BingoBoingo: So, the only noticable impact of the "ciclono extratropical" that hit here is a bunch of gunk washed up on the beach.
BingoBoingo: And apparently in Colonia (the place where cheese comes from) the river gunk turning over messed with their water treatment plant.
mod6: Wasn't worth the long lines eh?
BingoBoingo: Not particularly, but the local news has to do the panic thing to make ad sales I guess.
BingoBoingo: Not at all like back in the states where storms would turn into multi day blackouts
BingoBoingo: I remember very recently back in the US the power was out for an extended period of time because it was summer and the line carrying power into town caught fire.
BingoBoingo: Then there was the one spring week after a wind storm.
BingoBoingo: And two different winters with ~week outages
BingoBoingo: But all of those were after 2006. Before that it was only the occasional hour or so during thunderstorms.
mod6: Yikes, week is a long time.
BingoBoingo: Watching Naked Gun 33 1/3, my how rauchy comedy fell between there and Retard Pie pocas años despues
BingoBoingo: The question is, which year in the 90s did Pantsuit win
mircea_popescu: kinda what all these are derived from, hardblown, method-acted comedy. it's a cinematic adaptation of a roadshow style of entertainment (much like the "high class production" fred astaire / frank sinatra etc were in try to steal broadway for the studios)
mircea_popescu: in other, ongoing lulz of the endless saga : "*** stack smashing detected ***: <unknown> terminated" << wine (as bundled with the shitty ubuntu in question, v 3.0-1) abuses "stack protection" to
crash perfectly fine programs (in this case, king's bounty - warriors of the north).
mircea_popescu: so one, obviously, is stuck installing a proper wine on the system, because fuck me if i'm not getting off beginner island (VERY fucking annoying manifestation of the bug -- crashes you in the final battle, with that asswipe eric).
mircea_popescu: "configure: error: no suitable flex found." doh. so you install flex. "configure: error: no suitable bison found."
a111: Logged on 2019-06-09 13:05 mircea_popescu: b) install gcc. and then make. because it SHIPS WITHOUT THESE. and then of course discover the current versions don't match what the kernel was compiled with.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 15:50 mircea_popescu: remarkable just how useless computers are these days. so first, i chugged in 2gb of ubuntu. the moment it came up it wanted to get a further 450mb of "updates". then it turns out ~every game out there has pretty much outsourced its distribution (and, i suspect, debugging, such as it is) to steam (with a minor gog presence as well). so you gotta install steam. that's only 50mb or so, but a third layer by now.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 19:59 mircea_popescu: meanwhile continuing the
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-19#1918697 nonsense : wine doesn't work worth a shit on the new ubuntu. it never worked splendidly, granted, but it was quite workable last i looked into this half decade ago. it degraded significantly. for instance, after a bunch of installing various, i'm left with a taskbar fulla dead icons. (well, in fairness they bring up a transparent exclamation point in a tria
mircea_popescu: needing bison ? well yeah, xml wasn't enough, gotta gnu
mircea_popescu: or do you mean, "shipping broken" ? cuz sure, it is, but what the fuck did they put in those FOUR cds ? the gfx is shitty, the accessibility broken and the compiling dun werk.
diana_coman: shipping broken + "install flex" "oh, but ALSO bison ofc"
diana_coman: pretty much when they ask for flex, bison follows
mircea_popescu: and speaking of terrible accessibility : they changed the taskbar structure from purely linear to a sorta broken tree, so that all terminals snap together into a single terminal icon (holy shit WHY, everyone's taskbar is 90% terms and that is THE ONLY REASON to even HAVE clickable taskbars) so now i have to do two clicks, one to bring up a derpy bubble and a second to bring up the wanted terminal, which blows btw because n
mircea_popescu: so i brought back screen to manage the term sessions for these idiots. THIS is the sense of progress : from 10.04 to 18.04, they lost terminal management, i'm back to screen. i didn't actually use it in 10.04
mircea_popescu: ubuntu, made by people who don't understand computers for people who don't need computers.
diana_coman: I'm not sure the 2 groups are any different really
mircea_popescu: does anyone by any chance remember which the fuck trilema article contained this image of a chavy teenage chick, straddling a dude in a car, knees bent, jeans still on but lifted off her cunt, shoving the dude underneath's manhood into her cunt with the left hand ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: can't fucking find anything on this blog of mine, by now it's taking longer to amass the references than it takes to write a god damned article.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : you may build and even install a proper wine (ie, configured without the derp-ass gcc "stack protection", that evidently doesn't work) ; and it'll even work, system-wide. however that doesn't mean playonlinux won't stick to its sadder, older version. and of course you can't just force-copy symlinks over in its holy directory, because they're all brokenly relative, and gns resolution works as shown in that p
mircea_popescu: well so let's see here : i can't play, because after sinking however many hours in chasing dependencies and fixing assorted if widely distributed breakage the end story is that "foss" has managed to really give the whole game away -- there is ONE chain, consisting of play on linux so-and-so using wine-so-and-so on ubuntu this-and-that, and you pray it works -- because if it doesn't work, THAT IS IT, "there was an error" li
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ke in the windows days, entirely and utterly unfixable. there's no alternate paths anymore, you can't get wine x to work with pol y anymore than you can get a chunk of windows nt to drop-in replace some chunk of windows vista.
mircea_popescu: and i can't write, because i need a reference i can no longer find.i have no fucking idea how to fix this sort of problem, nor do i truly speaking expect it'll ever get fixed. so w/e, i guess ima trash this thousand words and move on. except the specter of "there's an X% chance you won't be able to complete the article you wish to write" is sufficiently chilling to permanently discourage one from even starting.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 10:16 mircea_popescu: does anyone by any chance remember which the fuck trilema article contained this image of a chavy teenage chick, straddling a dude in a car, knees bent, jeans still on but lifted off her cunt, shoving the dude underneath's manhood into her cunt with the left hand ?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 16:38 asciilifeform: 'modern linux komyooniti' is quite loyal organ of 'tame opposition', the occasional 20m of biodegradable monopoly money gifted to the occasional esr (who incidentally is begging for change to buy wheelchair, reportedly his legs went) goes long way
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 14:36 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was a name for this, 'kitchen intellectuals'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it worked fine, i played heroes etc on it last time around (cca 2010 or so)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it didn't work ALWAYS, and yes, precisely dr. dos problem as you describe it.
mircea_popescu: but it didn't work when ti didn't work because of the program in question using exotic weird, not because "we shoot selves in foot with buggy half-working gcc stack protection misfeature"
scriba: TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable (file "modules/archive.py", line 59, in archive_a_url)
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 10:16 mircea_popescu: does anyone by any chance remember which the fuck trilema article contained this image of a chavy teenage chick, straddling a dude in a car, knees bent, jeans still on but lifted off her cunt, shoving the dude underneath's manhood into her cunt with the left hand ?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 14:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it worked fine, i played heroes etc on it last time around (cca 2010 or so)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh, there's no such thing as sorta-clean toilet.
mircea_popescu: wine necessarily fucks around with the stack, as part of what it DOES.
mircea_popescu: if you compile it with -fstack-protector it fails in this manner (not just on this game, but many). if you compile it without, it works fine -- however the downstream tree (playonlinux etc) can't very well be coerced to use it.
mircea_popescu: which is the problem here -- there's nothing open source about this atrocity.
mircea_popescu: ^ kidna curious if anyone can tell the fracture, whereby mp couldn't find what he wanted, lost interest.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform play on linux ? no, it's basically a multi-mb pile of "useful python scripts" for running wine. basically, it's automake for windows proggies running in wine.
mircea_popescu: the problem being that by now it escaped any sort of human control.
mircea_popescu: wine per se is an attempt to implement the windows api in posix.
mircea_popescu: aaand meanwhile, managing to bash a non-protected hand-compiled wine in the playonlinux hairball has exposed the underlying error : 002b:fixme:d3d_shader:print_glsl_info_log 0(24) : warning C7050: "vs_out[11]" might be used before being initialized
mircea_popescu: there's a broken shader / nvidia card issue at work here, it's not what i thought at first, pure spuriousness.
mircea_popescu: i suspect what's happening is that the gl is trying to do depth comparison on a texture with no depth, through a sampling shader. which...
mircea_popescu: at least now it's crashing properly, so i know what the fuck to do.
mircea_popescu: "stack protectors" are such a dumbass idea, i swear. who are they supposed to help ? the dumb user doesn't need the stack protected, he needs programs that don't smash it. and the smart user doesn't need fucking blindfolds on, he needs honest, informative and actionable errors. wtf "generic fault of a generic type"
a111: Logged on 2015-08-13 18:52 asciilifeform: mats: folks who begin from 'mitigation' position, cannot win by definition. they aren't even trying to. just to 'lose more slowly'
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever, i'm not gonna debug shaders now. muh kb-wotn is broken and that's that.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell danielpbarron Was this latest DDoS another member of your fan club?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: For me it is loading on one browser and not the other
BingoBoingo: Aite, so what happened is the DC had the ip nullrouted to mitigate the attack.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It did do good in making everything else on Pizarro accessible.
BingoBoingo: During both events today, machines other than UY1 became inaccessible including Qntra and my rockchip
BingoBoingo: Well, he created datapoints. That's done. Now the thing is this is interfering with the serivce of other customers.
BingoBoingo: He's evangelizing his church on EFNet where there are no cloaks
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nah, the point of similarity is "things derps don't want to be said", not "things of substance".
mircea_popescu: if you're going by vermin's reaction, you can't introduce the spurious criterion of "is this delicious from my pov".
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The thing is we have one pipe. That your dulap scroll continued has an element of luck. DDoS lab requires more routing than we have implemented.
BingoBoingo: Indeed, but a shared IP clearly isn't the place to do it. Historically republican doctrine has been to wait out DDoS attacks, but keeping everyone else up is a problem
BingoBoingo: There also seems to me that there is difference in DDoS aiming to target a website and a DDoS targeting an IRC user out of some sort of behavioral retraining effort.
BingoBoingo: I'm mulling it over. It seems like he is going into their spaces, taking a piss, and getting told not to do that. Repeatedly.
mircea_popescu: if one's systematically dedicated to not doing anything useful, sooner or later one necessarily finds himself burning all his time on dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: that sort of infantile misbehaviour eminently fits the bill.
BingoBoingo: Which is why I bring the thing up here. I'm not certain what to do. I am rather certain that whatever is done, a shared shell isn't the place to repeatedly draw aggro after having done so the first few times.
mircea_popescu: would also immensely help if pizarro was significantly larger by now.
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, you know going into the game that sooner or later, this sorta thing will happen.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 21:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to request that dc perma-refrain from monkeying with our ip space.