tmsr - Log 2018-01-14

mod6: im way behind. i've been reading through the loper-os posts, and diana_coman's blog posts... but haven't gone through 'em with fine tooth comb yet. probably will have to wait until v things are done.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770454 << amusingly i recall someone throwing fit re this years ago. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 23:47 asciilifeform: in other 'news', apparently gnuplot is not capable of labeling datapoints on a log plot.

mircea_popescu: i have nfi, ask rms. he's the champion of "gnu tools dun work, take me seriously"

asciilifeform wrapping up ch7

mircea_popescu: did your friday turn into saturday monring-evening... ?

asciilifeform: a coupla ch ago, lol

mircea_popescu: in other "i hope beyond hope there's a place under the sun for me" lulz, "That's a lot to read but the pictures were really pretty!"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/?magic=alf

asciilifeform: ooh neato!

asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu !

mircea_popescu: mah pleasure.

mircea_popescu: ever since i've been clicking it myself, all sorta gems in there.

asciilifeform: and now...

deedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2118 << Loper OS - Finite Field Arithmetic. Chapter 7: Turbo Egyptians.

asciilifeform: ^ achtung, panzers!!

asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox to snarf ch7, ty

jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

mod6: cool thx asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in high performance seals, http://78.media.tumblr.com/0bd682805858378ba7e9b6ad8d87df76/tumblr_mtchf8pvLl1r0fpsco1_400.gif

danielpbarron: !!rate esthlos 3 fg customer, met for sushi, witnessed my karaoke

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/CpoMH/?raw=true

esthlos: !!help

deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html

esthlos: !!rate danielpbarron 3 legit guy, mean karaoke skills

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/P0bq0/?raw=true

esthlos: !!v 461D1CF5D22152912FC571BF79FF098356D076F09B74F3E2F615A024C8438214

deedbot: esthlos rated danielpbarron 3 << legit guy, mean karaoke skills

trinque: what'd he sing? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i am rooting for celine dion. ☟︎

ben_vulpes: i got five on a weezy track ☟︎

ben_vulpes: esthlos: dish, what was it

jurov: BingoBoingo: what about buying existing company with bank acct and everything? it's standard practice here

mircea_popescu: jurov iirc it was briefly discussed. the risk of doing such a thing in orc (read : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-17#563333 ) is that you acquire debt you don't know about, and can't properly verify afore the fact. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2014-03-17 17:04 mircea_popescu: very dangerous to buy property in non-torens lands.

mircea_popescu: works in europe and ~nowhere else.

mircea_popescu: and in other news, there was a young man from Bombay who shagged dozens of chickens each day. he wouldn’t stop fucking 'till they all started clucking, then he’d eat all the eggs that they lay.

shinohai: LOL

knubie: lol

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-saddest-person-in-the-world/ << Trilema - The saddest person in the world.

mircea_popescu: and in other ancient trilemas, "I am going to reward your efforts, in Bitcoinii. Specifically : the best entrant will receive 10 BTC, the 2nd best will receive 3 BTC and the 3rd and 4th best 1 BTC each. Also the 7th best will receive .1337 BTC, to keep things interesting."

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was this the contest that produced 'shall be delivered' ?

mircea_popescu: nope.

asciilifeform: prolly before i tuned in , then ? ( though iirc that one was ~also~ before i tuned in )

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/#selection-83.0-89.193

asciilifeform: aa

mircea_popescu: you got first comment.

mircea_popescu: but iirc didn't bother to make 10 btc.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/#comment-92655 << check it out, paid, too!

asciilifeform: i'm not exactly photo master-artist tho.

mircea_popescu: so ?

asciilifeform: btw are the winning entries visible today somewhere ? linx are dead

mircea_popescu: bitcoin is disrupting the notion of expertiuse!

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have an offline copy, others might've kept 'em.

asciilifeform: 'it's in my tape robot' is not exactly what typically 'visible' means, lol

mircea_popescu: yeah. dunno if visible or not tbh.

mircea_popescu: i might be the only person in the history of the world that paid >100k (ie, nominally, "in excess of fifty ounces of gold" for some rando's rape.)

asciilifeform: hey, better than for that ameripizza

mircea_popescu: less banal, at any rate.

asciilifeform: ( or the other d00d's toyota-boeing )

mircea_popescu: give ameritards bitcoin, 10 years after the fact you'll have stories about remarkably expensive pizzas and bus fares.

mircea_popescu: and i guess heroin,

mircea_popescu: anyway, all this vaguely related to http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/you-created-a-treefort-hurr-560x504.png

mircea_popescu: remember back when reddit thought itself like... significant or something ? important in this world ?

asciilifeform: ooh hey that thing !

mircea_popescu: turns out ssssuperffffrank's bid didn't pan out for him

asciilifeform: the one with 'beers'

asciilifeform: !#s beers beers beers

a111: 108 results for "beers beers beers", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=beers%20beers%20beers

mircea_popescu: hm ?

mircea_popescu: oh, sushi&beer right.

asciilifeform: i gotta make a proper search, phf's is infuriatingly nonidentical to grep imho

asciilifeform: ( am i the only one who does not like this ? )

mircea_popescu: what now ?

asciilifeform: look at the output of 'beers beers beers'

asciilifeform: from where does the thing get the idea that it is at liberty to ignore the second and third word ?

asciilifeform: if i wanted to use google's turd, i'd use it

mircea_popescu: you wanted http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%27beers+beers+beers%27 ?

mircea_popescu: dude, it's plainly documented and well known : without quotes it matches all the workds ; with quotes the string

asciilifeform: aha.

mircea_popescu: use the quotes and be happy, what's so hard about this.

asciilifeform: documented where ?

mircea_popescu: i ~like~ the ability to search for stupid cocksucker and get stupid fucking cocksucker as a result.

asciilifeform rereads pete_dushenski's item

mircea_popescu: in the log!!111

asciilifeform: ( not in http://www.contravex.com/trilema-bots-directory apparently. )

asciilifeform: lolk

mircea_popescu: i even more like that i can search for stupid "sucker" and get fuck you sucking fuckstupid as well!

mircea_popescu: tbh i'd rather have grep fixed to work like phf's search. sadly no easy way to do this.

asciilifeform puts the item in his massive bound paper laboratoryjournal, next to the other supposedly-somewhere-documented-butnotreally materials.

asciilifeform: dunno, can't speak for others, but i fucking hate 'smart' tools.

asciilifeform: and dwimmism.

asciilifeform: i give a string of bytes - i want to search for THAT string of bytes. with ~maybe~, ~optionally and explicitly~, case-mutation.

mircea_popescu: these aren't bytes.

mircea_popescu: they're characters. and wordmatch is the only way to do text search.

asciilifeform: it's the wolframalpha problem -- doing a proper job is ai-complete. so attempting the job at all results in a duct tape perlism that 'works on a good day', when the wind is just-so

mircea_popescu: and force-tokenization (so "match" matches matchbox because of ") is the only way to handle tokenization in a non-"smart" non-dwim manner.

mircea_popescu: whole thing's solid.

mircea_popescu: not even vaguely. the proper job is exactly like this : textsearch with work tokenization which the user can force.

asciilifeform bbl,meat

mircea_popescu: whole fucking point of even having a language in the first place, as opposed to sino liquidshit, is that they're characters not bytestrings and i can search like in human lang.

mircea_popescu: and only reason we even use english is the minimized tokenization necessary ; for all its power romanian/latin/etc would be nothing but "stem" "stem" "Stem" till we drop dead.

mircea_popescu: which is why english amounted to more than romanian ever will.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform were you actually looking for jay aka http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-13#1466292 ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-13 04:44 mircea_popescu: Mother mother fuck, mother mother fuck fuck, mother fuck mother fuck noish noish. One, two, one two three four noish noish noish noish. Smokin weed smokin whizz doin coke drinkin beers drinkin beers beers beers. Rollin fatties, smokin blunts. Whos smokes blunts? We smoke blunts. Rollin blunts and smokin..

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> jurov iirc it was briefly discussed. the risk of doing such a thing in orc (read : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-17#563333 ) is that you acquire debt you don't know about, and can't properly verify afore the fact. << And the ask here for shelf corps starts at 3k -6k USD with that risk ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2014-03-17 17:04 mircea_popescu: very dangerous to buy property in non-torens lands.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and only reason we even use english is the minimized tokenization necessary ; for all its power romanian/latin/etc would be nothing but "stem" "stem" "Stem" till we drop dead. << And the subtle variation of how to conjugate are the barrier between latin languages. Here it is becoming clear that among the native speakers of Castellano y Portugues that there are persons who can handle more than one language and those

BingoBoingo: persons doomed to their mother's tongue alone

BingoBoingo: The walmart caste, if you will

mircea_popescu: also known as "persons who were beaten enough and persons who were permitted to ossify stupid"

BingoBoingo: AHA, here the bulk of the Brasileros parents loved them enough to beat them

BingoBoingo: Anyways this morning for ~3 hours English was the majority native tongue at the hostel. Yo, una chica de Chicago, una pareja de Australasia, y una pareja de Ireland. I had to explain that no, not all Brasilians are trilingual, just the ones with the means to travel.

mircea_popescu: heh

BingoBoingo: And that guy from Australia/girl from New Zealand, when you go to the boondocks of Brasil in 2 weeks you will no find this much of your mom's language

mircea_popescu: wait, i thought all ourdemocracy shitheads are quadrilingual.

mircea_popescu: so as not to be outdone by orcs.

BingoBoingo: Nah, solo ingles para mas diversitit. Learning other languages is cultural appropriation!

mircea_popescu: don't tell me they're just all esltards who hallucinate a "but it's ok, whole rest of world cares about our shitland ever so deeply" coda because "here is everywhere" and also because "it's easier this way" not to mention it'd make "everything alright"

BingoBoingo: They are. Well girl from Chicago does SQL for McDonalds

mircea_popescu: rare and valuable skill.

BingoBoingo: That's how she described it.

mircea_popescu: !#s sylvester

a111: 0 results for "sylvester", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=sylvester

mircea_popescu: i guess ima have to write this then.

BingoBoingo: Anyways she had been hanging around one neighborhood her whole stay until she made the wise decision to buy me lunch. "Montevideo is so expensive" "Only the tourist trap part you've limited youself to"

BingoBoingo: Y entonces I hired a car and she bought the pizza

BingoBoingo: Normally I would have walked if it wasn't for the lluvia

mircea_popescu: speasking of which, me shall proceed to steak up. laters!

BingoBoingo: Disfruta tu cena!

shinohai: I see a BingoBlog post ... "Un Domingo lluvioso"

BingoBoingo: Eh, not particularly interesting. Just got reminded how boring Anglophones are

BingoBoingo: "Sure the locals are stupid in their ways, but in old country..."

BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all

jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13439.93, vol: 7362.53009084 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13321.0, vol: 32655.05555892 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13501.0, vol: 2507.90112926 | Volume-weighted last average: 13352.2059428

shinohai: Oh look, Kraken decides to work again.