ! or concerned the snorting of ethertardium !

asciilifeform: or Relevant and Evolving!!!11

mircea_popescu: well, alternatively could have had article explaining things rather than just bareback link to data

mircea_popescu: think of the consumer like it were a woman - you don't just go plug her, right ?

asciilifeform: there is a faq

asciilifeform: how many times does one write same explanation ?

asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but if in 2012 someone had shown me a suspected cracking of rsa key in the wild, i would have squeezed stones until i learned how it was done

deedbot: [Trilema] Petty private satisfactions - http://trilema.com/2016/petty-private-satisfactions/

asciilifeform: even if there were no convenient explanation served on a silver plate.

mircea_popescu: well yes, but that's you not reddit.

asciilifeform: it's ~people~

asciilifeform: but then there are also livestock, apparently.

asciilifeform: with net connections.

mircea_popescu: soberania!

deedbot: [Daniel P. Barron] It’s somewhat clunky - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/its-somewhat-clunky/

asciilifeform: lel seems like danielpbarron's pig did not enjoy the fucking any more than mine

asciilifeform: grunted, sprayed mud, shit.

danielpbarron: lol

mircea_popescu: ahgahaha seriously, they want 2kb keys ?

asciilifeform stuck with a 2kb for eons now

asciilifeform: when generating it, i had the figure cached in head from 1990s, '2048, slow but strong!111'

mircea_popescu: hehe

mircea_popescu: anywya. not teh end of the world.

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabrielradio sau vezi si pe la diana daca te tin curelele : http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2011/09/29/curbarea-sursei-trilematice/

gribble: The operation succeeded.

mircea_popescu: this may be the best thing written in that language that year ; and possibly the hardest thing to translate from trilema. notwithstanding that it's not even found there.

mircea_popescu: and in other ornithological references for shinohai , http://67.media.tumblr.com/7fe98f72db7911383ba81b3ddf863e7b/tumblr_nhg4rorKGe1s0h0cio1_400.gif

shinohai: O.o

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "sorry fork, your loss" << actually had me lollin

ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmlilIwUPXU << world's greatest army's procurement pipeline in action

mircea_popescu: in other news, peeled bitter orange (proper peeled, everything off, harem style) in an old fashioned glass, covered with vermouth.

mircea_popescu: aa would hit again.

shinohai: nice i just got in, broke down and bough some muscadine wine for tonite xD

thestringpuller: shinohai: you ever hear of raging burrito?

shinohai: yeah

shinohai: u there?

deedbot: [Trilema] Bucuresti Non Stop - http://trilema.com/2016/bucuresti-non-stop/

mircea_popescu: $up from heh

deedbot: from voiced for 30 minutes.

mircea_popescu: how the fuck do they do it, it's like the luser is wired, genetically predisposed to luserdom.

BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: "sorry fork, your loss" << actually had me lollin << ty. shinohai's piece muh edit

BingoBoingo: $up Sinclair6

deedbot: Sinclair6 voiced for 30 minutes.

BingoBoingo: Anyways the greatest lulz of the etherum fork business is that really it seems like they softforked theft, not hardforked

BingoBoingo: theft of course referring to the forking which was a theft from legitimate DAO contract DAO'er ☟︎

BingoBoingo: *DOA'er