mircea_popescu: they wouldn't have discoverd it exists week-and-a-half after "having a solution" and buolding consensus etc
mircea_popescu: i don't think you fully appreciate just how braindamaged this "laughing gas of the future" actually is.
mircea_popescu: " Things are probably going to get worse before they get better." << ahahahaha.
mircea_popescu: "we won't bury the corpse until nsa provides a new trough"
mircea_popescu: usg agent wondering if the actual people fighting the usg are a "cointelpro style" "attack" ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger is this one of those guys you're friends with, then ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, this paste is a point-by-point example of sinful, evil behaviour.
mircea_popescu: there is nothing dingledine can ever do that can redeem him, because the manner in which he thinks is beyond salvation.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: he must be killed, publicly, and the carcass left to rot where it fell.
phf: ikea sells chairs and chair covers for those chairs. can buy covers in uk, etc. but not in u.s. fancy that
BingoBoingo: Milestones in pipe wrench ownership #2: When loosening a slip fitting the pipe decides to tear instead
BingoBoingo: #1 was boring, involved successfully removing burst frost free sillcock
mod6: well. lol, it's almost over.
mod6: time for me to work on the SoBA already!
BingoBoingo: Prolly US flame retardant vs EU carcinogen regulations
mod6: damnit. the spacebar on this thing is getting toast.
mod6: trinque ^ up a few lines :]
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 00:31 mircea_popescu: there is nothing dingledine can ever do that can redeem him, because the manner in which he thinks is beyond salvation.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> (though almost any imaginable mistake would result in MORE-phuctorable mods, vs less) << yeah this seems odd.
mod6: mircea_popescu: btw, did you want me to change tb0t to use '!' instead of '%'?
trinque: like the child-fucking kind
mod6: he has a van that says 'free candy'
trinque: mod6: wiki is the code that runs cliki.net
trinque: it uses the page title verbatim in the URL
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i lived in a ~hole for 20 yrs. << you can come live in my basement if you're tired of paying rent. i've even got a garden. :]
☟︎ trinque: sometime I could hack another field onto it; I'm not certain I like the thing (or wikis)
trinque: they're really a response to "tards can't into html"
mod6: you think i live in a teepee?
mod6: ahh lol fair enough.
mod6: offer stands if you ever get sick of the the 202
mod6: <+trinque> it uses the page title verbatim in the URL << ok i think I can just have shinohai change the page title then, thx!
mod6: <+trinque> sometime I could hack another field onto it; I'm not certain I like the thing (or wikis) << I don't love wikis either, but we need a place for quick docs.
mod6: so it works for the time being.
trinque: I don't see how it's better than html shat in a folder somewhere
trinque: if they are in my wot, sure
phf: i have that cockli box by the way. i'm probably going to spin up an instance on it, but if anybody wants to attempt that task, feel free to take over
☟︎ mircea_popescu: trinque tbh, i think wikis are a (braindamaged, dysfunctional, uncomprehending) response to the html-is-broken / transclusion issue discussed yest and etc.
☟︎ mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: that thread wasn't even about living conditions, but about being a hermit << saw that. figured, "hey, i've got a crypt he can live in if he wants..."
mircea_popescu: there's a serious problem with digital handling of text, as we have it atm.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ok just holler.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's vaguely inhuman, this. the scholar in me is constantly opressed by various shits. 1. "oh we don;t alphabet - pdf" 2. "oh you can't reference text snippet" 3. "oh we forget, what was this ? linkrot ?" and i think there's more
mircea_popescu: incidentally why the fuck is the web not native latex.
mircea_popescu: seriously, this is allowed, "graphics" that aren't svg and text that's not tex ?!
phf: mod6: there was a hosting provider guy behind the domain cock.li, was interviewed by mp, was selling a vps box access
mircea_popescu: scans as bitmaps are ~in the situation of wine as stum.
mircea_popescu: google has the patience to fuck with go, hasn't the patience to fix ocr ?
mircea_popescu: ocr is really a good fit for the markov chains as ai they do
mircea_popescu: i had an issue with an ocr that was TOO informed, kept creating single glyph fl and other wonders.
mircea_popescu: there's really no reason a 100% accuracy over 1mb text ocr can't be had today.
mircea_popescu: if proggy has no fucking idea modems don't go with macbeth a) it's not trained and b) everyone involved is fired.
mircea_popescu: "hm, i wonder how come these guys keep speaking about modems in non-modem context".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform self-trained like the markov nonsense works.
mircea_popescu: makes ten trillion parameters, sets them all to 0, then sets more and more to values
mircea_popescu: trained statistical model for ocr, either markov or whatever.
mircea_popescu: same principle as in machine translation, search engines, etc.
mircea_popescu: they work a lot the fuck better than dumb ocr present currently.
mircea_popescu: phf incidentally, how interested are you in the unholy art of probabilistic models ? it occurs to me that making a proper ocr would be a most respectable task, but not really for everyone.
mircea_popescu: there's worse fates to library text than being read once.
mircea_popescu: when you have to correct on average 1 error per book, which is where i expect this can be taken, it's just a breeze.
mircea_popescu: there doesn't exist currently any ocr package that uses a proper statistical model, and is self-trained on the text, and on all text.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1 error per 500 pages or less. how's that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform equations, chemical formulas, everything you can note down.
mircea_popescu: i was stuck publishing a pdf in my latest article because fuck me there's no sane ocr ;/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all elements recur ; all elements are made of parts which recur.
mircea_popescu: properly made model can learn rules of chemistry from reading chemistry books,
mircea_popescu: THIS is what competent (not great. competent, patient, insistent) programmers + 20nm process means. that we can have this in a box.
mircea_popescu: that we don't have this in a box is simply because nobody wants to do any work.
mircea_popescu: anyway - this is a correct wiki. a proper notation engine backed by a self-training, probabilistic model of language.
phf: i believe that was described in the "Sussman attains enlightenment"
mircea_popescu: use the fact that the machine as is, runnign whatever crap it runs, can still do millions of cycles a second, and can store billions and trillions of bytes.
mircea_popescu: ftr, i wouldn't take cyc for anything other than a fine guide of what not to do.
phf: i like the idea of using hidden markov models on ocr-ed text
mircea_popescu: phf there's two (or perhaps three) aspects here. one is, that it should first pass through the entire item (book or w/e), to adjust itself, and then go once more through it, on the basis of that, and then again. similar to how "page rank" works, once the result is stable it thinks it's done.
mircea_popescu: the other is, that it should keep context of "this text" ; separately context of "everything i ever saw in this language" and yet separately "everything i ever saw".
mircea_popescu: now 2 and 3 are iffy, for instance english-chemistry vs english-genre-fiction and english-trilema may be a more practical split than english vs french.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite so. it's palpably an elephant cemetery. won't do anything ever, because it's done by an ocd clean person.
mircea_popescu: if you've noticed, all valuable engineering comes out of filth.
mircea_popescu: phf and the third is that it absolutely should not make any concession to the finite nature of the universe. three billion trillion parameters ? OK!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's easier for me, i wrote it all anyway!
mircea_popescu: sedol lost to a machine that doesn't even know what beans are.
mircea_popescu: nobody can look at a go set and give you a position value. nobody.
mircea_popescu: the machine played dead reckoning not some sort of absolute evaluation of the eternal positions
mircea_popescu: "Dead reckoning dun work without gps". see, this is why cyc fails. this mindset.
mircea_popescu: "some notion" carries no water ; definitely early navigation was bereft of either understanding motion or destination.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it largely did work, out of thousands of tries a few successes. machine has space for many thousands.
mircea_popescu: (#$implies (#$and (#$isa ?OBJ ?SUBSET) (#$genls ?SUBSET ?SUPERSET)) (#$isa ?OBJ ?SUPERSET)) << wouldja look at this inept shit.
mircea_popescu: seriously, they're going to put the rules in by hand arbitrarily and expect the machine to do something with that ?
mircea_popescu: you do not. and more improtantly : you need no human anything in there. you wanna succeed in your own terms, go, succeed.
mircea_popescu: distinctly reminescent of 9yo me writing "utility programs" consisting of pre-selected arbitrary aditions and their results.
mircea_popescu: apparently only some people outgrow being 9, and lenat isn't one of them.
mircea_popescu: yeah, agreed, unlike cyc bs, that is a credible starting point
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Again, thanks. Too few people care about that.. :(
mircea_popescu: phf anyway, it's a very reasonable way to waste one's life. it can live on a server(s), connect via chatbot, solicit payment which'll work once trinque gets it added to deedbot... it's an actual biznis.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-01 21:28 asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts that lenat did not write eurisko.
a111: Logged on 2014-09-26 03:11 asciilifeform: there are two versions of the lenat story
mircea_popescu: then again it's rather common for people to do something smart early and then be shockingly stolidly dumb for the rest of their lives.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here.
☟︎ Framedragger: i'm prolly mostly afk / travelling this week but would be interested to discuss.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 00:28 mircea_popescu: Framedragger is this one of those guys you're friends with, then ?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: maybe i did fuck up in some very unique way. don't know. oh and the ip addresses are in random order, so there's that
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 17:15 asciilifeform: the historic ~0.1% popping rate of ssh keys has nothing to do with flips, and everything to do with embedded gadgets with no rng
Framedragger: asciilifeform: but have you considered that there are fewer implementations for ssh (and the better part of the ssh servers in the wild run openssh), and more implementations for all kinds of broken pgp? so it may simply be less likely to spot a badly generated ssh key.
☟︎ Framedragger: asciilifeform: but cross-checking makes sense, say if you do ssh-keyscan for a small randomized sample, nothing bad can come out of it. let me know if you want scriptz
gribble: mod6 was last seen in #trilema 7 hours, 28 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <mod6> phf: ah oh yeah.
jurov: lol i was then prolly mitm'd too.. aside from ~10 cases of obvious corruption (openssh won't even read them) i did not find any key with factor in 10000primes.txt
jurov: Framedragger, imo we should mix few interesting failures into the data. otherwise we risk getting kicked out from tmsr :D
☟︎ Framedragger: and maybe make sure some of those ip addresses are in /24's which also house chinese bitcoin miners ;)
Framedragger: or labour union websites but that may just cause a stroke and best to avoid stress induced fatalities
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 03:47 phf: i have that cockli box by the way. i'm probably going to spin up an instance on it, but if anybody wants to attempt that task, feel free to take over
mats: because mining has -ev outcomes for virtually all participants without some kinda competitive advantage
☟︎ thestringpuller: mats: well from a financial perspective, not a political perspective. at the very least bribe miners to vote one way or the other...
☟︎☟︎ mats: so you've moved the goalpost from 'our pool' to 'bribe miners'
shinohai: We got a Roger Ver in the making here!
mats: anyway, i think its premature to assume we need to influence miners one way or the other
mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no patience to read, but by now, "at MIT" is damning.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway. yes dingledine & other sleepers (reilly, whatever) push for chasteen and whoever the fuck else to "be hired", because that's how their job goes.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 10:01 Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here.
thestringpuller: mats: nah. if it's truly believed miners are well enough gripped by the balls, it's not a big deal.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 10:05 Framedragger: asciilifeform: but have you considered that there are fewer implementations for ssh (and the better part of the ssh servers in the wild run openssh), and more implementations for all kinds of broken pgp? so it may simply be less likely to spot a badly generated ssh key.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 11:47 jurov: Framedragger, imo we should mix few interesting failures into the data. otherwise we risk getting kicked out from tmsr :D
mircea_popescu: comrades, your production of failures per hectare is insufficient! comrade kosygin is displeased!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, i just tried to ssh to a few known home routers. no answer. try it yourself.
mircea_popescu: i suppose isps filter incoming for the domestic space (not out of any safety concern, just, to not sell a useful service, which is anathema in usian style economy)
Framedragger: i would like to scan the whole /0 0:65535 range some time though, i'm sure there'd be quite a few ssh servers lurking behind strange ports, and quite a lot of them could be old embedded gadgets. just speculation tho
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:14 thestringpuller: mats: well from a financial perspective, not a political perspective. at the very least bribe miners to vote one way or the other...
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: if you call punching someone in the dick when they get out of control a bribe...sure
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:41 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no patience to read, but by now, "at MIT" is damning.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what i'm more and more discovering is that the legends about the internet and the facts about the network (not just the internet, network in general) are very much at odds. consider a few examples : L1 : "many eyes means better code" ; R1 : "many eyes means bikeshed effect" | L2 : "Bitcoin has many nodes" ; R2 "yeah, like less than 50." | L3 : "there's many weak consumer grade boxes out there" ; R3 : "maybe in 19
☟︎ mircea_popescu: 96." | L4 : "there's no rsa collisions in the wild" ; R4 : "if you don't count the 300 or so phuctor found" and on and on and on it goes in this vein. at this point i do not expect any "common sense" held truth about any network to be any closer to reality than what miss america thinks on the subject.
mircea_popescu: what is and what is not ; what can or can not be done ; how things should be done etc experimentally benefits little from importing reasonable_expectations.h
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'll still be waiting for "proper" anything and everything. heck, we're still waiting for proper asciilifeform .
mircea_popescu: best thing you can have about a large UNSPECIFIED construct is a guess.
mircea_popescu: after the shocking revelations earlier this year, that really many things which seemed actually hosted properly (ie, own box etc) and on this basis assumed independent were really THE SAME ONE ITEM, i think even the 50 figure is generous.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the fact remains it's trivial to run gluster/galera on 5000 boxes and have what appears 5000 independent nodes that neverthelss have all the solidity of a puppet install.
mircea_popescu: but, factually, there COULD be other reasons behind it. such as you know, hosts offer centos 7 prestamped on dedicated boxes, and so therefore, everyone runs centos 7
mircea_popescu: anyway. the existential, fundamental, first and foremost threat to bitcoin is emerging to be, the essentially centralizing nature of the modern human. slave's born to live in empire, so if there's a lot of slaves, there'll be an empire. once nero died it wasn't a case of "ah fucking finally, now we can go back to republic". no, it was "WE MUST HAS EMPEROR! EVEN GALBA!"
mircea_popescu: so : they have the option to be varied in hardware. not only they don't take it : they AMPLY eschew it.
mircea_popescu: they have the option to spurn bullshit. they don't, they seek bullshit.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:39 mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.
mircea_popescu: oh, "the state attacks the family" no dude. the state moves in a vacuum you made.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this exists, obv. as much as a backup chain store is "dark node" after all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being, idiots are idiots, and if their favourite idiocy is denied in bitcoin, they reddit desperately until they find a doge/ripple/ether replacement.
mircea_popescu: in short : salvation can not come from the mass of people. the mass of people is here for one thing only, and that is to supply holocaust fuel.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:39 mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.
thestringpuller: everytime I hang out wiht my female friends and ask them about guys, its usually how creepy they are.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller has little to do with redditor per se, they find everything creepy for the reason and in the way pig finds everything too tall.
mircea_popescu: trinque no, they're saying "i got all the food i could possibly need and this clicker thing. wut ?"
trinque: his female friends must suck then.
mircea_popescu: you should see the local herps. "i like staying home and netflix".
thestringpuller: exactly. but unattractive in the way of "get the fuck away from me I wouldn't fuck you if you were the last man on earth"
mircea_popescu: and the shit they netflix isn't even fit for in-flight entertainment, admittedly a low bar.
mircea_popescu: the temptation to vegetate is great. absent a driver, plants will plant.
thestringpuller: trinque: no. most of my female friends prefer "actual guys" you know the ones who don't live at home in their mom's basement jerking off to girls on reddit all day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and it's not even fucking inborn, it's TRAINED! whip "lazy" girl that got to 20 and never achieved anything, she becomes in a year or two as self-driven and capable as you'd like it.
mircea_popescu: take any girl, stick her in the "modern democracy" box, she becomes fat.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 13:39 mats: because mining has -ev outcomes for virtually all participants without some kinda competitive advantage
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492032 << the problem with this approach is that bribing is for losers. i for instance never bribed anyone, THEY BRIBED ME! because what the fuck is this, i'm going to pay derpy mayor/judge/whatever ? how about he buys his wife from me each year for the love of fuck!
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:14 thestringpuller: mats: well from a financial perspective, not a political perspective. at the very least bribe miners to vote one way or the other...
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:21 mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yea, i'm sure they do, until "real guys" say "bitch, get in there and make sandwiches" at which point "real guys are too hard and redditards are too soft and i'ma spend five hours on the phone with my "friend" ie exactly equivalent part."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You forget today's American girl happiy makes a sandwich, but can't hold itself together enough to make it to the next room with out eating the sandwich (repeat x5 times)
mircea_popescu: this reminds me of the joke with the alchie. you know it ?
mircea_popescu: lol ok ok! so alchie takes a bad fall while drunk, gets huge bruise on forehead.
mircea_popescu: three days later alchie calls doc office in a passion. "doc, wtf do i do, i can't lift alcohol above my mouth."
☟︎ thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: depends on if said guy has "bitch dependency" syndrome or not.
thestringpuller: A disease that leaves a person addicted and dependent to a bitch. If that bitch decides to leave him/her, that person becomes an emotional train wreck and does nothing but lay around and mope. In worst cases, that said person would think he/she is in an R&B music video- something worse than self-mutilation.
thestringpuller: The only cure for Chronic Bitch Dependency is learning how to control the bitch and make her behave- hit the bitch if she doesn't do what you say until you achieved desired results.
mircea_popescu: sit around, write bad poetry while torturing a guitar, do a lot of pot, be all you know, "sad" an' whatnot.
mircea_popescu: what, there's no bullying so nobody's gonna fuck your shit up for being a loser and admitting it.
mircea_popescu: now not only you don't have to put up with her, but it's POOR YOU!!11
mircea_popescu: no, as in the 11 or 95 yo that lets people in cinema hall
mircea_popescu: ahahahah check it out, black community came full circle! from usher to usher! one century of revolutionary progress.
mircea_popescu: (where revolutionary means what it in fact means - what the earth does around the sun is a revolution)
thestringpuller: one day Bieber will run off with your wife, but then again I guess that's the point you were making with shitty American girls.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check it out, the top hit is about how he wore a don't trump america jacket.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure this'll lose trump some votes in the 12% black + 4% lgbtdskfhkejrhdfg community, and gain him some in the 78% white and pissed group.
mircea_popescu: crisis of representativity, this is it. when people are so confused about what they stand for and whom they stand before, they end up achieving counter-intentional results.
mircea_popescu: and, in classical theory, crisis of representativity is always resolved through open warfare.
mircea_popescu: from the two kids in schoolyard ("ce ma, te crezi smecher ???") to the empire falling apart or uk/argentina going to war notwithstanding the disaster it is for both, crisis of representativity -> conflict.
mircea_popescu: and obviously enough, jewish groups trying to boycott german goods in the 1930s us is tghe exact equivalent of obscure rapper dude saying things about trump to an audience of obscure wanna-be rapper, wanna-be gay, wanna-be mit etc dudes.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:55 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what specifically did you have in mind ?
thestringpuller: i imagine though best case scenario, power rangers takes mod6's patches and merges it into prb
a111: Logged on 2016-03-05 15:15 mircea_popescu: i suppose IF the july many-fork time comes and trb has nothing to offer then it might as well close.
thestringpuller: I don't see a good scenario where TRB could deploy a fork i.e. "the prequisite".
mircea_popescu: you're confusing things. everyone but us deploys a fork.
mircea_popescu: o noes, guyse, why is eth dropping ? i thought they fixed it!
deedbot: drizztdourden voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: these two are not specifically related, they're separate items.
mircea_popescu: item A is a discussion of what at the time was a possible outcome, something of the kind of "if we don't fortify these walls and enemy army comes over, we're fucked". this has been muchly degraded meanwhile, principally by "well, every march lord on their path has harried the fuck out of them, and so not much of an army left".
mircea_popescu: item B is a discussion of peace, ie, what's the absolute minimal required basis for an agreement.
mircea_popescu: necessarily, in order for such an agreement to be had, "everyone" must deploy "the prerequisite".
thestringpuller: Aha. "peace" is the part I didn't understand. "the prequisite" is a treaty, not a war proclamation.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, random derp on twitter, "Can anyone point me to a summary of solidity exploits and common patterns to avoid them?". really bitch, you want the COMMON solution ? common fucking MADE the exploits! holy shit.
shinohai: This was covered in trilema article, no?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Common is also a black man who sings, but he acts more. Far less Tyrone than Usher though.
mircea_popescu: "David Chasteen hired a law firm and that members of the list should have no contact with David Chasteen or discussions about him." << what the fuck is this crap ?
mircea_popescu: dude, i'll discuss whoever i please. ESPECIALLY some usg tool that meanwhile took posturing lessosn.
mircea_popescu: my right to mock the shit out of idiots is fundamental and can not be abridged.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "i gave at the common office, mr exploit, pls don't fuck me."
mircea_popescu: the only error there is to imagine "against their will". no dude, literally, it is built by the slaves.
mircea_popescu: they, out of their own idiocy, FORCE otherwise employable folk to be their massah.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sometime btw, someone should undertake the job of finding the number of the exploit. you know, do with the maths or system theory or something, like that lisp thing.
mircea_popescu: then everyone can have the number of the exploit embroidered on their underwear and there'll be no more exploits.
mircea_popescu: (btw, best if it comes out small. say up to three digits. two best.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a nononon, this isn't a count. this is THE NUMBER OF! you know how they say "i got their number" ? like that!
a111: Logged on 2014-04-29 22:56 asciilifeform: dijkstra once read a lecture, and exclaimed 'how many bugs shall we tolerate?!' one wag stands up - '3!'
mircea_popescu: it's not that there's 666 devils. it's that 666 is THE NUMBER OF!
mircea_popescu: it's the number of! say if we knew 97 is the number of solidity exploits, then solidity would finally be solid.
mircea_popescu: also not too much math squigglies they make sally's head hurt.
mircea_popescu: seems altogether just a "ms office shanonizer" job, they got stuff from the internets and copy-pasted it into a "government official blabla"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway. if anyone's following the lulzdrama : ethereum people realise their "fix" ie softfork will in fact be defeated, want hard fork nao.
mircea_popescu: "all of humanity is counting on us to deliver" (~nobody on reddit)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original fuckups, ie, slock.it, is a "company" of the web sort that runs some shitty proprietary irc. so there's that. then there's reddit, twitter, livejournal, facebook
mircea_popescu: well, what they understood of it at any rate. i take no responsibility for the shitheads.
phf: oh look russia is doing nanotechnology^Wblockchain
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 15:59 mircea_popescu: seems altogether just a "ms office shanonizer" job, they got stuff from the internets and copy-pasted it into a "government official blabla"
mircea_popescu: mit, whatever. so they go around, copy/paste code from expert sex change, and that's it.
phf: hmm i wonder what's english equivalent for распил. i think the word is as apropos, but just doesn't exist
phf: multitran gives some definitions, that are not too bad, but different for different contexts
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo btw what was the intended reference for tyrone ?
mircea_popescu: re raspil, is this a sort of ro "fumat" as in "s-a baut tot, s-a fumat tot"
mircea_popescu: "Additionally, planners had to aggregate many types of goods and inputs into a single material balance because it was impossible to create an individual balance for each of the approximately 24 million items produced and consumed in the USSR." << ftr, this is actually actively pursued by yellen & co.
mircea_popescu: because shannonizer meanwhile CAN make excel templates for 24mn items. in java!
mircea_popescu: (brought to you by the people who believe closing factories and making "transfer payments" to "workers" is a superior pareto alternative to soviet planned economy)
mircea_popescu: stupid doesn't just go away. it simply dresses in the sky of the day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you gonna photocopy the sa, for when phf has the tits svg'er ready ?
mircea_popescu: if my collection of kvant taught me anything, it's definitely the best of all investments - paperwork of the old library.
mircea_popescu: hey, this just means they were successful startup amirite ?
mircea_popescu: lmao, as part of the democrats' "bitcoin is terrorist money" initiative ?
mircea_popescu: "we'll support mit's hole-ridden ''blockchain'' instead!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, asciilifeform, there you go : that's how they paid ~200mn to terrorists past two weeks.
mircea_popescu: hopefully the woman gets elected, we turn that into a cool trillion.
deedbot: drizztdourden voiced for 30 minutes.
drizztdourden: hello everyone, my fellow wyrdmantis brought me here to try eulora
trinque: drizztdourden: you'll have to ask mircea_popescu for an account
gribble: Current Blocks: 418389 | Current Difficulty: 2.0945315859538098E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 419327 | Next Difficulty In: 938 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 0 hours, 18 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: $v 5103B823052B00BC3F996775D13A928B72402A581CBCC639EFDA312E3E74A2E0
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform top tweet, "your chains can only be broken by our patented AA method, join the cult now!"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 12:38 a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 10:30 mircea_popescu: speaking of that, asciilifeform any idea how it's possible that Submissions: 3305302 Known Moduli: 2708380 Moduli Waiting for Test: 3677 ? shouldn't these add up ?
mircea_popescu: the point being that if there's less than 1 moduli known added for each ssh submission processed, we got a problem there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The censored bits really detract from my motivation to do anything with it, but if someone else has the inclinations to do it...
mircea_popescu: and today in signs of patriarchy : me and girl dress to go out. i have 172 buttons. she has one.
shinohai: ^ Satan in BingoBoingo 's personal hell.
BingoBoingo: Nah, Satan's supposed to be your buddy, not a hambeast
BingoBoingo: Would not sign a contract with, disqualified from being the devil.
mats: at least she can stand upright
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Are you the one managing the phuctor effort?
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: If you are interested in a copy of the SKS keyset as of.. I want to say mid-2012 or so (the same one that was used as evidence that Craig Wright backdated his keys) I can stuff it into an archive for you.
midnightmagic: Okie doke. I originally downloaded a copy of it because I was having a discussion with some peeps about fingerprinting keys and preferences and bitsizes to see how unique various peoples' choices were, and then just never went anywhere with it.
midnightmagic: Ah, okay, so the first one is dated Feb 19 2012. And I have another one here from Dec 6 2015. I'll zip up the 2012 one and post a URL and signature.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 15:19 mircea_popescu: three days later alchie calls doc office in a passion. "doc, wtf do i do, i can't lift alcohol above my mouth."
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:57 mircea_popescu: Framedragger what i'm more and more discovering is that the legends about the internet and the facts about the network (not just the internet, network in general) are very much at odds. consider a few examples : L1 : "many eyes means better code" ; R1 : "many eyes means bikeshed effect" | L2 : "Bitcoin has many nodes" ; R2 "yeah, like less than 50." | L3 : "there's many weak consumer grade boxes out there" ;
Framedragger: those opinions and past rumours on the nets are sort of detrimental if anything to the experimental effort which is sorely needed in all areas here
Framedragger: (not me, apparently; need to work against that internalized bias some more)
trinque: was just about to say, cartography > traveler's legends
☟︎ Framedragger: problem when world is big and you need to trust other cartographers, i guess
Framedragger: that's a start for sure. sometimes cartographers from far away lands not connected to your network of trust, i guess. but then perhaps no need to trust much about far away lands anyway
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 15:02 mircea_popescu: after the shocking revelations earlier this year, that really many things which seemed actually hosted properly (ie, own box etc) and on this basis assumed independent were really THE SAME ONE ITEM, i think even the 50 figure is generous.
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a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 18:23 asciilifeform: lel 172?! mircea_popescu dressed as what, 17th c. hussar ?
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu apparently i can't log in eulora
mircea_popescu: lol dude... check out all the obscure venues where people discuss me knowingly.
drizztdourden: mircea_popescu now he's online but i get always incorrect username or password
shinohai: There's just not enough asylums in the US anymore fr these people.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 19:39 trinque: was just about to say, cartography > traveler's legends
shinohai: Ethereum: -11.73 % The DAO: -17.88 %
mircea_popescu: wasn't it fixed ? i thought THEY WERE COMING AFTER ME!!11
mircea_popescu: gotta love it when the "solution" to the "solution" consists of PLEASE DONT RUN OUR CODE
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 21:22 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492429 << the link is quite germane. even as late as 1800 romanian popular geography included "muscali cu coada", literally, moscow people had tails, like a cat.
mircea_popescu: "we are the premier engineer and science institution IN THE WORLD!"
mircea_popescu: and to round the lolz farm, " The code was open-sourced on March 3rd, so experts had almost two months to find vulnerabilities before it was deployed. It was also audited (at an alleged cost of $250k) by the same firm that audited geth before the frontier launch." (you remember, by the "dejavu" derps, that proud scion of bitcoin security of bitcoinica days.
https://archive.is/yZ0ke )
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and, of course, let's not forget historical posturing
https://archive.is/iKC07 by the TRULY professional slock.it "all staer" team : simon jentzsch (founder & "ceo"), christoph jentzch (founder's relative & "CTO"), stephan tual (staph patient & coockoo), lefteris karapetsas, griff green, colm herbert, and the one, the only, dr! christian reitwiessner, the creator of stolidity!
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492457 << so basically, as part of its ongoing cold war against insufficiently-pliable torvalds, the usg through its usg.twitter agency... repurposed what it claims to be "linus' account", ie, a voodoo doll they made for him. and this somehow is supposed to reflect on the man ? why, because we're all from the great nation of africa and ergo fucktarded in the brain ?
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