mircea_popescu: you're so far from any kind of shared priors, there's absolutely no possible result here.
asciilifeform: and the people who made devil's bargain with usg, supposed 'academics' who lie for money like the lowest crack whore does not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do regularly try to find some shared prior.
mircea_popescu: i would say the matter's come to its natural conclusion : dude's came up with any of the usual explanation of why i'm rich and he's poor ; and will continue with his idiotic tack indefinitely.
asciilifeform: hm i must've missed this thread
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is strictly impossible to have. he is dedicated to being stupid, and i suspect by now too old for any change to be even arguably +ev.
mircea_popescu: he'll die dumb.
mircea_popescu: !!rate kanzure -10 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-16#1715062☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-16 00:01 mircea_popescu: he'll die dumb.
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YVgGQ/?raw=true
asciilifeform: i suppose my interest is very narrowly entomological -- i'd like to know if d00d is boneh or a dupe.
mircea_popescu: !!v C30B3B4F67776A274252904D8A17A0398AA923BD70A162B5CF9F139CD46E21BE
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of kanzure from 1 to -10 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-16#1715062
asciilifeform: but my telepsychiatron is broken, so can't say.
kanzure: can you give me proof of poor here. wat?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect that distinction is not meaningful. pregnant woman is neither whore nor victim. she's pregnant.
asciilifeform: kanzure: approx. that you might have $B but you can't send it to isis.
asciilifeform: and so it ain't actually yours.
asciilifeform: but not limited to this.
kanzure: so i should make my own isis
mircea_popescu: you should shut up of your own steam, really.
asciilifeform: step 1 is to not surround self with provocateurs, e.g. boneh & co.
asciilifeform: or will last approx as long as the new york deathray d00d.
BingoBoingo: !~step 1
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "step" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: !~step1
asciilifeform: step 2 is to omfg get a civilized chan log for yerself, kanzure , the .txt full of joinpart spamola is srsly sad
jhvh1: 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
BingoBoingo: !~step2
jhvh1: 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you gotta wait for the man to ~take~ to drink before he can quit it!11
BingoBoingo: Most importantly
BingoBoingo: !~step4
jhvh1: 4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: lol, the drink is a symptom
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the conceptualization of one being an utter fucktard can't happen in the comfortably idiotic.
mircea_popescu: alcohol is a muchly preferable addiction to usgtronic stupidity in that it actually DOES something.
asciilifeform: step 3 may be to stop doing dancytricks for darpa/iarpa/fucktarpa for pocket change, esp. if yer already 'rich'
BingoBoingo: !~step3
jhvh1: 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
mircea_popescu: but being dumb in the female way, especially if not biologically female, can not possibly have any physical effects.
BingoBoingo: ^ AHA alf
asciilifeform: i got out of that racket an' have 0 regrets
mircea_popescu: so it can also keep teh spirit captive ~forever.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: What if he grows fat. Gets tits and pubic fat mount over now tunnelcock?
asciilifeform: kanzure: if yur gonna fellate for money, fellate goldmansachs directly, for 9 digits, instead of the tardocrats for 7
BingoBoingo: USGtardism does that
mircea_popescu: still not fertile.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Fertile to Candida!
mircea_popescu: heh.
shinohai munches popcorn
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hey, he can be the beta provider in a fungus feeding reproductionship
BingoBoingo brb, sobertime
mircea_popescu: this is indistinguishable from being dead.
BingoBoingo: ikr?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the opportunity came and went, like these things do.
BingoBoingo: Except for some reason it's selling darpa rotting yeast drive and utterancing
BingoBoingo: Wait!
asciilifeform: phun phakt, even toilet at darpa needs key card
BingoBoingo: Which yeast for drive....
asciilifeform: place is set up like hollywood gulag of the fyootoor
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the actual next generation, http://68.media.tumblr.com/9af2cd6af1fe5d5456da8665cf4dc61b/tumblr_ntckg51hHH1scjhrvo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: oh did i mention the doorman has form for you to fill in triplicate ?
asciilifeform: afaik never even in original su, this degree of idiocy
shinohai: oh my
BingoBoingo: OMG kanzure IS an instrument of candidal intertrigo
BingoBoingo: Now this is novel
BingoBoingo: Or prolly not
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform vaguely funny anecdote re this : someone introduced woman to me in ba. clearly pro cocksucker who's seen better days ; had retired into a marriage but chosen ineptly, was now peniless trying to make ends meet out of realestate agenting.
BingoBoingo: anyways brb
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nah d00d dun work with darpa, he works with iarpa, darpa is stolid old pentagon, iarpa - nsa
mircea_popescu: she invites us to this art whatever the fuck, in a loft downtown. we actually go! and there, whole festival of locking doors ands where's your id and whatnot.
mod6: mircea_popescu: woah, the next generation is hawt.
mircea_popescu: i told the girly where to shove it, and she had to "ask" and whatnot. just as he was coming back witrh the "oh, no id needed anymore" updated policy i was getting the doorman to open the fucking door before i crack it open with his face.
mircea_popescu: moral of the story being, women left to rot in their own juice come up withe the same inept bullshit at darpa or at argentina.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: nah d00d dun work with darpa, he works with iarpa, darpa is stolid old pentagon, iarpa - nsa << This does not exonerate the yeast's herald from being a herald of his yeastly superiors
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as an ex-sufferer of 'hm, they're giving out money for dancytrick, how do i print 100MB using liquid shit on wattman paper' -- i grasp the fundamentals
mircea_popescu: that's you know, how it's going to be communicated to me that we're in an ~~~exclusive~~~ millieu of great value and vehement importance! by complicated locking mechanisms. cuz i
mircea_popescu: i'm a dumb cunt just like them and imagine the value of my precious kitty is related to how many textile layers i keep it under.
asciilifeform: but i cannot cure kanzure . if wealth ( and by all indications, d00d is 'dependently' wealthy at the least ) did not cure -- who can cure.
mircea_popescu: you can't unfix a fixed bitch.
asciilifeform: i have nfi with what one oughta have been whaked in the head, and with howmuch force, to do idjit humantricks for nsa for paltry sixfigses when no longer having to work to eat
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-15#1715000☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:50 mircea_popescu: sort of like a self-preservation mechanism.
mircea_popescu: for as long as he keeps with that, nothing can happen (tm)
asciilifeform: i can sorta understand starvation, in fact http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525791 etc☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 21:33 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did a tour of duty in the most godforsaken imaginable salt mine full of ex-nsa folk.
asciilifeform: but for the well-fed i cannot see what possible excuse.
mircea_popescu: there's many classes of stupid, a well populous one (at least in the us) is "intelligent who are affraid of it".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've heard the hungry but sane before, they don't sound like that at all.
asciilifeform: d00d ain't hungry, you can take that to the bank.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's no room for pity or such bs here. dood had his moment to epiphanize, missed out on it, what more can be said, or need be said.
asciilifeform: i dun think he has to pinch pennies for them microscopes.
mircea_popescu: you mean them microscopes that don't exist.
asciilifeform: notmuch. i'ma bbl, gotta paint some dna.
kanzure: why would i have you vet my epipenises?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can i lean on you the other way nao plox ?
asciilifeform: ohh aha 1s
asciilifeform: we never did see that product catalogue 'in 2 wks' didwe mircea_popescu
kanzure: i thought "in 2 weeks" is the handwave answer?
asciilifeform: !!rate kanzure -1 minor-league quisling; inquire within
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FYTXm/?raw=true
asciilifeform: !!v 3129E08CE0D3159D79FA46BEB345F332DEA19DB355A2C0349CFD09A65BBF1E79
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of kanzure from 1 to -1 << minor-league quisling; inquire within
asciilifeform: back go all things to their proper orbits.
mircea_popescu: kanzure you were judged and came out worthless ; waste the rest of your inconsequential time somewhere else.
mircea_popescu: !!down kanzure
asciilifeform bbl ferrealz
shinohai: Sorry to read about your click resetting earlier mircea_popescu .... didja get it back going?
mircea_popescu: nah not gonna.
shinohai: :/
mircea_popescu: gotta do smaller things till the client's in better shape.
mircea_popescu: it crashed again meanwhile.
shinohai: Longest click I have ever done was for diana_coman .... only took a few hours though.
shinohai: Thankfully, no resets.
mod6: click?
mod6: like duration of crafting?
mircea_popescu: mod6 he's talking eulora
shinohai: Yup, sorry bout that
shinohai: (Wrong chan!)
mod6: np at all.
mod6: fwiw, i logged in day or so ago to check and ensure at least on the surface, all was still well.
mircea_popescu: was it ?
mircea_popescu: you should have pretty high q stuff now, since the float.
mod6: i was able to log in, np, and my ecu had 10x'd
mircea_popescu: all oldsters do.
mod6: i made mention in #eulora, but was brief.
mircea_popescu: aha cool.
mod6: lol, and apparently non-specific.
shinohai: I haven't seen danielpbarron since the reset, hope he's ok. I still have his items.
mod6: (15:24) < mod6> looking good! << my apologies.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> you should have pretty high q stuff now, since the float. << ah cool! i'll check it out.
mod6: <+shinohai> I haven't seen danielpbarron since the reset, hope he's ok. I still have his items. << he's in-game now it seems
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, \i just bought myself 3mn cft. yum.
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i like the new cli-style merchant interface a lot better in priciple.
mod6: lol, i've got a stone pickaxe you made me once, that's now 1Mq
mircea_popescu: ha!
shinohai: O.o
shinohai: Yeah the cli-interface took a little adjustment but I kinda liked it once I figured it out
mod6: this game is awesome
mod6: i've got this 11yo kid begging me to get him into it.
mircea_popescu: lol!
mod6: friends kid.
mircea_popescu: anyway, next step is to actually declare a server api, with much better hooks for content delivery etc. should grow nicely once all that's in.
mod6: that'll be awesome Mr. P.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/tmsr-rsa-spec-extremely-early-draft/#comment-122947 << in other wtf questions.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in field conditions, http://68.media.tumblr.com/39c8446445e88cc7e78638dc70738c89/tumblr_nk7f5nCUZI1txqtqio1_1280.jpg
shinohai: Field conditions appear fine.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-16#1715201 << Does the question not make sense?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-16 01:34 mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/tmsr-rsa-spec-extremely-early-draft/#comment-122947 << in other wtf questions.
mircea_popescu: PeterL makes perfect sense.
mircea_popescu: the problem with the spec as-is is that you can't actually have a message of the same bitsize as the key, but must make it -1 ; this appears to be mentioned exactly NOWHERE, which is moderately concerning.
PeterL: and do you make it -1 bit or -1 byte?
mircea_popescu: bit should suffice ; but might not be practically useful.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, should prolly take a look at http://www.shoup.net/papers/oaep.pdf also
PeterL: what is this, mircea_popescu linking a pdf?!? the scandal!
mircea_popescu: (tl;dr : here's proof oaep is insecure ; original "proofs" wrong ; rsa-oaep is not insecure by accident, due to rsa properteis ; here's oaep+ fixed by me to actually work)
mircea_popescu: PeterL i also sent an email earlier this week. the world's ending.
PeterL: by the way, I stuffed the keccak ada stuff (and, speaking of OAEP, here is one of those too) into https://github.com/PeterMLambert/keccak since I don't have my own server up yet
BingoBoingo: OMG Police adopting filthy hippy tactics nao: "They marched to the on-ramp of I-64 at Clark Street, but officers on bicycles formed a human chain to prevent them from shutting down highway traffic. The protesters left that area without any physical confrontations."
PeterL: what pansy protesters
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Well, that was earlier in the day when there was still sunlight
PeterL: are they vampires, afraid of the light or something?
BingoBoingo: Breakingest news is pantsuit Mayor's home vandalized https://archive.is/OI5cQ
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Yes they are afraid of the light.
BingoBoingo: It's their taken version 'we r anon, no raep us back pls; k thx bye'
PeterL: With RSA-OAEP, one can encrypt messages whose bit-length is up to just a few hundred bits less than the number of bits in the RSA modulus, yielding a ciphertext whose size is the same as that of the RSA modulus. << It sounds like he is using a smaller amount of random bits than we are?
PeterL: Why is it that papers written by one guy still insist on using the "We" form for all the things they do?
BingoBoingo: Because fist ass unity takes two people
BingoBoingo: And from there custom spreads
BingoBoingo: http://www.whio.com/news/local/volunteer-franklin-twp-firefighter-suspended-amid-alleged-racist-comments/SyYlUbiF0KhY3TkzMed8oM/
mircea_popescu: peterl that's EXACTLY what i mean though. all that shit should logically read "whose size is bit-1 rsa modulus". but they don't.
mircea_popescu: i've no good explanation for this atm.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3833.96, vol: 56120.39785783 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3826.7, vol: 171531.85333457 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3402.8274, vol: 2949.49570000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3893.1, vol: 19856.3759805 | Volume-weighted last average: 3828.59926778
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2730&pr=1
BingoBoingo: "In the best moment of her life the hand that penned Are Men Necessary reached out and yanked one of those hooped earrings loose from its fleshy mooring. No sooner had I—Maureen Dowd with a memory of being a man—pulled the fake bangle back to that hated breast as the earlobe separated into two hanging gyro strips, the big brown fist that could have belonged to a heavyweight boxer crashed into that sanctimonious mouth, forever removin
BingoBoingo: g the teeth therein. "
BingoBoingo: USia apparently isn't alone. This happens in every Empire: https://archive.is/ncONB
trinque: http://archive.is/qthDj << meanwhile, swedes assfucking their politicians
trinque: figured snackbar til the "traitor" bit
BingoBoingo: Oh my: "According to a recent The Politicians Safety Survey (PTU), published by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, some 6.3 percent of elected politicians who were polled admitted having suffered a hate crime in 2014."
mircea_popescu: apparently the whole "cashless society" is working out great for the fucktarded "elite"
shinohai: http://archive.is/2WIUp <<< Black Labs matter
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-18#881892 << have this mirrored elsewhere?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-10-18 13:28 PeterL: so I converted that WASP pdf into a txt file http://btcscoop.com/WASP.txt
asciilifeform: mats: possibly BingoBoingo has one
asciilifeform: in other olds ( i dun think i posted this measurement ) the NAIVE modular exponentiator takes 51.3 seconds per 4096b a*b mod m , on the 'standard' test box
asciilifeform: ( the one on which other timings posted previously were made )
asciilifeform: this is using egyptian divider.
asciilifeform: and it needs to go down 25-50x to make for a usable rsatron.
asciilifeform: ( for comparison, a NONmodular exponentiation of same width on same box with same ffa takes 0.26s. )
asciilifeform: the difference consists entirely of division time.
asciilifeform: when bitness is B, a modular exponentiation takes B mod-muls and B mod-squares, each of which produces a 2B-wide item that gets div'd . that's 2B 2B-wide divisions.
asciilifeform: ( why 2B-wide ? because a multiplication or a squaring of B width produces a 2B-wide . )
asciilifeform: a truly eagle-eyed nitpicker will of course notice that... (r13) gurer pnaabg or fhpu n guvat nf abazbqhyne rkcbaragvngvba va ssn, vg vf nyjnlf zbqhyb ng zbfg gur ovgarff!
asciilifeform bbl, meat
BingoBoingo: mats: I may be able to put ine together this weekend. Prolly quickest to run pdf through text converter yourself.
mats: kindly mirror pdf? 'resist.com' ver referenced in log, has been taken down
BingoBoingo will also have to dig it out
BingoBoingo: http://thedrinkingrecord.com/wasp.pdf and a bonus http://thedrinkingrecord.com/Kaczynski%20-%20Technological%20Slavery.pdf
BingoBoingo: ^ mats
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> apparently the whole "cashless society" is working out great for the fucktarded "elite" << Aha, Butthole is what's left to take
BingoBoingo: WTF
BingoBoingo will fix
BingoBoingo: http://thedrinkingrecord.com/WASP.pdf << fxd
mats: sankq
BingoBoingo: ?
BingoBoingo: Ah, yw
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/illinois-government-places-unfunded-menstrual-mandate-on-local-schools/ << Qntra - Illinois Government Places Unfunded Menstrual Mandate On Local Schools
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3706.82, vol: 29000.20253554 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3717.2, vol: 86306.50495336 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3265.485874, vol: 2455.87790000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3768.7, vol: 10380.7635059 | Volume-weighted last average: 3710.36572004
BingoBoingo: In people who wish they were the ministry of games: "Earlier this week, when it became clear that a gauntlet in Destiny 2 resembled a "Kekistan" flag design that has been repurposed by neo-Nazis, developer Bungie was quick to apologize and work to remove the item from the game. Now, the developer is using a public blog post to try to explain how the symbol ended up in the game in the first place. Community Manager David "DeeJ" Dague writ
BingoBoingo: es that the gauntlet in question, which features a "kek" symbol that resembles the "Kekistan flag" popularized by 4chan, was originally created by the game's developers back in June of 2015. Dague says the gauntlet was one of many items in the game that "reference real world art, iconography, typeface, and other design elements" and that "some of the reference imagery featured the simple mirrored chevron shapes found in the finished piec
BingoBoingo: e.""
BingoBoingo: !!up spyked
deedbot: spyked voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: !~blocks
jhvh1: shinohai: 485614
spyked: o. hi BingoBoingo
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/costa-rica-de-noche-y-de-dia/ << Trilema - Costa Rica, de noche y de dia
mats: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-oil/venezuela-publishes-oil-prices-in-chinese-currency-to-shun-u-s-dollar-idUSKCN1BQ2D1
mats: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/trump-blocks-chinese-purchase-lattice-semiconductor-170914045430005.html
shinohai: Haha maduro is determined
asciilifeform: mats: lattice is the last remaining non-usg-owned fpga house. lizard gosplan terrified that it might get sold and specs for the high density fpga, opened
asciilifeform: ( after which xilinx & altera market will look like cisco's -- tame idjits only )
mircea_popescu: venezuela is pretty much a present day rhodesia.
mircea_popescu: fortified oil complex worth like 3rd in the world, and outside of that 20mn or so usg nigglets clamoring about gini indexes.
mircea_popescu: would make a splendid show to butcher the lot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not directly evident giving it to the state's people's something or the other is such a good idea in any case.