shinohai: I was surprised it didn't myself, but guess they had to beat other "cloud storage" providers to punch.
shinohai: I'm surprised I'm not banned yet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can send a "message" via dorky webap
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You got both at different times
trinque: I've disappeared down a hole of "right wing" meme'd up twatter
trinque: this animator chick looks like skanks I used to drink with in portland
trinque: I approve of this movement.
trinque: no skank is worth pennsylvania
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no skank is bolted down, either. << of all things, this having not been done by mp irl surprises me. It's not like bolts are permanent. Not like welding them down
BingoBoingo: It's not like you gotta bolt the meat. Cuff the meat, bolt the cuffs.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 2314.3, Best ask: 2316.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 2316.0, 24 hour volume: 53787.68533689, 24 hour low: 2103.1, 24 hour high: 2654.4, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu just picked up a phone for the first time in what must be about five years.
mircea_popescu: i tell you it's kinda weird, that moment when you don't know who the fuck is calling and what they want.
BingoBoingo: Oh, who was their daddy and what do they do?
mircea_popescu: random administrative thing. very happy/scared to hear me of all people
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this weird lsd shit isn't actually bad, visually ? or aurally for that matter.
BingoBoingo: lol, aha. Apparently Szabo hitting people's bozo meter is beginning to be found in the wild
mircea_popescu: it's like fat people coming up with "walk guilt" to explain why they ain't getting out of bed. notwithstanding "they're perfectly healthy, can even stand!!11"
mircea_popescu: "o dude i just think of all the celenterates, oysters and snails and things and it's just too overwhelming. damned negros DON'T EVEN HAVE LEGS!"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the boston thurf, an oyster was eating a woman right out of her plate.
BingoBoingo: OH, apparently different szabo "Take the late Brian Szabo for example. Brian Szabo, originally from Ohio, and formerly residing in Richmond, Virginia, was an executive with SunTrust bank. Considering the subject of this article, you’ll find it ironic that his title with SunTrust was “Vice President for Corporate Operational Risk.”"
BingoBoingo: "In addition, who invites a guy who had no job or family ties and whose only source of income was a mental disability stipend into your home? Nigel Walker, a gud boi who dindu nuffin, was essentially an adopted pet of the Szabo family and, in turn, he brutally stabbed the late Brian Szabo in the neck. Police found Szabo in a pool of his own blood in his posh West End neighborhood home. "
mircea_popescu: dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is what they do instead of coming here. fucktards.
mircea_popescu: !!rate szabo -10 "you'll die as you lived, in a flash of the blade, a fucktard remembered by no-one..."
deedbot: szabo is not registered in WoT.
BingoBoingo: Well, wha can the daiper do in the trash can except complain the candy wrapper next to it is sticky
mircea_popescu: "can't have slavegirls like proper white males, on their knees naked, that'd be too... you know, like right, and proper. no, no, must invite random twink to rule the posh bullshit etcetera"
mircea_popescu: mp's questionnaire is growing. "are you living in a retired low level us-politruk / inteligentsia zone ?" "do you live with some punk pet you picked off the street ?"
mircea_popescu: remarkably how well it covers the "republic's allies" that aren't either of the republic or its allies.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if all these idiots saw a clockwork orange, and decided "yes, that is what i wish to do with my life! i wanna be THAT loser!"
trinque: bahaha, entirely the formula for the 4chan nazi thing. "this was the most transgressive thing I could find. no es un pais pobre!"
trinque: that chick that made the psychedelic dog video claims to be a nazi.
trinque: presumably of the 4chan.org/pol variety
mircea_popescu: 3rd wave nazis and 6th wave feminists duke it out in the dream machine!
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 14:44 mircea_popescu: dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins
mircea_popescu: i thought it was entirely for "look in the mirror" narcisiac purposes.
mircea_popescu: obviously is. there is ONE WAY to do resource allocation, and if it's not used what you got is socialist rot.
mircea_popescu: seems that their answer to "my god, we built fucking korea, our kids would rather hang themselves than come back home and therer's absolutely nothing to buy" is to take in a retard for a cat.
mircea_popescu: well no fucking wonder they're stabbing them in the fucking eyes, jhesus
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder they don't also urinate on the writhing cadaver.
mircea_popescu: "oh, if i do this, people will have to like me!" wtf nonsense.
mircea_popescu: reason people write things is so others read the things back to them, huh.
trinque: pretty common american 80s movie trope, right? "ends up liked! the end."
mircea_popescu: it's even in seinfeld. "i'd have all this money and people would love me" george costanza daydreaming of philantrophy.
mircea_popescu: from experience, that sort of thing is decided by the woman declaring, not by looks.
mircea_popescu: sure it's possible, but i'm telling you, "how it looks" is a terrible heuristic.
mircea_popescu: yes well, if girl attempts to make carrot cake with "All i got here are these potatoes" she gets in trouble.
deedbot: daffadil voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: B4338076C48E09C37C900F28D73BBEDFECE35DD4 registered as daffadil.
daffadil: I was recommended here by Gabe Laddel
daffadil: Currently learning the ropes and reading
mircea_popescu: !!v DC975E8D241C6A5C3FBFC9B19269498161CC014D43585A24FE8D45CA390AF874
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated daffadil 1 << biology/artist/human
shinohai: Any examples of thy art daffadil ?
daffadil: don't understand the "Get your OTP" message from deedbot, whose key encrypted it?
mircea_popescu: daffadil oh i misunderstood what you were asking. i gave deedbot an order, and to verify my identity it encrypted something to my key. that string in !!v
daffadil: +mircea_popescu so I don't need to do anything with that deedbot OTP message?
daffadil: Ok.....many interesting features and I am enjoying being enfolded within them......
phf: mircea_popescu: do romanians eat buckwheat?
phf: i cook it at the office from time to time, and every time i get "wtf" reactions, and not just from the infidels, but from eastern europeans too. slovenian (slovak?) girl at the office was very confused by it, what is it? how do you eat it? why do you eat it?
phf: "baby you want me to cook you some GRECHKA!!1"
mircea_popescu: afaik casha was a very ... jewish retirement home thing in the us, limited to east coast.
phf: i think ashkenazim might've brought it to u.s. as "kasha", i.e. explicitly buckwheat porridge, rather than porridge in general
deedbot: daffadil voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: yeah, my mother's line is a mongrel lemki, ashkenazi and polish, so i grew up on a yushka, salo, holubtsi, but also like chopped liver, goulash, knish, etc.
mircea_popescu: i love slanina. properly smoked and with proper ro 52proof shine... o ya
mircea_popescu: impossible to get outside of traditional transylvanian farm tho, in my exp
phf: there's a faux butcher shop in georgetown that sells various eastern european meets at premium, but i doubt the quality. their salo is questionable. my mom is working on a project in ukrain at the moment, so she's been sending photos of vodka carafe & large slabs of salo
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 04:19 BingoBoingo: Well it shouldn't have been so fat. Nao it's got butterbrain.
deedbot: eplogos voiced for 30 minutes.
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670306 << amusingly, this is great for pharma-coin though; 1) sell the "ourdemocracy you-are-worth-it-and-can-do-anything" message, 2) create populace of people that end up 'depressed' and feeling 'unfulfilled' because they are fulfilling their natural role as non-human, but told otherwise, 3) extract $>sustenance in form of 'anti-depression' drugz
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 15:27 mircea_popescu: and the whole story of "oh, 1800 style squalor and poverty and five points erradicated!!! great ourdemocracy progress!!!" is really just very caked on masking upon the base fact that "we redirected all resources away from fun, so that now there's nothing to do but wait to die a la
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670156 lobbes starting to grok how bone-fide slavery is actually the 'more humane' model
mircea_popescu: lobbes the whole thing revolves around the valuation of lying. for the people that judge lying as a primum malum, proper slavery is the more humane model. for the people who judge lying as the primum bonum, the us/su nonsense is the more humane model.
mircea_popescu: in the end the question comes down to, do you feel like a man, or do you feel like a woman ? just don't lie to me or lie to me prettily ?
☟︎ trinque: all the insanity around "identifying as" points directly to it. most folks *cannot* form an identity outside being told what they are. having been told incoherent nonsense, little wonder the starving creatures flail for control of the mechanism
mircea_popescu: and this is not ideology, but biology. if you have a sexuate species, then THEREFORE you will have a female (defined as, carrying the burden to term).
trinque: the drugs are in that sense the same as the "I am a pony", both towards a feeling
mircea_popescu: as you've made this a biological necessity by your "sexuate" idea, it then follows that about half the population will enjoy the passive benefit of the other half being fucked over. as in, bars wouild be a lot fuller and service a lot crappier if women also crowded them.
mircea_popescu: and therefore, the female will want to be lied to prettily. because lied to she will be, and she knows this. there's no way to window dress the cost of sexuate reproduction into anything else. though they try.
trinque: puts the female behaviors in context. "I'm going to be parasitized as a matter of course, better fatten up, hide, etc"
mircea_popescu: things make perfect sense once one stops trying to lie about what they are.
mircea_popescu: and it's a significant cost, at that. the A grade baby is at birth three kilograms worth about 8 calories per gram, plus a metabolic average of about 650 calories a day over its forty week womb life.
mircea_popescu: add to this the grandiose benefit of you know, i sit around all day while girls work their ass off at the gym three times a week, yet my ass is still firmer and i can lift them and throw them because hey, fuck you for hoping.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: 40 * 7 * 650 * 4184 / ( 34.2 * 10**6 ) = 22.265730994152047
mircea_popescu: at thye time all this is relevantly going on, a sharpened stick goes on the open market for fifty two plain sticks.
mircea_popescu: myeah. it is mega-cost, because hunted bison only counts about 4kcal per kg.
mircea_popescu: more like 2.5 or so if you weigh the carcass fresh, as opposed to filleted.
mircea_popescu: no, see, because by now it's entirely baked in the culture.
mircea_popescu: biology doesn't care that a millisecond ago you built an oil refinery for the first time.
mircea_popescu: right. and the universe we're discussing for "change you can believe in" counts by the half million years to be generous.
phf: met some of those down south
phf: well, i've met a handful a American Boy types who were interested in fighting on behalf of israel and defending the christian faith (???) against muslims over the past years, but it's gotten to the point where this doesn't seem to be fringe position
phf: also in the last two years, as putin became a kind of presidential role model for the midwest, i think it also became a lot more acceptable to come out in support of countries that are not america, so america and its people are seen as having lost the way, etc. it went from "red scare" to "i wish putin was our president" (a phrase i've heard more than once even before the previous election cycle)
trinque: "israel can do no wrong" is a serious item of conversation around idiot evangelical dinner tables.
☟︎ phf: this is a highly amusing reversal from a decade ago, when left was pro-russia and right anti-
trinque: well bush "got a sense of the man's soul" and now he's okay.
phf: actually in 2005 or so, i was reading a lot of hunter thompson and first got into the whole americana thing. i spent some time at kind of dirty biker honky tonk places. my guides, on more than one occasion, warned me not to speak at all (at first, and while i'm sober anyway), so as not to alert the locals to the fact that i'm russian. i'm pretty sure that at this point at the same bars i would automatically gain an honored guest status for being russia
trinque: "end times" cult is a giant chunk of north american christianity
phf: asciilifeform: you don't have to travel far, there's plenty of exotic locations nearby, particularly as you get close to appalachian ridge
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 19:04 trinque: "israel can do no wrong" is a serious item of conversation around idiot evangelical dinner tables.
mircea_popescu: that "e3nd of times" is a major portion of religiodiocy since forever.
trinque: nothing gets the mothers fretting quite like "the bad thing will happen to all of it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im pretty sure originally it was just that, "You'll be sorry" "oh yeah ? whyt ?" "THE BAD THING!!1"
mircea_popescu: everything becomes appealing eventually, through human perversity.
mircea_popescu: "o ya ? i there's nothing i can do about it then tell you what, ILL LIKE IT! SO THERE!"
trinque: no, but the term as used here means "the ultimate foil"
trinque: no matter what you do, thwarted. even your war
trinque: not taking my meaning. it means hanging out there in front of you in the future, is everything you may ever conceive of doing, already thwarted
trinque: and it's your fault, fucker
trinque: we were discussing what some particular end times cult's symbol "means"
trinque: I am not prepared to redefine "
trinque: apocalypse" according to asciilifeform's metaphysics
trinque: maybe the god of web development rises and declares that none shall die until theorems can be written and proved by mashing tab
trinque: "my whole system of meaning and context of agency is extinguished"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is that the "end of worlds" moment as found from odin to osiris is NOT a practical item, but symbolic. "everything you have burns down and nothing makes sense anymore"
mircea_popescu: it's a very... ango-ustardian notion that "judgement" shall mean someone actually passes.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 19:37 trinque: better sit on hands and behave!
trinque: yes yes, I long for death.
trinque: the things are universal, likely a cause and not "each snowflake had a different notion about apocalypse"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 16:23 asciilifeform: iirc jurov is a slovak . hey jurov , do you folx eat buckwheat ?
deedbot: fffeee voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> d00d is simply not digestible by my enzymes, or sumthing << It's the drugz
BingoBoingo: Same reason gabriel chaffes, just chaffing different spot on skin
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's a very... ango-ustardian notion that "judgement" shall mean someone actually passes. << BUT THEY MADE IT TO THE END!!!
BingoBoingo: Anyways, old people use buckwheat in USia as a magic totem of "pls let me shit just one more time"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, it's supposed to rain here 4cm today and 4 more cm tonight.
mircea_popescu: with any luck i'll be realising alf's dream of a floating house.
BingoBoingo: It's those 15 cm afternoons you have to worry about.