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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24472 @ 0.00042458 = 10.3903 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
☟︎ decimation: it seems that most of the 'security apparatus' of usg is geared toward catching dumb or incompetent spies
decimation: apparently like it is also geared to catch dumb terrorists
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:09:34; asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur.
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:10:26; asciilifeform: notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret'
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00041543 = 15.4955 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> how is "working undercover" what you do when you << couldn't possibly be real. lulzy satire of the state of the state tho
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> esp in odessa << ehe late as always, i am
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111450 @ 0.00043169 = 48.1119 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19863 @ 0.00041543 = 8.2517 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 19:45:47; trinque: what's a mouse
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00043095 = 17.669 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00043293 = 14.6114 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: there is a "silent dance party" occuring at the park down the street
ben_vulpes: many many people with headphones dancing to music only they can hear
ben_vulpes: this was less eerie two nights ago at 1 in the morning.
Adlai: one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties
☟︎ Adlai: he has since moved up in life, last i heard he cancelled a return ticket from the west coast to stick around and carve surfeboards
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:18:14; Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21455 @ 0.00041116 = 8.8214 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:23:56; Adlai: one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties
Adlai: fwiw ben_vulpes i distinctly remember him saying "wifi", although it could be that different manufacturers use different technologies
Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either
☟︎ Adlai: 'jew things' is such a game of broken telephone, it's amazing how people survived without deedbots
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44555 @ 0.00042275 = 18.8356 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: maybe next week he will be complaining about the damn mailman
Adlai: "a king has his reign and then he dies"
mod6: man writes a defacto encryption encyclopedia, uses windows.
mod6: other man creates a crypto-currency, uses windows and MFC.
mod6: staggers the imagination
☟︎ decimation: actually, what it says to me is that the alternatives are dead
Adlai: satoshi must've "known better"
Adlai: his using msvc was just like writing the note with your non-dominant hand
decimation: as ascii said, they probably use winblows because that's what they sell at the computer store
decimation: adlai: he ported functions from mfc into bitcoin utils.cpp
Adlai: so? i'll copypaste the navyseals copypasta, doesn't mean i know how to triforce
decimation: my point being, he picked his tools, stuck with them
decimation: it's hard for me to begrudge a man that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45769 @ 0.00041034 = 18.7809 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00042177 = 6.9381 BTC [+]
decimation: maybe his fight was always at least partially a show
decimation: now as an old man, he can't sustain it
decimation: duh, first rule of marketing club is don't talk about marketing club
decimation: it's a good paper about the pointlessness of provability in crypto
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00042177 = 3.9435 BTC [+]
decimation: "Once I heard a speaker from NSA complain about university researchers who are cavalier about proposing untested cryptosystems. He pointed out that in the real world if your cryptography fails, you lose a million dollars or your secret agent gets killed. In academia, if you write about a cryptosystem and then a few months later find a way to break it, you've got two new papers to add to your résumé!"
decimation: in one of his papers koblitz complains that the only thing 'cryptographers' care about is finding nifty new one-way functions
decimation: instead of trying to model and criticize anything resembling real-world crypto
decimation: "Apparently the availability of money from NSA had had a corrupting effect on some mathemati- cians, who started to think in nationalistic and jingoistic terms so that they could write their proposal in a way that they thought would appeal to NSA."
decimation: ironically, if the NSA heckler is correct about the real-world pressure, such jingoism would be a disqualifier
decimation: "we thought our museum-fremen ways would impress you"
decimation: well, the job of usg is to spend money
decimation: just because they have in-house talent wouldn't exclude the possibility of pissing money away on other shit too
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00043125 = 22.8563 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80908 @ 0.00043396 = 35.1108 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00040411 = 2.263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00041981 = 8.3962 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102939 @ 0.00042085 = 43.3219 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15444 @ 0.00042803 = 6.6105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16259 @ 0.00043426 = 7.0606 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell shinohai what platform did you end up compiling bitcoind on?
cazalla: silence dance party still ravin'?
ben_vulpes: nah, lights on the tennis court turn out at ten
ben_vulpes: everyone goes home politely but the vagrants
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00043467 = 6.0202 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00042846 = 6.2127 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30069 @ 0.00042632 = 12.819 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00041611 / 0.00043534 (5419913 shares, 2,255.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00033981 / 0.00038469 / 0.00043534 (18895378 shares, 7,268.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032646 / 0.00043534 (117114948 shares, 38,234.36 BTC)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00041703 = 2.9192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00041545 = 4.9439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18090 @ 0.00040831 = 7.3863 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00042855 = 6.214 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00043535 = 28.8637 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.0004184 = 3.933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00041082 = 8.7915 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63350 @ 0.00040561 = 25.6954 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00041843 = 9.1009 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00041845 = 6.737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39243 @ 0.00041813 = 16.4087 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0004074 = 14.0553 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3875 @ 0.00041845 = 1.6215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00041074 = 3.5324 BTC [-]
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.85, Best ask: 240.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 239.85, 24 hour volume: 22945.68371812, 24 hour low: 234.56, 24 hour high: 241.99, 24 hour vwap: None
davout: ;;ticker --currency EUR
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
jurov: ;;ticker --currency EUR --market bitcoincentral
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 209.51, Best ask: 213.9, Bid-ask spread: 4.39000, Last trade: 213.9, 24 hour volume: 121.68340784, 24 hour low: 206.0, 24 hour high: 214.0, 24 hour vwap: 209.82578069
jurov: gribs forgot how to convert
jurov: ;;ticker --currency copper
gribble: Error: 'copper' is not a valid currency code.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56450 @ 0.00041192 = 23.2529 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: ;;ticker --currency "rickety reeds"
gribble: Error: 'rickety reeds' is not a valid currency code.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00043163 = 13.9848 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.0004331 = 21.7849 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00043424 = 8.2723 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00041475 = 9.2904 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local socialite!11". so in this
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 01:38:53; assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
mircea_popescu: , the guy's action to disclose was "reasonable", and your approach only works if you're there as an envoy of the most serene republic or the republic of china, and they are actually afraid that if they misbehave their children are going to be used as ingredients in someone's supper.
mircea_popescu: ie, exactly as you point out, "the devil is not interested in lies, but in liars". so it is. with the caveat that it is not interested in THE TRUTH of anyone's being a liar, but in the useful political lie of anyone having been a liar.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense "cuomo might be corrupt". they... they just haven't figured it out yet lolz.
mircea_popescu: obama also "might" be corrupt. nixon "actually was" corrupt. the difference between these is left as an exercise, but not to the reader of history. it's strictly an exercise to the writer of history.
mircea_popescu: which is, incidentally, why any discussion with the devil may only logically start with a full and unwavering declaration from the devil that it is talking to ~the incorruptible~. ie, outside of its jurisdiction, they whose "corruptness" may not be judged by it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00040861 = 9.9701 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: ^mining pool takes itself down because of 'bitlisence'
mircea_popescu: anyone ~else~ inclined to listen to gavin, take notice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00041361 = 9.8026 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the thing the "community" prefers to ignore is that its continued existence is fully predicated on it being made 80% of people who are not older than six months and don't intend to be.
mircea_popescu: just like the "community" of high voltage wire lickers, or "transsexuals" or what have you may only exist for as long as it's entirely made of either fresh idiots or the trolls that bait them
mircea_popescu: how many people came here with a "omg i can't believe how stupid i was" sorta thing.
pete_dushenski: i still get comments on contravex saying exactly that.
pete_dushenski: speaking of recent commenters, i just had a guy drop a line on buying russian corporate bonds through an etf on lse
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Want to write up BTCGuild? I'm working on another social media failure story
pete_dushenski: not quite as juicy as the government bonds, but exposure to russian corporate bonds looks decently lucrative compared to western offerings
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski hard to price the sovereign risk for russia tho
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well, not like pricing sovereign risk for usa is easy
pete_dushenski: mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11454 @ 0.00041361 = 4.7375 BTC [+]
mats: i hear pogs are blowing up
TheNewDeal: methinks gribble has been drinking today
gribble: Current Blocks: 361193 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 1686 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski entirely up to him i would think, but yeah.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: as it's entirely up to you how long you feel like steering this ship. except you're, what, half putin's age.
pete_dushenski: hm. just checked, putin is 62, so not quite half but close enough
mircea_popescu: the chinese have been workingon animmortality pill for 3`000 years
decimation: pete_dushenski: mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0 < not so, usg will *always* repay usd debt
decimation: the question is just how much usd it needs to magic into existence
decimation: the man who can print money is not a credit risk, he's a risk for something else
pete_dushenski: the man who can print money is perfectly capable of being a credit risk
decimation: are you supposing that in the crux he won't print?
pete_dushenski: you really think he can make enough money being a slumlord on James Street ?
pete_dushenski: decimation: i'm supposing he will print 'in the crux' and that no one will take him anymore seriously than the streetwalker wearing 15 hats stacked one on top of the other
decimation: aye, well at that point anything denominated in usd is a risk
pete_dushenski: you see they both have a lottery ticket that they're still waiting to hear back from the corporate board on
pete_dushenski: the board had to reorganise and now everything's up in the air
decimation: the question of how long the dollar can 'levitate' as the world's reserve is an interesting one
decimation: and the most obvious 'sovereign risk' for usg
pete_dushenski: how long is kinda interesting in the sense of "how much time does that give us to stockpile useable computing hardware"
pete_dushenski: the writing's on the wall and people can't ignore it indefinitely
TheNewDeal: pete_dushenski what's wrong with me wearing 15 hats?
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: nothing if you want to be a street urchin.
pete_dushenski: decimation: if you're financially exposed to benefit from 'the event', as we all are, then it's a matter of how long can we be patient
decimation: could be this year, could be 100 years
pete_dushenski: decimation: could be, sure. 100 years ago : franz joseph i, today : merkel, 100 years hence : 4638 c4ca kinda thing
decimation: one obvious 'sword of Damocles' hanging over usg is the enormous dollar debt at very low interest
decimation: if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive
pete_dushenski: if they have to print to survive at 1%, for sure 10% will sting.
TheNewDeal: I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea
decimation: the best I can tell usian muggles exhibit 'learned helplessness' that moldbug writes about
TheNewDeal: because every muggle is basically in debt up to their necks
TheNewDeal: so basically it's something they should comprehend easily
TheNewDeal: except for the making monopoly money via treasuries
pete_dushenski: decimation: and why shouldn't they ? there's clearly no future for them, despite their panglossian pretenses of "first, best, largest ever"
decimation: "Other experiments were performed with different animals with similar results. In all cases, the strongest predictor of a depressive response was lack of control over the aversive stimulus."
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: but if muggles can afford the debt and "everyone else is doing it"... hardly seems like a problem worth the bother
decimation: if you randomly zap an animal long enough, he learns to lay down and be useless, even if he could prevent it with simple actions
pete_dushenski: until, of course, reality smokes them upside the head and gives 'em a spin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00042887 = 22.3441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00043051 = 14.5082 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70004 @ 0.00042953 = 30.0688 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107666 @ 0.0004352 = 46.8562 BTC [+] {4}
menahem: 1/2 way, but garzik increasing the block size
menahem: in order to help "startups grow"!!1
menahem: "3. Simultaneously, add a new floating block size limit, set to 1MB."
menahem: just got to Strasbourg and i'm 1/2 asleep from the flight
menahem: copped a last minute to Paris and took the train
menahem: yea, probably take some day trips to Switz and Germany
menahem: 2 weeks, then off to Ottawa for Canada day celebrations.
menahem: mostly to meet the in-laws :D
menahem: prob the best time to be in Ottawa, though.
menahem: Yea lemme ask my Swiss bidness partner
menahem: he said it's nice. hey, btw, pete_dushenski you're off Formula 1 now ?
pete_dushenski: fuck these turbo engines, wide tires, and supercomputer aerodynamics
menahem: ha, you had sold me on it when you went to MTL last yr.
menahem: pete_dushenski, i gotta roll. i'll be on tomorrow all rested up. cheers all.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: when i wrote "ancien fiat regime" it wasn't a typo of "ancient fiat regime"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Then you gotta make your grammar work
jurov: it's meant the bourbon era? i don't get it
BingoBoingo: fixed. One can't simple inject roman words without injecting roman grammar
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.19, Best ask: 245.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.65000, Last trade: 245.19, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None
davout: mircea_popescu: ^ 218 EUR/BTC
mircea_popescu: bwahaha TheNewDeal 's "anti establishment slacks" omaigerd.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive << actually even 1% is unsustainable atm.
mircea_popescu: which is why all this song and dance about recessions, low rates and permanently unelevated plateaus
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea << they don't care one way or another, because they aren't actually invested in the thing. it's a meal ticket. who is going to care whether their meal ticket had a good day at work or a bad day at work ? it's work, it's what it does, fuck it.
mircea_popescu: which is why setbacks in the indies caused commotion in london, but also why utter rape of the us throughout all its engagements since blackpresident and perhaps before don't even raise an eyebrow.
mircea_popescu: who the shit cares ? the "citizens" certainly don't. just as long as the new, improved, electronic and digital food stamps make it on time.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.91, Best ask: 247.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 247.89, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: mebbe because donald trump just announced his presidential candidacy.
pete_dushenski: and everyone's worried he's going to use the last few drops of water to greenify another golf course
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.0, Best ask: 251.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.84000, Last trade: 252.0, 24 hour volume: 32018.7302065, 24 hour low: 235.5, 24 hour high: 247.1, 24 hour vwap: None
funkenstein_: space, the final frontier. to boldly go where no chumpatron has gone before
jurov: lolk i forgot to put "instantly"
pete_dushenski: at this rate, $3.4 mn for space porn will be 10 btc by tuesday.
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 13:45:36; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local social
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00043555 = 6.555 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: eh idk how good i really am; I'm finally starting to break even in USD terms I think
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: your skill is measured in your performance in btc terms
pete_dushenski: mebbe it's too soon to say that you're more than just lucky
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00042046 / 0.00043555 (4516394 shares, 1,899.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00034281 / 0.00039037 / 0.00043555 (17417074 shares, 6,799.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032758 / 0.00043555 (117158331 shares, 38,379.04 BTC)
danielpbarron: i didn't see mpoe going as high as it is right now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00043555 = 12.9358 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34770 @ 0.00043561 = 15.1462 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: s.mpoe may have some relation to today's btc bump
jurov: but iirc someone did check for correlations and there was none
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00042681 = 4.9937 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:21:13; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
pete_dushenski: alf is definitely of the old skool, old country judaism : expects life to be rapey and generally full of suck
pete_dushenski: the optimists found their ways to the colonies where they could dream of valhalla, much to the detriment of art, goodness, etc
ascii_field: (hence why this is the only aspect of judaism that survived in su)
mircea_popescu: nah, the one aspect of judaism that explains why judaism survived at all survived in su too :
ascii_field: this too presumably lives somewhere. but i will have to take mircea_popescu's word for it
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:59:10; ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler!
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assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:33:23; Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:42:33; decimation: seems to me that he's going senile
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assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:45:25; mod6: staggers the imagination
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jurov: would we have ever heard of bitcoin if satoshi eschewed windows?
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ascii_field confused. wtf good did it do anyone that he used winblows ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: you got the preport from people who used it on linux?
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mircea_popescu: jurov yes. all the people that insisted and eventually got me to check it out, on both episodes, run open source stuff
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assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 14:18:50; pete_dushenski: and i'll always have a giant boner for lindsay lohan
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BingoBoingo: cazalla: What's the shame. She made money young and nao does what she wants?
lobbes: BingoBoingo: shame due to her becoming a walking corpse
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Maybe she's secretly trans-zombie but not out of that closet yet?
cazalla:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165022 <<< two of those adverts sport "made in australia" (bonds and jockey).. there was a bonds factory not far from where i grew up and my mother would take us in there now and again to buy factory seconds as it was cheaper.. in they end they closed up shop and moved to china
☝︎ cazalla: BingoBoingo, lobbes pretty much has it, girl isn't even 30 yet believe it or not
cazalla: mind you, i'd still fuck her
jurov: anyone else got likely scam from azelphur.irc@gmail.com ?
jurov: "Hello my friend , how is going, long time i didn't see u on IRC .When u have time pls email me i have some offer .Thanks"
Azelphur: heh, not my address / not an address I control.
Azelphur: there has been some guy on a mission impersonating me on OTC recently, must be the same fellow.
BingoBoingo: Replied saying no, not at this price figuring it was legit.
punkman: do these come at your gpg email address?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00044046 = 2.7309 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 20:30:24; mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
mike_c: does anyone around here know anything about the internals of the bitstamp trading engine? or maybe an engineer who works there?
jurov: mike_c: why? kako had some rumors
mike_c: i feel like i have a problem similar to theirs.. I've got a transaction engine running in c#, but websites built in python.
mike_c: I know their site runs off django, but i seriously doubt their trading engine is python
mike_c: I'm curious how they handle communication between those pieces
jurov: api goes straight to trade engine, i guess
mike_c: but you still must have a lot of data sharing. two software stacks that hit the same database? seems problematic to manage
mike_c: or you have an api that handles everything they have to talk to each other, which also seems like a pain.
jurov: how would the db hard to manage?
mike_c: change in the db, gotta mirror that on both codebases..
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mike_c: gernika says their trading engine was written in node.js as of a couple years ago..
jurov: !s kakobrekla mysql backup
trinque: eh not necessarily; they'd be hitting the same db but for different reasons
jurov: !s kakobrekla mysql
gernika: This was roughly around the time of the scam foundation's first conf in San Jose.
kakobrekla: iirc they had a single process with a half a second sleep each time for engine
gernika: ah shit - that's right they were usnig node.js for the price ticker
mike_c: greater number of software stacks = greater success
trinque: mike_c: anything that might be duplicated between two things accessing the db could be a view in the db instead
trinque: tends to be my opinion that people have largely forgotten the art of database views
mike_c: yeah.. i guess i'm thinking about business logic. needs to be separated very cleanly for this to work.
trinque: all that hairy node/django/whatever... it all tends to be poorly written substitutes for db queries
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cazalla:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2586559 "On average, Bitcoinist has 350,000+ unique visitors a month with 550,000 page views, and this is increasing every month." it's a press release mind you.. it's growing so much they're discounting their ad spots!
assbot: Bitcoin News Platform Bitcoinist.net Experiences Rapid Growth Announces 30% Discount For Advertisers - Press Release - Digital Journal ... (
http://bit.ly/1TrxUJA )
ben_vulpes: and django does so much thinking for me!
mike_c: it says so on his webpage
trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah and django has a sweet conference!
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: you ever get the rng working ?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: need a digital-analog capture story
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: no you don't. it's a logic-level out!
mike_c: da fuq are those? porcupines?
ben_vulpes: what hardware an i use to capture that, though? i'm blocked on true serial capture until i procure a device that has true serial in
BingoBoingo: porcupines and that hand would likely have quills embedded already
mike_c: heh, yeah. cute little buggers.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: or logic analyzer (unlike the affair i described last week, this doesn't need a fast one)
ascii_field: if you own so much as a 1970s-era analyzer, it'll do
BingoBoingo: All day today there has been a rather spectacular box turtle nomming on the slugs in the front flowerbeds, hope the little dude settles down there for a bit
BingoBoingo: "If a pet hedgehog appears to be gaining too much weight, it is important that the hedgehog’s caretaker cut back on high fat foods and increase exercise. Hedgehogs vary in size so there is no "goal weight" for a hedgehog, but if they can no longer roll completely into a ball it is a pretty clear sign of obesity" << hedgehogs can become hedge hamplanets too.
BingoBoingo actually saw and AMBULATORY! galaxy today at the liquor store. Circumfrence roughly 0.8x height
ben_vulpes: i've seen a bit more of the same lately.
BingoBoingo: Was driving suspiciously nice car and carrying brown bag out at 8:15ish in the morning
BingoBoingo: Diameter is the one you can eyeball in profile view. Diameter 0.8x height.
BingoBoingo: circumfrence 0.8x height might not even qualify as planet sometimes.
thestringpuller: the real question BingoBoingo is why were you at the liquor store at 8:15ish in the morning?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Cheapest cigarettes in town
BingoBoingo: Also switched a big chunk of domicile's lighting to LED today so need liquor later.
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trinque: leaving apple free to modify the thing at will from that point forward?
trinque: mats: "ok google" without consent, loool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00042746 = 10.0453 BTC [-]
ascii_field: 'After upgrading chromium to 43, I noticed that when it is running and immediately after the machine is on-line it silently starts downloading "Chrome Hotword Shared Module" extension, which contains a binary without source code. There seems no opt-out config.'
mats: all this stuff referring to the OPM hack as "cyber katrina" is also great
mats: "cyber pearl harbor"
trinque: I'm sure the chinese would rather quietly blackmail people for a while
trinque: so which is it... is cyber-sekurity important, or does encryption "lead us to a dark place"
ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Just puts usg's loyal still more in debt
trinque: ascii_field: I think you're right that the most critical systems are held to a *much* higher standard than this
trinque: yet those critical systems may be completely surrounded by leper colonies of lesser employees' winderz boxen
ascii_field: what, of any consequence, as far as publicly known, walked away ?
trinque: maybe nothing, though if it had I might say otherwise publically
ascii_field: other thing is, only 'positive' items are even theoretically possible to authenticate. that is, if you find a leak purporting to be from the directorate-of-cracking-rsa, stating that 'sixteen quintillion bezzlars and still no result,' this could be disinfo. whereas 'here's how to factor $maxint on a pocket calculator' is testable.
ascii_field: in as far as i can tell, all of the 'compromises' of the past decade are cultivated reichstag fires, arranged to fatten the kompyooter insekoority 'industry'
ascii_field: and the agent of a particular compromise is the sysadmin who installed winblows, and only distantly and secondarily anybody else.
trinque: inconsequential breach == huge check to contractor X
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cazalla: mircea_popescu, $14.5 USD / 1K impressions for top 728x90 and 300x250 $9 / 1K impressions on the lower end
jurov: public notice: never open "blockchain" links in email
jurov: with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued
trinque: jurov: used curl, didn't spot anything; XSS?
jurov: no, that tx plainly does not exist. look very closely to the url
jurov: maybe there's some bad js too, but noscript blocked it
punkman: jurov, guy pretending he deposited to coinbr?
jurov: no, coinroll (but same applies)
punkman: guess he does this a lot if he made up a blockhain.info clone. gotta wonder who actually fell for it
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Azelphur: jurov: mind forwarding that email to me? I'm curious :)
jurov: which? the one "from you" or the "deposit"?
Azelphur: azelphur@azelphur.com be the real address :)
jurov: i quoted it here whole, there was only one sentence
jurov: or you want to see headers?
BingoBoingo: The reply looks like: "I know , i need them tonight ,it is stupid to ask ,but if u can loan me i will be happy + u get % from me . U get them back for 24h with 5% profit"
BingoBoingo: So, Jurassic World actually surprisingly good film. Improvement over the original in that it portrays people at their actual level of stupidity.
cazalla: might go and see it in a few weeks time, not too fussed on sitting through 30 minutes of commercials with a bunch of louts
cazalla: (i was actually tempted to go last night but settled on rambo@home)
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BingoBoingo: It takes just a few minutes of time to get over the gut reaction that the dinosaurs should look better, but the practical effects in the first movie were so good and inflation adjusted this one had a much smaller budget.
BingoBoingo: The dynamics of the human drama tho, very realistic even if the characters themselves are rather stupid
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: I'd like to watch. I thought it was filled of cliches.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Probably the best film out of Hollywood since "Million Dollar Baby"
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: wow! That is surprisingly to me
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: I may also be a flawed judge of films though.
BingoBoingo: I thoroughly enjoyed "The Highlander" as an example
felipelalli: ahhahaha well, I'll try anyway and I tell you!
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: what about "Transformers"? The worst film I watched ever.
BingoBoingo: If you are too risk averse you could always try the safe torrent and then pay option
BingoBoingo: Transformers kind sucked except for the visual spectacle of robot combat in the first movie and never even had that in the later films
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Are you familar with how to auth with assbot post split?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55500 @ 0.00041964 = 23.29 BTC [-] {2}
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: why gribble don't catch the ! commands in this channel as well? I use !gettrust to gribble in other channels.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Because in this one gribble only responds to ;; command
gribble: About as likely as pigs flying.
mats: felipelalli: same gribble, assbot takes ! so the trigger is different to prevent collisions
cazalla: BingoBoingo, turned an a to an an but other than that, gg
felipelalli: mats: but gribble also takes ! in other channels, but in this channel gribble ignores it.
mircea_popescu: is that some wrestler dude from back when i still did teenagers one at a time ?!
cazalla: mircea_popescu, that's him and he stretched as far as down under back then
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed it was the dude who lifted Andre the Giant
mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ?
cazalla: andre was bigger than himself down under
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ? << Yes
cazalla: GBANGA! (who is this guy lol)
mircea_popescu: also, heather clem looks made to be fucked on cam and naught else.
BingoBoingo: Also, the "Love Sponge" is a radio personality and not a fellow wrassler
mircea_popescu: "I should make it clear: we would have settled too, in the interest of fighting another day, if Hogan’s demands were reasonable and the story flawed in any way. But now that the trial is on, we intend to fight it as far as we need to and we can." = we have as much money as josh garza
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know like the assholes who keep music from playing on music stations in the morning so instead you set the car's radio to less shitty talk radio all day
mircea_popescu: cazalla i doubt they're selling anything whatsoever at those prices, but hey. the world was made out of pretense.
mircea_popescu: not this world, but a world somewhere sometime. let's pretend it was, at any rate.
cazalla: well if he has no intention to repay the loan, i'm sure he is happy to take anything he can get
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways from what I understand Nick Denton's peak wealth was right around 8-9 figure sum of dollars and he sunk nearly all of it on Gawker Media liberalizing everything. This is likely a move to justify outside investors covering his loss and letting USG propaganda outlet pass to other hands.
mircea_popescu: * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <jurov> with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued << nuts eh.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D << USG atm is in its "Opium Wars" phase except it is both Britain and China.
mats: it really pleases me that qntra works in lynx
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no way in fuck did anyone sink 1 billion into gawker
mircea_popescu: the entire budget for the thing's entire existence is a coupla mil or so. this spercifically discounting all pretense.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: 9's hundred million? But yeah couple mill per year. Even the first years Gawker cost a few million a year when it was one hired girl and the celebrity stalker because "viral" cost millions paid to Newsweek and other dead trees to get any attention at all.
shinohai: ;;later tell ben_vulpes compiled on Debian Jessie and Ubuntu 14.04
cazalla: if the price keeps going up so fast i'm gonna get fucked on that above $280 bet :\ pls wait 4 days kgo
BingoBoingo: mats: Well, if you are going to get a bull to cuck your wife, but you don't want black in your wife... limits your options...