asciilifeform: Vexual: sd card with single-chip 'crypto coprocessor' (a la the atmel turd discussed a few months ago; possibly even the very same) - with extra holy water and marketing drivel included
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i'm seeing a microsd single-chip turd
asciilifeform: which is why i think that at a certain point the advantage of a 'bitcoin' which can be -understood- will outweigh the danger of failing to enumerate every possible corner case of the original turd when crafting the ada safety-critical bitcoinatron
asciilifeform: who toil in the darkness to dig out the nuggets of choice turd
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> ... the Phillipines interest me as an expatriation point << afaik - worst of all worlds: thoroughly usg-owned, but with all the 'pleasures' of the Turd World
asciilifeform: what if the "derivated mirrored user" was just an ID of a social network like Facebook or Twitter? Before strike me, let me explain my motivation: << what if the 'derivated mirror food' was just a turd from the local public toilet, with spices such as mustard or ketchup? Before strike me, let me explain...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can't speak for others, but i refuse to consider the leaking turd usable in any sense whatsoever.☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: virtually 100% envirowhinerism, 'solutions' for the turd world, or 'accomplishments' of the Officially Sad
asciilifeform: decimation: probably licensing turd for their proprietary kmod
asciilifeform: (it is arguably more of the language in the turd than cpp per se)
asciilifeform: i have the arm turd from the failed test (see earlier listserv post) running on 'arch'
asciilifeform: why does one u.s. idiot get a 50K 'platinum' while another a 0.5K 'turd' ?
asciilifeform: because it is uncommon for the enemy to -invent- a turd ab initio
asciilifeform: in many cases (quite arguably dns included) the turd was an ad-hoc hack from the days of arpa but was cemented in place because guess-why.
asciilifeform: i'd rather not put a multigig turd on my puny hostatron
asciilifeform: which is why that human turd jon callas kept going on and on about how 'real security patches, even against user's will, because updates are the most important thing in security'
asciilifeform: it is nothing new to the veteran turd-shoveler.
asciilifeform wonders where everybody went... reading the sr mega-turd? hacking on pogotron? beating off rabid weasels ?
asciilifeform: it is rather like pointing to a grain of sand in a turd, and advocating shit as a construction material because 'that grain is solid'
asciilifeform: rather than a mega-turd each, if diffing from a virginal buildroot
asciilifeform: i dropped the link to that turd here. can go and see for yourself
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i need something beyond "turd" now << wai wat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: castles and drawings by picasso are not fungible << i'd argue that picassos are more or less 'analogue bitcoin' for the ultra-bezzlerich. hence my interest in the linked turd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do the links contained in the turd point to the genuine site ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but as it happens - it's another mega-c-turd
asciilifeform: one could literally pierce a tank with a compressed turd
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu appears to get exactly the same spam as my spam-magnet, turd for turd
asciilifeform: not that backport should be used as is! but why piss away time on a turd ?
asciilifeform: rather than bug-for-bug equivalence to the turd
asciilifeform: fully algorithmic statement of bitcoin cannot have 'and a turd goes here'
asciilifeform: target market is presumably wealthy usian tourists to the turd world
asciilifeform: sorta like the argument that if there is already the usg-mandated maximum of xxx ppm of turd in your dinner, might as well go full-blown coprophagiac
asciilifeform: if it doesn't - that is to say, doesn't match fucking 1980s state of the art - it's a turd.
asciilifeform: mod6: thanks for posting a tarball << it contains a 12MB turd (mostly nulls) that can be booted to show that netbsd boots on pogo and diddles the network. that's all
asciilifeform: it'll be in every ring0 turd on the planet before the year's out, possibly.
asciilifeform: 2) tearing out 'boost' while keeping the project in cpp will turn it into an unreadable morass of crud that makes the existing turd look like the finest sausage☟︎
asciilifeform: but why force user to use turd service ?
asciilifeform: re: the question of ripping out 'boost': not happening short of a total rewrite. it's used for virtually all iteration constructs, heterogeneous data structures, and 100 other things in the turd.
asciilifeform: and, skipping straight to the end of the turd,
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: linux 2.6.x kernel is a mega-turd. and while there remains a single line therein which does not execute during the normal operation of bitcoind-on-pogo, i will maintain that this is true.
asciilifeform: and while i could, with some effort, shoehorn bitcoind into one of the still-produced alternatives for 'pogo' - all of which have no more than 32M of ram - it presumes something other than the mega-turd that linux kernel is.
asciilifeform: automated rewrite is equivalent to original turd
asciilifeform: now the next phase of moon-chair-stacking, that nix may or may not have yet entered, is to decide that the turd they have created and are doomed to dine on is in fact a sausage, and to lash out angrily at folks pointing out the actual facts
asciilifeform: you may end up pulling in much of the openssl turd in the process
asciilifeform: a deterministic builder of statically linked 0.5.3.xxxxx. for arbitrary cross-compiler. and ran. and turd runs on pogo.
asciilifeform: every bubble's going to bring more into the fold << trying to make argument that they weren't 'in', but more like the clingers-on one sees hanging from trams and trolleybuses in the turd works
asciilifeform: exhortation, from now on, abbreviated for convenience, 'RTFT' (read the fucking turd.)
asciilifeform: decimation: iirc arch linux is a systemd-ized turd.
asciilifeform: turd is not a substitute for sausage, despite the topological similarities.☟︎
asciilifeform: in BingoBoingo's words, the arse shapes the turd.
asciilifeform has not checked the proof, just saw this turd
asciilifeform: 'go' is a turd that i will not have on my systems.
asciilifeform: ergo llvm is a piece of shit, though it works and is internally consistent (presumably) - by the same logic, i would argue, as 'gavincoin' is a spurious turd
asciilifeform reminds readers who may come across this device not to use vendor's turd - a fairly standard linux but with a closed kernel module, apparently
asciilifeform: i may have linked to the current turd instead of 0.5.3
asciilifeform: PeterL: the 'it's still a turd, not sausage, even with relish' principle applies even here.
asciilifeform: punkman: [fpga thread] would MIPS be easier than x86? or does the problem lie in connecting the thing to outside world (fast RAM, peripherals, etc) << problem is that you can't make so much as a barrel shifter on any extant fpga without using a closed turd from the vendor - actually, two turds: one in the logic library part itself, other - the synthesis toolchain
asciilifeform: incidentally, i bring up 'arm' to remind folks that we are quickly approaching (or perhaps past) the point of being stuck with a turd every bit as odious as x86
asciilifeform: while being a heavily patent-encumbered, baroquely-architectured turd.
asciilifeform: 'what exactly is the point' << the point is that it isn't an 'arm.' and isn't a closed turd.
asciilifeform: cazalla: or is this one turd somehow different
asciilifeform: decimation: there is a good reason to doubt that a sufficiently gnarly turd can ever be considered 'open'
asciilifeform: can't resist pointing out that 'mostly open' machine is not unlike mostly-turd-free dinner
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so far you have failed to make a case why your turd is a sausage and we should in fact be eating with relish.
asciilifeform: verizon's turd << what i can't fathom is who would willingly pay for this. it is quite like offering a door lock that is 's3cu43!!!11!' except for rapist, for whom it opens automagically and without fuss
asciilifeform: 'The key logger the attackers used also has Korean characters inside and appears to have ties to a coder in South Korea.' << lol, let's believe every byte of ascii text in the turd, aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, other users of 'opera' - which one do you use? the 1990s close-source turd? or the 'new, impr0v3d' idiocy that uses 'webkit' (chrome) rendering engine ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: atreus keyboard << from what i can see here - a turd.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'fine-grained' chumpnet rental is rare, because anyone with half a brain, when allowed to install $turd on a chump's box, can make it semi-permanent
