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asciilifeform: MKULTRA2 has quit << lol!
asciilifeform: in other sads, it turns out that paul g. comba ( of comba's multiplication algo ) died in april. ☟︎
asciilifeform: astronomer.
mircea_popescu: sucks
asciilifeform sat with notebook on the grass near usg capitol, good weather, and was aaalmost getting somewhere in re fixed-time karatsuba, when suddenly massive RUSSIA OUT OF UKRAINE!1111 troop of 'protesters', drums, правый сектор ( ukronazi!111 ) flagz, etc, etc , marched past.
asciilifeform: mega-lol
asciilifeform: then same scenario, and interrupted by falun gong priest.
asciilifeform: probably not best place for mathematics.
asciilifeform: perhaps more interestingly, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ohnoezterrorists.jpg
asciilifeform: ^ all entrances to various usg ministries now have these. as of no more than 2-3 wks ago.
phf: tactical concrete deterrent клумба
asciilifeform: aha!
shinohai: !!up MKULTRA2
deedbot: MKULTRA2 voiced for 30 minutes.
MKULTRA2: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24321768
mircea_popescu: they're disguising the bollards as planets ? such subtle.
mircea_popescu: planters*
asciilifeform: no, the funny bit is that this is old, circa 9/11, but they used to line the perimeter sidewalk
asciilifeform: but this is apparently No Longer Enough
mircea_popescu: masturbation never is.
asciilifeform: 'what if TWO trucks!'
mircea_popescu: lol wtf is this "pay homeless dude to smoke my totally novel bomb idea!!" nonsense.
asciilifeform: for extra lulz, these were around fdr-era monstrosities, with metre-thick walls, iron gates.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's that entire graceless "neogreek" ustardian thing.
asciilifeform: aha them
mircea_popescu: they look like the temple of Boring.
asciilifeform: exactly what they are.
mircea_popescu: i guess huh.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what one'd have to think, comparing the very elegant late 1800s items, often found on same street as the humongously ugly 1930, and not weep.
mircea_popescu: "genius of american people" indeed.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, per-tx fee to ensure next-block is now ~3 bucks.
mircea_popescu: this is for the single address payment, 1/4 kb sort of item.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/doj_survive.jpg << my personal favourite lulwall. ( same bldg as previous shot )
mircea_popescu: and the reason of course is bullshit 0 fee nonsense like 79910ccfde98875181b1abfec727fd0c19eb13cf1cd60bf0134c45f92278ed90 being mined.
mircea_popescu: serioujsly, no need for any fee for 25kb of crapolade ? hurr.
asciilifeform: betcha it's one of the ones where idiot paid via visa
asciilifeform: for 'accelerated tx mine'
mircea_popescu: yeah yeah, im sure.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: leaking ip
mircea_popescu: eh, this was an entirely novel behaviour. apparently, i "disconnected" except not, and then i "reconnected" except not.
asciilifeform: yeah, never seen this prior
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea why freenode feels the need to go to the inept lengths of all this, OBVIOUSLY they leak all ips to usg. what the fuck is writing extra state in the machine gonna do exactly.
mircea_popescu: "oh, parallel construction". really ? why, because someone's gonna believe this that wouldn't have believed anything else anyway ?
asciilifeform: well obviously to leak to randos. so that mircea_popescu can be busied with mopping their guts off the wall
mircea_popescu: dorks bored at work in teh temple of boring.
mircea_popescu: ~nobody cares one way or the other.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is the hardest thing to grok for the drones. but anyways.
mod6: Here's the third entropy collection from FG #5: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg5.ent_run3.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg5.dieharder_run3.txt
asciilifeform: ohai mod6
asciilifeform: neato
mircea_popescu: in other forgotten medicine details :
mircea_popescu: in the 19th century, childbirth was a lot more difficult an affair than these days. for one thing, there was no epidural. for another thing, none of this c-section bs ; most people didn't even do it. for the third, most women delivered assisted by an older woman without a doctor present. and so following.
mircea_popescu: an important item of child delivery in more diffcult cases was the forceps. the forceps is an adapted medieval torture instrument, and it looks it. most women feared it like the hangman;s noose, and for good reason -- it often delivered the same results.
mircea_popescu: this thing was disinfected. they did not use autoclaves. they burned it.
mircea_popescu: the operation of burning the instruments was always done in view of the patient. this because the doctors had noticed that in a 10-15% of cases, the sight alone produced delivery, and they weren't gonna fucking argue with anything that avoided the usage of the thing that left you know, scars on the baby sometimes carried into adulthood, not to mention dead mothers everywhere.
asciilifeform: iirc the original obstetric forceps was a 1600s item, and somewhat different purpose from current : was meant to take out ~in pieces~ ( in event of 'guess what, hole is too small', strictly as alternative to becoming one of those corpse-in-a-corpse lulz-for-archaeologists to find )
asciilifeform: london, incidentally
asciilifeform: who said the brits achieved 0.
mircea_popescu: many variants. i actually bought a little table forceps once specifically because it looked like one historical type.
mircea_popescu: \this was intended for serving food though
shinohai: whoreticulture is hard work
asciilifeform: also one could interpret the burning as 'disinfect', but this is mistake, they thought of it merely as cleaning -- nobody thought to disinfect beds, or, more famously, hands.
mircea_popescu: but there was one with two hearty metal loops, facing each other, intended to grab the child's head. if head first presentation. there was a different turning item, for the case where the baby was strangling. there was also a sort of tyre iron for unhooking the shoulder (very common stuck birth issue).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is 19th not 16th century. there was some diffuse groking of hygiene.
asciilifeform: 19th iirc was really peak dyshygiene -- in 16th, not so many fluffy linens, and -- key -- delivery worked by, typically, some random old woman, rather than a 'pro' doc straight from dissectionary
mircea_popescu: "for the third, most women delivered assisted by an older woman without a doctor present. and so following."
asciilifeform: as i understand this was a + rather than a -
asciilifeform: for the tech level
mircea_popescu: with the exception of east coast, england and some parts of the european continent, that holds.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly a + for the common cases.
ben_vulpes: england actually going back to this model
ben_vulpes: "deliver at home, quit burdening the l'hopital with something mammals know how to do quite well"
ben_vulpes: woman wants dark warm hole in which to feel safe, stick her in operatory and holy doodle be retardedly surprised that things go sideways
ben_vulpes: also read yr ovid, normal term is 10 months ☟︎
BingoBoingo: !~later tell MKULTRA2 Who are you? I don't talk to strangers in pseudo-private
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Fellow wanted me to share https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=24336283&page=0&vc=#24336283
BingoBoingo: !#vulpes
a111: i will be SURE to listen VERY CLOSELY
ben_vulpes: quite.
ben_vulpes: what is this shroomery thing anyways, a shitty erowid knockoff?
ben_vulpes: top grade lols to be found in the trip reports of the little blues in combination with pretty much anything
asciilifeform: usg-narcoprovocateur-honeypotforum.
ben_vulpes: in other lols, where the us clitoral patrol ships get seawater in their lubricants, spanish dinghys get oil...everywhere: http://gcaptain.com/propulsion-problems-put-australias-largest-warships-out-of-service/
ben_vulpes bbl, salad
BingoBoingo: Phun Phack: Siemens light rail systems attract urban youth shennanigans in same way motorcycle sounds attact dogs
danielpbarron: most of the lsd i've done in my life i got from a fellow i met through the shroomery irc server. last i heard he's in prison now for selling to an undercover.
BingoBoingo: There's probably no space for drugs on the internet
danielpbarron: they were investigating a drug ring in ivy league colleges; this guy was selling to some guy who was distributing on campus. i don't recall ever hearing of someone getting busted who just bought for personal use and chatted about it online.
BingoBoingo: That's probably because "six honest words" kept on reserve for other hanging ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Upon reflection motorcycle is probably healthier vice than drugging
danielpbarron: to answer ben_vulpes' question, it's like erowid but with a focus on the cultivation of psychedelic mushrooms. oh also of note: it got unwanted attention (how i leared about it even) when a guy by the handle "ripper" died of an overdose live on webcam while the chat egged him on to do more drugs. and this was back before smart phones so having a webcam was not trivial
BingoBoingo: Ah, he was meme'd
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3430565.html
shinohai: http://image.nola.com/home/nola-media/width960/img/politics/photo/confederate-monument-protest-in-new-orleans-7557f3f516780959.jpg <<< lol WE HAZ A QNTRA READER
asciilifeform: notice the riot gear and masks on the crane d00dz
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/rumour-us-cia-lost-most-china-humint-assets-during-hussein-bahamas-administration/ << Qntra - Rumour: US CIA Lost Most China Humint Assets During Hussein Bahamas Administration ☟︎
phf: shroomery is a crustier take on erowid. if erowid is a 70s post-psychedelic ethnographer and psychonaut attempt at exhaustive substances library, shroomery is where borderline wooks go to share tips on synthesizing dmt using household objects. as the name implies it's primarily about mushroom growing (it's legal to ship spores, but mushroom growing is finicky, so it's a perfect dyi drug project)
asciilifeform: in other noose, probably will have to rewrite ffa entirely
asciilifeform: it makes an efficient mult routine impossible in principle
asciilifeform: because ALL ops take same time, so karatsuma, toom-cook, etc. cannot work because they fundamentally rely on breaking large x*y into a number of smaller a1*b1, a2*b2, ... ☟︎
asciilifeform: which take less time
asciilifeform: *karatsuba
asciilifeform: now it ~is~ possible to karatsubaize the thing, but in order for it to work -- ALL subroutines -- add, shifts, etc - will have to take an extra argument, L, for how-many-iterations to go for, rather than the current 'for i in Words'Range' .
asciilifeform: when called outside of mult routine, L == width.
asciilifeform: i see no other logically possible cut to this knot. if anybody else does -- please post.
asciilifeform: ('all ops take same time' , i oughta clarify, not as-all-other-ops, but regardless-of-what-operands )
ave1: From looking at karatsuba and how it could work bitwise, it might also be useful to have a starting offset
ave1: Also the current multiply could be made faster with this (but probably max factor 2)
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/21/defined-by-the-extremes/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Defined by the extremes.
mod6: I was about to embark on some fg-anal, but realized that I needed to re-run all of the test from FG #1 and one test from FG #2 -- as those were run before the thread about dd 'fullblock'.
mod6: Rerunning these now... will update as they complete.
shinohai: https://github.com/UASF/bitcoin/releases <<< the latest it appears from the segwit camp
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: tomatoes and peppers in the ground as of today