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asciilifeform: lol is the actual bot down??
BingoBoingo: Nah, I think I forgot to ping trinque that my blog rebuilt completed with success
asciilifeform: aa
BingoBoingo: Anyways, let me know if anyone or anything that should be in the sidebar is missing
Mocky: blockchain engineer is a job title now?
Mocky: "must be open sores contributor, love python 3" what's next? "line cook, must love toasters with cancel buttons" ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I miss the belt fed toaster from my first place of employment
mircea_popescu: Mocky these schmucks i swear...
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo argentine sub was diesel.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875895 << all that's left of the us pretense to an economy is government wankolade. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 22:17 Mocky: so many of the jobs out there want secret government clearance now, jeez. who do they think they are kidding with their super secret shit
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sub was diesel, but sub and reactor are both outside Argentina's maintenance ability
mircea_popescu: along with a toothpick factory.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the whole usg "clearance" wank narrowly mirrors the quatari "sponsorhip employment" wank. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875920 << in the quaint words of the virgin mary, "yes." ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 01:07 Mocky: "must be open sores contributor, love python 3" what's next? "line cook, must love toasters with cancel buttons" ☟︎
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=95 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 11/14/2018
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875118 <-- point well taken. my schedule is still a bit erratic at the moment, so what do you think about making the switch on monday (3rd dec)? I'll be tuned in starting cca 6pm utc. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 14:38 trinque: spyked: point is a simple "hey trinque, lets make the swap at $date, and get the PM subscriptions ported over meanwhile"
spyked: re pm feeds: if no one objects to this, just gpg me a list of the feeds and the recipients and I'll add them manually.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875503 <-- /me ordered a c101pa from shitazon recently, will make prime target for cuntoo testing. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 19:51 mircea_popescu shall buy a lappy just to try trinque's thing on!
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875439 <-- this has been on my mind after seeing http://trilema.com/2018/this-gns-thing/#selection-317.47-317.193 . the next immediate step in my queue after publishing rss bot vpatches will be to look at automating communication with deedbot. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 19:12 mircea_popescu: i imagine that'll be spyked's next thing, bot-driven vtrees mirror service.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875935 << last i knew , there were still a coupla open problems re actually using that box ( in particular, i did not yet succeed, and presently haven't the time to continue, in baking a bootloader for it that loads non-googlistic kernels ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 13:35 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875503 <-- /me ordered a c101pa from shitazon recently, will make prime target for cuntoo testing.
asciilifeform: iirc phf did turn his c101pa into ~some~ form of usable
asciilifeform: ( and yes google's loader ~will~ load custom kernels, but only if you sign'em with their tool, so then gotta keep whole shitchain around )
asciilifeform: spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-08#1848779 was where i stopped last. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 19:07 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-08#1848650 << update : flashing in the uboot with the dram turd from vendor fw, did nothing detectable
asciilifeform: it's a solvable, of course, problem , theoretically 100% of the iron init coad is published . but somebody would have to put in the sweat to port it into e.g. stock uboot.
asciilifeform: then and only then , c101pa will turn into an item like rk, where you can operate strictly with self-built contents
asciilifeform: presently, cuntoo won't run there (even if trinque's process can be coaxed into building arm64 bins) cuz it has no way of blessing the kernel. ☟︎
asciilifeform: spyked: if you're interested in arm64ifying cuntoo, i recommend to begin with rk.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875930 << hilariously, i recently tried to run a simple numeric proggy on a box infested with python3 , and found that it utterly breaks the numeric stack : once you do e.g. x = x / 3 you can no longer e.g. x >> 1 -- because the / converted it to 'float' ! holy mother of fuck. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 06:10 a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 01:07 Mocky: "must be open sores contributor, love python 3" what's next? "line cook, must love toasters with cancel buttons"
asciilifeform: presumably they've introduced some new demented syntax for integer divides ? i have nfi, and could not be arsed to find out.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875928 << it does indeed ; usg ministry of whateverthefuck in fact charges corp 20-30k $ for the privilege of having a new d00d pierced into secre-pederasty ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 06:09 mircea_popescu: incidentally, the whole usg "clearance" wank narrowly mirrors the quatari "sponsorhip employment" wank.
asciilifeform: ( and iirc, the cost is in fact ~open-ended~, and is proportionate to how many hours the pinkertons actually feel like sinking into particular d00d ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: traditionally, folx who show symptoms of being able to survive outside of the reich, disqualified.
Mocky: looks like Roger Ver's bitcoin.com is looking for java and js developers for their mining team http://archive.is/MlomS ☟︎
Mocky: "74 applicants last week" heh
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-20#1873779 << see also ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-20 03:38 mircea_popescu: i have nfi, it's pretty fucking lulzy though. i mean, there's a long list of these defeateds by "fate", but he's one of the most hysterically humiliated humbugs.
asciilifeform: apparently at least 4 still-not-gone-for-glue horses in usg's stable ( gavin, buterin, wright, ver )
Mocky: so many damn recruiters. they're like mosquitos in a swamp. they all want to 'have a call' and then 'a skype' 'see if you'll be a good fit'. ugh. two years out of college with a degree in hr, you're gonna decide if i'm worthy to be submitted for a job, and then pressure me to take low ball offer. ☟︎
Mocky: this is why i worked for the same company for 14 years, i hate this shit. but also what made me soft target for their betrayal ☟︎
Mocky: i'm convinced this whole ecosystem of outside recruiters is 100% byproduct of startup "investing" that props up the illusion of "high growth" companies that burn thru cash by hiring people so they will qualify for more money ☟︎
asciilifeform 100% in agreement with Mocky , saecular work suxx
Mocky: the only activity in life that makes me understand why people turn to the bottle
asciilifeform: Mocky: i've even worked in a salt mine where the bottle was Officially (i shit thee not) issued, erry friday at noon. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'happy time'
Mocky: lol
asciilifeform: srsly there was a bar, of sorts, built in, on the grounds
asciilifeform: ( same people where http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875901 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 22:46 asciilifeform: ( d00d had pretty good gig: opened safe in the morning, closed in evening, and played 'wow' all day... )
Mocky: reminds me of "20% time", "work on your own projects on friday since we know you'll be doing that anyway"
asciilifeform: afaik this went away with the 1st 'dotcom' hysteria
Mocky: haven't seen it with my own eyes, even then
asciilifeform: ( and only even existed on paper in west coast sv shitholes; where stipulation was 'IF you've shat out your quota before friday', which typically is approx as likely as in gulag in 1950 )
Mocky: I interviewed with a job once that offered "unlimited paid time off" but inside reports were that anyone who tried to use was instantly on the shit list
asciilifeform: it's unfortunate that mircea_popescu is asleep right nao, otherwise he could tell us about how we're idjits and how working for living is for lusers, and how troo hero can run on sunlight and do as he pleases ☟︎
Mocky: in truth i do feel like idjit for being old man without the brains to have saved anything. i don't even have a workshop full of shit like asciilifeform ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: Mocky: as mircea_popescu is fond of pointing out, workshop is very much 2edged sword
asciilifeform: arguably it is better to be '100% theoretical' and have 'workshop' that fits in briefcase, as e.g. phf does
BingoBoingo: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/-como-estan-hoy-los-precios-para-alquilar-en-la-temporada-de-verano--2018101920160 << Argentina's pesos falls, but the attempted controlled descent taking Uruguay's peso down is "The dollar strengthening"
asciilifeform: Mocky: to a 1st approximation, 'saving' in the reich dun actually work, see e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-23#1843888 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666161 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-29#1574483 , elsewhere. ☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-23 17:37 asciilifeform: and indeed usgulag is powered by not only printing press but confiscating savings from ~randomly-picked engineers, little-league 'ceo', etc . a la mr stack.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-05 19:09 asciilifeform: it is interesting how phrase 'life savings' already has an archaic 'patina coat' -- same flavour as 'workhouse', 'savings & loan', 'joint stock'
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 02:36 asciilifeform: there was iirc something about how an economic landscape stable enough for 'savings' is an ephemeral and quite unnatural thing, rather like billiard table
asciilifeform: it dun even matter so much what the supposed 'savings' are denominated in -- eventually you're out of work and they get wiped.
asciilifeform: reich is set up to ensure that this happens with clockwork regularity to ~erry worker bee.
asciilifeform: ( another great way to lose shirt is 'start company , try to sell useful product ' , a+++ worxxx )
asciilifeform: some folx get to the bottle after 20yrs in workschwitz and cowardice, some after 1,2,3,4 attempts to break out, end result same
asciilifeform: and (at least in asciilifeform's observation) the competent engineer types get to bottle ~sooner~ than the chair warmers. ☟︎
Mocky: i can't even complain, i ended up with exactly what I wanted as a 20yo, "write software, have a lot of kids"
Mocky: as long as I still had kids at home, never tried to get out
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875956 << in similar news, there's a gautier, mississippi. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 16:17 Mocky: looks like Roger Ver's bitcoin.com is looking for java and js developers for their mining team http://archive.is/MlomS
asciilifeform: oh hey guten tag mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: hola.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875954 << whole shitshow runs like that, "open ended", to make the most of "moneyed". i recall back when i was looking at shooting lawsky imbecile in the head, had brief discussion with "legitimate" new york "detective agency". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 15:07 asciilifeform: ( and iirc, the cost is in fact ~open-ended~, and is proportionate to how many hours the pinkertons actually feel like sinking into particular d00d )
mircea_popescu: was pretty lulzy, typical-to-TV-altreality new york "contractor", "well... we'll have to put 8 men on it in three shifts... that's 54876983769287563984798634... and then..."
mircea_popescu: i was like... lolok.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875962 <<< was even dood here for a while, did ~jack shit but loudly for a year or so. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 16:42 Mocky: so many damn recruiters. they're like mosquitos in a swamp. they all want to 'have a call' and then 'a skype' 'see if you'll be a good fit'. ugh. two years out of college with a degree in hr, you're gonna decide if i'm worthy to be submitted for a job, and then pressure me to take low ball offer.
mircea_popescu: the problem with a country consisting of doing-other-people's-laundry expects is that... well...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875963 << speaking softly ~withouy~ carrying a big stick is a very poor strategy. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 16:43 Mocky: this is why i worked for the same company for 14 years, i hate this shit. but also what made me soft target for their betrayal
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875964 << quite exactly. you ever read http://trilema.com/2015/you-know-what-gets-no-airplay-unflattering-truth/ ? there's a complex GRP-like system that folded the us economy, and yes the red hot core was mis"investing". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 16:48 Mocky: i'm convinced this whole ecosystem of outside recruiters is 100% byproduct of startup "investing" that props up the illusion of "high growth" companies that burn thru cash by hiring people so they will qualify for more money
mircea_popescu: led to the usual symptoms of imperial decay -- monetization of real estate (a bad idea throughout, even if it repatriated the money japs made selling toyotas/sinking detroit in the 70s -- sorta like arsenic is bad for you even if it "keeps syphilis inactive" and so on) ; the star model driving and being driven by the fashion cycle, and so the fuck on. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (grp, glucose-regulated protein, "chaperones" in microbiology)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875967 <<< most of wall street works like this, actually. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 17:00 asciilifeform: Mocky: i've even worked in a salt mine where the bottle was Officially (i shit thee not) issued, erry friday at noon.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by my reckoning, ~90% of the software worx in usa ( just about all of remainder being -- direct usgisms )
asciilifeform: fit this description, that is
mircea_popescu: i meant re the bottle. your "boss" will take you "partying" at approved venues etc.
asciilifeform: 'we are hiring developers' 'why' 'we got 100m series a'
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: iirc in e.g. jp you can't even work (if yer a d00d) if ya dun drink
asciilifeform: and makes sense that 'partying at approved place', otherwise grunt could party at who-knows, maybe run mouth..
asciilifeform: ( 100% iron reich logic )
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: esp the sort of scum they hire.
asciilifeform: they hire 'the scum we have, not the scum we wish we had'(tm)
mircea_popescu: the work-on-wallstreet is rather visible a collegiate track, sorta like "nigger".
mircea_popescu: back in the days of pam grier's youth, her brother going "i'm black. i don't dance. i don't athlete. i don't sing. wtf should i do ?!" was kind-of a joke. now though...
asciilifeform for most part innocent of that racket, has nuffin to add re subj
asciilifeform: those folx do occasionally pay for software to be written, but the work (perhaps deservingly) is ranked as janitorial and paid accordingly (esp. given where the grunts are to live)
mircea_popescu: considering the shit they get...
mircea_popescu: iirc i reviewed a typical example.
asciilifeform: i have nfi what they get, for all i know 'wall street' is 100% microshit-excel powered even now.
mircea_popescu: let me dig it up.
asciilifeform: ( is there a prb plugin for excel yet ?1 )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085-we-dont-use-excel/#selection-77.0-81.426 << standard of wall street software.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in totally unrelated news, https://dod.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography-View/Article/1281505/ellen-m-lord/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do they do now, cross jews and hares ?!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875978 << fuck sunlight, i spent hours in the tropically warm bay waters slutwrestling, i am so burned i'm peeling. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 17:08 asciilifeform: it's unfortunate that mircea_popescu is asleep right nao, otherwise he could tell us about how we're idjits and how working for living is for lusers, and how troo hero can run on sunlight and do as he pleases
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875979 << and you're quite right to feel that way. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 17:10 Mocky: in truth i do feel like idjit for being old man without the brains to have saved anything. i don't even have a workshop full of shit like asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: ahahaa argentine peso 37 to the dollar. fucktards.
mircea_popescu: and i bet you they're STILL going around pretending.
mircea_popescu: "oh, dollar '''strengthened''', this building's value DOUBLED TO MATCH brekekekekekeke"
BingoBoingo: It takes more than 37 argentine pesos to get a dollar on this side of the river
mircea_popescu: im sure.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1876036 << sounds like asciilifeform would last 10min in mircea_popescustan. asciilifeform burns to crisp on 39th parallel , in ~20m ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 18:15 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875978 << fuck sunlight, i spent hours in the tropically warm bay waters slutwrestling, i am so burned i'm peeling.
asciilifeform: ( on at least 1 occasion, even in winter )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1876034 >> '... degree in chemistry from the University of ...' << tovarasul elena ceausescu !111 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 18:12 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in totally unrelated news, https://dod.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography-View/Article/1281505/ellen-m-lord/
Mocky: I got my first "so burned i'm peeling" in 2018, 3 hours on motorcycle in tank top mid day, late june.
asciilifeform: in unrelated lulz, $ wc -l libffa/* >> 3930 , $ wc -l ffacalc/* >> 1184 ; and story not even finished yet. ( tho ch1's 'RSA occupies around 3000 lines, incl. comments' was not a lie, it's exactly what the minimal rsa of ch9 weighs... )
asciilifeform: perhaps fyootoor folx will find ways to cut sumthing.
asciilifeform: ( for comparison: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680705 ; or, current trb is ~22k loc, ~not~ incl. the dep balls ) ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 03:49 asciilifeform: i just counted gpg 1.4.10 : 156,436 loc -- and that ain't counting the autoconf liquishit, or the libs it pulls in
asciilifeform: ( ffa has 0 deps outside of gnat itself and system character i/o, currently posix's )
asciilifeform: 1 of the reasons i wrote the series with the 'and here we have egypt', 'and now we remove egypt', etc. is specifically to show 'well you can cut 1000 ln here if you're ok with 500x longer run times' , i can picture applications where one might want this
asciilifeform: ( and on the other end of the digestive tract -- inlining. i'ma quite certainly issue a v-branch that removes inlining, on microcontroller it typically wins 0 , while making 100x bulkier bin )
asciilifeform: ideally, at some point we actually get that 8192-bit ALU chip, and whole thing can be... 0 ln
asciilifeform: !#s best machine is no machine
a111: 9 results for "best machine is no machine", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=best%20machine%20is%20no%20machine
asciilifeform: ^ see also.
asciilifeform: ( specifically http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1866192 thrd ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-25 19:15 asciilifeform: at the risk of repeating ancient thread -- 'the best machine is no machine', it weighs nuffin, needs no maintenance. and the best proggy, is no proggy at all, if a problem can be solved without writing proggy, it ought to be. erry line of coad can be rightfully pictured as an act of intellectual littering. y'know, like throwing cig butt or bottle on the ground in the park.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, and the loc is not the whole story either; I'd much rather read *your* 1000 loc than Koch's 100 loc ☟︎
asciilifeform: why ty diana_coman
diana_coman: although ofc it's more like Koch's 1mn loc ~always
diana_coman just ate ffa 3, will sign
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform: on other front, phf : on occasion of the most recent bolix thread , i went and looked again at the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771955 artifact ; it is interesting that they provided 128 iron types, incl. bignum, but not a 'bignum of fixed N words'. i guess in '80s ~nobody was thinking of crypto at all. ( and i was prolly unduly pessimistic to the orig finder of $item, it is prolly 95% of what's needed for cycle-accurate clone. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 20:04 fromloper: asciilifeform: someone uploaded "I-Machine Architecture Specification" to Bitsavers three days ago, I thought you might find it interesting: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/symbolics/I_Machine/I-Machine%20Architecture%20Specification.pdf
asciilifeform: the tricky bit is that remaining 5% -- ops introduced since that draft, loadable microcode, init logic, etc )
asciilifeform: err, 64
asciilifeform: types.
asciilifeform: aanyways.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: nitpicks / spiffy karnaugh simplifications / etc. welcome as always.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, the only thing re ch3 that I keep circling because not entirely clear why so is the "overflow in means *or* on word"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: btw you may find it entertaining that i found several vers of the carry & borrow eqns in my orig notes -- including yours. but for some reason i originally rejected that variant because it needed 2 accesses to the result D . but i neglected to write down why, possibly was simple brain fluke.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to link to line ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch3_shifts.kv#L462
diana_coman: i.e. if one shifts right by 2 bits but provides an overflow of 8 bits than 6 of them get simply or-ed, it's not like they get pushed in
asciilifeform: diana_coman: how would a shift by 2 provide overflow of 8 ?
diana_coman: it doesn't provide it, no
asciilifeform: you mean, what if one were to feed it one when cascading ?
diana_coman: yes, feed it one, whether cascading or not; the point is: what is the meaning of overflow in exactly for a shift op? ☟︎
asciilifeform: it will produce garbage, yes. i considered to make OF_in a limited type, but it would slow down the place where the item is actually used, substantially ( ada does not offer a fast bit-count-on-word operation )
asciilifeform: observe that the operators of fz_shifts are not exported in ffa.ads ( ch11 unified api ) , they are strictly for internal use in the lib.
asciilifeform: this is one of the reasons why.
diana_coman: aha; imho this sort of thing would be great added to the comments there
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma absolutely add it to comment and discuss in ch14 mail bag.
diana_coman: thank you!
asciilifeform: and this is prolly not the only instance of the item. ( i discussed it briefly in ch11 , in the section where preconditions -- ended up moving many preconditions to the exported wrappers, they slow things down quite substantially when present on inner-looped invocations, as they prevent (for obv reason) inliner )
asciilifeform: idea being , exported routines ( current set is shown in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch13/ffa__ads.htm ) are to be 'safe on all electrically possible inputs' , with the exception of div0 (user is commanded to test for div0, as example in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch13/ffa_calc__adb.htm#172_17 )
asciilifeform: but the same guarantee cannot be given for erry internal component, not without geological runtime.
asciilifeform: i'ma add commentary/warnings when diana_coman et al point out good additional places where; but no one should live with expectation that ~all~ possible ways to break ffa by monkeying with internals, will be listed
asciilifeform: ( the only guarantee i can offer in good conscience is that nuffin can be broken by operating the ~external~ controls -- but even there user is required to see whether his cpu has barrel shifter (see ch13 discussion) , constant-time mul ( see ch9 discussion ) )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's not about exhaustive list of ways-to-break, certainly not
asciilifeform: right
asciilifeform: and in principle i'm not averse to adding detail to comments. ( this is exactly the reason why comments exist -- show what is not necessarily evident from the coad )
asciilifeform: incidentally even the currently given 'external api' is eventually to be 'internalized', in the sense that user input is expected to be in P-code (presently named as 'ffacalc') and output ditto
asciilifeform: i.e. one will call, roughly, P(pcodestring, ffawidth, ffaheight, maxsteps) and get output.
asciilifeform: (this is, for most part, already what cmdline does. aside from 'maxsteps' not having yet been introduced Officially, cuz no loops yet)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma also note, _O_I is used strictly in fz_mod : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch13/fz_divis__adb.htm#83_14 ; prolly oughta be inlined ~there~ and abolished as a global (even internally) function.
asciilifeform: 'best rake is no rake'
asciilifeform: at 1 time, was used in the constant entry ( nibble inserter ) routine, then the latter was replaced with rewritten http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch13/fz_io__adb.htm#29_14 , nao sole remaining use is in the knuth divider.
asciilifeform: orig was writing from pov of 'most general possible set of subcomponents' , but this is not necessarily what is wanted in the end product, esp. from loc-cut pov.
diana_coman: that's fine, note that my feedback is given as I read them so without actual knowledge of what happens later/where exactly they are used
asciilifeform: my current aim is that in ch22 ( see also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2735 ) any subcomponents not used, are to be cut; and any that have strictly 1 invocation, are to be made sub-functions and remain visible solely in the scope where used.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is a+++ good, it is exactly how it is meant to be read
asciilifeform: anyffing that dun make immediate sense in ~that~ light oughta be either changed or commented.
asciilifeform: on 2nd pass of log, noticed that i did not answr http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1876084 : answr is, it is for shifting ~into~ a FZ . ( if this wasn't clear from thread ) ftr. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 19:30 diana_coman: yes, feed it one, whether cascading or not; the point is: what is the meaning of overflow in exactly for a shift op?
diana_coman: aha, that was my understanding of it
asciilifeform: right. ( and as presently stands, i've abolished all but 1 of the algos where this actually takes place )
asciilifeform bbl,teatime
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, to whom does trb noad 69.197.146.42 belong ?? it's been wedged for year+
asciilifeform: !#s 69.197.146.42
a111: 1 result for "69.197.146.42", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=69.197.146.42
asciilifeform: srsly, whoever's poor neglected box this is -- fucking put in 'aggression' or pull the plug, thing is eating mains current to no useful end
asciilifeform can't even count nao how many time had convo, 'hulp! my noad is hanging' 'didja aggression' 'no...' '...'
asciilifeform: ( observe -- sans agression, the moar reliable is your hosting, the ~more~ certain your noad is to get perma-wedged, as it'll never reboot and never satisfy shitoshi's 'catch up only on cold boot' idjit condition.. ) ☟︎
lobbes: asciilifeform: heh that's my trb box. funny thing is, I -do- have aggression on that one >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834350 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 00:16 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816438 << in other news, you were not kidding! my trb (hdd + aggression) has moved a mere 20K blocks in one month
lobbes: however, I have not yet tried timer patch on that one yet
lobbes really needs to get hands into that thing and feel around ☟︎