mats: so i looked at the remaining judge's case history (Charles Wilson) and he doesn't have any that meet the qualifications
mircea_popescu: mats say leave a comment with link to the csv you used for source, and with your extracted set
mircea_popescu: ima give it a week or something see if there's objections or anything ?
mircea_popescu: anyone else with an interest in paralegal work - now's your chance btw.
shinohai: I thought about it but they are a pretty small pool in terms of total net hash.
mircea_popescu remembers fondly the times back... oh, was it like maybe two weeks ago ? when the victorious forces of derp bought their way out of the hole because hey, they got enough moneyz to bury me or something ?
mircea_popescu: "For the other thing, rape’s no fun if the meat’s not at the very least squiggling and the #etherape’s no different."
mircea_popescu: looking forward to your first loperos article as a real estate mog-owl.
mircea_popescu: i'm curious what ending up paying 10x more to host servers than you pay to host women in a given month will do to your "i dun wanna rent" perspective.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but in other news, the best pears ever got in season here, they're fabulous
mircea_popescu bought a coupla dozen, chopped them off, stuck in jars with clove, muskatnuss, a little alspice and about 3 bottles of cognac
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 01:31 mircea_popescu: i'm curious what ending up paying 10x more to host servers than you pay to host women in a given month will do to your "i dun wanna rent" perspective.
mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, ethereum komoonity turning ugly with "what if fork doesn't get consensus" and other anxieties.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 01:35 mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, ethereum komoonity turning ugly with "what if fork doesn't get consensus" and other anxieties.
mircea_popescu: "Where Can I Find The Latest Update On The Path Forward? Its stressful here now on Reddit trying to navigate content with all the Trolls that have arrived lately trying to spread lies and FUD."
mircea_popescu: gaw veterans no doubt remember the same "1.oh we're taking over the world 2.no nevermind, tiny road bump ; 3. o wait we got a fix ; 4. crap the fix don't work but we'll pull together as a assburger community ; 5. omfg the trolls!!!!"
mircea_popescu: but anyway, desperation mounts. kinda preview of hilary campaign come november.
shinohai: tfw entire community is made up of trollz
BingoBoingo: Who ever knew there'd be a day when plumbing pressurized supply became easier than plumbing drain
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 17:54 mircea_popescu: and when i finally croak ima go to saint peter an' say loudly an' clearly "what are you droning on about, old man, i didn't do nuttin'. ASK ANYONE!"
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What can't you fix in these houses that goes beyond two 100 ft rolls of PEX and crimping tools?
BingoBoingo: Floors nbd, wiring... who needs more than 3 outlets, furnace < fireplace
BingoBoingo: What? Your hill and Kalash not comfy enough?
BingoBoingo: Spend one outlet from your budget on dehumidifier, another on window AC for whichever room you choose to condition.
mircea_popescu: "I am hoping there will be a hard fork and all is resolved soon so that we can go back to normal days with the excitement of watching and reading about all the innovation that is going on with Ethereum. Maybe /u/vbuterin if you have time."
mircea_popescu: and this filth, this scum, these apeish subhuman objects of scorn and derision aim to participate in things ? with people ? form communities ? have a voice ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways if you use sharbites (even if you decide to use legacy copper theft bait) the entire spectrum of expenses incurred by the plumbing profession is eliminated on the water supply side
BingoBoingo: Maybe if he wants some sort of decorator kitchen with appliances and bullshit
mircea_popescu: eh, prolly starts with fixing the floor, an' the pipes and etc.
mircea_popescu: the fact is, condemned property is usually more expensive to fix than greenfield development.
mircea_popescu: still, it's a profession. job like this undertook by innocent party can easily cost 10x more than commercial value.
BingoBoingo: Stab any structural members with a screwdriver to be sure no vermin?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Still a profession of drains, but the push-to-connect fittings are pretty much it for anyone who can measure, cut, and deburr pipe.
BingoBoingo: does that drain convey water down? if yes the expensive part of your one sink is done!
trinque: "this is not my real self"
mircea_popescu: this notion, "Blog has subj" is the fucking mind eater.
trinque: "I the eater of computer worlds one day saw this shithole" .jpg
BingoBoingo: trinque: Also those articles are good for actual SEO
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah but. but!
trinque: asciilifeform: this half demo'd?
BingoBoingo: Sell phone on ebay, buy one GFCI outlet with proceeds
mats: mircea_popescu: submitted
BingoBoingo: Your sign "I have less than him here, your move"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Why did you not tour Castle?!
mats: it appears judgepedia has a better idea of how many federal magistrates there are than the website of the Federal Judicial Center
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's still not doing it every day, but is getting better at it.
mats: actually, never mind
mats: i was looking at the wrong comment in the thread
mats: the nice thing about alf is that he's an equal opportunity racist
☟︎ mats: i was just thinking about the bug men comment from earlier (no i don't take it personally)
☟︎ mats: do you dress like you're poor?
mats: on a different subject, i admit i have trouble imagining how to make uci useful
trinque: orcs have no pretense to being something better
trinque: everyone else in US.. does.
mats: the plan is to run it on bare metal, isn't it? doesn't that end up being pretty expensive?
☟︎ trinque: same reason I don't mind rednecks
mats: what kinda services are going to be involved that it'd be profitable to operate the infrastructure and build the code in the first place
trinque: would anyone pay for a reliable way to ensure bitcoin txn are broadcast widely?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:35 mats: the nice thing about alf is that he's an equal opportunity racist
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:37 mats: i was just thinking about the bug men comment from earlier (no i don't take it personally)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:46 mats: the plan is to run it on bare metal, isn't it? doesn't that end up being pretty expensive?
a111: Logged on 2015-07-06 20:54 mircea_popescu: which is why no cows, no trees, everyone on tatamis
mircea_popescu: ftr : to force google to use the fucking sane index as opposed to "localized" and other bullshit, google.com/ncr
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, that would have been quite the ambitious remodel to say the least.
ben_vulpes will be attempting something like that next move in all likelihood
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Are you in the camp of fixing putting in essentials and being cool with not doing everything at once, or are you in camp alf who want to turn ghetto dirigible into yet another suburan cookie cutter thing.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: my style of remodeling is to install the range and hood and for baby doll to apply finish and molding as nursing cooking laundry and meal planning afford time
ben_vulpes: upper body work for those with upper body strength, finishing work for those who want things pretty.
BingoBoingo: No leaks in the plumbing, no arcs in the wiring, and you're good
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 13:40 asciilifeform: 'civilization' yields bug-men and cn has 5000 yrs of practice, while white man is a n00b.
mats: mircea_popescu: bare metal as in, a server intended for a single tenant, in contrast to 'cloud'
trinque: mats: seems moar like you'd pay per request of whatever is offered through the UCI
trinque: I'm thinking of it like "pay for access to API"
trinque: whether that's me advocating what I want or describing what's been said
mircea_popescu: mats myeah. the european notion of china is still very much a sort of "empire of cockroach". absurd yet perennial.
mircea_popescu: mats no, the unobvious part in all that is, i suppose for lack of vocal underlining, the owner. in the uci model, any individual piece of hardware has one owner, who makes it available through the uci, sets the prices, etc ; and some tenants.
mircea_popescu: trinque no, it's pretty close, a sort of universal api for computers.
mats: should've bought some buttcoins
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 05:24 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Are you in the camp of fixing putting in essentials and being cool with not doing everything at once, or are you in camp alf who want to turn ghetto dirigible into yet another suburan cookie cutter thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:31 asciilifeform: whole thing is maybe as tall as a chair's seat !
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 05:13 ben_vulpes will be attempting something like that next move in all likelihood
phf: you get complete climate control with a combination of dehumidifier, window ac unit and an air purifier, which you can scale as needed. extra ac in bedroom, extra dehumidifier in bathroom, etc.
☟︎ phf: i suspect it's a dodgy proposition in the death area, because someone will definitely try and steal AC out of your window
phf: (that's why you sometimes see cages shaped to window and ac)
phf: well, i've added it all up, and it doesn't ever
phf: yes, and necessary parts for kitchen/climate control will run you 2-3k
☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: oh you're not thinking of installing those things yourself?
mircea_popescu: did you reload the page or something ? i can click it.
phf: mircea_popescu: "<a hrerf=..."
phf: i thought goal was zero rent, rather then resale value?
phf: mircea_popescu: A _HRERF_
mircea_popescu: get a load of these schmucks. step 1 : pretend inept, boring shit like "star trek" and "the assvengers" is fiction. step 2 : pretend even more inept, boring shit like "star trek 8" and "assvengers 7.3" is ALL THE POSSIBLE FICTION. step 3. pretend like the ~everyone who never gave a shit about the little island of crazy "needs a new something or the other".
mircea_popescu: i suppose mormon smith imagined europe needs "a new kind of mormon bible". you know, the one they've had for about 2k years.
gribble: I have not seen Framedragger_.
gribble: Framedragger was last seen in #trilema 4 days, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Framedragger>
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492083 << out of loop; soo, many awesome bitcoin nodes actually run on the same host? kinda hilarious / sad
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 15:01 asciilifeform: where they ran out of where to put the dough
mircea_popescu: now you know where Guo Boxiong's truckful comes from. it's a dropplet of the rain falling on all things from the comrade xi's fountain.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 15:13 phf: you get complete climate control with a combination of dehumidifier, window ac unit and an air purifier, which you can scale as needed. extra ac in bedroom, extra dehumidifier in bathroom, etc.
mircea_popescu: there's a space between "window ac" and "central air". you can get a proper split unit installed.
mircea_popescu: just thinking about "window ac", wtf is this "feel good" nonsense. it clearly doesn't solve the problem, it just what, gives you the impression of a cool breeze ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a split unit is this thing where the compressor and hot phase sit outside, for instance on roof, and cold head inside.
mircea_popescu: unlike central air, you move freon gas around rather than air. so no huge tubage.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, central air is when you have a huge tube and the conditioning happens entirely outside.
mircea_popescu: usually done for warehouses (originally, a thing from positive pressure clean rooms)
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i dunno that i loathe anything us as much as THE MOTHERFUCKING WINDOWS.
mircea_popescu: they have these tiny shits, more insult than window. and then IT ONLY OPENS HALFWAY.
mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for one thing, they were wood rather than plastic frame then
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usually this is done for the 2 rooms (of 4) that have "a balcony"
mircea_popescu: it's a 20sqft slab whose main purpose is to allow the master bedroom to have proper windows.
mircea_popescu: yes, and it makes me want to put the drink down and leave.
mircea_popescu: ttp://calculator.fereastracora.ro/calcul-pret-termopan
mircea_popescu just did the calc, ~800 bucks for 3.55 x 2.0 meter window, 24mm float glass x2 with argon filling.
mircea_popescu: this window insulates better than anything full brick or below.
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform anyone bothered to run the "fire hazard cost" "amortized over lifetime of house" for the shitty wood-glass napalm mix ?
mircea_popescu: or for that matter the disadvantage of porthole + neon light "for energy efficiency" ?
mircea_popescu: since we're doing externalities, let's do the whole shebang, not like i'm a fucking redskin and the oh-so-clever ustard is going to get to count MY externalities and just mine.
mircea_popescu: so let's hear it, brick and termopan window vs vinyl siding and shit on a stick.
mircea_popescu: will end up costing 100x more before i even get my sleeves pulled up.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the usg counts "corruption" against me. i don't.
mircea_popescu: it's a war, after all. i count their "innocent victims" even as they count mine.
mircea_popescu: yep. kinda what's driving the entire resettling of the injuns.
mircea_popescu: people want the houses of the grandfathers back, can't built them anymore.
mircea_popescu: apparently, they want them back so bad, it's even worth destroying the police over it.
mircea_popescu: (yes, the deep reason amored truck is "needed" is exactly this : moving the injuns around will require some caterpillaring.)
mircea_popescu: to slowly resettle it out of historic east coast districts.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 16:07 mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way
phf: but have that at the expense of builtin "carpet" in bedroom
phf: it seems like they can't quite get it right here
ben_vulpes had that while attending uni. 8th floor, poured concrete building, enough ac to make nipples pop, gas fireplace but *electric range*
ben_vulpes: (swimming pool! parking garage! 1100/mo for ~750 ft2 and 2 br and 1.5 bath!)
mircea_popescu: parquet, area carpets, women with carpet beaters a few times a year.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform irani imports, "persian carpets" in romania. the shit that was common middle class in my parents' house and is now untold luxury omfg.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if memory serves, they cost ~2-3k a pop, which is to say about the same as a hundred vinyls or so.
phf: black caviar at local ru store is like $100 for couple of grams
phf: also i looked at the apartment in philadelphia that had wall window for the street side room, 14'' ceilings, hardwood floor everywhere. was built end of 19th century. and of course the rent goes exponential. instead of $1000 that was sop for the size, it was something like $2500
mircea_popescu: phf but for the floors, this is actually what the smart "fixers" do.
mircea_popescu: high end stuff such as oak (we didn't count oak parquet as anything. we did peach, and cherry, and nut tree for the up end) costs to put in 1/5 of what it gets priced in as.
mircea_popescu: so they'd blow up a ceiling in the entryway to make the house "look" tall, and so on.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what's a split unit ? << motel wall unit. Pretty good actually for previously unconditioned spaces.
phf: makes sense, though i suspect particular house was untouched, or touched up anyway. reminded me of some of the golden youth moscow apartments, thick beams of hardwood floor, tiny rooms with high ceilings, certain way the place smells
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, jews from bukovina. first pass, the nazis. 2nd pass, the russians
BingoBoingo: A<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo aha. << Actually I was thinking mini-split. But yes "central air" in US residential use almost always means a split system.
BingoBoingo: Anyways cutting a hole in brick to install mini-split in book room is nbd, just use a sawzall
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo even easier in autoclaved cellular concrete, w/e they call it in anglolands
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 15:15 phf: yes, and necessary parts for kitchen/climate control will run you 2-3k
mircea_popescu: just proper fridge (1k at the very least) ; proper stove (about 500, fittings et all) ; dishwasher (another 500) touches your 2k. this includes no cabinets or other furniture, no retiling the walls, no holy shit expenses such as redoing the floor, fixing holes in walls or adding a section of roof etc.
mircea_popescu: and this is with free female labour to paint walls and scrub surfaces clean, and with paint, solvent and detergent included in the figures for the items (which alsoinclude transport etc)
mircea_popescu: last time i took over a place, ~50 girl-hours went into scrubbing surfaces.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cheapo scheme above, cheaper to replace the ducts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if pressed enough, can do with own face!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, depends. sometime "tear the whole shit down" is cheaper than fix. besides, if i'm going to pour concrete in my kitchen, i'd much rather pour the whole floor plane.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "<mircea_popescu> asciilifeform cheapo scheme above, cheaper to replace the ducts." denotes that in the "central air" image i linked, the ducts exist in the attic as free standing tin foil. they're connected to a grate in the roof of rooms.
mircea_popescu: for THAT arrangement, new ducts will run you 3-400 bucks and you're done.
phf: mircea_popescu: my calculations assume that you're not trying to move into up to standards place upfront. mircea_popescu: i'm thinking how much it takes to put it in a survival mode. fridge, stove and window AC, then you spend the next year working over the place on weekends. i had a few friends who did it that way, ended up with high resale value places when the area inevitably gentrified 10 years later
phf: of course you have to actually be poor to do it that way
phf: some people like to go about that way as an avocation
phf: my time is expensive, but it's non linear. i can't be hacking 24/7, or parsing information, sometimes i need to build things out of wood to let brain reset
mircea_popescu: phf so your survival mode includes what, food spoliage ? eating frozen dinners ?
phf: no no fridge, stove and window AC as absolute minimum
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like it or not, the time of about 1/4 of us female population IS worth 0.
mircea_popescu: it's either "paiont and scrub this property" or else "go to school" / "look for a job" / ruin perfectly good food "cooking" and be bitchy about it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you familiar with the house structure as a cultural item in the middle east ?
mircea_popescu: see, to you, or in general to white people of the tribe that invented houses, a house is a thing, a definite item.
mircea_popescu: but to this dubious race of the east, a house is not a definite item. instead, it is a tower.
mircea_popescu: the land surface of this tower reflects the importance of the clan inhabiting it.
mircea_popescu: so, they do not have rooves, per se. just an unfinished floor, which has a foot or two of pillar reinforced concrete, with the rebar exposed.
mircea_popescu: should any of the girls manage to get knocked up, the family is drafted to pour more concrete, make another "roof" ie floor, and fill brick in between
mircea_popescu: the thing being, that you walk around the item and know the social rank of the inhabitants, and then look up and see the sluttery of the X chromosome baked in.
mircea_popescu: for the anthropologist, god damned fascinating, they're like a family-sized snail building its conch.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the question to you is, are you building a dirigible in the white man sense or in the sand nigger sense ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 17:31 asciilifeform: i like the idea of slowly building 'dirigible'
mircea_popescu: there's ONE thing the middle eastern guy has that white man can't replicate, and that is, a stable, and here i kid you not, a stable, of dozen+ pliable obedient females WITH offspring.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the reason white man doesn't build the middle eastern tower may be whatever you wish it to be.
mircea_popescu: but from HIS perspective, it's that you can't afford the tools.
mircea_popescu: cairo, for the record, is a city ~the size of california.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> whole gedankenexperiment was predicated on 'fix carcass' << White gase camp stove is $50 to $350. There, kitchen.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's exactly two ways to construct value into this world. one's to take the 1/4 * 350mn / 2 = 40 or so million currently useless refuse and turn them into women. even if you only manage a small %, it's still something. aka, uranium water filtering.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and yer time has to be worth ~0 << NO, it just has to be worth less than (tradeperson wage)/(2 or 3)
mircea_popescu: "You people? Oh, let's see. Yeah. I see. I see, you... you want to learn the secret of our success, is that right? Alright I'll teach you. First of all you start off with a period of several thousand years, during which you have nothing to sustain you but a great bearded legend. Oh my friend you have no land to call your own, to grow food on or to hunt. You have nothing. You're never in one place long enough to have a geograp
mircea_popescu: hy or an army or a land myth. All you have is a little brain. A little brain and a great bearded legend to sustain you and convince you that you are special, even in poverty. But this little brain, that's the real key you see. With this little brain you go out and you buy a piece of cloth and you cut that cloth in two and you go and sell it for a penny more than you paid for it. Then you run right out and buy another piece of
mircea_popescu: cloth, cut it into three pieces and sell it for three pennies profit. But, my friend, during that time you must never succumb to buying an extra piece of bread for the table or a toy for a child, no. You must immediately run out and get yourself a still larger piece cloth and so you repeat this process over and over and suddenly you discover something. You have no longer any desire, any temptation to dig into the Earth to gr
mircea_popescu: ow food or to gaze at a limitless land and call it your own, no, no. You just go on and on and on repeating this process over the centuries over and over and suddenly you make a grand discovery. You have a mercantile heritage! You are a merchant. You are known as a usurer, a man with secret resources, a witch, a pawnbroker, a sheenie, a makie and a kike! "
mircea_popescu: the only question before you, mr alf-form, is : are you a jew ?
mircea_popescu: it didn't luck out to be picked by the "identity politics" circus, so it's not an insult at all! fancy its luck.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, sand nigger is "intrinsically" insulting, dontchaknow.
mircea_popescu: seems to be the dream here - if i carve the right words into immutable functional space, mega meat army pops.
mircea_popescu: "modestly, m'lady, i just want my spunk coming out your nose, s'all."
mircea_popescu: the ones like you, without uncle, fought hyena for cave. about as likely to "construct" cave as hyena.
mircea_popescu: the ones like the jew, lived in house invested by uncle, see above re cairo.
mircea_popescu: well, i'm nor one to ineptly suggest stuff. "Hey, you building house ? look into geodesic dome / $random crap!" because that's what i last read in Nature and i fancy myself a cultivated fellow.
mircea_popescu: instead, i'm merely exploring the known, as found in this here endless library.
mircea_popescu: perhaps it's useful, though i have no idea how it would be.
mircea_popescu: "bitch, get your ass to baltimore and don't come back until you've picked up a local."
mircea_popescu: this is why slavery doesn't work as an educational ploy without the whip.
mircea_popescu: and importantly, pick up makes no specification re fuck.
mircea_popescu: and you wish to do the same. on your own terms, sure, but the point is - the same.
mircea_popescu: gee whiz, what the fuck sense could it make to interact with the very subject of your interest!
mircea_popescu: but - on the upside, teach girl to cure meats etc, loads of fun uber valuable skills.
mircea_popescu: in principle a household should be capable to intake 500 lbs of freshly slaugthered pig and craft it into food supplies worth ~1 1/4 mn delicious calories
mircea_popescu: what capital figure did you come up with as ther threshold ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 00:38 mircea_popescu: it's a "have a hundred slaves" machine.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 00:38 mircea_popescu: in the sense a luxury car is "100k" or a cellphone "1500". yeah, right, read the maintenance contracts.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 15:39 mircea_popescu: no warehouse, no bauxite.
mircea_popescu: i'd say high six figures in actual, liquid capital, should be sufficient. that's ~1k btc atm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform complex. pretty thin middle class in btc. people > 10k or <100 , broadly.
mircea_popescu: it's deeply unclear to me the acrobat, rather than the stripped that comfortably dps, is at issue here.
mircea_popescu: in other words, i don't believe manhood to be much of an innate talent. there'\s good arguments for the position.
mircea_popescu: howevert yuou state it, manhood can't be much of a talent.
mircea_popescu: so far we're working on whether it's, strictly speaking, a sin
mircea_popescu also defines the grammar of languages, eg. romanian. and then "alert reader" calls him on it, and mp says fuck you, language is codified by the languagemaker, the poet and the genius generally. which is me, not you. now fix those cookbooks and laundry lists you call "grammar books"
mircea_popescu confesses to being tempted by such a scheme many times past, because that way the headers would be historically accurate.
mircea_popescu: you can tell a shit language (html) by the fact that as it matures it goes back where it started from : infancy.
mircea_popescu: on the upside you can prolly have emacs macro to properly handle image linkage if you have a fixed scheme
trinque: I tend to use static site generators
phf: trinque: i suggested one, ascii couldn't get past first line
☟︎ trinque hated on the wiki recently; maybe I'll write a CL html generator sometime soon
trinque: I'll want one for bot doings soon anyway
trinque: the idea of a "web framework" generating pages each request is insane, even on high-churn sites
trinque: they do this, then "caching" gets involved
phf: trinque: coleslaw is a static site generator written in cl
mircea_popescu: trinque it's not as bad as it seems theoretically, on the grounds of apache being utter shit.
phf: asciilifeform: git is an optional deployment option
trinque: my emacs is not in wwwbrowser!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 01:32 mircea_popescu bought a coupla dozen, chopped them off, stuck in jars with clove, muskatnuss, a little alspice and about 3 bottles of cognac
mircea_popescu: today, tried the contents. pears delicious, the liquoir a bit strong. brewed fresh pot of coffee, added it in. OMFG best coffee ever.
phf: wwwbrowser disqualifies coleslaw
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> strictly files on disk plox. << werc?
mircea_popescu: anyway, to the topic : the lot of you've got to be insane to opine on the matter without actually trying the set-up i declare to be happy with, which also carries the endless millions of trilemawords, longer than any codeball ever written.
phf: BingoBoingo: that one's missing browser integration
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 18:58 asciilifeform: and editor via wwwbrowser.
phf: i'm not even sure why i'm participating in this conversation, y'all just ranting over each other :>
phf goes to setup wordpress
phf: by the way, what's wrong with current %seen?
gribble: phf was last seen in #trilema 35 seconds ago: <phf> %seen phf
phf: though could probably use same nick matches as that's used in from:, so that $seen ascii will return last of many ascii_field, ascii_orc, ascii_butugychag ...
phf: presumably needed to "actually work"
phf: i dunno, nobody's actually using it
phf: so do i, but we don't send patches to each other. v needs a distribute team to put it through paces, but every time we do, we et lively philosophical conversations as to how it supposed to actually be used
mircea_popescu: the statement was that PEOPLE SHOULDN'\ EXPECT TO REUSE other people's patches in contexts not intended by those other people ; but instead hand pollinate.
mircea_popescu: this says nothing re common trunk ; it's a discussion of #import idiocy.
mircea_popescu: it's strictly a "yes, shit and myelin both go into body, but there's a membrane between them".
mircea_popescu: it's just that i see a lot more compartments, separate, than is customary in "the profession"/"the biz".
mircea_popescu: there's an inviolate margin between ideal-code and deployed-code for instance. which this crude notion of "merging" aims to breach.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> AND it needs plan9!!!! << It needs plan9 UTILITIES, available on any nixen
phf: only acceptable solution is 200 lines of ADA, that you can run on dos (equivalently baremetal) and needs www interface
mircea_popescu: let me know if you have trouble standing it up, i'll debug for free!
mircea_popescu: also - if anyone feels like undertaking maintenance for this, on like a V tree and everything, i wouldn't be at all against.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for one thing - splendid entry level project to learn v without having to know wtf project 9 level arcana is. for the other - still some crud that could do with taking out etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a) which and b) why would binary be un-v-able i dun get it ?
mircea_popescu: as i said - still some crud that could do with taking out etc.
mircea_popescu: everything is 100% ascii text. notwithstanding the damage iconoclasts of your tribe try to do to alphabet.,
mircea_popescu: it IS cussack range temporarily converted to shitplain.
mircea_popescu: "preferable" doesn't mean anything. also bitmaps should be svg'd.
mircea_popescu: 110408 total says wc -l. holy shit 100k loc omfg wtf bbq.
mircea_popescu: anyway. most of the shit should be cut out with irons, there's room for maybe 2k lines there in like 3 files once one's done shaving the hairball.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform possibly because original development by automattic was done on windoze ? nfi.
mircea_popescu: i've been ignoring it ever since accidentally got upgraded.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-22 14:29 mircea_popescu replaces E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE & ~E_DEPRECATED & ~E_STRICT that apparently GETS IGNORED ANYWAY with E_ERROR and fu.
mircea_popescu: "is the man fucking himself on the stick portruding from the woman's butt ? or is he contraiwise, impelling an attached probiscus into her hole ?"
mircea_popescu: make a call to phpinfo() grep for "display_errors". should e Off Off.
mircea_popescu: well wtf you're gonna make a blog with my face on it ?!@
mircea_popescu: but i have spun up half the php army, so something better come of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently this is not possible, to be in a situation where the right php.ini contains a display_errors off switch and yet the page barfs warnings.
mircea_popescu: oh btw, this auto-resizes images. i just upload whatever and it gives me 560xblabla fit for the page.
mircea_popescu: phf it has a pretty powerful antispam mechanism. it spits on people who try to send pingbacks from other ips than the blog in question ; it quarantines people who try to add posts with links to anything other than your own blog ; and it auto-spams people it recognizes on the basis of the already marked as spam.
mircea_popescu: which is why originally you'll get some spam quarantined, but after a while it goes away. i see ~1-2 pieces / week atm.
mircea_popescu: but to get this benefit, mark spam as spam rather than delete it.
phf has never seen wordpress
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but it lacks essentials, e.g., search box << not an essential, jsut do qntra style archive page
phf: asciilifeform: it's a widget you need to enable in settings
phf: wp-content goes into same folder as wp-content, wp-includes
phf: same as your apache www-data
phf: well, so far i have everything as rw r r, but i suspect to edit theme you'll need to either chown to apache's user, or chown to group and add rw rw r
phf: pretty sure everything except wp-content/uploads can stay readonly
phf: asciilifeform: i linked it for you
phf: you gotta engage with my blarg brah
phf: i'm looking for those massive impressions
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, you can make theme as css light as you wish. heck, make it pure html barf. or for that matter, plaintext.
mircea_popescu: also, trilema doesn't have search box either. wtf search box.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, merely formulating those standards precisely would be useful. why not.
mircea_popescu: seeing how you'll have to come up with something EACH DAY, soon enough the broken state of the world becomes a revelry.
phf: asciilifeform: wp-admin/options-misc.php
phf: well, you want to go to wp-admin/media-new.php, try and upload something, see if it lands in the dir?
phf: it's like none of you read my blog!
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, this, at least on my setup, very quick and easy "host this file" basis)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it needs structure, iirc it is something like /wp-content/uploads/2016/07/x
phf: fwiw i only created uploads, and it made the structure on its own, after i fixed permissions
phf: drwxrwxr-x 3 root www-data 4.0K Jul 3 17:59 uploads/
phf: oh yeah, pretty much
mircea_popescu: phf hey, you gotta fix the antispam bit, which prolly has a fixed path in it or something ? currently not letting me comment.
mircea_popescu: one second ima give you the fix. theme needs some salt for comment form to work.
phf: of course, current version is something like 4.8, mp's version is 2.7, 2009 vintage
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a blessing, of course. you want 2015 theme like you want karachi street whore.
mircea_popescu: next time that guy comes in that was trying to fix qntra, i guess we get him to make you a special wp 2.7 theme to spec ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you want to debug, you can just make a 2nd install. can share db, even, it has this table-prefix scheme baked in. that one you can restrict to yourself and use for hacking upon.
phf: and a picture of myself on a camel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trhe idea is you want either both of the chunks linked or neither. currently you have only the top one (in wp-comments-post.php ) but not hte bottom one (in /wp-content/theme/comments.php )
mircea_popescu: it's in ~your theme~. do you have one ? no ? WELL THEN!
phf: asciilifeform: wp-content/themes/default/comments.php
mircea_popescu: you could alternatively take the thing out of wp-comments-post.php ; all it does is it prevents serious spam operations from working
mircea_popescu: way these work is, they collect form data once with spider, come back and spam it for years afterwards.
mircea_popescu: it won't likely degrade the scheme enough for you to notice.
mircea_popescu: ie, this specific bit is a load control measure more than actually spam-killing per se.
mircea_popescu: $suffix = substr(md5(date('Y-m-d')."salt.no,rly.salt."),0,6); to become $suffix = "";
mircea_popescu: well, when this engages what it does is, "Looks like you tried to comment off a stale page. Reload the article, count to three and try again."
phf: mircea_popescu: i think the anti-spam instructions are missing bit for comment_post_time
mircea_popescu: get the two hashes to line up, ima make a comment on article with update. it has been 7 years huh.
mircea_popescu: <input type="hidden" name="comment_post_time" value="<?php echo time(),"-",$_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']; ?>" /></p>
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he crafitily discovered there's a missing bit.
mircea_popescu: phf also paginated comments are fucking stupid, take that shit out
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the theme, same file, comments.php. part of the comment form, grep for "comment_post_ID" and put it under
mircea_popescu: it's flood killer / antibot measure, otherwise you can actually get destroyed by botnet relaying the same comment over and over 100times/s.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not exactly, no. gotta fit them in trilema socket.
phf: mircea_popescu: i think that's just some default setting
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heh. should be SELECT comment_ID FROM $wpdb->comments
mircea_popescu: $myrows = $wpdb->get_var('SELECT comment_ID FROM '.$wpdb->prefix.'comments WHERE comment_author_IP = "'.$_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"].'" and comment_approved = "spam";');
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there may be some issues with theme display for logged in admin.
mircea_popescu: and also do me a favour and delete my spam comment ; now it doesn't let me comment anymoar :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno ; seems to me like a theme issue. this isn't phf's theme, actually, is it ?
mircea_popescu: shut up gentoo boy! unlike that pos, this actually works for a decade once settled down. and the settling down is a few hours not a few weeks.
mircea_popescu: there;'s no "displayed" though. there's All | Pending (4) | Approved | Spam (15,875)
mircea_popescu: but yes, dubious comments get queued, so you can approve them or not. once you approve some, the dubiousness evaluator gets better.
mircea_popescu: gotta appreciate, you just made this, so everyone's yet a stranger.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fi on trilema just now, i had to approve that Anonimescu;s fellow first comment ; as he never was seen before. his subsequent ones, i didn't need to touch.
mircea_popescu: you can prolly fiddle with the knobs to make this work more to your liking, but in my experience it's ~perfect.
phf: mircea_popescu: what's the point of wp-includes/js/.htaccess?
mircea_popescu: seems more like a passive "bury this shit" measure than anything else. who's to trust js.
phf: i'm fixing some warnings
phf: i'm hacking on PHP with VIM, i feel so deliciously white trash
phf: Spam (1) thing in that top bar?
phf: in fact i could send it to spam, and then approve and it appears where it's supposed to be