ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: perhaps give the good readers a place at which to start?
douchebag: ben_vulpes: Alright, I pretty much give up at pwning deedbot
douchebag: The only thing I managed to find w/ it is getting permavoiced
douchebag: Oh wait, wrong person I meant to tell trinque
trinque: hm interesting, how permavoiced?
douchebag: so that when the 30 minute timer is up it downs a non existent nick
trinque: hm yeah, I could chase all that, but then some human operator will see it happen and take care of it.
trinque: as things stand, the thing's quite stateless, which is nice.
douchebag: Now, I'm not going to completely abadon the web app related stuff - mainly because that's my primary source of income at the moment. However, I am open to trying new things to improve myself.
trinque: great. I'd like you to review the dependencies of trb (which were frozen at particular versions) for known public exploits, and to publish a report of this on your own mpwp blog.
☟︎ douchebag: trinque: One thing I was wondering though in regards to deedbot, the RSS feed which library are you using for XML parsing?
douchebag: I've been having a lot of fun with XML parsers lately, last night I reported a vulnerability to a mail provider. They didn't allow use of SYSTEM or DTD's however since Entities were being processed I could have knocked the whole service offline using a billion laughs attack
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
☟︎ douchebag: sure, can you devoice me and then revoice me
deedbot: douchebag voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: and the idea is that in half an hour it devoices douchebagg and then ?
mircea_popescu: funny shit, took what, 2 years before anyone figured it out ?
mircea_popescu: trinque does he need rep in order for me to be able to pay him or is deedbot mothballed because of the failed down or am i butterfingering the format again or wut.
phf: well, deedbot is talking in private and the command is correct, so douchebag probably needs rep for this to work.
mircea_popescu: douchebag get someone to rate you an' remind me to send you teh cent.
mircea_popescu: phf don't you wish this shit existed when we were 15 ?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Could you just send it to an address I provide?
douchebag: Is there anything else I could do in exchange for BTC?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:13 trinque: great. I'd like you to review the dependencies of trb (which were frozen at particular versions) for known public exploits, and to publish a report of this on your own mpwp blog.
douchebag: building trb right now, I'm on the very last step
mircea_popescu: once we get this design document together there'll also be the task to build a client for eulora, and in general, stuff pops up all the time.
phf: i was frankly hoping this bug would be discovered not as part of security audit, but somebody actually attempted to circumvent voice model for personal reasons. a worthy troll sort of deal..
mircea_popescu: you could be flying to uruguay if these curmudgeons trusted you enough to touch their priceless gear and so on.
douchebag: Alright, I don't know if I'd be any help with eulora - I'm not a gamer and I've never done any game development
mircea_popescu: douchebag this'd be mostly systems engineering ; but anyway, give it some time.
douchebag: But yeah, me and the woman are going to be travelling Europe in two months so I'm willing to do whatever extra work I can to earn some cash for our trip
douchebag: Haha, yes. She would never do that though
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 01:50 mircea_popescu: mmm da fuck is this then
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 01:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
mircea_popescu: speech is blocking, that's the fucking problem, i can't write while you're talking.
mircea_popescu: kinda why anyone that's any good at anything to do with the written word will WRITE rather than speak ; and why oral culture is such an africanism, and so on.
trinque: alrighty, wallet is online. mains was not just down, but cycling on and off for a bit. woman and I went a-pulling plugs.
mircea_popescu: trinque i will swear to you, getting a regulator + generator is utterly worth it if your property is worth > 100k. they're not expensive, and the list of emergencies / situations in which they are useful is lengthy.
mircea_popescu: one of teh few home improvements that actually improve resale value.
trinque: probably will purchase when I head for the woods; for now living in a downtown beehive
mircea_popescu: (of course -- those should have their own, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, orcistan still has problem with bridges staying up, what sane condo development)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i've been invited to gringo retiree grand party with asado on balcony. dork actually had stuffed a grill thing in there.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Suppose I find some females who would be willing to write the code on her tits
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand. zek confronting his existence without distraction for an hour => shooting rampage.
douchebag: How do you want me to go about this?
mircea_popescu: douchebag click the links in the article, plenty of irc examples ; but may i suggest if you do find them you take THEM to europe instead ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform rampaging zek costs millions in insurance claims. worth it.
douchebag: I could definitely find women to do it, but I guess what I'm asking is could I just send the photo here? Do you want them to come in here and chat, what's the deal?
a111: Logged on 2014-10-24 17:12 mircea_popescu: write 0bc8870d, take a pic, post link.
mircea_popescu: there's a dozen example. chick shows up, gets her link, it's a process.
douchebag: Alright, that's what I thought I just wanted to make sure
mircea_popescu: inb4 he's gonna try and game it and end up actually whacked.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Will I be alerted when the funds are transferred
mircea_popescu: douchebag i think not ; but !!ledger tomorrow or whatever.
trinque: takes till I do it, since it's a manual process
douchebag: trinque: So I decrypted the OTP - Do I have to send a command afterwards?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: You've done a fair amount of travelling I assume, correct?
douchebag: Where are some places you would suggest?
douchebag: Just to visit interesting places with a lot of history
mircea_popescu: if you're looking for pussy, budapest and the czech republic. maybe latvia. if you're looking for skiing, the german alps. if you're looking ... on it goes neh.
douchebag: I'll only be bringing my laptop, my clothes, hygeine supplies, and paperwork
mircea_popescu: so then most of eastern europe works for you, it's cheaper and it's generally got more history than the west. except for carcasonne or something.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, go to belgrade see the kalemegdan. belgrade can keep one occupied for months, it's a nice town.
mircea_popescu: or else, poland is full of castles and ancient sleepy little towns. so is all of rhutenia, really (east germany, west ukraine, etc)
douchebag: Yeah I think we're going to have a great time. I was immediately on board when I found out how cheap flights are over there
mircea_popescu: most of eastern europe can actually be ~walked~, as per ye olde "church steeple within day's ride."
mircea_popescu: and yes, something like ny to washington is <50 euros in yurp.
douchebag: Any advice you'd give to someone who's travelling for the first time? The farthest I have ever travelled was from IL to TN
douchebag: Yeah I'm not too worried - I think it's going to be a lot of fun
mircea_popescu: i expect. well, my other advice is don't take anywhere any girl who's not comfortable naked in public, but i dun wanna mix in others' affairs, so.
douchebag: I'm looking forward to seeing the castles and whatnot, she's visited Poland before and loved it
mircea_popescu: yeah, plenty still standing. definitely worth the time.
phf: i'd stop by karlovy vary for some hot springs, also i'm quite fond of tallinn as far as that whole medieval vibe
douchebag: Yeah I think that's pretty amazing how there still churches and castles standing that are close to a thousand years old
mircea_popescu: actually there's roman fortifications throughout southern europe, 2k years old.
douchebag: I'm sure that's quite the experience to visit these places
mircea_popescu: city i grew up in, had this chunk of roman fortification still standing 3-4 stories high right downtown.
douchebag: Anyone ever visit Austria? She said she had a great time when she visited there
douchebag: Anything in particular you'd reccomend checking out there?
mircea_popescu: vienna lol. seriously, you can spend years just dealing with vienna.
mircea_popescu: also friedrick's follies in bavaria, not very far. and in general... the only lacking element is time.
douchebag: Oh yeah she was in Vienna when she was there, she mentioned that people aren't allowed to live in cities besides vienna without permission or something along those lines
douchebag: Not too sure what the deal is with that
douchebag: Me neither, I tried looking it up but didn't really find anything. I could have misunderstood
douchebag: Any places you've enjoyed outside of Europe?
mircea_popescu: sure. egypt is pretty cool, but not really for the beginner.
douchebag: Yeah I have a friend who was living in southern mexico for awhile, he said he loved it and he was living in a penthouse for dirt cheap
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I know someone who is willing to show tits, but she doesn't want to include face
douchebag: If you're cool with that let me know, otherwise I suppose I'll try talking her into it
mircea_popescu: not cool with it. the whole point is for girls to take this opportunity and fix their heads.
douchebag: Just takes a little persuasion sometimes, haha
deedbot: Entropy_ voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: I'll help her get her gpg keys and stuff setup
la: is this like actually real?
la: !!register -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Comment: User-ID: LALALA <LALALA@fakemail.com> Comment: Created: 3/28/2018 10:44 PM Comment: Type: 2048-bit RSA (secret key available) Comment: Usage: Signing, Encryption, Certifying User-IDs Comment: Fingerprint: 741311C4CD2C31823CD5E41EE677AA7C19F99541 mQENBFq8YSkBCAC8PPWEbi10oYLKZ0x+3kvwZvlzzRyzXArdedKx5jRUgu/VACja Dq5+bGlT7zjISt1eOmAVuraQuGnwlfitigiiE92A4CNclFjw2J0SIM+BXpcFXFbF rev0f0
deedbot: Provide a paste URL to the ascii-armored GPG public key or the full 40 character key fingerprint without spaces or dashes.
deedbot: 741311C4CD2C31823CD5E41EE677AA7C19F99541 registered as la.
la: what code should I write
mircea_popescu: la dja have a link to a profile somewhere or anything ?
la: you mean social media?
la: I've sent nudes on discord I guesss
la: first time this public
la: why are you doing this? kinda curious
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Tell her she doesn't have to worry about her family seeing
douchebag: No her family doesn't she's just worrying
douchebag: Write it on your tits - it will be fine.
la: writing on tits is difficult
la: im trying my best here lol
la: is it cool if its upsidedown
trinque: I dunno, my pantomiming over here suggests its doable.
mircea_popescu: she has a point, girly self-paints are harder than they seem
trinque: I guess the medium squashes all around on them
la: I didn't have a marker
la: so too hard to write but I got it backwards
la: mainly just chat with friends privately
la: yeah I go to school and I work part time
la: !!withdraw 0.02 13MqJfbdNo1YHui1Dq61YFKXAU82t9KCzb
la: !!v 4286EA1E2AE1A06044640406EB3448F62CEC0FB902F7ADFC5C25E7886A7403E6
mircea_popescu: la well, now that you've found this place maybe stick around. who knows what monstrous horror you might find to scare your teachers with.
mircea_popescu: teh republic is looking for more women to put teh tech into all the time anyway.
trinque: la: douchebag: I'm gonna run these withdrawals in the morning, big line of storms coming through.
la: it isn't that bad here
trinque: I don't want the airgap box zapped.
la: how long will it take to go through btw :#
trinque: la: your withdrawal command popped a piece of paper with a qr code on my end.
trinque: I take that and fiddle with an airgapped machine, which produces another qr code, your txn.
la: wow you're such a nerd
trinque: hey I'm not the one studying computing informatits or w/e
la: yeah but I'm not as smart as you :(
trinque: republic's got this brain straightening effect, you'll find.
la: is it cool if I can invite my friend in here?
la: she's down to post tits
la: she'll be here soon :3
trinque: so how do you know douchebag? from lode's thing?
douchebag: No, we're in a political discord server together
deedbot: emily22 voiced for 30 minutes.
emily22: I'm here to show you guys tits
mod6: this is starting off well
trinque: ranks among the best intros eh?
emily22: I haven't done anything like this before >.>
trinque: la: you oughta be able to self-voice by pm'ing !!up to deedbot
deedbot: 5B4DF394BFF6514A39B7E6EF62797679B472DD54 registered as emily22.
la: imma grab a snack omg
trinque: emily22: yup, you registered.
emily22: what code do I need to write?
trinque: gonna have to wait for mircea_popescu for the tits bounty
trinque: douchebag: y'know, once you bring two women by the forum topless I dunno that you get to keep the pantsuit "autism" hat anymore.
trinque: emily22: also from the discord, or?
la: yeah we're discord friends
trinque: you know, we're somewhat political ourselves.
douchebag: It's a right wing discord server w/ mostly conservative people
ben_vulpes: douchebag: well link it or will that get you excommunicated?
douchebag: I don't have permission on the server to grab the server link
la: only the mods can give links they're a bit stuck up
douchebag: They stopped that after discord started banning right wing servers
ben_vulpes: probably also, guys eh? "the shy gender"
emily22: there were a bunch of random people coming in all the time
la: the guys there are all ugly and rude
trinque: douchebag: so why not build your own discord thing, instead of letting cali pantsuits tell you what you can say?
douchebag: Me and some friends were working on a project awhile back
ben_vulpes: emily22: maybe tell 'em about this thing called the wot and voice model, where someone has to vouch for you before you can waste everyone's time
trinque: (he could say, and you use freenode, and I'd agree!)
douchebag: We use a custom ircd to handle the messages and such
trinque: douchebag: v-patch worthy thing?
douchebag: Not yet, it's a web app so I'm not sure if you guys would be into that
ben_vulpes: wow damn girl did you actually snag that 2char nick?
trinque: ben_vulpes: pls to integer
emily22: when is mircea_popescu going to come in? He's the one asking right?
ben_vulpes: !!v 4DFDD6DFAD4AF74B37D02C0D515E98C35B80D161D0CCBC3ABDAA13B7A1D0219A
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated la 1 << new blood
trinque: emily22: may have gone to bed by now
ben_vulpes: !!v D2FD5EB86434A7B6B4F850710864DF16CC6D9EF71A1A1FB860E5A16D0EC4F9A8
trinque: will you still have tits in the morning?
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated emily22 1 << new blood
trinque: stick around then. thing's right wing as hell.
trinque ftr developed through the american libertarian thing in his say 18-20 or so.
ben_vulpes: cleared my head of all sorts of retardation too
ben_vulpes: best place in the world to spend your twenties if you're into scooping bits of your own brain out
trinque: la: emily22: give self-voicing a try, so you don't have to ask permission to speak next time.
trinque: emily22: the bot you registered with controls voice. douchebag will tell ya
douchebag: im explaining in voice chat right now
la: I'm gunna go to bed now it's late and I have class T_T
douchebag: trinque: just curious, since I got .01 earlier
emily22: so does this guy just collect a bunch of tit pics?
trinque: douchebag: looks like about 0.00002 atm
trinque: and since there are two in the hopper, it gets split between the two.
trinque: if whole amount is withdrawn, I subtract fee from it, otherwise take from the balance
trinque: was actually about to cut these, and the lightning started again. so morning.
mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell la you can voice yourself by the way, just say !!up to deedbot in a pm then !!v its string.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
emily22: well I've never posted myself before...
emily22: you want me to write that?
mircea_popescu: emily22 so what do you do, other than writing on your tits ?
emily22: I'm studying for political science, but I might switch to something else, I'm not sure
emily22: Yeah, they have political science almost everywhere...
emily22: it isn't showing in the balance :P
emily22: how many girls have done this?
emily22: wait you're going to post it on that site...
douchebag: its fine nobody you know will see it
mircea_popescu: in other news, here's a novel idea for slavegirl torture : have her hit the gym really hard, then once her muscles are nice and sore and she can't defend herself... give her a nice massage or something. i sweat this thing squeezing a thigh while suckling a tit felt outright japanese.
emily22: !!withdraw 0.02 1NgN2mXwi4zc4bmVTSVdr6ciHp7LJ8L4Nj
emily22: !!v 4A003ECC24272679E8B45CCBB84BE2CE82AF3746881AC0058A7815787C3BCAE6
emily22: And I don't really know anyone who draws well
mircea_popescu: i'm toying with the idea of sponsoring a comic. you ever seen oglaf ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, something like that, but more in the vein of midnight on mars, if you know him
douchebag: ll show you some of his work when he replies
douchebag: He does a lot of political cartoons and such
mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo ben_vulpes asciilifeform : any of you read the output of uruguay's most famous (slash only) intellectual, the supposed comte de lautremont ?
deedbot: Tea_ voiced for 30 minutes.
Tea_: I heard I can make money for my tits
Tea_: I have shown pictures to bfs and stuff?
deedbot: 89517A442CE8D81AE81A70699A0DC2FF3F7554A9 registered as Tea_.
Tea_: i'm trying to make the pic look good
Tea_: uggh lol this is harder than i thought
emily22: how long have you been doing this?
emily22: is that all the girls who did it on your site?
Tea_: I have to rewrite it, it wasn't readable
emily22: so it's kind of an exclusive club, lol
mircea_popescu: check it out lol, polsci chick, wants to get to the bottom of things.
Tea_: its a shitty webcam, by phone camera is fucked
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, no good. get one that's not taken with a potato, and preferably with the light behind the camera not behind you
Tea_: okay, give me another minute
deedbot: Tea_ voiced for 30 minutes.
Tea_: mircea_popescu is this okay ?
mircea_popescu: how would you feel about taking a vacation to costa rica one of these days ?
Tea_: thats sounds alright, I would have to know you better
Tea_: !!withdraw 0.02 17rwcUhnxrVvNEVXh5AN7vdSTUz9VDv3ek
Tea_: So what do you do? Also, what about Indonesia?
Tea_: !!v E7CDACC8432283389E6BBF6AF13F594FBA143766548335A5A99D57A90A360212
douchebag: I have a picture of an adult snapping turtle I caught - sec
Tea_: I wish someone would buy me a turtle, they are so cute
Tea_: How many turtles do you have?
mircea_popescu: douchebag you really should start a blog, you know that ?
Tea_: o okay haha, so have you been to costa rica already?
Tea_: Tan, vos hablas español? jaja
douchebag: put a stick down in the mud and it made a hollow noise
douchebag: reached in and pulled the fucker out
Tea_: yo he aprendido español en Uni, pero queiro aprender mas!
mircea_popescu: Tea_ no hay mejor por aprender que vivir donde se habla.
douchebag: I love going on creek walks and catching wildlife
Tea_: Tan, si voy a la costa rica, vos podes enseñarme?
douchebag: We don't have eagles around here, we got hawks
deedbot: Tea_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: you're better rated than douchebag, he can't self voice lmao
Tea_: Has visitado los EUA ya?
deedbot: Amygifl voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: vivi en mass por casi un ano, algo asi. despues me voy en viaje por toda la costa oeste, hasta nuevo laredo
deedbot: Amygirl voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: DAD9419071F19D1127A5D6722CA450696461A7E9 registered as Amygirl.
Tea_: y españa has visitado tambien?
Tea_: me encanta espana <3
Tea_: si, madrid, leon, y barcelona
Tea_: Pero, quiero visitar otra vez barceolna
mircea_popescu shudders at the thought of what'll happen when mod6 wakes up!!
deedbot: Amygirl voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: Amygirl not really ; but i'll let you get away with it because nobody was quick enough an' as a compliment to douchebag.
mircea_popescu thinks a certain someone will have an aneurism when they see this wonder.
Amygirl: !!withdraw 0.02 1MZWuxWZaDLEkWdDXT9Q59H5UE9DQduHmL
Amygirl: !!v 4A336C3C6A6D7D6CF6342B478ADDAD34C9A88A20C584BE3FD2E0D817C0995060
mod6: mircea_popescu: Quite a parade! Who's next?
mod6: Tit parade is never a waste of time. :]
mod6: douchebag: you're keeping your volume down, bringing the girls. good work!
mod6: Also, these girls, I'd speculate have been able to register and do the task way above par. Good job guiding them through.
douchebag: Yeah, I'm glad they could figure it out haha
mod6: werd, typically that part is a struggle. not today, very nice.
douchebag: This made me the most popular person in the discord server - women messaging telling me they want to show their tits haha
emily22: It's late, so I'm getting off. Enjoy the tits <3
mod6: douchebag: did building trb go alright for ya?
mod6: ah, well, you should just be able to drop them into the right directory. are you doing the OFFLINE build?
mod6: (the ONLINE build does this for you)
mod6: looking, just a sec
ave1: !~later tell mircea_popescu re:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
ave1: !Qlater tell mircea_popescu re:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
mod6: douchebag: at the top of the howto document, it lists all of the pre-reqs you need before the build. did you ensure that you have them all?
douchebag: I thought I did I might have missed one though
douchebag: I'll get it taken care of - it's no big deal
mod6: well, im about to crash out. but let's tackle it tomorrow, we'll start fresh. no worries.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:41 phf: hmm, i wonder if adacore's gprbuild uses its own gcc or global one
ave1: Also see how the selection goes do: gprconfig --show-targets -v
ave1: And even more, you can let gprconfig make a config file (run it without any arguments) and gprbuild will then use the selected compilers.
ave1: Note that if you use the musl c library, you will only get the parts from the C library you actually use in your binary. (this is not true for gnu C library)
ave1: The parts you need on from the C library on linux are the initialization (move the commandline arguments and environment variables from locations prepared by the linux kernel to those needed in C) the functions called in your code and the finalization.
ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
ave1: I was looking into a process of getting GNU C to produce small static binaries, but put it on the back burner after reading through the code.
ave1: Sorry, GNU C library
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 21:55 spyked bbl, will replicate the output in the morning
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790159 <-- I checked on my system using ave1's instructions and it indeed uses adacore's gcc. however: gcc uses its collect2 utility for linking (for some link-time optimization stuff -- check using gcc -v source.c), which in turn uses the *system* ld, i.e. /usr/bin/ld. that's why there's a difference in the link-time behaviour
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:41 phf: hmm, i wonder if adacore's gprbuild uses its own gcc or global one
spyked: phf's ld might add an "static" to "inline"; or not, not sure; can verify by objdump'ing vdiff and seeing if there appear multiple (with local linkage) definitions of xnmalloc in the same file.
☟︎ spyked: ^ wait, this doesn't make sense. ld shouldn't know about "static" and "inline", but it might make different assumptions about the linkage nevertheless. I tested using ld 2.30 (debian) and ld 2.28 (gentoo) and got the same link errors.
spyked: anyway, I suspect all systems relying on shared libraries are stuck using the system-provided ld, regardless of the gcc version. if anything, because of the insane gcc defaults (glibc, dynamic symbols etc.) on newer distro versions.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:53 mod6: douchebag: at the top of the howto document, it lists all of the pre-reqs you need before the build. did you ensure that you have them all?
shinohai: Nice tits in log too, great way to start day.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 6 hours and 18 minutes ago: <ave1> re:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:44 douchebag: Yeah, I'm glad they could figure it out haha
douchebag: they were all windows users so I just had em use gpg4win or whatever to make the process as straightforward as possible. Couldn't imagine it being as easy telling them to use gpg CLI
douchebag: All the druggies who use silkroad boast about gpg4win so it can't be too hard haha
mircea_popescu: from experience (over a few dozen cases to date or so) it takes the average girl about a degree of magnitude more time, effort and misfires than yours managed.
douchebag: It helps being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded
mircea_popescu: you should see how much being able to whip them when they're retarded helps.
douchebag: You sure are into that kinky shit eh?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
mircea_popescu: douchebag no, because kinky connotes it's this side dish, condiment, whatever. whereas with me it's foundational.
douchebag: Ahh I see, must make things a hell of a lot more interesting
mircea_popescu: let's use the pieces on the table : you just were 10x more effective than historical record because "being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the drawback however is that i ~absolutely~ can not be retarded. not even a little bit.
shinohai: Hard level: You must convince btcvixen to let you snort a line of cocaine from it's cock.
douchebag: Maybe if there wasn't any cock involved
mircea_popescu: anyway, whadda ya think mod6 , can we get him back to positive rating ?
☟︎ mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:15 ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
mircea_popescu: yeah this is that whole histfile thing that somehow never got implemented.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated douchebag.
spyked: the way I understood it from reading v.pl, the edges in teh graph are established based on changes introduced by each hunk in the nodes (the patches). so since there are no patches changing the files in vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch, it's a leaf (and this, if I understand correctly, is intrinsic to the current design of v).
spyked has read it, but tbh, it took this particular example to finally understand the issue
mircea_popescu: i think this is kinda why the discussion's been so... dezlinata. people who ran into it vs people who mostly made their own disciplined trees and therefore hadn't.
mircea_popescu: (dezlinata = ro, literally "unwoolened", intensively something of the uneven consistency of clouds, or scattered about wool.)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyway, whadda ya think mod6 , can we get him back to positive rating ? << aha, let's try this again.
BingoBoingo: !!rate douchebag 1 WIP, has some hustle willing to creatively leverage some toilets
BingoBoingo: !!v 800E1C0DB01F742DDEAE80371C37E5442AEAED7437333054EA90E78B5E64D138
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated douchebag 1 << WIP, has some hustle willing to creatively leverage some toilets
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:32 mircea_popescu: let's use the pieces on the table : you just were 10x more effective than historical record because "being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
trinque: !!v 867C9E629EE19101DF6C556A6F34D598339C0DD85E9C07F0ACD6FE9F73CF6330
deedbot: trinque rated douchebag 1 << brought a surfeit of tits
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me actually, this is a very... classical model of tribal organization, huh. there's a boy's hut in the village where people work magic an' teh young girls "hi, i came to show you my tits".
mod6: pretty much, best announcement ever.
mod6: trinque: hey, are you paying douchebag to figure out trb on his own? or does me helping him violate what he agreed to?
trinque: what, no I'm not paying him to do it
mod6: ah, ok just "tasks" or whatnot. got it.
mod6: just checking, didn't wanna step on your toes :]
mircea_popescu: wait, was this "i'll bet you x you can't do y ; your side is indentured servitude" sorta structure ?
mircea_popescu: gambling AND slavery ? oh the pantsuit are gonna love ya
ben_vulpes: so my landlord comes over the other day, nominally to talk about installing the fence that was a condition of my renting the place, "hey i might liquidate this place within the year, do you want it? i'll credit rent paid so far to the down payment"
ben_vulpes: i was planning to live here for another three years so i might just get the place so's i can avoid having to go through the hell of another rental search. also it's a rather spiffy haus
ben_vulpes: sitting in the scales on the other side is "but mom i don't need another boat anchor holding me stateside"
lobbes: Hey, no reason it needs to anchor you. Can 'own' properties around globe neh?
lobbes just recently 'bought' 'own' house. Mainly for the lower (and fixed!) monthly expense (i.e. monthly mortgage payment ended cheaper than my previous rent, and will never increase (rents here always tend to go up)). Plus waaay more space than previous rented space
lobbes: Still, theoretically nothing stopping me from one day heading to e.g. BingoBoingostan and leaving house sitting there
BingoBoingo: lobbes: If you don't need transit grade internet Chile is an option.
lobbes: I've been slowly eyeballing Austria mainly because I enjoy what little I've learned of Deutsch (and actual Germany screams "pantsuit" based on what I've read), but it is -essentially- still in natoreich (and I dislike cold climes). Seems like all roads eventually lead to a LATAM of some sort.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hue, buying paper that can be sold to other chumps
ben_vulpes: i'm not laboring under the delusion that i'd actually own the thing
mircea_popescu: but, that said, as long as he's evaluated it and it came out green, more power to him.
BingoBoingo: lobbes: More Germans I have talked to here are thinking Hungary than Austria as places for their parents to retire.
mircea_popescu: lobbes austria is in the wrong. you buy cheap young hussies generally. romania-czech-slovakia-slovenia-serbia etc, the periphery of the empire. not austria (or hungary), the fucking center of it
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except where he's married with kids already.
mircea_popescu: anyway, his position is bolstered by the fact that from the looks of things, the empire is going to fight to the last to defend the re racket, much like body will keep liver going if it's the last thing it does.
mircea_popescu: ok, this is a gem of a lulz item the likes of which one can only encounter on the web.
mircea_popescu: there's, of course, nothing mysterious about it : it counts pageloads and 404 hits. for the walker this later point is of course the concern, you have to carefully avoid getting too many 404s per interval.
mircea_popescu: now, obviously the browser auto-follows that and gets the chimp locked. however curl does not, and consequently... THE LOCKING EXPIRES. in less than a day.
mircea_popescu: fucking imagine this imbecile of a "software engineer" from canada, who implements security via a php script the victim has to load for it to catch.
mircea_popescu: john baku belongs working for the usg, he's just about dumb enough.
mircea_popescu: PHP 5.5.30 (cli) (built: Dec 22 2015 01:39:33) works tho
mircea_popescu: and obviously 2009 vintage also works. so in between those
ave1:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790899, I'm saying use the musl C library for the "no C library on a C machine", if you do all the things it does yourself, you get the same kind of code. For example, you could do this all in ADA but you'll still have to shuffle pointers around and get this "unsafe" but it's written in Ada code.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:43 mircea_popescu:
http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321590 << so basically the way i'm interpreting what you're saying is, "there's no practical way to have no c library on a c system ; but if you want just the init and end that can be done quite minimalistically and forgetaboutit."
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:15 ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
ave1: Cool the loggers are fighting
ave1: So you've written that part in Ada but it's more clumsy as it would have been in C (because your shuffling around with C arrays)
ave1: And if you want to do this for a C program, you will end up with much the same code as MUSL.
ave1: So as long as the MUSL C library development stays sane, I would say follow it.
ave1: now I'll have to rescan the logs, never noticed it so far
mircea_popescu: anyway, let's restate : "since you're stuck with a c library anyway as long as you're on c-machine, at the very least to do init and end ; and since musl is not that terrible and only links what you use anyway ; just use it and be done with the headache -- the alternative is bloating ada with nonsense"
ave1: hmm, it seems to me the whole init stuf does not use syscall, but instead expects linux to have provided pointers at specific places (for argv and freinds)
ave1: Well now I have to get back and study that part
mod6: ave1: lol, sorry man. lemme re-do that for ya.
ave1: I'll try it the coming weeks, I have a minimal ada anyway
mod6: there you go ave1 ^
mircea_popescu: holy fuck i think we just published the first version of tmsr-kernel
mircea_popescu: that was more of an... extended bootloader ? but anyways, the lines get blurry
ave1: asciilifeform: thx will try! never went this deep before
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, news from india : tata came up with a $2500 car. "nano". it has... no 0-60, because it goes 45 at the most.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: lol, haven't seen any of those here yet but I imagine they are coming
BingoBoingo: The 900 USD new 100 to 125 cc chinese polleritas here are largely the same deal
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Or for low margin delivery businesses
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes they have these favela-like things here ("hatillo 1 through hatillo 30 or some shit). you couldn't believe what traffic jams they create.
mircea_popescu: item is literally a traffic jam in itself, perpetual, unyielding, eternal.
mircea_popescu: basically road rings connected to road stems, like a fungus.
mircea_popescu: doods living there own (well, "own") $1-5000 houses they made themselves, generally by buying planks/metal/whatever and hooking it up with the cousins. universally one level, and then 2-5 cars, more or less broken down, worth another 2-5k
ave1:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1791023, mod6, did you run gprbuild -v in the directory containing vdiff.gpr, it did not seem to pick it up (it does with my local gprbuild, which has same version etc as yours).? It should show the absolute path to the gcc that is used during the build.
☝︎ ben_vulpes: > an autistic Romanian named Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu: i suspect by now "autistic" is the equivalent of the 1800s "friend". "one of ours" as opposed to "one of theirs"
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