asciilifeform: lolwat
mircea_popescu: the joinparty
asciilifeform: aa BingoBoingo put it in heathenpit. ty BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform reads...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-09#1821861 << d00d managed to pick a box even moar boobytrapped than cbook☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 23:11 BingoBoingo: Torvalds would love to have an ARM laptop for development and use, but doesn't know if the new Snapdragon machines can disable Secure Boot, either." followed immediately by alf's Odinturd in their punchbowl
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-09#1821790 << where is this used ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 22:05 loper_os_cr50: Currently reverse engineering the Holtek E-Link ICP
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-09#1821794 << i briefly dug for detail, found nuffin... what is it ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 22:08 loper_os_cr50: I should probably make a blog, maybe I’ll do that. The point of it is to bypass their pay per chip scam and release it eventually
mircea_popescu: hopefully the dood stays true to his word, comes back in normal clothes.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-09#1821831 << i gotta wonder, when meeting people in meatspace, does he also make up gensym names each time he shakes a hand..☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 22:26 loper_os_cr50: Mircea_popescu: I establish identity temporarily and then move on. But I don’t see how anonymity necessitates solitude
mircea_popescu: i expect. it'd be just like bond, right ? haime bond ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. the reason this rather than some random other idiocy is the centerpiece inca relies on to survive is not coincidental. deeply seated fantasy of the narcissist mind.
asciilifeform: just picture what 'normal on the net' folx would look like if they did same in meatland
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/search-and-destroy/#selection-65.1-58.7 << this.
asciilifeform: i can picture how habitual swimming in reddit sewage might encourage the disease in susceptible but healthy folx tho
asciilifeform: after soaking in reddit, feel like pulling own skin off
asciilifeform: so they don't let it touch skin.
asciilifeform: veeery little on the current-day net is worth coming back to, cultivating a relation with, etc
asciilifeform: how is random double-e d00d to know, that he's found 'shangri-la'.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: !!up loper_os_cr50
deedbot: loper_os_cr50 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, dunno if you care, but your blog signs as "" which ain't proper.
asciilifeform: signs ?
mircea_popescu: !!up loper_os_cr50
deedbot: loper_os_cr50 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/#comment-125949
asciilifeform: interesting, i'ma have to pop the hood and see why
asciilifeform: ( did this ever even work at all..? )
mircea_popescu: hmm dunno lessee
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/unsorted-collection-of-various-cardano-related-updates-spurious-pics/#comment-97390 < used to work yes.
mircea_popescu: but not in the intervening 3 years.
mircea_popescu: back then you were on a diff host too.
asciilifeform: noape
asciilifeform: nfs co since '07
asciilifeform: will have to look, currently i have only faint idea how the backlink thing even worx
mircea_popescu: diff ip at any rate.
asciilifeform: oh diff ip erry coupla wks, i think
asciilifeform: ( whole scheme of nfs co's antiddos cluster thing )
mircea_popescu: ah ok, may be it. though, different A blocks ?!
asciilifeform: iirc they own several swaths of ipv4ola
mircea_popescu: alrighty then, that must be it.
asciilifeform: !!up loper_os_cr50_
deedbot: loper_os_cr50_ voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: hello?
loper_os_cr50_: Hi
asciilifeform: who might you be?
loper_os_cr50_: One guy that found your blog interesting
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: more specifically? are you working with the iron from cr50 article?
loper_os_cr50_: Not working yet that would be pretentious. Sick of dirty chip and code. Search for pure trust and control over the machine. Have yet to learn a lot before starting to work. For now I read.
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: ok, enjoy
loper_os_cr50_: And I'm curious so I clicked
mircea_popescu: loper_os_cr50 the logs are your best bet.
loper_os_cr50_: I saw that
loper_os_cr50_: I enjoyed it
mircea_popescu: mmm. what did you see ?
loper_os_cr50_: Lots of things that I got trouble to get ;) Reverse engineering skills there
mircea_popescu: lol. mkay, it goes back many years and there's a lot of material. generally it's recommended noobs spend 6 months reading through it.
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: what's your native lang?
loper_os_cr50_: I'm not surprised
loper_os_cr50_: French
mircea_popescu: that's not a crime.
loper_os_cr50_: Ahahahah
loper_os_cr50_: Yep shit happen
loper_os_cr50_: What do you guys think about the librem effort?
asciilifeform: crock of shit,
loper_os_cr50_: Why?
asciilifeform: !#s librem
a111: 8 results for "librem", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=librem
mircea_popescu: ~
asciilifeform: see also
asciilifeform: !#s purism
a111: 8 results for "purism", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=purism
asciilifeform: intel. with blobs, and hefth dose of delusionism.
asciilifeform: *hefty
loper_os_cr50_: No way to free/bypass it?
loper_os_cr50_: There must be a way for a clean solution!
asciilifeform: not even known what all of 'it' ~is~?
asciilifeform: think.
mircea_popescu: loper_os_cr50, why do you think that ?!
loper_os_cr50_: Just trying to picture for now, do not even try to think yet
loper_os_cr50_: I agree 'it' is unknown
loper_os_cr50_: I should probably search now for risc-v
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: why would you want to buy expensive, power-wasting , hot-running chip from the foremost nsa bug factory, if you don't have to ?
asciilifeform: riscv is a turd
asciilifeform: !#s riscv
a111: 3 results for "riscv", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=riscv
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739631 << mandatory thread☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 17:34 asciilifeform: btw http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739595 is entirely correct, and quite surreal
mircea_popescu: well i suspect it's rather the case he'd like to buy ~something~.
asciilifeform: well i went and 'hey let's try arm64...'
asciilifeform: and nao reporting on the experiments
asciilifeform: there unfortunately is not much to choose from
asciilifeform: esp if you want a laptop
asciilifeform: !!up loper_os_cr50
deedbot: loper_os_cr50 voiced for 30 minutes.
loper_os_cr50_: Was reading logs
mircea_popescu: *thumbsup*
mircea_popescu shall bbl.
loper_os_cr50_: I'll continue my journey, I may come up with something useful one day
loper_os_cr50_: Enjoy guys, see you in 6 months after the reading
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: i recommend to register with deedbot nao
asciilifeform: then we will have some notion of which you, you were, when you come back..
loper_os_cr50_: What would you want to know?
asciilifeform: when you make a key and register with deedbot, you become a person, until then just a spirit
asciilifeform: you're the, what, 5th, 6th? loper_os_cr50 to log in today..
asciilifeform: !!up loper_os_cr50_
deedbot: loper_os_cr50_ voiced for 30 minutes.
loper_os_cr50_: You might receive more visit, Google now reference your last post on cr50 that's what made me arrive at first on your page. Then I spent the rest of the evening reading.
loper_os_cr50_: I'll register
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: you were searching via google for cr50 ?
loper_os_cr50_: No I wasn't even searching. Just grab that android stuff and it suggested that strange card about the fritz chip.
asciilifeform: aa lol
loper_os_cr50_: Took me a while to read and get it
loper_os_cr50_: Was cooking all the link sending me back to the logs.
asciilifeform: i expect google will censor the thing from their own index first thing on monday opening hour
loper_os_cr50_: Figuring out who was talking
asciilifeform: !!up loper_os_cr50__
deedbot: loper_os_cr50__ voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform will bbl.
mircea_popescu: !!up loper_os_cr50
deedbot: loper_os_cr50 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: so who might you be loper_os_cr50
mircea_popescu: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/ for the entomologist ; one luzy moment in the endless stream of idiocy that is 3rd millenium foss.
mircea_popescu: (gtk, for the disinterested, is "let's migrate the browser model to the desktop".)
mircea_popescu: !!up amstan
deedbot: amstan voiced for 30 minutes.
amstan: mircea_popescu: multumesc
mircea_popescu: yw. what brings you here ?
amstan: well, that interesting blog post
amstan: from asciilifeform
amstan: tought i should join this to see if you guys have any discoveries
mircea_popescu: you mean specifically on sending alphabet packing out of computing ? or more generally ?
amstan: i mean i doubt it, but to be fair i don't know much about how it works, just how it's connected to the system
asciilifeform: oh hey it's the good sir 'nobody has the cr50 key'
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/06/10/chasing-the-elusive-euloran-quality/ << Ossasepia - Chasing the Elusive Euloran Quality
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, dude's some inconsequential politruk, see https://archive.is/MrjAB https://archive.is/AFjoC etc lulz.
mircea_popescu: if he hadn't heard of the third reich instrument of surrender he'd be going around his village singing "tomorrow belongs to me". as it is, he derps on the periphery of google. if he realised tmsr owns the world he'd be "community organizing" for you. and so on.
mircea_popescu: !!v |\n
mircea_popescu: !!up |\n
deedbot: |\n voiced for 30 minutes.
|\n: o/
mircea_popescu: |\n who are you then, cleverboi
|\n: i'm just a dude
mircea_popescu: yeah, i wasn't about to take you for one of the fet sluts. what brings you here ?
|\n: i've seen your name on some resources i read from time to time because pals discuss it as well
mircea_popescu: i c.
|\n: and whatver if theres some secret stuff i might leave
|\n: in particular, i've decided to visit this channel because of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2433
mircea_popescu: you mean like that one time we took over a bunch of electricity generators for lulz ? or what secrets.
mircea_popescu: not the time chicks kept coming in to show us their tits, that's no secret, is that ?
|\n: now i'd like to stay lol
mircea_popescu: (refs http://trilema.com/2017/the-incidental-humiliation-of-obamas-clean-energy-policies-marc-andreessens-internet-of-farts-and-other-such-comedic-gold-bricks/ and http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ for the noobs)
mircea_popescu: !!up ivan
deedbot: ivan voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: did you want to share anything with the group, ivan ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821714 << will do, i've had all the parts shipped at this point, but i won't be back until monday..☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-08 17:30 asciilifeform: phf: if you are able to build the usb snake -- lemme know which cr50 turd ver is in your box
mircea_popescu: lol phf you should start a hiking club with mocky >D
Mocky: I'll be hiking in northern virginia in two weeks, not sure how close to the swamp...
mircea_popescu: o there he is. howdy
Mocky: howdy
Mocky: !Q later tell lobbes I just got back from uwharrie national forest, ~50km east of Charlotte. ftr, 'deep river' is misnomer, more like 'shallow creek'
lobbesbot: Mocky: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, would it be a good time to try out your foxybot nao ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822011 << he's the hint-dropping d00d from #rockchip☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 15:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, dude's some inconsequential politruk, see https://archive.is/MrjAB https://archive.is/AFjoC etc lulz.
asciilifeform: and apparently also this
mircea_popescu wasn't there.
asciilifeform: https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-06-07#22286942;
asciilifeform: and the 'trust yer hardware that you have' fella
asciilifeform: and the 'we'll post some schems real soon nao, just wait' fella, etc
asciilifeform: i had nfi that he was from ro, this is extra lulzy somehow
asciilifeform: ( they have a googlarium in ro?! )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1821998 << observe that, in asciilifeform's 2015--present gentoo recipe, gtk3+ is banned☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 05:00 mircea_popescu: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/ for the entomologist ; one luzy moment in the endless stream of idiocy that is 3rd millenium foss.
asciilifeform: ( it pulls in dbus )
Mocky: mircea_popescu, i've found an issue with stacking so suggest to wait until next version. today or tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: alrighty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, alphabet essentially survives, in the perceptible rather than the byzantine imaginarium sense, out of their orclands outposts. exactly as described in http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-121.0-121.824
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re gtk+ 3, observe that the dumbass orcs in the comment section are all about "i don't see why you wouldn't '''upgrade''' your desktop to browserhood"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822006 << amstan you can post those asus schems any time you feel like being useful; i will publish them. if you want to do it anon, pgp mircea_popescu or asciilifeform☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 06:28 amstan: tought i should join this to see if you guys have any discoveries
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did see a microshit cubefarm in bucharest. so this makes sense.
asciilifeform: even in usa hq, they make use of ample coolie labour
mircea_popescu: are you kidding me, intel has a tiny thing here even.
asciilifeform: in bananistan?!
mircea_popescu: i thought i linked some "genius orc" kids at some point.
asciilifeform: oh hm
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy because over here it's so low budget, you can directly see the underwiring.
mircea_popescu: well, you. the locals are too kind and simple for any sight.
asciilifeform: re gtkism -- asciilifeform can'twait to see how the derps react to the revelation that asciilifeform's gentoos hardban gtk3/dbus/pulseaudio/whole shebang
asciilifeform: ( naturally including the one for c101pa box )
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as overwhelmed.
asciilifeform: in other lulles, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17274771 << 'flagged'
asciilifeform: elsewhere in heathendom, https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8pyaec/the_google_h1_fritz_chip/ << usg brigade out in force, 'this is just a tpm, cannot reflash fw' etc 'say it 3 times, it'll be true'isms
asciilifeform: the hilarious bit is that the published src has 100% of the lulz out in plain daylight. incl, e.g., the bootrom-writeprotect override function in cr50, the magic pubkeys, the bit that turns wireless on during idle, etc
asciilifeform: the 'of course you can't have SEKOORITY without goldenkeys!', 'prove! nsa involved!', etc derps, all awoken from under their rocks, working.
BingoBoingo: Noiseholes!
asciilifeform: i suspect that the whole incident will be unhappened soon enuff, added to same googleban db as trilema , phuctor, etc
asciilifeform: ( their phuctor filter is esp lulzy, gives not null but specifically ancient stale pages, boeck's 'rebuttal', reddit. etc )
asciilifeform: lovingly hand-crafted.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, none of the fucktards can, or ever have, or have any intention of reading source.
mircea_popescu: gotta be explained "what this means to them", which is what the nigger brigade is for, from http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=anil+dash to http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ to what have you.
Mocky: it's eye opening for me to see how it looks from this side where asciilifeform exposes obvious stench which is met with chorus of 'nah, it smells good'. apparently 'till now I've been the local, ala: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822065☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 16:51 mircea_popescu: well, you. the locals are too kind and simple for any sight.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, regular occurence on this side of the zone.
mircea_popescu: but, amusingly enough, the conversation with the chick who thought herself a domme controls here! imagine that, you know, sex determining matters scientific, how unfair and improper and in breach of implicit promises made by the "civilisation" of tedious old women.
BingoBoingo: !!up apt-get
deedbot: apt-get voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: yet http://trilema.com/2018/when-cherri-met-rae-rae-also-met-cherri/ vs http://trilema.com/2018/an-examination-of-conflict/ strictly and exactly describes the problem. the captive aren't captive because they were captured, they're captive because that's what they fucking are.
apt-get: thanks, but no need, I'm just here to lurk
mircea_popescu: and as far as most mouthbreathers are concerned, the world is too much and the little glass bead of "nigger explains what '''events mean to me'''" archsufficient.
BingoBoingo: apt-get: lurking for the Fritzchip or the training camp?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, imagine the ambiguity we dwell in! it's not even fucking clear.
apt-get: fritz, although I'm not really much of an expert when it comes to hardware stuff in any way
mircea_popescu: apt-get, so why would you care, if i may ask ?
apt-get: hmm, I find this stuff interesting, I guess?
apt-get: stumbled upon the loper blog by luck and I found it to be a cool project
apt-get: (cr50 reversal, that is)
mircea_popescu: so is it rather a political investment, something in the vein of http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ , "i wish to touch the bars of my cage with mine own hands" ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822076 << no, you know, it's an algorithm :D protects the worshipful from toxicfacts and things, making google very fucking useful for no purpose whatsoever in the process.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 17:55 asciilifeform: lovingly hand-crafted.
apt-get: Well, I don't know if my political leanings would necessarily imply going to such lengths as described in that manifesto, but I am indeed supportive of any attempt to free computing from the proprietary and government boulders placing themselves between the user and the product.
mircea_popescu: the practical problem, though, is that depending of how generous you are with the notion of user, a world without such an interface may not even be possible.
mircea_popescu: if the priors are anything like a) "anyone should have access to computers" and b) "to use as they see fit", you'll be back to some kind of nsa fritz chip in very short order, especially if you're committed to equalitarian socialism (or, "democracy", to use the in-universe names)
apt-get: I suppose such conditions could be theoretically enforced in a democratic system... but it would imply making the general populace to both be aware and feel threatened by these issues, which isn't going to happen anytime soon, practically speaking.
BingoBoingo: !!up apt-get
deedbot: apt-get voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: seems perfectly aware and very very fucking threatened to me, lol.
mircea_popescu: can't apply livresque standards of awareness to the herd, they're not human in that sense. you believe cattle is aware of electified fence, even if no cow ever sat down with you and stated as much over beers and buffalo wings.
mircea_popescu: same thing here, by purely behavioural standards they're as aware as could be.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they wouldn't go about pretending like they believe google is in any way different from groupon, a purely imaginary, 100% paper construction.
apt-get: convenience of usability will always trump freedom when it comes to these things, which is why you don't see minifree or purism making bank on their libre hardware.
mircea_popescu: except the part where the convenience of doing stupid thing is just as inconvenient as anything.
asciilifeform: ... or maybe because it's shit
mircea_popescu: there's just about 0 convenience delivered by the tools of "convenience" and "usability".
asciilifeform: 'purism', 'minifree', organs of the beast.
apt-get: convenience isn't limited to the device itself, it also encompasses a large ecosystem of both social and technical incentives to enter a firm's walled garden.
apt-get: and I don't believe it's possible to fight multi-billion entities when it comes to this.
apt-get: :/
mircea_popescu: from experience, the only incentive is purelty internal : slave belongs inside, goes inside.
mircea_popescu: apt-get, tmsr is a multi-billion entity.
mircea_popescu: so yes, it is not possible to fight tmsr when it comes to this. all shall crumble before it.
mircea_popescu: techcrunch.com/2017/08/11/the-minifree-libreboot-t400-is-free-as-in-freedom/ << lol the ersatzen.
mircea_popescu: am i supposed to not notice the overpowering flavour of mendacity, "hey, we already did what phuctor does!!!!" story all over again ?
mircea_popescu: nuts.
mircea_popescu: techcrunch.com/2016/12/08/the-libreboot-c201-from-minifree-is-really-really-really-ridiculously-open-source/ :D
mircea_popescu: i dunno why anyone looks to hollywood for fiction production. the usg directorate of propaganda manages some pretty hysterical comedies.
asciilifeform: i can already picture, 'why complain, cr50 100% opensores!'
mircea_popescu: Се́веро-Кавка́зский край really really really ridiculously well supplied with all kind and manner of foodstuffs!
mircea_popescu: even belt buckles.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/harold-and-maude/ << Trilema - Harold and Maude
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/towards-a-computer-science-education/ << esthlos - Towards a Computer Science Education
esthlos: ^^ I'm curious what folx think of the above. Reading through the logs, FFA, etc., I've realized how little I know. So I'm thinking that I'll have to devote the majority of my effort to learning the ropes wrt computing before I can pull my weight in here. Does this make sense?
mircea_popescu: ima read it.
esthlos: thanks
mircea_popescu: languages) which << spurious )
mircea_popescu: esthlos, actually, do you want comments there ? or here ?
esthlos: there, please
mircea_popescu: done.
mircea_popescu: your comment thing ate my spaces.
esthlos: hmm, will have to look into that
esthlos: looks like nuking the auto-paragraph feature for posts also nuked it for comments
mircea_popescu: well if you'd find it in your heart ot fix it i'd be grateful.
esthlos: will do.
mircea_popescu: also, nice favicon.
mircea_popescu: slut looking over my shoulder was all like "oooo, shiny! i want one like that!"
esthlos: thanks, geometry of color is verrry interresting (shitpedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_space)
esthlos: bah that article is terrible. see http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/colortheory/web/hsv.html
mircea_popescu: lol. that's ok, i heard of color before.
esthlos: haha
asciilifeform: !!up loper_os_cr50
deedbot: loper_os_cr50 voiced for 30 minutes.
esthlos: mircea_popescu: replied
mircea_popescu: word.
asciilifeform lols over the various crapola mail, 'purism!', 'cured intel really!', etc
mircea_popescu: w/e.
asciilifeform: and if i had a bitcent for every 'use this lappy we carved from old refrigerator panels and raspberry pi..' etc
mircea_popescu: the amusing part is just how repetitive it all is lol.
asciilifeform: homo redditicus is lethally boring, yes.
asciilifeform: esthlos: i recommend fewer pediwikia links. ( granted i suffered from same habit in early loper-os articles. but cured nao. )
asciilifeform: esthlos: if you must -- link to archived copies, which at least won't change from under you.
asciilifeform: esthlos: in re the b00kz -- i have okasaki, and must note, he is a mathematically interesting read, but 100% useless in actual practice, unless you use 'lazy-evaluated' prog langs
esthlos: asciilifeform: makes sense wrt the wiki.
esthlos: i haven't opened that one yet, good to know. have you ever checked out john alan's book? It's kinda a denser sicp, and predates it
mircea_popescu: all these items from back when people read books.
asciilifeform: esthlos: i have. it is for dedicated aficionados strictly ( uses deeply archaic notation, and generally concerned with deeply 'pre-modern' lisps )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for archaeologists strictly.
mircea_popescu: brains have sensibly flattened since hte golden age of the hardbound
esthlos: are there good books on the matter which *aren't* archaeological?
asciilifeform: esthlos: there ain't, and likely won't be
esthlos: fun fun
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822031 << phf keep in mind that the resistors gotta be, iirc, accurate within 5%. hence why i used trimpots.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 16:05 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821714 << will do, i've had all the parts shipped at this point, but i won't be back until monday..
asciilifeform: ( until i got'em trimmed in, 'suzy' worked 'every other time' )
asciilifeform: while we're on the subj, i find it interesting how both google and intel ( and by extension, all new mb makers ) finessed the problem of 'terrorists will epoxy usb ports closed' -- nao usg can get 'airport quickie' root through a hole that you cannot cement, because the box charges ~only~ from it
asciilifeform: ( this is the case in, e.g., all new crapple boxen )
esthlos: is it possible to trash the non-power pins?
asciilifeform: esthlos: theoretically, under microscope
asciilifeform: you can't cut ~all~ of them, however, the 'negotiation' (CC1/CC2) pins are used by the mains bricks
asciilifeform: 'smart' power bricks, see.
asciilifeform: the 'go and cut pins' thing will ~work for certain purposes, but in the very near term it will become entirely unproductive -- they are moving the whole orchestra into single chip. ( e.g. crapple is ~already there. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822099 << not sure i grasp this. even wintel merrily sold un-fritzed boxen for many years, until 2nd bush-II term or so.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 18:26 mircea_popescu: the practical problem, though, is that depending of how generous you are with the notion of user, a world without such an interface may not even be possible.