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BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16413.0, vol: 16683.29327574 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16643.95894003, vol: 78223.52808399 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16522.4, vol: 4555.0776512 | Volume-weighted last average: 16599.6518618
mats: i keep seeing 'traumatic brain injury' in your statements, BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: so i re-watched la grande belezza for like the twelfth time. it's possibly the greatest film ever made. or maybe i'm just slow -- for instance, only now did it finally occur to me that the giulio moneta, "uno dei dieci latitanti piu ricercati del mondo" was in fact a straight reference to m m denaro.
mircea_popescu: aaand here's a bit for trinque 's humanities studies : "Dies irae, dias illa solved saeculum in favilla teste David cum Sibylla ; quantus tremor est futurus quando Judex est venturus cuncta stricte discussurus!"
lobbes: !!balance
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/
mircea_popescu: o.O
trinque: hmwat
mircea_popescu: !!balance
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4MPLr/?raw=true
lobbes: I wonder if this has to do with: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734399 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 21:13 lobbes: and yeah, I overlooked that I apparently had to also remove expiration on the sub -explicitly- (via gpg --edit-key). Even though it was showing the sub as 'expiration: none' after I had removed expiration on the pub way back when
mircea_popescu: i guess his is shorter
trinque: lol
trinque: lobbes: oh yeah, that machine is quite likely to have your old key
trinque will also look into what floppy lispism resulted in that URL
lobbes: word. I'm in no real rush either way (and I think I only had around 0.001 on there)
trinque: lobbes: give it another pull
lobbes: !!balance
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/DEZG5/?raw=true ☟︎
lobbes: nice!
lobbes: and confirmed: balance matches
trinque: mircea_popescu: will put that in the study queue. something about visions of angry, loosened/secularized days, maybe? gotta cram more tenses into my skull.
mircea_popescu: sibylla, yes ? and david ?
mircea_popescu: it's like... a 900 year old text about cryptoconcerns.
trinque: http://www.preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/Hymni/DiesIrae.html << neat, found full text
mircea_popescu: the 1800s anglican englishversion is not bad, either.
trinque: is the "illa" there not "they" or "those", as in referring to the subjects at end of the first line?
trinque: can't tell if the translation is just macroexpanding "dies irae" with the "dreadful day" or if there's another "illa"
mircea_popescu: macroexpanding
trinque: could see the former, "look kid, your language takes saying it twice to understand irae"
trinque: aha
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i suspect twice may be an understatement
mircea_popescu: "nobody could have predicted", after all.
mod6: asciilifeform: ok I got it working with gnat-2016. somehow i had a corrupted install i believe. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AOIKx/?raw=true
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj
asciilifeform: congrats mod6
asciilifeform: trinque: i've wondered for some time , is the thing where your walletron throws pgpciphered matter into the greater void, as in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749739 , without the addressee's name in the line -- deliberate design choice ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 02:21 deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/DEZG5/?raw=true
asciilifeform: and if so -- why
asciilifeform: often the link pops up hour or moar after the invocation, and i end up clicking, expecting traditional (i.e. plaintext) deedbot material ☟︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> congrats mod6 << thanks for the blog posts!
asciilifeform: yw mod6
lobbes: !!invoice danielpbarron 0.00024 http://deedbot.org/deed-473777-3.txt
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GOX2n/?raw=true
lobbes: !!v C9851BC0DF6A2F6FB5A32CE817F6A8A8CC3205513F80DB14D8A5AE9C72F897E3
deedbot: Invoiced danielpbarron 0.00024 << http://deedbot.org/deed-473777-3.txt
mircea_popescu: !~calc 0.00024 * 17133.3184732
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 0.00024 * 17133.3184732 = 4.111996433568001
mircea_popescu: seems so improbable. ☟︎
danielpbarron: !!received-invoices
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kN1AU/?raw=true
danielpbarron: !!pay-invoice lobbes 1
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yEGl4/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: if you're talking about http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749036 my guess is that's a block inclusion receipt ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-09 02:28 deedbot: hanbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zHdaA/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: no, without a name
ben_vulpes: the linked one is not one of those "hours later" instances tho
mircea_popescu: yeah. possibly though rule to always put addressee name in line when sending encrypted matter may be useful nevertheless. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: well shit now someone has to build a gpg-gram adressee grepulator
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: he knows he's encrypting to x
ben_vulpes: i kid, i kid
mircea_popescu: your kids scare me.
ben_vulpes: not scary yet, can't recognize more than 80% of the alphabet or get safeties off firearms
mircea_popescu: lol
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2017/q2/danielpbarron_payment_receipt.txt
mircea_popescu: aaand in other ancient trilemas, http://trilema.com/2009/de-mogulibus/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: at least at teh time, the definitive work on romania.
trinque: lobbes: that is probably hung up in dns purgatory. my hop from namecheap to namesilo just took, and namesilo didn't slurp all the old records.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool interface btw, wouldn't you say ?
trinque: looks like deeds was the only thing that cared.
trinque: yep, I approve so far. no bullshit, very straightforward.
trinque: and can deposit btc
mircea_popescu: yea.
mircea_popescu: lol i think i deposited a btc back when it was a few hundy
deedbot: accepted: 1
mircea_popescu: lol
trinque: queues queues everywhere
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749758 << nope, though I dunno where you saw http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749761 happen ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 03:27 asciilifeform: trinque: i've wondered for some time , is the thing where your walletron throws pgpciphered matter into the greater void, as in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749739 , without the addressee's name in the line -- deliberate design choice ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 03:27 asciilifeform: often the link pops up hour or moar after the invocation, and i end up clicking, expecting traditional (i.e. plaintext) deedbot material
trinque: there's no wallet op that takes an hour
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Adeedbot+bundle << possible you're thinking of this.
trinque: pops up when a deed bundle's tx is confirmed
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749779 << but I don't oppose this, would be more convenient at no apparent cost. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 03:59 mircea_popescu: yeah. possibly though rule to always put addressee name in line when sending encrypted matter may be useful nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: yee
mircea_popescu: aaand in other basics for the learners of romanian, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vEiR6Rb92M
BingoBoingo: <mats> i keep seeing 'traumatic brain injury' in your statements, BingoBoingo << Well, got anybetter short forms for "The Boingo ISP"?
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16515.08, vol: 14391.09884846 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16616.0, vol: 64100.4744167 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16730.1, vol: 3598.77950646 | Volume-weighted last average: 16603.309971
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 498897 | Current Difficulty: 1.590896927258E12 | Next Difficulty At Block: 499967 | Next Difficulty In: 1070 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16634.0, vol: 14446.13842017 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16760.0, vol: 64436.5160404 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16664.1, vol: 3618.62275037 | Volume-weighted last average: 16733.7308386
asciilifeform: meanwhile in pinoy spamola, http://peltebesining.tk/giwe/asic-bitcoin-miner-schematic-1634.php << image-embeds asciilifeform's lispm keyboard schematic as 'asic miner' . bonus : if loaded via archive.is, gives entirely ~different~ spamola, prolly based on ip block ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ahaha
mircea_popescu: ok this is fucking epic
mircea_popescu: it redirected me to some kind of "option trading" scamsite.
asciilifeform: www.loper-os.org/pub/spamola.jpg << for posterity.
asciilifeform: ^ screenshit
asciilifeform: bottom ~half~ of the white box is the item.
asciilifeform: why htmlembedded, not copied -- is anyone's guess.
mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/67Lt4/?raw=true << mine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bw $$$. they're very sensitive to it, best way to hurt them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your snapshot is ~= what archive.is gets .
asciilifeform: they prolly have 2 buckets, 'ameritards' and 'other'
mircea_popescu: o wow check it out, this was pretty advanced (class names randomgenerated strings to fool google etc)
asciilifeform: aha, as far as these go.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform contains eg <img src="http://loper-os.nfshost.com/wp-content/mwredux/mw4_schem_small.png" />
asciilifeform: yea subj
asciilifeform: i suspect these get sucked out of google's image finder thing automagically
mircea_popescu: so basically your blog is a subdomain on nfshost.com is why no ip addressing ?
asciilifeform: if only that
asciilifeform: ( the actual domain loads the thing. the nfs domain also loads. but each gets different ip ~every hour , they have in-house 1990s-era homebrew crapflare item )
asciilifeform: could've sworn i described it here
mircea_popescu: wtf nonsense dns do these people use ? dig doesn't produce an ip ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nuts.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720008 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726101 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726112 , possibly elsewhere. ☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 03:05 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719979 << gotta appreciate this peculiar fact : asciilifeform used nfs co. service since 2007. not misprint : a decade sharp as of a few mo. ago. with ZERO MAINTENANCE and ZERO hassle and ~zero downtime and laughed at GB/s ddoses and do i have to go on ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 14:20 asciilifeform: and neither of these is a bug, or will ever be fixed, nfs co’s. ddosproofing relies on the dynamic ip shenanigans
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 14:58 asciilifeform: ( the sad thing re nfs co, is that it is in fact a kolhoz, quite like amazon's and the rest, but more ancient and built by actual men, vs 'millenial' scum, and so it actually ~works~, and delivers on the promise -- you don't own your hdd, BUT you never have to go down from a dead hdd; you own no ip; BUT no ddos; etc. it however IS STILL A KOLHOZ , with the complacency and inevitable day of doom that comes with this. )
mod6: mornin'
mircea_popescu: heya
asciilifeform: ohai mod6
mod6 waves
asciilifeform: iirc somebody here recently also subscribed to nfsco
asciilifeform: ( hanbot ? )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems very likely google images automated banditry.
mircea_popescu: yeah, thewhet's there now
asciilifeform: turns out, it knows how to eat btc, for a few yrs nao
mircea_popescu: yeh that was part of it.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-ecu/ << Trilema - The ECu
ben_vulpes: and in today's pretentions to relevance: https://www.sec.gov/news/public-statement/statement-clayton-2017-12-11
mircea_popescu is not clicking
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not missing anyffing
mircea_popescu: which, amusingly, is less than rando spammer above managed.
asciilifeform: it's a snore
asciilifeform: the pinoy earlier muchly moarinteresting
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu forgoing the opportunity to cane the sec? will wonders never cease!
ben_vulpes: they even talk about never having vetted 'crypto-' related securities!
ben_vulpes: no exchange traded anything!
mircea_popescu: eh...
asciilifeform found the pinoy on a few other domains, there's a whole system
mircea_popescu: im sure.
mircea_popescu: gotta replace teh viagra spam with something.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in 'The Internet of the Future' ( as pictured in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 ) noose : https://www.meo.pt/internet/internet-movel/telemovel/pacotes-com-telemovel << and also it lies to archive.is , so screenshit : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/plebenet.jpg
mircea_popescu: ahaha
mircea_popescu: four euro/month ?! srsly ?!
asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/uL4b5 << usg burns yet another of $infinity ssl decrypt methods, to push 'Disable RSA encryption!' ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( not, naturally, because it matters worth a shit what pseudocipher plebe uses in sslolade. but to fudspray on rsa per se. )
asciilifeform: ^ uses the 20y.o. nonconstanttimersa privkeyraper. which worx great still.
asciilifeform: ^ and oblig hanno boeck.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749788 << this is a pretty interesting item, and i suspect a very similar problem in what'll remain of usa. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 04:22 mircea_popescu: aaand in other ancient trilemas, http://trilema.com/2009/de-mogulibus/
asciilifeform: but meanwhile-er, in not-at-all-noose, asciilifeform briefly looked into the question of what-would-it-take to make a pci-e FG . found ( e.g. https://archive.is/dGtBI and elsewhere, for the curious ) that it is quite impossible to do with lattice 'ice' or any other small fpga; the complexity is bookcase-length ( supposing one could even ~get~ the req'd docs, many are not only payware but protected via disinfo-flooding )
asciilifeform: i specifically exclude devices like xilinx and altera series with ~built-in~ pcie -- these are not, properly speaking, fpga
asciilifeform: ( you wouldn't call an 'implementation' of e.g. ppc cpu that simply uses xilinx 'virtex' series' built-in ppc core, an implementation. apply same rule to pci.)
asciilifeform: ftr supposed 'fpga' with built-in periphs are simply proprietary gluetraps.
asciilifeform: any and all built-in periphs.
asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701433 and possibly elsewhere. ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 12:00 asciilifeform: 1 level below, x86/arm/pci,sata,usb, etc play same role as unix and microshit -- accumulated layer of sewage
BingoBoingo: En otra cosas: A meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning y entonces the venezualas have referred another firm, meeting to be scheduled
asciilifeform: ohai BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Hola asciilifeform
asciilifeform: how go the adventures of BingoBoingo under the southern cross ?
BingoBoingo: So far so fun. Gradually shifting from cold contacting to contacting the referred. The weather is still unbeatable, and the Brazilian stoners have departed.
BingoBoingo: The hostel is far emptier, may start filling up again later in the week.
BingoBoingo: Also, the local accent is beginning to break into discrete works as opposed to noise. The epic 2.5-3 hour AA meetings here have been an invaluable opportunity to listen to a variety of local speakers one at a time. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: La Tienda Inglesia, wonderful source of food. Local fereterias... dismal affairs.
asciilifeform: what's an orc aa meeting typically like ?
BingoBoingo: Well, they keep the opening ceremonies short, there are no time limits on speaking, and the meeting ends when everyone who wanted to speaks. Other than the lack of time pressure much more the same than different.
asciilifeform: this dun tell me anything
asciilifeform: i was asking re subj
asciilifeform: what do they speak about
BingoBoingo: Also like back home they celebrate sober birthdays with various treats. So far there have been delicious brownies and giant chocolates
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mostly the same things. Family, work, trudging the walk that is life, the programs, etc
BingoBoingo: The meeting I have been frequenting occurs in giant catholic church, Dracaena trees outside
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-498948.txt
ben_vulpes: "don't keep your files /with/ you, keep your files /in/ you!" https://www.etsy.com/listing/267826934/mature-usb-micro-sd-card-reader-butt ☟︎
asciilifeform: !#s arse safe
a111: 4 results for "arse safe", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=arse%20safe
mod6: lol "plug and play" ☟︎
shinohai: Custom orders also available.
asciilifeform: !!up nocko
deedbot: nocko voiced for 30 minutes.
danielpbarron: !~later tell trinque what's the eta on deedbot withdraw?
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
trinque: danielpbarron: hm, didn't get a printout. possibly that didn't come back up on the new drive.
trinque will run it within the hour
trinque: heh, cups was not set to start at boot, and the box's uptime was so long I never noticed
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/0BSH9/?raw=true << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes ☟︎☟︎
danielpbarron: i've been getting that too for the last day or so
deedbot: danielpbarron: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ra1Ju/?raw=true
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749913 << aha typical. ( looks like trinque uses malleus ? ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 21:48 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/0BSH9/?raw=true << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes
trinque: yep, trb node with the mighty banhammer vpatch
mod6: boom
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749875 << i imagined you'll enjoy. possibly also teh original to some reference in latest, http://trilema.com/2010/cum-am-ras-astazi/ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 16:32 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749788 << this is a pretty interesting item, and i suspect a very similar problem in what'll remain of usa.
asciilifeform: loox like post-sov-style privatizationvoucher neh
asciilifeform: i suppose this story went the same way ?
mircea_popescu: a, not at all. those existed, in the 90s.
mircea_popescu: this is straight "living wage"-ism deployed by old marginal ro orc politruk trying to get back on horse.
asciilifeform: aaaa i recall this was mentioned
mircea_popescu: just in case victoria nuland needs something to pick.
mircea_popescu: HOW exactly they do this is incomprehensible. but consider : guy who was 3rd echelon politruk under shoemaker ; guy who was too dumb / poorly connected to make anything of the 90s, resurfaces in 2010! with a "proposal" which consists of "here's this adaptation of usg-isms as i understand them".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-28#1387591 << see also q ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-01-28 12:46 asciilifeform: i do wonder, do the 'basic income' folks simply not understand the hierarchical role of money? or think that it can be magicked away? or do not, but lie about it ?
mircea_popescu: very ethnologically interesting, but WHAT the fuck makes the orcs produce these ?
mircea_popescu: it's a very similar disbelief to the "what the fuck makes epitelial cells admit ringworm?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: ie, we imagine "ringworm is a thing", independent and of itself, rather than correctly understanding "ringworm is the PRODUCT of epitelium cells, it is the long whisp remaining out of specific denials", VERY much a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697164 item. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.
asciilifeform: recall phage thread
mircea_popescu: similarily, we imagine the usg is a thing, independent and of itself, rather than correctly understanding "usg is the PRODUCT of what the orcs will believe, very much in the http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/ sense ; usg is what's left after all the items impossible as far as orcs are concerned were removed ; much like byzantium was "what's left after we eliminated everything the bulgarians wouldn't buy".
asciilifeform: ( renewed interest in phages, since '90s, because -- quite unlike synthetic antibacterial -- no meaningful resistance, the cat and mouse have been fighting for million+ yr )
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: more meaningful than mn+ years : bn+ generations.
mircea_popescu: there will never be a bn generations of humans.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: tho one could posit that single generation of whatever organism 'counts' moar post-1945. prior, most mutation was afaik accounted for by k40
asciilifeform: which is not so abundant
asciilifeform: ( and not, contrary to schoolboy notion, 'cosmic ray', very little cosmic ray reaches surface )
asciilifeform: but iirc we had this thread.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i had no fucking idea, back in 2010, what a big deal a random photograph of mailboix spam will become in not even a decade. but it IS a huge deal. consider -- that guy, who IS NOT the proponent, WROTE!!! by hand!!! ie just like http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ !! so as to stuff my mailbox with xerocopies.
mircea_popescu: why ? why would a dude too dumb to distinguish facebook from the internet do this ?
asciilifeform: gotta wonder why by hand. 'luxor centre' charged a funbux too much ?
mircea_popescu: i doubt it's that. i suspect orc simply did not know what this wordprocessor thing is.
mircea_popescu: he had a xerox in his mental space because readily available and cheap (lotta students live nearby) ; but not a wp.
asciilifeform: but compared with current wordprocessor folx, betcha d00d knew some elementary grammar, say.
mircea_popescu: he evidently didn't need a spellchecker.
mircea_popescu looks over it again lesseew
asciilifeform: reminds me, when su was a going concern, 'классическое образование' usually referred to pre-1917 gymnasium, latin, greek, etc. but apparently ~today~ folx on ru net refer to su-era school as classical.
asciilifeform: because ~same level of sinkage towards africa. ☟︎
asciilifeform: next stop -- africa proper.
mircea_popescu: Dragi concetateni, Dupa cum stiti OTV-ul are campanie de culegere de semnaturi in sprijinul legii Cojocaru in cadrul emisiunii lui Tudor Barbu : "Se intimpla acum". Am pornit din proprie initiativa o mica campanie pe Bd. Gh. Lazar pentru ca sunt blocuri turn cu multe familii pe scara desi [...]
mircea_popescu: it's clean romanian and well composed. also shockingly honest.
asciilifeform: because actual person.
mircea_popescu: likely, yes.
asciilifeform: and so i won't laugh at him simply because he eschewed buying a comp.
mircea_popescu: well, certainly in a way no redditard/hackernewstard/etc could ever be suspected.
asciilifeform: real person. and they dun make'em nomoar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am laughing at him because of many other things ; included among them that he DIDNT eschew buying comp, simply did not understand what it was.
mircea_popescu: i eschew buying fucking apple laptop. he eschews nothing.
asciilifeform: i imagine 1 simple litmus would be to learn whether d00d in the end did buy a crapple.
mircea_popescu: well, litmi as the researcher decides. but to my eyes, the simple fact that he imagines this is how democracy works as a statal matter ("dragi concetateni" is "beloved fellow citizens", ie smacking very much of "les trois glorieuses", not that he'd know) is enough.
mircea_popescu: this EXACT fellow, living in 2010, was in fact satirized in... 1880! by caragiale.
asciilifeform recalls the trilema re subj
mircea_popescu: you might greatly enjoy conu leonida fata cu reactiunea btw, ever read that one ?
asciilifeform: dun think so
mircea_popescu: the winner part for this discussion being "EFIMIȚA: Dacă n-o mai plăti niminea bir, soro, de unde or să aibă cetățenii leafă?
mircea_popescu: LEONIDA (în luptă cu somnul): Treaba statului, domnule, el ce grije are? pentru ce-l avem pe el? e datoria lui să-ngrijească să aibă oamenii lefurile la vreme..." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: https://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Conu_Leonida_fa%C8%9B%C4%83_cu_reac%C8%9Biunea < whole thing
asciilifeform puts in pipe.
mircea_popescu: (dude's idea of the progressive republic that the reactionary evil men don't let good folk build is a state where it's illegal to pay your debts. his wife inquires whence will people be paid [because evidently everyone's employed by the state, it is after all 1880s romania], and he says that's the state's fucking problem, what's it for!)
asciilifeform: iirc hanbot alluded to this item in 'shall be delivered'
mircea_popescu: this understanding is judicious : unless "the state" manages to get dosh out of india or whatever the fuck to pay living wages for people at home to be "british citizens" there ain't gonna be no fucken empire!
mircea_popescu: so to get back to mr crisan quoted above : the reason he isn't sitting atop a computer/car/hairblower/starbucks coffee cup is that he doesn't yet understand HOW such item would forward / is requisite for his notion of "a republic" == usgstan. because that is ABSOLUTELY ALL he is interested in, and will give no half a spare cycle to any other consideration, period and fuck you. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the dedication of the imperial peons is remarkable, worthy of a greater goal as it may find itself.
asciilifeform: 'just want'
mircea_popescu: but i am convinced that strictly, very and absolutely strictly the only reason why mr adrian crisan is spending his afternoon writing up that and then xeroxing it in preference of say "editing wikipedia" or "working for google" as a "moderator" is that he does not perceive how the later would deliver him more usg empire per unit effort than the former.
mircea_popescu: so he's not eschewing anything, he's just as pantsuit as the pantsuited hilarity herself.
mircea_popescu: just, he was born orc and she was born east coast hottie.
asciilifeform: ( possibly interesting that the ancients knew about the sin of 'just wanting', and hence fables about wish-granting sessions Gone Horridly Wrong etc )
mircea_popescu: it's not altogether clear to me that he wants anything for himself,
mircea_popescu: above and besides the "worker's paradise" as described in badly penned fiction of the recently literate cca 1910s.
asciilifeform: orc wants whichever paradise he conceives his orcistan as having been derailed from
asciilifeform: i dun see the 'life was so inconceivably sweet before the fr rev' d00d as so different.
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
mircea_popescu: i suspect actual item orc wants is a land where there's no smart people.
mircea_popescu: in the very strict sense of "anyone whose name you'd see in schoolbooks"
asciilifeform: no 'carnivorous' smartpeople, at any rate
mircea_popescu: he doesn't specifically care if it's 1500s german peasant life, ie, outright medieval peonage. just as long. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, no offensive jews, as discussed in the http://trilema.com/2013/the-dead-jew-and-the-raped-girl/
mircea_popescu: none of those "better than you" folk.
mircea_popescu: right, that's it. he just dun want to there be any jews. clearly unites nazi antisemitism with soviet antisemitism with etcetera. socialism, ie, dear lord protect us dumbasses from our betters.
mircea_popescu: "that's the state's job, man, to make sure!" ie, exact empire.
asciilifeform: this is mircea_popescu's passive-and-active article all over again, neh.
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: well this was a productive discussion!
asciilifeform: speaking of passive actives, asciilifeform found that FG runs ok ( it wants just 8mA @ 5v, recall ) from a https://archive.is/P9vC1 contrievance . a la 1990s serial mice. this seems useless until you look inside server and notice the convenient two rs232 headers in there.
asciilifeform: and incidentally i oughta ask the folx tuned in, whether there is demand for mass-produced mounting kit for FG-in-1U , that'd include this item + mechanical dildo for hanging from a pci slot bracket.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, in other productive discussions that never were, i expect NOT A SINGLE ONE of the various "experts" in their own mind, economists, political theorists, whatnot will actually engage http://trilema.com/2017/the-ecu/ ; much like buffett "couldn't find shorts" back in the days of http://trilema.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era-starts-today/ and just as http://trilema.com/2015/the-harry-potter-challenge/ never happe
mircea_popescu: ned for that yudkowsky character and just as so following.
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which -- bitcoin DID overperform Berkshire over the interval. by... somewhat of a margin.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: their strategy is http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-04#700916 solidly today as in 2014. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-06-04 00:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun know yet, gotta see what BingoBoingo comes up with.
mircea_popescu: conceivably might sacrifice an u per rack to fgs ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bad idea, you ~really~ dun want external cabling to these.
mircea_popescu: ah right.
mircea_popescu: antennaing
mircea_popescu: anywya, this matter to remain open.
asciilifeform: not only radiates. but makes life far too easy for the 'control vertical and horizontal' busybodies.
mircea_popescu: as to the above : these are marginal schmucks! their only chance to matter is to go be meaningful in faraway lands.
asciilifeform: mine are going into the boxes proper. q is whether it is worth turning into a catalogue item.
mircea_popescu: in other sads, fetlife profile now getting >100 pieces of mail a day. da fuck am i gonna do, assign slave to manage it ?
asciilifeform: lol they unkickbanned it ?!
mircea_popescu: hm ?
mircea_popescu: ah, different one. doh.
asciilifeform: aaa
mircea_popescu: "banning". you know.
asciilifeform: for a sec i thought they did a formal surrender.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure i'd have said something.
mircea_popescu: anyway, turns out the under-30 female crowd is nuts about baby turtles
mircea_popescu: who could have predicted, totally nao.
asciilifeform: ye olde lolcatz obsolete or wut
mircea_popescu: apparently.
asciilifeform: nuts.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "AI" consisting of hello-and-1-response is seeing > 50% success rate. can you imagine this ?
mircea_popescu: even fucking eliza had a) less success and b) more preloads.
asciilifeform: on which end this ai ?
mircea_popescu: talk about http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749955 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 23:26 asciilifeform: because ~same level of sinkage towards africa.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's ? or the females-with-turtles-emulator-service
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just a simple "hello how goes it ?" ??? | grep for a "how about you" if found feed a "great, here's turtles". works shockingly well.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it works so well i expect even idiocy a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749817 delivers. the quality of the chumps is so fucken low... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 15:42 asciilifeform: meanwhile in pinoy spamola, http://peltebesining.tk/giwe/asic-bitcoin-miner-schematic-1634.php << image-embeds asciilifeform's lispm keyboard schematic as 'asic miner' . bonus : if loaded via archive.is, gives entirely ~different~ spamola, prolly based on ip block
asciilifeform: i'm still not convinced that spamism is anything but 'fat-powered' item . likely, the chumpers dun have a hundy between them, collectively
mircea_popescu: <30yo females don't need a hundy. ☟︎
asciilifeform: also not convinced that any flesh-and-blood females ever go near 'dating site'
mircea_popescu: fetlife apparently exception.
asciilifeform: interesting.
asciilifeform wholly unequipped to even guess as to why.
mircea_popescu: it's what they do 10-20 years before beaching over on okcupid, as best as my xenomorph psychology studies dept can explain
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because youth is fundamentally transgressive as part of what it even fucking means.
asciilifeform: thing's about as transgressive as joining komsomol.
mircea_popescu: 1980s teens gotta be "that chick from that mtv video "crazy"".
mircea_popescu: and 2010s chicks gotta be on fetlife, apparently.