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diana_coman: myeah, I know; I admit that one hand I really didn't believe anyone was so dedicated to my chan and on the other hand I also did not quite
grok the extent of disconnect that people can somehow live with.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 00:45:31 lobbes: I'm probably the only one who hasn't, and I'd like to keep it that way (and while *I*
grok that it is really the state that is the enemy here, she wouldn't necessarily). I'd like to let her die thinking *someone* gives a shit about her.
lobbes: I'm probably the only one who hasn't, and I'd like to keep it that way (and while *I*
grok that it is really the state that is the enemy here, she wouldn't necessarily). I'd like to let her die thinking *someone* gives a shit about her.
bvt: 2. by tty model of linux, you don't pull data using tty driver, the driver pushes the data though several abstraction layers. i would have
grok this stuff as well. there is at least one other driver that needs this functionality (for connecting a screenreader to a tty), so i can figure out stuff by looking at what it does.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 11:03:43 diana_coman: asciilifeform: actions seem to show in logger as text said rather than in any way different; is that intended? I don't quite
grok what's the thing with *nick then?
diana_coman: tbh I also don't quite
grok what's the status re irc as there was the plan to move and so on
diana_coman: I suppose I don't
grok what the equivalent of the heliocentric system is here, precisely.
whaack: trinque: i can't say i fully
grok the advice, perhaps in part because i can't readily read the linked manual, and bc the advice seems to suggest staying in reich, which directly contradicts the usual guidance given here
diana_coman: yes, but I'm still trying to
grok if it's ...worth it; lol, my problems.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: as a sort of tmsr.ro ? or what would the difference be exactly as I don't quite
grok in what way a "political party" is not already included in tmsr as it were
spyked needs to
grok this for a bit. otoh, finds the experiment worthwhile, but a. has 0 exp with politics (other than following to some degree the local affairs) and b. doesn't know how would the battle on two fronts (i.e. the social-democrats and the xtian socialists) would work strategically
phf: well, i appreciated it in theory, didn't have enough active drive to
grok it, nor the necessary background
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 16:55 mircea_popescu: douchebag looky, the place's not for you. you're not smart enough to be here. what's so hard to
grok about this ? some people are smart, some people aren't smart, you're not smart. what, you have to be dragged out, your legs don't work, what is it ?
phf: i
grok the reasoning, but there are two issues: as of right now nobody's mounting to nfs, but at least in my stack tmp is not always as secure as other places i might be pressing, and the patch doesn't respect the environment TMP/TMPDIR convention.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 16:55 mircea_popescu: douchebag looky, the place's not for you. you're not smart enough to be here. what's so hard to
grok about this ? some people are smart, some people aren't smart, you're not smart. what, you have to be dragged out, your legs don't work, what is it ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: I actually do read the logs, but -- again, I wish I had more time to really
grok the logs. Instead of just snarf them and move on to the next thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 16:55 mircea_popescu: douchebag looky, the place's not for you. you're not smart enough to be here. what's so hard to
grok about this ? some people are smart, some people aren't smart, you're not smart. what, you have to be dragged out, your legs don't work, what is it ?
mircea_popescu: phf i have nfi what you're doing. this is what this opening of the pandora box is all about, trying to
grok it once.
mircea_popescu: douchebag looky, the place's not for you. you're not smart enough to be here. what's so hard to
grok about this ? some people are smart, some people aren't smart, you're not smart. what, you have to be dragged out, your legs don't work, what is it ?
☟︎☟︎☟︎ lobbes: Sure. Best case as I see it is: mebbe d00d reads in silence for couple years, then, once not-20-years-old and able to
grok, comes back and does productive things. Probably won't happen, but ya never know.
lobbes: Hell, I came in and started reading logs in mid 2014. Took me damn near 2 years to
grok what I was reading and finally produce something useful
lobbes: I'm truly beginning to
grok that these days
mod6: i've been thinking about the manifest thing for a while... and I'm not sure about it... seems like it'd get hairy. and would require versioning in and of itself. however, if we had a sample to look at, might be easier for me to
grok.
phf: i
grok that point; the things are simply not there. i've barely arrived to where i have a working replacement for what we already have on top of which further work can be built. i guess the only reason this one is contentious is because it would've worked better if done upfront.
mircea_popescu: "you can only talk to orc in barbar" problem was traditionally resolved through "extrateritoriality", ie make a base and shoot the orcs that fail to
grok what perimeter means.
mircea_popescu: and that "good enough"... anyone reading through teh discussion of gpg in eucrypt comments, or in channel for that matter can readily
grok just how fucking uselessly broken gpg is. yet "good enough" for everyone else.
phf: i don't
grok the first homework: do you mean produce random computations, and programmatically verify ffa against them?
mircea_popescu: ReadErr that's the idea. ircbot is in lips ; if you dont'
grok that there's also supybot which iirc is python
phf: i took a little break to put it into CWEB so i can print it and read it (cutting process was mostly mechanic, so now i need to actually
grok some of the things it does), but that turned out to be a pita
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:13 phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce their presence for me. "oh jwz is talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able to
grok the difference.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:35 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741176 << i don't need to consider that, i
grok metacircularity, i.e. there's no such thing as builtin symbols. bytecode or not is lateral to that point.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 21:08 rothbart: I've been trying to
grok the segwit "theft" incentive - as the bounty grows, so does the PoW defending it - doesn't this keep the segwit outputs safe?
mircea_popescu: it can. hence, for instance, no roads here cross. they loop. dja even
grok on your own what i fucking mean by this ?
lobbes: I've always admired the 'keep data and code as separate as possible' approach you take trinque. From what I can
grok, that is
lobbes: powerful tool, I'm finally starting to
grok mircea_popescu: i suppose its hard for a jew to
grok the wordcount point.
mod6: ANNND. hopefully will
grok moar as well.
mod6: mainly, I read through them. because, there's still a lot for me to
grok here. and it's easy to fool oneself into groking if you treat it like a blackbox instead of actually reading the code.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-18 11:39 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-17#1715334 << i don't
grok this populist sentiment coming from you of all people. su was hardly rwanda in terms of "1st gen in shoes" and the bulk of those "flew into space" people were pulled from gulags
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-17#1715334 << i don't
grok this populist sentiment coming from you of all people. su was hardly rwanda in terms of "1st gen in shoes" and the bulk of those "flew into space" people were pulled from gulags
☝︎☟︎ rothbart: I've been trying to
grok the segwit "theft" incentive - as the bounty grows, so does the PoW defending it - doesn't this keep the segwit outputs safe?
☟︎ phf: i don't think he can even
grok the shape of the criticism
mod6: Indeed, this is by design. But to ensure that I
grok /exactly/ what it's doing, I am compelled to do by hand.
mod6: i think it's highly interesting, but indeed, there's a lot of depth. sometimes takes a while to
grok the threads. that's my own personal take. getting old, not for me anyway.
mircea_popescu: and this isn't even getting into the whole layer of "i make a webcomic about shit i don't
grok" "famous" retardation
sina: I did look at the learning tournament blog previously but I couldn't really
grok it
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6, phf , et al -- see if you grasp how the thing worx. << will continue to try to
grok this thing.
mod6: so, there might be some optimization to be done (perhaps?) once we all
grok the implementation.
lobbes starting to
grok how bone-fide slavery is actually the 'more humane' model
sina: haha yeah, here "down under" is literally burned into the subconcious to mean "Australia" so we don't
grok the phrase the same way
sina: sorry I don't
grok that syntax diff
Framedragger: attempting to
grok "causal structure" of "modern web" is recipe for madness, best to avoid!..
pete_dushenski: no one offered you (or me) coins at $0.10. i caught wind at $0.90 but was too young and naive to
grok. thought btc was paypal alternative.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is the hardest thing to
grok for the drones. but anyways.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dude dun quite
grok hwo this shit works, does he.
trinque: all the more terrible and uninviting a universe if there aren't elsewhere salt water sacks whose symbols we could hope to
grok?
mircea_popescu: the attempt to understand another's excel pile is not unliuke trying to
grok the intended functioning of the preferred emacs setup of a rabid squirrel.
phf: right, so you
grok the method
mircea_popescu: this is periodically discussed in the logs, but i suppose pretty out there to
grok.
mircea_popescu: maybe they simply did not
grok they had item you wanted, it happens.
phf: i've not used it from a cellphone though, i don't
grok the whole concept of a shell on a device without keyboard
a111: Logged on 2017-02-05 05:18 phf: i don't
grok job offers that specify language, but not task. "my employer is looking for a couple of pistoleros"
phf: i don't
grok job offers that specify language, but not task. "my employer is looking for a couple of pistoleros"
☟︎ phf: i can kind of
grok how my bethesda, maryland acquaintances didn't see it coming, but you live next door to blue collars, and you can't see it?
davout: please be more explicit, i fail to
grok phf: i don't
grok referencing encyclopedias in general. if i don't know what "dog" is, i can probably source it myself
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski fortunately nobody gives a flying fuck what esl speakers say on any topic. this is very deeply difficult for the selfsame esltards to
grok, but it DOES explain why trilema is more widely read than nytimes.
ben_vulpes: did you ever
grok what i said about kill -9?
mod6: ok. i didn't
grok your sentence above.
mod6: asciilifeform: im having a hard time following you. let's try to keep this to something i can
grok.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you
grok the basics. which is understandable - nobody does.
mod6: i beleive that mentally, when you read a rating, you
grok this text on some level, which invokes some type of response. i can be ignored, sure, but it happened never the less.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575841 << yes, but this is not really what's discussed here. obviously when you
grok something you
grok something. but in order to get yourserlf to where you
grok something, you invariably have to do something "out of character". there has to be some pressure. "and at that moment x was enlightened" specifically says "x abused himself to the point of", but nobody wants to notice.
☝︎ phf: trinque: all voracious learners i know eventually hit the point, where acquiring knowledge/skill requires significant amount of self abuse. the kind of abuse in question is the actual, physical pain that you experience in your head, when for example trying to
grok math analysis. only people who never experienced that are jacks of all trades who bail before that point (or mythical genuises who never hit their limits before death, i know
mircea_popescu: actually from what i can
grok from that piece, the proposed solution (dump unexec, move on to saving elisp stack) is actually an improv meent
phf: now i
grok where you got your airs from, you're a ct person, that explains it :p
thestringpuller: I have...i'll just write something up based on Ken Sheriff's stuff and then see if I can
grok alf-ie
mircea_popescu: trinque he has a serious issue with things that i don't yet fully
grok, but i can not presently distinguish from this irrational meltdown and the irrational meltdown on the gossipd spec.
BingoBoingo: Anyways it's been a while since a scammer got any attention for backing a coin with a physical substance and that was urea coin tard guy who didn't
grok that urea is renewable. In continuing with the wHorticulture theme someone ought to start a Perlite coin.
PeterL: I
grok it much more now than before task
BingoBoingo: Well its the blub thing. They don't
grok the more srs bsns.