tmsr - Log 2019-06-17

BingoBoingo: An update on the power situation: Since the local power company must compensate customers for outages here, today's events incurred a rather substantial damage. Curious to see the fireworks that'll happen whether or not UTE pursues the money from Argentina's power company.

BingoBoingo: Also back to exporting electricity to Argentina though unsure what load on their grid they could be satifying given their very slow restoration of luz

asciilifeform: far upstack : this is typo : correct mips in question is the 'r3000'. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-15 19:14 asciilifeform: aim is a 'mips 4000' compat. item (for ease of hardwarization, when time comes) if anyone cares. and at some pt will also have to port gnat, cuntoo... to it.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, so do you have power now ?

mircea_popescu: in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917374 obscura : apparently the "just as good" (spoiler : not very good) replacement is something called "paxum". also the hardcore wannabes / rape victims gathered around "ethereum" made a localethers something or the other clone, of course. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-05 22:05 Mocky: localbitcoins decides to turn away all their remaining legitimate users in. RIP LBC http://archive.is/kfpKC

mircea_popescu: (ethereum people are really 100% about bitcoin, kinda like how us-based, nominally "protestant" supposedly independent "churches" are 100% about catholicism ; or us-based "nigger hating" / "taking down the zog machine jew by jew by jew" "white power" groups are 100% about please fuck my wife now, she's ovulating. it's the us thing, don't ask me to explain it.)

mircea_popescu: i guess #metoo actually says it all.

mircea_popescu: !!v 0BEF5A558D705BA88015F05C00F9C0EC9AE558BBB0046AB8AA9B1301F07DA922

mircea_popescu: trinque, hey, were you gonna do something about that count so it's not lifetime but "currently active" ? or where was the discussion left at

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have power, Uruguay in general has power, rack appears to have never lost power.

BingoBoingo: Within 8 hours, most of Uruguay had power restored. Apparently across the river that was not the case

mircea_popescu: alrighty then!

BingoBoingo: What is more dificult to discern is whether Argentina is restoring their power and how quickly

mircea_popescu: fuck 'em

mircea_popescu: there's absolutely nothing argentina needs power FOR

mircea_popescu: electric power or any other kind of power.

BingoBoingo: Especially not since their are importing luz to run resistive heaters that don't do SHA-256

mircea_popescu: they can do whatever it is they do without. without power, without anything else. in fact -- they could do whatever it is they do just as well without existing at all.

mircea_popescu: hopefully next june.

mircea_popescu genuinely hopes argentina altogether fucking ends, both in aggregate and in all individual components.

mircea_popescu: should never have been permitted to exist in the first place, unseemly fucking abscess on the butt of the world.

BingoBoingo: Not unprobably. Whatever Argentina's bureacrats do by candelight tomorrow is probably going to piss off both rotary-guays

BingoBoingo: If Argentina's fuckery took Paraguay's dam out of sync and damaged anything there aren't enough turkeys over there to resolve that tort

BingoBoingo: 1860s all over again except triple alliance is Brazil and the two guays against Deptitina

mircea_popescu: yeah, the more modern, mroe efficient dam gear squeezes that extra % at the cost of all sorts of intolerances. you can't run a dam on no load

BingoBoingo: Deeper investigation after the Qntra on the subject turned up the interconnect station that shat the bed was taking input from the Salto Grande Uruguay and Argentina share the frame of in addition to the big Paraguay dam

mircea_popescu: too bad slavery's no longer the default resolution of tort.

BingoBoingo: Anyways the Uruguayos did demonstrate they are not as fucked as the Argentines by at least an order of magnitude, maybe two or three will be demonstrated by July first

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, "short windows of time"

mircea_popescu: in light of the marked tendency of your last dozen or so articles, is it the case you're sorta training in the corner for a trishophood ?

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in #harem news, tangle (tm) wrist-bound but otherwise nude raver girlies make for a pretty... well, interior decoration, how shall we put this.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, fixed. trishophood would be some ways out. The last dozen few month's blog posts are mostly thought and note organization.

BingoBoingo: Throwing out how the world appears to work as I understand it for the readers because I have the good fortune of having good reader who can rattle me closer to correctness if I am too far off

BingoBoingo: Anyways, punchline of the last one is that the worst sites in the US aren't on the list because USG.MIL

BingoBoingo: Follow up with some less headlined but egregious USG sites will probably be baked in a couple months.

hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-17#1918429 << paxum pulled plug on btc in 2012, comes with AML verification for setup, etfc. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-17 05:49 mircea_popescu: in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917374 obscura : apparently the "just as good" (spoiler : not very good) replacement is something called "paxum". also the hardcore wannabes / rape victims gathered around "ethereum" made a localethers something or the other clone, of course.

mircea_popescu: hanbot, really ? they were making a big deal about trying to benefit from localbitcoin closure

asciilifeform: hanbot: i suspect that the entire idea of centralized bulletin board for 'buy & sell coin' is as intrinsically usgistic as that of a gox (i.e. centralized coin/fiat exchange). it makes for an irresistible target, and is why all to date eventually were killed & replaced w/ honeypot taxidermy of self

mircea_popescu: is this a different paxum maybe ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, all markets are centralized. how else would it work ?

mircea_popescu: market is, definitionally, where demand and supply ~come together~

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu himself had a piece re 'silk road' where 'some markets dun belong centralized, even if this makes for 9000x headache for user'

mircea_popescu: i suspect equivocation on 'Centralized"

asciilifeform: imho there's nuffin wrong with a board where folx post 'will buy', 'will sell', etc. problem starts when board operator purports to substitute own hands for users' correct use of wot

asciilifeform: that was the meaning of 'centralized' contemplated by asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: but ~that board~ is centralzied

mircea_popescu: and now ~that board~ is a readily available avenue of attack for the sort of morons who are threatened by naked women, slavery, nigger inferiority, what have you. as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/

asciilifeform: only in the sense that e.g. a concrete, particular electron is 'centralized'. but it is readily idempotent with other electrons. and simple board that does 0 moderation or faux-wotism is similarly idempotent.

mircea_popescu: obviously "nothing happens", until one day, when suddenly linus posts on his myspace page about how he's turned off a portion of github or w/e. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: this is nonsense. "idempotent" my foot. if it has a domain name, it has a domain name. if it has an ip instead, has an ip. if it uses a dns round robin, now there's the dns.

mircea_popescu: WHATEVER IT IS, you can only have a market if you control the city.

asciilifeform: so per mircea_popescu's model, problem of 'btc bazar' is 'uci-complete' ?

mircea_popescu: yep.

hanbot: mircea_popescu, zero mention of btc anywhere on paxum.com. there's pax*ful*, i guess. for some reason lists market price at a 9% discount, iono what kind of "market" it can be.

asciilifeform: i'm not 100% sold, but haven't with what to seriously disagree, so will buy

mircea_popescu: hanbot, paxful, you're right.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, consider the ~other~ problem of market.

mircea_popescu: definitionally, market is ~no barrier to entry~. if you have to buy a ticket to get in, it's no longer a market, it's a disco club.

mircea_popescu: whatever, burlesque show.

asciilifeform: dunno re 'not market' tho, plenty of market require substantial ticket to get in (very same mpex, or the old nasdaq et al etc)

mircea_popescu: i guess so ?

hanbot wonders what quantity of busypaperwork/waiting in line/befriending idiot doorkeepers suffices as standing for "paying for ticket"

mircea_popescu: any.

mircea_popescu: we're working on it.

asciilifeform: i dunno where exists this frictionless horse, the market with no entry cost. at the very least one needs working legs (or , in mechanized market, a working comp & net pipe ) neh

mircea_popescu: and don't you dare mention how it's slow.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, perfect money, like perfect markets, like perfect health and ideal love, are not of this world.

mircea_popescu: yet that perfect cifcle you don't have informs a lot more of your daily activity than whatever else.

asciilifeform: arguably summarizes what higher nervous system is even ~for~

mircea_popescu: right.

asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform is satisfied that the only final pill against http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-17#1918482 is 'gossip' net, approx. as pictured in mircea_popescu's piece & accomp. thrds. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-17 17:27 mircea_popescu: obviously "nothing happens", until one day, when suddenly linus posts on his myspace page about how he's turned off a portion of github or w/e.

mircea_popescu: right.

mircea_popescu: i don't come up with this shit because i have a very peculiar sense of humour, or for some sort of art project, or because i'm fucking bored some evening.

mircea_popescu: i'm just sitting around all day wondering why nobody can have any good shit. why ~EXACTLY~.

asciilifeform: it's an actual problem, and incidentally was quite obv. even prior, in ye olde warez-apocalypse days. simply happens that all the would-be 'solvers' gabriel_laddelized their 'solutions'

mircea_popescu: indeed it was ; and so it did ; and woe and sadness upon the half men riding their half-measured rabbits to battle.

asciilifeform: there's a lengthy rogue's gallery of these laddelizations, 'freenet', 'gnunet', etc

a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:15 asciilifeform: and 'Ian Clarke is the founder and coordinator of the Freenet Project...' << single-handed judas goat and jailer of who knows how many idjits who thought they were 'communicating seekoorely'

a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 17:36 asciilifeform: ( my sim -- converged!11 -- when i fed it... don lancaster's geiger rng tarball. )

mircea_popescu: usg.apple, aka not-apple. usg.*, === not-*

mircea_popescu: the current crop's motivation.

asciilifeform: incidentally imho for almost any non-crypto application like the above, the FG 1GB demo turd would prolly suffice with plenty left over

asciilifeform: ( lancaster's, that i ate , was considerably smaller, iirc no moar than 200MB , and did not need anyffin like all of it . )

a111: Logged on 2014-08-27 02:03 asciilifeform: bats_cd03: 'random' means one thing if you're running 'monte carlo' sims (digits of 'pi' work beautifully, as does 'A Million Random Digits with 100,000 Normal Deviates' (rand corp, 1955. book.))

asciilifeform always found it interesting that e.g. evolved nn sim, and many other related problems, work pretty well as distinguishing litmus for prngism vs trng

asciilifeform: 'naked eye' fooled by 'looks random!111', whereas process that actually gotta walk the solution space uniformly -- not.

mircea_popescu: myeah.

BingoBoingo: Numerals aren't always the best way to view certain qualities of numbers

asciilifeform: '[global notice] Hi all. We'll be restarting services in 5 minutes' << what btw happened to the 'migrate from fleanode' proj ?

mircea_popescu: it died where engineers had to talk to people.

mircea_popescu: entirely 0 human beings available, if counting by the criteria of "capable of getting a ircd federated by ANY other network"

mircea_popescu: and no, i am not AT ALL happy about it. quite the opposite, in fact.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did nobody answer the req ? or not even got as far as anyone asking

mircea_popescu: you were here, weren't you ?

mircea_popescu: it dweebed away once it became clear it's one of those things with talking to girls in them.

mircea_popescu: i guess the logical summation of this would be that we all sit down and make a pact