asciilifeform: i fully expect that the folx for whom turd turns to sausage when it is decreed from throne in 100% grammatical latin, will carry on their php rewrites, cpp rewrites, etc. w/out skipping a beat. i have nfi what they even went to 'reflect' about.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, mircea_popescu's current selector worx a++ to select text in 1 para where no line breaks, and does not put in any spurious. but if you want to select multiple para, wai not put the table turd where there are already line breaks ? oughta be visually indistinguishable , neh ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: just about ~all since 2010 or so, per asciilifeform's notes. ( invariably there's a pdf turd passed off as documentation, or jpegs for guism, or in device drivers -- magick init binturds ; etc )
asciilifeform: the phf-style variant is currently sitting in #asciilifeform-test , btw, and can be diddled , put turd there and try to search for it, if it's in the test bot's log, search will return correct res
asciilifeform: i admit, i half-expected mp_en_viaje to pick up his skepter and declare 'this here is only working logger atm, and the breaking turd is a uniturd from bot, let errybody else lose the 6lines'
asciilifeform: as in, it gets auth turd from deedbot and you manually fed it to gpg ??
asciilifeform sees trinque's pov, many times was wedged on a problem where 'i have 95% of solution but for the remaining 5 -- ugliest turd ever seen' . but must agree with mp_en_viaje -- you can't get orig text from a hash, and can't vpatch if you aint got orig
asciilifeform: rright but who's gonna attempt debug of 50MB closed turd.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which nvidia hairball was this box running -- the opensores one, or vendor's turd ?
asciilifeform: afaik gcc's 'stack protection' simply consists of extra turd in stack frame, whose presence then is confirmed before a subroutine ret's. microshit, incidentally, has a similar one. BUT iirc they use diff sizes and contents of the turd.
asciilifeform: incidentally imho for almost any non-crypto application like the above, the FG 1GB demo turd would prolly suffice with plenty left over
asciilifeform: thing actually does a deedbot-style rng turd decrypt/confirm when pressed
asciilifeform: this experiment is fully reproducible by anyone with ch19 pressed and copy of the fg demo bin turd.
asciilifeform: aand for that matter, if you were to put in a random turd instead of the primorial, you will still get valid primes, will simply take longer (i.e. the prefilter won't work)
asciilifeform: this is sorta like what the heathen vps people do, but in principle could be a clean coupla-kB tmsr item w/out buggy multi-100MB turd.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's old gentoo with evil kmod turd from nv, currently
asciilifeform: imho the 'machine has 9000 fonts and each 1 is a gnarly proggy for turing-complete ball of 1m+loc c turd' is quite similar to the 'american shop where 9000 brands of toothpaste and each 1 fulla corn syrop' thing
asciilifeform: it was 'designed' like dog 'designs' turd as it emerges from arse.
asciilifeform: a turd by any other name, would smell as sweet (tm)(r)
asciilifeform aint about to use a closed turd compiler , regardless, for any practical work. but still finds the q of 'is there a standard-compliant adatron somewhere' not wholly uninteresting
asciilifeform: it is ! it's the turd the gimp folx replaced ye olde tinyscheme with
asciilifeform: ( fwiw i (and other ru warez folk) like ancient at&t 'djvu' format, it is moar or less jpeg with optional ocr searchable track. a 300MB pdf turd becomes a 2-3MB djvu. )
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc finding & killing whatever piece in gcc outputs variant turd and makes bins unreproducible is on ave1's conveyor
asciilifeform: koch's turd, despite being implemented in c, with no bounds checks, actually loses to ch14 ffa , for inputs of same ~width~ -- despite fact that he doesn't constanttime and thereby gets to skip massive work
asciilifeform: the 1st step to adaizing a cpp turd is to remove the cpp threadisms, they will not only not work with ada's sane tasking but actually destroy the guarantees of the latter☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possibly i said this before, but i am not fond of arm -- it is horrendously ugly, complex, single-vendored ( the multi-vendoritude is an illusion, they all use same british turd mask ) . i picked it as 'best horse in glue factory' for the application, is all.
asciilifeform: 7 folx want to load, each needs a, what, 4GB+ buffer (if turd is 1GB)
asciilifeform: in other lulz, asciilifeform recently disasmed a raid card fw turd ( of the type found in dulap, s.mg, and several other boxes asciilifeform built ) ; turned out that it's ~little-endian ppc~, which i had nfi even existed; and on top of this, built in ~cpp~, which is also a 1st on my watch in re fwturds
asciilifeform: 'but hey we have smiling turd glyphs nao!'
asciilifeform: incidentally, is microshit still paying that derp megabux to 'maintain' his turd, i wonder
asciilifeform: it demands the vendor's turd to run ?! how is this 'reverse-engineered toolchain' then ?!
asciilifeform: the thread provoked by reading dulap l0gz this morning, and asciilifeform noticed a mysterious upsurge of heathen interest in ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491985turd collection. by all rights they oughta be seeing it as jpeg encrusted with tmsr ad banners etc☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing does contain 'launch codes' presently. it needs some actual disentanglement, after which i expect pgp-turd traffic will be minimal ( just how often we change launch codes ?? ) and 99+% of the thing is to be posted in realtime.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'd like to make as much of that massive txt turd we've been pgp'ing back and forth, public asap -- it is unseemly imho that simple factoids like ' today BingoBoingo was cured of yellow fewer and took delivery of 5 hdds' are 'classified', wtf
asciilifeform: and it claims a specific process that supposedly produced the sboxes, but gives only pseudocode with a handwave ' if has desired properties, then keep sbox ' turd
asciilifeform: here's what i was able to find , via the pdf turd : base charge is 700 -- 12000 euro / mm^2 , depending on density ( 0.35uM to 28nm ); this gets you 25 ~bare~ dies , + 'phree 15 if available' ;
asciilifeform: and they're regularly gassed, wherever, thailand or pretty much any turd world shithole, usg dun even have to break a sweat
asciilifeform: 2 get same time turd, then collide, neh
asciilifeform: the way i'd do it, is to have e.g. 1400 byte packets , and they're authenticated (e.g. client gets seekrit 512bit turd, and keccak(turd + payload) is a field in those 1400) , and ~then~ there is a flag for whether the packet is part of a e.g. 8 byte sequence that gotta reasm, or not .
asciilifeform: it dun even switch on w/out a large fw turd, which i'm guessing mircea_popescu did not have
asciilifeform: automagically finds the c turd, for instance.
asciilifeform: interestingly, the dram init turd differs from the stock rk3399. and doesn't seem to be published in their repo. i'd like to try ripping theirs, but so far not even able to determine where it ends and their booter begins
asciilifeform: the reason for this, i do not know, could be the gcc6 idjicy (my uboot , once i nixed the check for gcc6, builds without eggogs, but who's to say re output), or could be wrong magic turd, or who the fuck knows
asciilifeform: btw interestingly, the most recent uboot ~builds~ on ave1's gnat, if one comments out the boobytrap. ( whether the resulting turd ~runs~, i do not yet know, but it builds without eggog)
asciilifeform: open one of those junipers, there's a vlsi turd that actually does the routing.
asciilifeform: nao i need a payload (i.e. substitute for that 8MB turd the thing comes with.) lessee what phf meanwhile came up with.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's standard microshit turd, 'what files luser has open and to what pos' etc
asciilifeform: somewhere i also have a pci bus init turd, etc
asciilifeform: btw if anyone wants to experimentally observe the zombie effect, can do it with ordinary gnu 'screen' -- when opened on a tty with blocking i/o, will routinely leave zombie turd instead of properly terminating, then hours later you find that tty is wedged, and discover 9 copies of 'screen' in process table.
asciilifeform: (for expert entomologists only!) https://archive.fo/Nnvbl << choice turd, by associate of the infamous adelberger, re weber ( who was anathemized and 'unhappened' ) , even includes hair-raising passage re how 'generous and accepting the physics community was , to keep publishing him'
asciilifeform: phf: if you are able to build the usb snake -- lemme know which cr50 turd ver is in your box☟︎
asciilifeform: so far i did find how to disable #wp signal on the h1 ( it tracks the battery-triggered #wp ). the way updater works, it permits flashing in any old turd, and it goes in a temp slot, which only on next boot gets ecc-sigchecked
asciilifeform: btw the 'h1' turd is a mass of c crapola, chances are there's an overflow somewhere
asciilifeform: i dun recall if i mentioned : as of coupla wks ago, no moar 'emerge portage' on asciilifeform's-ban-masks gentoo boxen : it now ~demands~ gpg2 turd.☟︎
asciilifeform: musltronic static elf does seem to contain ~something~ that varies; looks to be the right size for timestamp turd. definitely on the conveyor.☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: or at least will be, once we find and kill with fire whatever turd it is in gcc that shits current unix time into the bin☟︎
asciilifeform: sorta like, you dun care necessarily if somebody steals a turd that a bird shat into your garden. but on other hand, if somali pirates steal a tanker of guano from your guano fleet...
asciilifeform: ave1: current version seems to build 1) working pc compiler 2) dynamic-turd arm64 compiler 3) pc-to-arm64 cross compiler
asciilifeform: it is not possible to say this except when you've never tried to disasm a multiMB turd, what can i say.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: his latest script barfs on account of expecting to load a turd from shithub
asciilifeform: ( where you apply a magictransform to the whole rfc4880 turd, to get a lattice and get the privs; or at the very least, diddled rng that gives e.g. 48 bits of possible keyspace, so nobody finds straight collision, but their asic can walk it, or the like.
asciilifeform: deedbot gets rss turd that is a cached copy, generated asynchronously
asciilifeform: the ways these typically end : a) (most common) simply evaporates, no record of wtf happened to the case b) violator supposedly kowtows, 'complies' -- which 100% of the time in practice consists of putting up a tarball ~with the lifted orig turd~, none of the 'viral' provisions of gpl are given any attention at all , but hilariously the plaintiff ~eats this~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it gets 'better' : 9000 forks, of various degrees of 'declared', many also pissing on gpl and distributing either closed turds, or turd + source and the latter on examination does not build . pestilential in embedded world
asciilifeform: if i wanted to use google's turd, i'd use it
asciilifeform: ^ not a single thin in there that isn't a turd on the road
asciilifeform: where's the necessary inca element in compressing a highly redundant turd before moving it ?
asciilifeform: think, if EVERY patch requires global regrind of all of world history, you ain't using v, may as well throw out all of the unnecessary equipment -- you're passing a monolithic turd around☟︎
