a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:29 asciilifeform: swiftgeek: out of curiosity, what's your interest in this particular box ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:31 swiftgeek: using e-waste for research pretty much lowers amount of it
mircea_popescu: waste is the most important signal of social hierarchy. that's what it's fucking for.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:33 |\n: any intel on supply chain of this stone? had to ask
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:33 |\n: any other devices with the extra similar one (even with brushed label)?
BingoBoingo: Seriously 1. People who make lots of trash 2. people who make some trash 3. People who collect trash with donkey carts 4. People who collect trash with trash bags 5. People who sleep in trash
BingoBoingo: The structures that become part of your reality in the bananastan too cold for growing bananas
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:37 asciilifeform: personally, i'd consider a box with no trackpad function, to be usable
BingoBoingo: The trash mining sector of the economy here is probably the third largest behind Tourism and Agriculture depending on the order those two sort themselves into.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:52 asciilifeform: thus far i know how to cut power to it, and this suffices for my purpose
mircea_popescu: wait, wait. did you get the power or didn't you ? what are we talking about here ?
mircea_popescu: but your objection to "just hammer the damned thing off the board" was "won't be able to power up, controls the 3v line". and now you found bypass ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 23:36 danielpbarron: i once triggered a guy to the point of thinking he might have his first fist fight, over anti-ssl, till his friend dragged him away
Mocky: i was into tor, dark markets. now cured
danielpbarron: i didn't have time to explain. he triggered quickly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, just because disappeared does not in fact mean relapsed.
Mocky: was cured first time i saw 'yeah this dns exploit reveals everything' immediately saw whole things as crock of shit
danielpbarron: it's a common reaction from those who know they aren't in the know to those who think they are, that my perscsription is bunk
mircea_popescu: Mocky, could we then say there was nothing there to cure in the first place ?
Mocky: i suppose idiocy not baked into hindbrain
mircea_popescu: this is the problem. education only ever succeds on some and never on others, in which case what sort of technology is it, really.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't be impressed with gravel mill that only milled some gravels.
Mocky: unless sorting is part of 'education succeeds'
mircea_popescu: Mocky, but classification and engineering are distinct vocations.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-19 21:55 ascii_butugychag: the whole point of engineering is to cut apart the happenstance-linked crud from what you actually want.
mircea_popescu: and all medicine with washing. washing, still not medicine.
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> i suppose idiocy not baked into hindbrain << What you described happening to you was light coming on in a dark place letting you see. It is an absence phenonmenon. Nothing inherently bad.
BingoBoingo: The redditards have a pathology. A presence of something anti-useful
mircea_popescu: dog that doesn't learn speech doesn't so much have a pathology as a dogology.
BingoBoingo: Plenty of dogs understand speech even if they suck at generating it
BingoBoingo: Dogology is having a different set of dog lights
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 23:54 danielpbarron: they have some app exibitors can use to promote where they'll be and what they are serving (i reserved a vendor campsite specifically for the purpose of provoking conversation about the Bible) -- i also mention in my "profile" that i'm a lord in the most serene republic of Bitcoin, which mysteriously gets removed. I add it again, removed again. They apparently don't mind a religious "cult" but not
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, unless you're looking for confused teeny cunt, you never miss much by missing the congregations of confused teeny cunt.
mircea_popescu: ok, i'm skipping the rest of this swiftgeek barf, it's indigestible.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform, unless you're looking for confused teeny cunt, you never miss much by missing the congregations of confused teeny cunt. << And for that alf needs to do Uruguay delivery runs during the summer.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 21:40 asciilifeform: in one ear and out the other, apparently .
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823026 << this sort of statement would be so much more useful/important/noteworthy/actually existent if it came in the form of "i'm the guy from $X, long term so and so". where $X doesn't have to be a "our words are backed by nuclear weapons" state. can even be a blog. a dogshed. SOMETHING. but something specifically and identifiably existent.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 20:42 hl`: I'm a longtime owner-control advocate.
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, you certainly missed 0. it was only fun for me for as long as there were easy drugs and poker, and now going forward, because they will let me openly preach along side Darwin Fish
mircea_popescu: because otherwise, really, the thing you "identify as" at parties bears no meaning and no interest, for us as for the chicks that don't come with you to your records collection.
danielpbarron: i don't think they could have turned me down even if my aim was to represent the republic tho. 700 USD or whatever for a vendor spot.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, if you represent the republic, do me a favour and hire a half dozen strippers to be mostly naked, will you.
mircea_popescu: none of this "bitcoin embassy" buncha pasty ass bois bitpay's been doing
danielpbarron: they probably have a free spot left -- the rest of you are welcome to try
danielpbarron: i cannot personally be responsible for such a thing
mircea_popescu: i didn't sday hookers, did i ? don't tell me nudity is ungodly ?!
mircea_popescu: if god wanted people dressed he'd have made them that way.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if god wanted people dressed he'd have made them that way. << You forget the Mayogendered. Dressed in yeast
danielpbarron: there are prohibitions against nudity, but they pertain to family relations
Mocky: hire strippers and dress them in fig leaves
danielpbarron: nontheless, it would offend my brothers and sisters to do such a thing
Mocky: have em share an apple
danielpbarron: (the fruit of the knowledge of good an evil was never descsribed as being an apple)
Mocky: danielpbarron, i've spoken those words so many times, lol
Mocky: now i just make apple jokes
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, it's mostly a medieval conceit. had to display it as something. you ever saw the dog-like elephant i linked once ?
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> nontheless, it would offend my brothers and sisters to do such a thing << Come to Uruguay. Live here six months. Hire girls you would have though good looking when you arrived, but because of their deep cultural failings you now view as well dressed more fuckable goats.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 21:01 hl`: not really trustworthy if they have non-free firmware on them, but theoretically they have a use case
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 16:03 asciilifeform: pretty lulzy, motherfucking 16TH CENTURY b00k, is NOWHERE on the net.
danielpbarron: i've seen and met plenty of good looking but am no stranger to later learning they are no good, but in my case because of lack of belief
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: This isn't lack of belief in their heads so much as lack of life
BingoBoingo: I suspect the level of human dysfunction we are encountering is different. Thankfully my problem is alleviated by saner girls importing themselves here from Northern South America because "land of opportunity"
BingoBoingo: And if that well ever went dry here, going full Pashtun is always an option
BingoBoingo: Sleep in the hills with blanket, kalash, and a local goat-girl
Mocky: BingoBoingo, what's full pashtun?
trinque:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823317 << the tiny furry bastard. has a whole greeting protocol, consistent vocalizations, says his name by way of butthole display. worlds beyond what these derps consider communication when they arrive.
☝︎ BingoBoingo: Mocky: The simple life of freedom visible in certain tribes.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, pashtun is this word for tribesmen inhabiting the place empires go to die (afghanistan)
BingoBoingo: It however is impossible to go "full Charrúa" because they Uruguayos of all people genocided them under General Fructuoso Rivera before mass immigration of Italian trashpeople ruined Cisplatine culture
a111: Logged on 2016-12-29 18:40 asciilifeform: not everybody wants to be involved with mega-empires, on the giving or on the receiving end. in that light, the pashtun mountains are every bit a 'high-tech' deterrent as a SAM battery.
mircea_popescu: holy shit this mgiht be the most infuriating log since we're logging.
mircea_popescu now understands what alf feels when coming to machine after n hours of mp entertaining idiots.
Mocky: worse that when it was raining trucker tits??
trinque: tell you what, those trucker tits tightened my txn-hucking loop into the minutes scale. can't even complain.
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> worse that when it was raining trucker tits?? << That wasn't so bad. I got to listen to alf complain about that with my ears in real time.
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a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 22:06 BingoBoingo: that, or to repeat the "common" process they are sure gets done all the time.
Mocky: "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it. It's too risky. Ya get a sense of it and then you look away."
mircea_popescu: if you go hang out on highschool campus, a very infuriating process of cockteasing may well be the norm.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, you should have seen what mah escort was wearing today.
Mocky: speaking of drool, i saw a moron at the gym today balancing a water bottle on his head while chatting up a chic. almost got a pic
mircea_popescu: saw an old woman balancing a sack on her head while looking in a shop window. ~split the diff ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 22:32 asciilifeform: it'd be one thing if, say, google dev showed up and 'yes i'ma pgp to mircea_popescu the magic key', or even 'here's the schem'. but nooo, instead they come to 'explain' to us how 'tpm can be used to benefit you' .
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 22:36 asciilifeform: they're exactly like eichmann, perfect little marvels of industrious compartmental schizoid
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't expect pulling up all the pins one at a time will brick the machine, do you ?
mircea_popescu: maybe a low power xray shot would actually be worth it, see if there's any lone balls.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 22:58 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i still find it lulzy how google apparently banked on nobody outside of their heathen pit getting hold of the fucking debug hose.
mircea_popescu: there's enough material here to make 15 usg."tech" "task forces".
mircea_popescu: most of the extant ones consist of a subunitary mancount.
mircea_popescu: tbh i find this entire "can't turn off" bs as the originating quanta of offense.
mircea_popescu: no ownership interest in any machine that has always-on components can be said to ever transfer, or in any other way vest in anyone besides the manufacturer.
mircea_popescu: my slaves are my slaves because i can kill them whenever i feel like ; and my computers my computers because i can turn them off.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> this log is painful to fucking read. << indeed
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ok, i'm skipping the rest of this swiftgeek barf, it's indigestible. << i sloged through it :D
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> if god wanted people dressed he'd have made them that way. << You forget the Mayogendered. Dressed in yeast << lol
mod6: that was supposed to be 2 lines, my bad
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> holy shit this mgiht be the most infuriating log since we're logging. << it's up there
mod6: and i finally digested this turdbag of a log
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anything good ? << not really, mildly entertaining watching alf NOT lose his shit talking to guy for who knows how long.
Mocky: ahahaha shoemoney and his mfa check for $130k made out to 'nextpimp', man what a decade
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a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
mircea_popescu: who could have predicted getting a large number of morons that can't figure out ip addressing isn't worth anyone's time ?!?!!?
mircea_popescu: IF NORMAL PEOPLE DIDN'T READ LOPER YOU WOULD NOT BE ACCOMPLISHING YOUR GOAL!!11
mircea_popescu: nah, the problem is that it consists of amstan orcs by mass. they're so enamoured with what the mud-toed grandmother back in rural orcistan thinks about "grandson works at google", they'll defect after the anal rape, maybe.
mircea_popescu: you realise there's still idiots in rural kuban / albania / we keeping in ancient closets receipts from the local MMMs ?
mircea_popescu: same exact fucking thing, we'll have long buried alphabet and they'll still have hidden under dirty mattresses "certificates of achievement"
mircea_popescu: heck, idiots had medals from the tsar long after 1920.
mircea_popescu: last thing normie muppet will do, no matter what, is admit he was a normie muppet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, really ? because last i heard, from tu quoque no less, he... wasn't making payroll.
mircea_popescu: mr "oh i don't wanna work for google to pay 5x in rent what their salary is". or we dun remember that now ?
mircea_popescu: the notion that corpses put disinfo on forums because google pays them to is not unlike the notion idiot chinese teenager spams because the sinospam conspiraci pays him to.
mircea_popescu: they don't need to be paid, that's what an idiot is. who pays the wind to pull down your barn ?
mircea_popescu: "what is mgm, with a patch on the eye on the corner begging for nickles ? they repackage free shit idiots gave them in the hopes of '''making name for selves''' and pretend like they;re in business"
mircea_popescu: that's 100% what the shitstack is ; and i bet you amstan for instance is in shock over there in his silent dounce corner, "omfg, these people are impressed ~negatively~ with my political committments ?!?!?! they despisew me ?!!??! how could this be omfg"
mircea_popescu: and yes, amoeba is staunchly republican. no pantsuit amoeba available.
mircea_popescu: perversity only starts from a certain brainbox cubage onwards.
mircea_popescu: seems more often "orc, who could have been lord, instead sells cigs out of a suitcase".
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me google much hires your type, unless they're mamies.
mircea_popescu: i'm just going by the stereotype. he dun look like jackie brown, he's not enjoying a +ev situation with usg.whatever.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 02:48 hanbot: ^ phf please to update, apologies for the hassle.
mircea_popescu: phf, looked to me like a regrind (patrch got absorbed)
phf: oh that was the idea, kk
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, btw, do you want to see what to my eyes became epitomical "get this to compile with gcc 8.1" code ?
☟︎ phf: (to clarify for logs, mp-wp patchset now, correctly, has reground mp-wp_genesis only)
phf: it's good. i went up to new paltz (upstate new york) for rock climbing and to see an old friend.
☟︎ phf: they do have a lot of beautiful land
mircea_popescu: paltz, for the curious, is idish for the german palatinate.
phf: my friend, whose father is a professor of divinity, was eager to inform me that the village was founded by huguenots
phf: of course these days it's just a generic american smalltown
phf: it's a beautiful area, an hour and a half train ride from manhattan along hudson, into the mountains, views of catskills
mircea_popescu: this may even be true. the exact meaning of "huguenot" in the period, much like "protestant" etc, is a lot more diverse than contemporaries (like to) think.
mircea_popescu: but the notion of french huguenots speaking plattdeustch...
mircea_popescu: there's this joke in romania that "if you hear a hungarian speaking foreing languages you're looking at a jew".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (plattdeutsch is how you get from pfalz to paltz ; very similar to how idish works... or rather worked, it's pretty much dead.)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 14:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, btw, do you want to see what to my eyes became epitomical "get this to compile with gcc 8.1" code ?
phf: mircea_popescu: that as always makes a lot of sense. i knew that the original was an area in germany, but i didn't give much further thought to the obvious modification
mircea_popescu: phf, linguistics and phonetics is a major solvent for post-medieval mysteries. in some cases even earlier. a lot hinges on what kind of attic or aeolian or whatever other obscure way to say o and u someone employed.
mircea_popescu: also, pfalz is not per se an area in germany ; it's a bunch of areas. originally [holders of] palatine lands elected the emperor, so it's really akin to saying portland-tmsr and seattle-tmsr. tmsr isn't a plage, it's a designation.
mircea_popescu: in any case it's very much "this is what foss is", a token and an icon.
mircea_popescu: the modern equivalent of those medievally fixed timepieces, compensated, recompensated and re-recompensated until the count of moving parts exceeded the "engineer's" capacity to count.
mircea_popescu: these idiots (project something or the other, i forget) spent ten years to reach this pinnacle ; and the whole time wondering why their ~server~ can't hold more than five or so people connected.
mircea_popescu: THEN they "moved on to unity". because "it's slicker visually".
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mircea_popescu: alright. see the topic / read the logs / register a rsa key etc.
mircea_popescu: and in other "only in this country" lulz, i see a dark halfinch long form squrrying under the bottle washer behind the kitchen skin tap. so i'm all, you know if you've ever lived in new york, or buenos aires, or generally a large town, "fuck you, you little bitch" kill! kill! kill! mode.
mircea_popescu: turns out to have been... A FUCKING MOTH. nectar eating night guy.
mircea_popescu: goes right with the "about the size of a... scorpion, with a dangly apendage behind, looking like a ... scorpion tail" girl saw yest... FLYING.
mircea_popescu: oh, also, lest i forget : see alf ? you just don't do the upping correctly, is all.
mircea_popescu: eh, it's not clear it's worth soldering anything to begin with
mircea_popescu: i suppose you just buy a live-in slavegirl to do the job eventually.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 14:45 phf: it's good. i went up to new paltz (upstate new york) for rock climbing and to see an old friend.
mircea_popescu: i mean, it's the same thing, but at least mine got tits.
mircea_popescu: i haven't identified a use for laptop yet besides "dumbphone replacement for aspiring slavegirls".
mircea_popescu: regulators aren't expensive. and nothing wrong with 5v from battery either.
mircea_popescu: but the last thing anyone fucking wants is an even smaller laptop.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that does NOT need to be part of the computer.
mircea_popescu: have a fucking mechanical gauge, steampunk all the way
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i didn;t mean VOLTMETER. i meant, separate doohickey.
mircea_popescu: heck, some actuallty even have gauge on themselves. i've seen this. it's not expensive or hard to make.
mircea_popescu could almost go for a 400 x 450 mm laptop chassis, provided it includes a proper sized kbd.
mircea_popescu: Display size: 17.6" × 13.2" = 232.32in² (44.7cm × 33.53cm = 1498.84cm²) at 79.55 PPI, 0.3193mm dot pitch, 6327 PPI² << get a sxga+ in there.
mircea_popescu: something like the ipad retina, but in 45/35 rather than bs 15 x 12 cm they got.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there is such a thing as people with cars and pack animals.
mircea_popescu: and moreover, i think it is important to MAKE THIS A DIFFERENTIATION POINT.
mircea_popescu: "grandfather's sword won't work for you until you get a horse like your grandmother."
ave1: yes, it's the same chip as in the notebook, also cost more (and will be even more with the european import tax added)
ave1: as an aside, I've been readin the google code for the cr50 but I also did not find any obvious holes so far
ave1: the libre computer board is in the pizarro rk? it seems to be 80$ for 4G. This is the same price, for the rockpro64.
ave1: aha, yes I did not try to order the 4g version (also the 2g version is twice as expensive on the german amazon)
ave1: asciilifeform, no I did not get the board, it seems to me a standard pcie x4 slot and cards for these can be easily had locally
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cnomad: your blog post brought me here
cnomad: thanks, no qs at the moment
cnomad: I don;t have any _specific_ qs at the moment, but i do some IC and firmware RE. I don't even know what this channel is about before joining
cnomad: is this a technical channel or a political or...?
☟︎ cnomad: you guys have a manifesto or something?
cnomad: currently working on liberating a tl866a programmer, but mostly i do RE and pwning for various security chips
cnomad: I knew about it before, and when I did it was curious noone wrote about it then
cnomad: i don't want to develop reputation, just wanna say hi and observe
diana_coman: cnomad, do you specifically want to *not* develop a reputation here ?
cnomad: im a go-with-the-flow kinda guy. rep will naturally follow
☟︎ diana_coman: cnomad, precisely; just... it needs a recipient to accumulate in; basically how is anyone to say it's same *you* next time you join?
cnomad: ok here's a sha512sum for now, i'll regsiter w/ your bot a bit later
cnomad: 7d3ca5d5e5e09bdc3ebf53017a883e2c10710fe5edf8f46838ff5e6b5bf33e6c031554b959badb9ef8a0bca772a6df2c8e677227143ea46d3f36d28b43e26135
cnomad: so if you question my identity i'll give you the non hashed text
cnomad: how much are you offering for liberating a cr50? fyi, it'll be a _hard_ target
cnomad: if the goal is to liberate it for public use, then it's easier to justify paying less than market rate
cnomad: If someone popped this chip, I'd value it at _least_ 200k USD. we're talking about invasive analysis that requires equipment, weeks of non-stop work, and experience
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cnomad: especially since this is a generic security chip with potentially more serious applications
cnomad: but if you re-write the firmware, you own the tpm
cnomad: yeah, using a SEM/FIB is the easy way
cnomad: well it could provide some insight into the target
cnomad: well the most likely non-firmware approach would be finding a way to glitch/fault it
☟︎ cnomad: that would be scalable
cnomad: that being said, these chips are generally hardened against faulting / glitching / DPA attacks
cnomad: from reading around a few months ago, they use a similar IC that's used for smart cards, which implement a lot of hardening measures like dual rail logic, security meshes, and various other hardening measures
cnomad: so this is likely some evolution of that
cnomad: yeah they can be generic. Mass produce them so engineers can use them for TPMs and whatnot
mircea_popescu: "smart" cards are not usually all that hardened in practice.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 18:48 asciilifeform considers idea of proclaiming a 1 btc prize for a working break of cr50 . any l1 folk interested in contributing to the prize chest , and/or overseeing the refereeing ?
cnomad: yeah i know, i was speaking more generally
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:18 cnomad: is this a technical channel or a political or...?
mircea_popescu: the claim to the contrary is a political ploy put forth by the enemies of humanity.
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a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:32 cnomad: im a go-with-the-flow kinda guy. rep will naturally follow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the only problem is, i'm paying bitcoin to fix google's crapolade ? this sounds a lot like the soviet-sponsored "criticism of capitalism"
cnomad: oh this chip will get popped someday, it's certainly possible
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:41 asciilifeform: well yes, for public use. with the caveat that we will not be giving the curative pill to google.
mircea_popescu: if it's software and it's found, well... they'll make a firmware upgrade yes.
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if "the public" has the werewithal to even liberate 500 of them, should a pill be available now.
mircea_popescu: yes, but you're making less than alphabet is from this deal.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to work things so we make more than they do.
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a single noteworthy one in the whole bunch, yes ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, think : paying for tits resulted, before your very eyes, in ever increasing levels of exam taking. yes ? you noticed this, yourself, i said nothing, you complained about it.
mircea_popescu: now you want to pay for cr-whatever. why ? do you expect it'll go any differently ? why ? and so on.
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't cost me anything" is how filthy person ends up with bug infestation, "oh, the jam they eat cost me nothing".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, folks who can think are cordially invited to extract their head out of their ass, stop cohabiting with monkeys, join the republic.
mircea_popescu: if they can't do this, measured as "don't do this", a) the argument they were intelligent is tenuous and b) paying them is exacrtly thr wrong thing to do.
mircea_popescu: ie, a) if indeed this guy exists that'd give tyou whatever for the whatever prize, and b) i know for certain that he wouldn;'t have otherwise, somehow then c) i'll send a gal over to tie him to a post, slice an inch of his abdomen, and slowly roll his inrtestine on a cat scratch pad.
mircea_popescu: i'm not convinced of anything, but i'd rather discuss it than not.
mircea_popescu: certainly consists of list of miserable overgrown avortons whose mothers should be really, really ashamed they waited.
cnomad: curious, you guys speak russian?
mircea_popescu: but if their brain dun work enough for them to get thjemselves interested on their own, then what's your btc gonna do ?
mircea_popescu: it's the ~advertising~ that does something. you understand this, do you ?
mircea_popescu: ok. let's go back to the original tournament market, the hollywood studio.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the item where they ship pre-printed cutouts with the silouette of a girl, and a hole for the head, holding a $x mn check, DOES SOMETHING.
mircea_popescu: it does the thing where it's put in front of every soda joint, and before you know it 17 yos are willing to throw their panties at rolling stones and star in cocksucker blues.
mircea_popescu: whereas their mothers were happy to appear in whistler's mother all decked in black.
mircea_popescu: but this is not what you ask. what you ask is, "what does the $x mn do". well ? what does it ?
mircea_popescu: you're not going to reproduce the former by the latter ; just like you're not going to lure my slavegirls away by promising to be "a good sensitive guy with a great sense of humor".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: howsoever indignant my stepping on their faces in the dungeon may make your tingly sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, and if zeptobars weren't fucked in the head, they'd have a !Z service here.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 20:14 zx2c4: i'd be wary of any 'deal' that's different from: 'i'm given money. you're given warm feelings of having helped the internet.'
mircea_popescu: where, of course, "the internet" is really just how he whitewashes satan himself for my benefit\.
mircea_popescu: cuz im supposed to be just as retarded as any other usg-produced neet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i'm just saying, the thing you discuss, with "has costs", works a ~certain~ way. and if you recall how NOPENOPE NOPE!!! kanzure was wrt getting his inept bs in functional shape, you realise that they will NEVER do any work.
mircea_popescu: recall ? "put your pdf reader in a bot" "where are your microscopy shots" etc.
mircea_popescu: where are they ? even fucking today ? a year later, and all the "make mp eat crow" one could conjure up, where is it ?
mircea_popescu: recall the days kakobrekla honestly imagined b-a actually has some sort of future ?
mircea_popescu: they won't work ; and paying them is counter-productive : it encourages them to not work.
mircea_popescu: notion was you working to self-pacify yourself, really.
mircea_popescu: there's no way to cut this : either they do or they don't.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, consider what the previous bitcoins bought, shall we ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 16:39 a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 16:30 mircea_popescu: !!pay zx2c4 1
a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 20:46 mircea_popescu: !!withdraw 1 12taDFRdimNTHx1xoUkUZWj3nrE4js6LM6
mircea_popescu: nothing. there's not going to be any work encouragement through payment, because the inca has expertly stuffed this channel full of nonsense on both ends. "Free money" from one "nothing to buy for it" from the other, the zek has no use and no need and consequently no conception of money at all.
mircea_popescu: nevermind the referee. explain the incentive structure.
mircea_popescu: my bet would be, he's working a shitty job in some shitty company and dreams of the day "things will happen".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile nothing's happening, and time goes by, and trinque in the end had a point, no door's open forever.
mircea_popescu: and you know, like shinohai -- if you prod him he'll do some movements, like electrocuted, disembodied frog legs. and if you don't he'll sit. and then wonder why it didn't work out and why he's being so badly persecuted.
mircea_popescu: recall the time i bought that dork a ranked reddit account ? recall the time anything came of it ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, if "worked" then where are these things it worked for ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, a tool is worth to the tradesman his life.
mircea_popescu: if he's a tradesman. if he's a kid getting in the way of adults, nothing will EVER be worth anything. not ever, no matter what you do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, and ? they ever won a confrontation with us navy ? they ever won without even needing to confront, like the chinese ?
mircea_popescu: sure. but anyways, to circle back : i'll match. but i also expect exactly nothing to come of it.
mircea_popescu: and somehow, all these inept fucktards sit somewhere "online" on the world wide dweeb, and manage to not notice that "hey, there's some people somewhere , can burn 10s of ks of this shitty green crap just out of boredom. when's the last time our "respectable" "employer" ok'd a $100 expense account ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: you know, i did this on trilema what ? a dozen times ? two ?
mircea_popescu: recall how it never took less than a year for the fucktarded public to even catch on ?
mircea_popescu: and this is not anglotardation ; at some point a decade ago i actually offered a full scholarship. NOBODY claimed it.
mircea_popescu: "i don't believe in factuality of anything besides usg" is the cheapest brand of shit to eat.
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, two things remain : republicans and slavegirls.
mircea_popescu: saying "jahveh will clear if sacrifice correct ox" is insanity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nice. like in one hand, and piss in the other...
mircea_popescu: well, you live in dc, send a few girls over to talk to the dweebs.
mircea_popescu: afaik alphabet all lives there, notwisthanding "tech corp" pretense.
mircea_popescu: also, i can say it is extremely unlikely your preliminary "thousands" figure is correct.
☟︎ douchebag: I've been around, just been busy attending to various issues irl
douchebag: I'm doing well now after a few days
douchebag: Never knew that, I thought they were parasites
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:44 cnomad: If someone popped this chip, I'd value it at _least_ 200k USD. we're talking about invasive analysis that requires equipment, weeks of non-stop work, and experience
mircea_popescu: let's not repeat the mistake that sunk america ; we don't even have an america to sink.
mircea_popescu: douchebag, "parasite" isn't a class. but yes, arachnids.
mircea_popescu: cnomad, outsourcing, rather than buying capital goods.
douchebag: A friend of mine is great w/ hardware hacking, reverse engineering, binary exploitation, firmware exploitation, ect.. He has a ton of equipment, if asciilifeform wants I could have him come in here.
BingoBoingo: <douchebag> It ended up being a spider bite << How sure are you about that? Prolly safest to tent the place and fumigate to be sure.
mircea_popescu: apparently we'll end up having to organize a defanging lab.
douchebag: BingoBoingo: Well, that's what the doctor told me
BingoBoingo: douchebag: Spiders and ticks aren't the only things that bite. Fumigate.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:51 cnomad: well the most likely non-firmware approach would be finding a way to glitch/fault it
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 15:46 asciilifeform: one interesting observation, is that the update mechanism lets you flash in arbitrary crapola into 'rw' section ( it simply won't jump to it if it doesn't pass rsa(sha256(payload)) ) . so theoretically could put a nop sled there, ending with jump into the magic half of unlock routine. and then expose the thing to beta/gamma, and perhaps in a few months it will Do The Right Thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, honestly, i still suspect there's a clean way to flash-in via the factory pads. however...
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deedbot: xdeller_ voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: asciilifeform: Are you referring to the motor compressor
douchebag: "i hope hes not referring to the fucking motor compressor"
deedbot: cnomad voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: it's right next to the johnson rod
mircea_popescu: douchebag, cr50 is, by all appearances, an arm cortex fpga
BingoBoingo: Even then more apt metaphor for the operation would be a drain and fill
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 16:03 asciilifeform: but if can put a $5 fpga in its place, it's a 15 min job.
mircea_popescu: could just put a sane kbd driver in there and whatnot. i don;'t even fucking want google's kbd driver, they can shove it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, can you publish a very large pic of the chip (and margins) only ?
mircea_popescu: ideally 5k px or w/e you can swing. very large very clear.
mircea_popescu: make 100 shots if you have to, just learn how to use the damned sony and get a proper fixed shot
mircea_popescu: sure. but here no need for that, we're trying to match the chip.
douchebag: My buddy said "although they are mostly factory locked"
douchebag: you can put them in an "rma open" config which will allow some communications functionality
douchebag: I didn't even know what a cr50 was 10 minutes ago
douchebag: Sry, been jumping between quite a few different things throughout the day
cnomad: floating an idea... do you folks have a batch of cr50s around that you might be willing to ship?
☟︎ douchebag: My friend was also wondering who has access to cr50's
cnomad: and if you send 2-3 to me, I can image it for you
cnomad: yeah, for a whole chromebook
mircea_popescu: cnomad, how about you get a key registered, i send you some bitcoin dust, you order yourself a coupla chromebooks and "imagine it for us".
douchebag: My friend says he's going to research it some more. He said he can have a unit by Friday, he thinks it'll be interesting because it probably hasn't had as much attention given to it due to low market share
diana_coman: funny how this hw guy can't even do as much as the girls with tits managed
douchebag: He's not at his computer at the moment
mircea_popescu: so let him get off the girl and get to his computert later.
cnomad: mircea_popescu: ok. I'm not going to get to it within this month, but i'll ping you back for details to give you a die image
cnomad: it prolly will yield some periphery information about the die, similar families / cells that it uses
deedbot: 7BD5B50222D7457B9710CF728D6436492F4A69AF registered as cnomad.
cnomad: there im now on yer watchlist
mircea_popescu: principally it'll yield an opportunity for you to be reconized or how shall we put it.
cnomad: i don't want money, but thanks
mircea_popescu: cnomad, imagine i shipped you some boards, what difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: !!rate cnomad 1 dood either ran off with my boards or else produced an image of some sort ; we don't know the future yet
deedbot: cnomad voiced for 30 minutes.
cnomad: er, more precisely I'm not going to get to it until sometime next month, so I'd rather accept payment then
cnomad: idk deedbat thinks im not registered
mircea_popescu: cnomad, aite, give it a few mins then, maybe not up to date yet
cnomad: its fine. I'll ping you folks when I'm ready to order some chromebooks and do some imaging
cnomad: motivation for me to finish assembling the fumehood
cnomad: i can't say i haven't considered it
deedbot: asciilifeform rated cnomad 1 << says, he's a reverser.
deedbot: fitzsim voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 20:11 asciilifeform: hey phf !
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine we'll have such a deluge of these the clerical work keeping track is worh the hassle
mircea_popescu: "shows to signs" is not a computable string for the phf-machine.
mircea_popescu: you'll end up having to pay like 5 btc for the work involved in this arbitering lol.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, and if your model is correct, secret waits a month thereby ? what's in a month ?
mircea_popescu: your idea is that "what if i don't have enough time to get to the store after contest is declared" ?
mircea_popescu: imo it's a way better story if it goes "and then google patched with bated breath WITHIN MINUTES"
mircea_popescu: holy shit oxigen line punctured. aite, ima be back in a few, this just became a hazardous environment o.O
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 14:54 asciilifeform: aaalso why are there signs warning of buried ~oxygen~ pipes !
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: can i get the copyright r ?
trinque: asciilifeform: just register a nick that represents the pot, have folks !!pay that nick
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 1 minute ago: <asciilifeform> would it be possible to set up a public address that will auto-add to the pot when sent coin to ?