pete_dushenski:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-26#1548846 << that's what $900/sf buys you in the shriveled heart of bezzlelandia. also, it's really just the gaudy twitter signage mucking up the design. the building is perhaps on the soviet/slabby side, but it's not without its charming details, particularly the entabulatures.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-09-26 23:13 mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone ever noticed how fucking ugly twitter hq is ?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: huh. i thought mp-wp woulda had that setting. my second comment on that first article went through unimpeded.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: whatever it was, it's gone now. both load ~instantly.
pete_dushenski: and with that, ima go catch a bit of this clitler roast. bbl.
mircea_popescu reading on cascadia... "you stand by a switch. her buttocks are really inviting but her nipples are really erect..."
trinque: heh, neither of these idiots can form coherent sentences.
trinque shall not be watching the next "debate"
phf: trinque: ru has a phrase to describe the nature of that debate: "ура наши победили" direct translation is "yaay ours have won!!". specific word choice evokes early soviet propaganda movies, where "ours" were of course the red cavalry, and the phrase would typically be uttered by some country bumpkin recruited for the cause of the revolution.
phf: the phrase can be used, when, for example, representatives of your village have successfully beat up representatives of neighboring village, your favorite football team has won, etc.
trinque: hundreds of millions of guns, and all it amounts to is blacks burning down their own neighborhood and lawyers from the suburbs shooting up the shopping center my girlfriend was at yesterday buying sewing stuff.
trinque: nation of cowards going insane because they're facing death like animals, without the ability to reason.
phf: not having died yet, i'm more concerned about living like animals part..
trinque: phf: I figure the end of these things is basically the aggregate of however many million mental breakdowns.
phf: nah, preventing that is what the antidepressants are for
trinque: asciilifeform: I do not doubt it
BingoBoingo: "Clinton said she'd like to see Trump travel to 112 countries, negotiate peace deals, 'or even spend 11 hours testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can talk to me about stamina.' She also insinuated RACISM was at bay. "This is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs," she added." << NBC's LEIGH Ann Caldwell on Clinton on Trump. RACISM!!!
trinque: was about to criticize, then saw "Doris"
trinque went to a school like that in FL, broke one of their noses, didn't have any problems
BingoBoingo: You poor insufficiently priviledged thing.
trinque: hell, one of them stabbed me in the leg with a pencil one time, so I did what any gentleman would do.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [02:54:23] <phf> the phrase can be used, when, for example, representatives of your village have successfully beat up representatives of neighboring village, your favorite football team has won, etc.
BingoBoingo: Well, now that you are older and wiser, mebbe next time you take you your utility knife and relocate their urinary exit?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [03:01:37] <trinque> nation of cowards going insane because they're facing death like animals, without the ability to reason.
mircea_popescu: lol racism through "calling women pigs", because totally a) women are a race b) claiming "racism" is how you win at politics c) everyone really cares about your misrepresentations of the hater op's sayings and assorted aphorisms.
trinque: I was sad he behaved, though not surprised.
mod6: And, clitler looked like the conductor of the band on the deck of the Titanic.
trinque: aha, smiling like "you'll be *fine*!"
mircea_popescu: "america dun need to be made great again because i can pretend the year is still 1980 and reagan's in charge any time i want!"
mircea_popescu: she ain't got a latrine pig's prayer in the latrine, alfie.
BingoBoingo: "This is gossip warfare, going to war in order to have the right to tell other peoples how to live, how to treat their wives, how to manage their economy." << Gold
BingoBoingo: "But to a woman, to a creature of gossip, the thought that another nation might be listening in on her private conversations, is cause for war! What is even more disturbing is that more women vote than men, a higher proportion of women vote than do men, and that women are far more likely to vote for war than are men." << Moar
trinque: If one currently looks to YouTube videos, it will become incredibly apparent that women are more aggressive and more violent than man, will fight cops at a higher rate, are more likely to attack men than are men, are more likely to attack women than are men, and are more likely to try and maim a downed opponent than are men. << but then he goes and does that.
trinque: clearly, given youtube! therefore.
mircea_popescu: eh, these are murky complex waters. not really within ex boxer's paygrade.
trinque: this "female violence" theory is only applicable insofar as it describes something women do in the total absence of functioning males
trinque: as such ought not be discussed as any sort of cause of the thing.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone (of the married with children contingent) know what braxton hicks contractions are ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and now back to the issue : human sexuality is an intertwined ball of yarn, with layer upon layer of complex mechanisms driven over many years by the erosion of evolution. just plain obstetrics holds plenty of mysteries to the average folk (quick, what's cervical effacement ?), and so wide sweeping, far reaching discussions of third and above degree effects, such as the social behaviour of "war" are bound to be pretty nonsens
mircea_popescu: but yes, by and large men will fight "for" women. cuz for what the fuck else, aliens ?
mircea_popescu: "when he finds out his lead used the company gas card to drive a mini-bus full of whores to Ocean City" dude who the fuck would be upset over this ?
BingoBoingo: Still people suck at evaluating risk and severity. People get all panicked because there's a wee bit of nutsedge in their lawn, it's bruise. At the same time they'll ignore the bermudagrass taking over, and that shit is stage IV lawn cancer.
mircea_popescu: seriously now. what fucking trite boring nitwits are these ?
mircea_popescu: dude if the company can't afford to ferry some women to the designated fuckbeach it should be rolled up anyway.
BingoBoingo: Some bipeds don't know how to budget, yet still try to business. Very sick fact, but fact.
BingoBoingo: Well its the blub thing. They don't grok the more srs bsns.
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mircea_popescu: you know people can go a coupla days being busy with, eg, a new lover, a dead family member, buying a new piece of real estate / boat / etcetera.
davout: pretty good actually, got my residence permit today
davout: which kinda looks like a badly forged drivers license a 20-yo ustard would use to go have drinks
thestringpuller: oh nice! so just chillin' for now? a break is good every now and then.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [13:14:42] <asciilifeform> ACTION woke up from dream where we had 4th conf. this time, at mircea_popescu's house, which turned out to be a gigantic repurposed office park, wunderwaffen in every room, even the nazi 'Glocke' neutron generator; we sat in a great hall and drank mead and thanked odin for the gift of valour; then went to the tank room and each pulled gigantic sea
scriba: slugs, shaped like various animals, e.g., pig, out of a tank, and by the choice mircea_p
mircea_popescu: fwiw i see ACTION with the first glyph rendered as 0001
mircea_popescu: ohv, possibly the world's shittiest host in terms of all the spam/abuse/assorted crap they push out.
phf: so that ^AACTION is actually how irc encodes /me's
phf: so there's at least two bugs happening here :) somehow it's missing from btcbase and Framedragger's znc (or is it the python bot) is leaking ACTION marks
phf: well, if Framedragger is still parsing the znc logs, then znc does it for you. it'll be <foo> blah, or * foo blah or somesuch
mircea_popescu: a leading example implementation of asciilifeform 's point re "ascii is like naked people"
phf: btcbase actually parses ACTION messages and turns the record into message-self
phf: (it's possible the message is missing for other reasons though, that's on august 27th, i.e. the day when i left for burn and btcbase was being spammed to oblivion)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that glocke bs is something else. seriously, rando pole came up with some nutty shit in 2000 and the murican joseph smiths ran with it ?
mircea_popescu: well, the origin is a single report from a pole (ie, nato) who is a literal re-enaction of historical mormon guy.
mircea_popescu: literally, the angel moroni showed him some sikrit documents ?
mircea_popescu: so which part of the nonsense is part of your accepted reconstruction ? i don't imagine sponeaneous margerinization of plant matter for a 150 to 200 m radius makes it in?
mircea_popescu: also, the effects described aren't quite what neutron beams do.
mircea_popescu: look. what source of neutrons do you have in mind other than a linear accelerator ?
mircea_popescu: well it'd help if you said that. ie, "a clumsy, bulky fusor" not "a clumsy, bulky neutron source"
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes it wouldn't stretch the bounds of the plausible, seeing how eg tesla was dicking around with high electrostatic potentials for his principal entertainment.
mircea_popescu: now, if they managed to source a megawatt, which seems dubious, and if they managed to get the usual 10^5 power loss, which seems also dubious, even if we grant they had the concept 30 years early, then it follows that they might have made 100 watt worth of neutron source.
mircea_popescu: well sure, but there's a difference between the Vs, which actually did land in london, and in abundance bordering on public nuisance
mircea_popescu: it doesn't seem likely the device they might have built would have killed much of anyone ; moreover the story of "fatalties" is how pubescent males always tend to lend a shrowd of cool to their fantasious fabrications.
mircea_popescu: im sure the journalist had a bunch of girlfriends "that died" back when he was 13.
mircea_popescu: especially given that it REALLY helps the story, "oh, last summer i went to this secret palace where all the girls are 19 and spend the whole day nude. unfortunately they all died. curse of the nudist palace."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform any idea why it would be that fucking big ? you don't really gain much by making the outer cage 3 meters wide.
mircea_popescu: ugh. so 5 out of 7 people who made it accidentally looked down the barrel ?
mircea_popescu: so it wouldn't stretch the bounds of the plausible if the nazis had an early, low efficiency, fusor-like thing ; which would have been no larger than a doberman ; and so isn't related to either some random polish dude's fantasies of "my village is special - look, that mountainside, is where thor sat down!" or whatever argentina landing bills.
mircea_popescu is fully satisfied with "precious metals" explanation re that, fwiw.
mircea_popescu: wasn't obvious at all, i spent an hour this morning wading through pseudoscience swamp because of you!
mircea_popescu: anyway. my fault for not keeping current on physical crackpottery i guess
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this theory is altogether dubious because one of the richest u fields in all of europe was in romania, cvasi-native u-in-quartz deposits. which went unbothered until the 50s, when the soviets dug them up.
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mircea_popescu: however - the easy access petroleum, as well as copper, iron etc was hit first.
mircea_popescu: so you'd have expected them to ; romania was an ally after all ; and they did hit the oilfields.
PeterL:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-27#1548932 << braxton hicks are a pre-labor contractions that are painful and annoying to the woman, can start up to a couple months before actual labor, sort of an on-again, off-again random contraction at various intervals (contrast with actual contractions which come at a steady rate and build in intensity)
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-09-27 04:01 mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone (of the married with children contingent) know what braxton hicks contractions are ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL word. you can also induce them through masturbation ; and the process can result in a slight increase in amniotic fluid.
PeterL: useful to know, I guess
mircea_popescu: can come in handy, if you're for instance repressing men-talking-about-women-and-society-their-own-way.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole thing was centered around "third and above degree effects, such as the social behaviour of "war""
phf: asciilifeform: oh you're right
mircea_popescu: trinque any hoap for wotpaste pubkey to deedbot directly ?
trinque: asciilifeform: actually I could fart them over to you as I receive.
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah, I'll hammer that out momentarily
trinque: the thing's going through a major cleaving process, nearly done
trinque: logbot-wot, logbot-deedbot, logbot-wallet, so on.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, mutual masturbation with phuctor not a bad idea, if it can be done somehow so it doesn't make the ensemble more friable.
trinque: background cron that flips a "sent_to_phuctor" bit
mircea_popescu: i dunno, pretend not to notice, see who tries to scam you ? eat their babies for desert ?
mircea_popescu: there are no absolutes here. better and worse are entirely undefined.
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mircea_popescu: depends. at 14 you prolly care about all the nude classmates you got there.
rAISellers: mircea_popescu I think so, did not sync yet or something like that...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe. somehow subjectively this is never perceived the same way.
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mod6: <+asciilifeform> feel free to make'em dump key into phuctor << very cool
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shinohai: Weird why he hasn't been seen yet, his key imported to keyserver
trinque: I'm doing the paste-import thing. patience rAISellers
trinque: oh boy, here comes the tornado
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for one thing, unpublished key is a simpler variant. create secret key K, salt-and-hash K, publish K. at later point divulge K. verification is one step and passive for you.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't matter so much, future cryptosystem will be made on the basis of rng ; rng can work with pubkey as entropy source.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: t1 : i make rsa key K ; don't share it with anyone. i publish hash(salt+pubkey.K)
jhvh1: stormy with a chance of packeting
mircea_popescu: t2+epsilon : i publish key J in cryptosystem ? which was created with entropy = privkey.K
mircea_popescu: at t2+epsilon, everyone can verify K-J continuity ; at t2 only breaker of rsa can verify.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but he has to also break the salted hash
mircea_popescu: which is why yours and this are equivalent (they depend on the strength of has function)
mircea_popescu: in this scheme, hash has to be epsilon-strong and that's all.
mircea_popescu: i publish k, you a) verify it hash-salts to same value and b) encrypt to it
mircea_popescu: because the only one who could make j is the one who at t1 owned privkey.L
mircea_popescu: so if ? has a encrypt() and decrypt() which seems like a safe proposition
mircea_popescu: and if it further has a create-key() which seems more dubious, but is it allowable ?
mircea_popescu: then at t2+epsilon when i publish k you extract privkey.K from it and check that J was made by create-key(privkey.K_
mircea_popescu: well no, i just publish the fingerprint. as per t2 = rsa broken, it then follows one can extract privkey.K from K
mircea_popescu: i don't. the point is to prove K-J continuity , not to retain sole control of J
mircea_popescu: J.sign("Here's the laydown : 1. rsa got fucked, this is the process to exrtract privkey from pubkey ; 2. message so-and-so on deedbot was creating by so-hashing this salt and this pubkey ; 3. this here key J was created by using cryptoisystem ? with rng = privkey.K, which guarantees i am the one that made it ; 4. please use this here J' in future")
mircea_popescu: this system presumes there's such a thing as ordering of events.
mircea_popescu: this however is a necessary assumption (seen in t1 t2 etc) and not escapable in the current paradigm.
mircea_popescu: suppose for safety of this scheme, ? is made so that create-key takes a day.
mircea_popescu: in general "collapsed cryptosystem" reduces one to a "either you have time-order and single-message or else you restart from scratch".
mircea_popescu: well yes, because it implements a sort of single-message kludge.
mircea_popescu: the correct pill to all of this being, of course, gossipd.
mircea_popescu: because of the whole "array of keys" thing, it'd actually allow jumping over dead rsa
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your scheme is actually dead in the water because between t2 and t3 enemy can deedbot in your name.
mircea_popescu: at t1.5 hitler deedbots J', at t2.5 hitler deedbots S' so that hash(s'+j') = hash(s+j)
mircea_popescu: this is a much weaker standard of failure for h than "here's h(s) tell me s"
mircea_popescu: also enemy has t3-t1 to fish for the pair ; as opposed to epsilon
mircea_popescu: and t3-t1 is in his control, whereas epsilon is in mine
mircea_popescu: at time t1+e hitler publishes J' ; at time t2+e hitler publishes S'.
mircea_popescu: and see the comments above re weaker standard and bad time exposure.
mircea_popescu: so nobody cares about your S anymore because afatk, S' is S
mircea_popescu: so he'll have to find proper salt-collision, h(s+j') = h(s+j)
mircea_popescu: this is STILL a weaker standard than "gimme s in h(s)" albeit not quite as catastrophically bad as prevbiously thought
mircea_popescu: and the problem of t3-t1 being an interval at enemy's discretion rather than your discretion remains.
mircea_popescu: now this said, a provably collision-resistant h might be found ; and would be amply useful.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because he decides when you find out rsa was broken
mircea_popescu: well yes, but in my secret-k scheme the epsilon is my domain alone.
mircea_popescu: still, i wouldn't say these differences allow for a strict determination.
mircea_popescu: the one important salient point here is that what we would really like for a hash function would be a H so that it is mathematically proven that NO j' exists so that h(s+j) = h(s+j')
mircea_popescu: hey, you're breaking rsa over there, do some useful stuff!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't require that len(h(x)) < len(x).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform t1 you publish K.sign(hash(S)) ; time t2 you publish J.sign(hash(S+S')) ; time t3 you publish S and S' thus proving J knew before everyone else.
mircea_popescu: still simpler than your thing, and imo better collision resistance (now h(s) = h(s+s') is required which iirc is tougher than (s+x) = (s+y) )
mircea_popescu: just vague memories from back when i knew friends with rainbow tables.
mircea_popescu: like last week, lol. eulora db work has a lot of similarities.
mircea_popescu: the bitch with high level cognition, be it math, fucking, programming horses, riding computers et all is that you never fucking know which the same thing you'll be doing this time
mircea_popescu: i propose to you that if jockeys were sent to write software and code monkeys sent to ride horses, the overal results would sum to more.
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trinque: derp, I didn't upload the key, so of course the second one didn't work
trinque: omaigad, I think I just had an empathy
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trinque: mircea_popescu: alrighty, both paths workin.
jurov: thestringpuller: done. not sick, just afk for a bit
trinque: shinohai: what was the thing?
jurov: ty asciilifeform BingoBoingo
shinohai: trinque: yeah it's due to the freenode brouhaha
BingoBoingo: ^ Rumours of a pumpkin spice shortage are a Debeers style fabrication. Unless the shortage is on the spice side of things.
trinque chants clim, clim, clim, in the hopes that gabriel_laddel shall appear
trinque: wtf am I supposed to do, go query the cucks in #clim ?
trinque: embedded doodad that puts some data on an LCD screen for an app of mine.
BingoBoingo chants clam, clam, clam, hopes that Poseidon appears
mircea_popescu: what is with all the bullshit connections you people get!
ben_vulpes: no dedicated microwave to the dirigible
ben_vulpes: "dear elon, why won't you hire foreign nationals"
ben_vulpes: "because rockets are weapons tech, you dipshit"
mircea_popescu: seeing the success of the littoral beercan program, i'm vaguely surprised the usg doesn't bless its doomed effort of catching up with china/russia with cubical rockets.
mircea_popescu: cylinders are disrespectful to women and africans, after all.
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: or "i'm an alien and am trying to get home, so usg would have to admit they are harboring a martian"
mircea_popescu: think about all the advantages : a cubical rocket doesn't need to be steered as much.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-26 17:33 asciilifeform: incidentally i find it quite hilarious that three years after the snowden catalogue leak, the constellation of symptoms of rf bug illuminator victims is still Officially 'schizo'
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: is that movie any good?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fwiw, the author reads rather disturbed to me.
mircea_popescu: in particular, the "pay attention to your own thought process" is pretty miserable advice.
mircea_popescu: tends to create the psychogenic equivalent of what happens when you go live on your local radio station with the phone next to the radio set.
mircea_popescu: imo the ~best advice in that situation is "go fuck many whores". nothing beats it and fits on a page. which is why i always suspected the pua folk of being a lot more reasonable than anyone realises.
mircea_popescu: marginal and subclinical psychiatric cases abound in "modern democracy"
mircea_popescu: man who is married to a place he can't defend was already pretty disturbed.
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gabriel_laddel: It does. I search the logs for clim and my handle ~daily
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Perhaps set up a Climsten bot to ping yourself?
shinohai: "Notorious transmayogendered hamplanet and serial fraudster Marshall Long has yet to complete his life's mission of eating himself to death." <<< perfect BingoBoingo
trinque: what's the frame resize hook thinger, so I can redraw a pane when my frame changes?
BingoBoingo: Macrowave!!! 512bps is enough for anyone!!!
BingoBoingo: Use seperate antennas of differing lengths to allow FM!!!
shinohai: BingoBoingo I haz stripper news incoming soon
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Ironically the weather in Omsk seems to roughly mirror that of St Louis except the summer and winter extremes of temperature are still more extreme in Omsk
pete_dushenski: also, fewer taxes and still fewer negroes in omsk. sorta tought to beat.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: alf's old rubles went through at least one official devaluation since his move
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: man alive flights to ireland are priiiicey. more than oz even. /me will be waiting for a deal like a good jew.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: sounds like a frivolous waste of money
ben_vulpes: buying people to drill holes in, exotic drills...
pete_dushenski: mebbe irish are cheeper to buy. i have to go there to find out.
BingoBoingo: Great LOL: Tonight on NBC Nightly news half of their segment on last night's debate was spent accussing Trump of fatshaming 20 years ago!
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Too much legal circle jerk, too little strippers
BingoBoingo: The outrage should be over America's cloaca hating healthy women, not their laws having or not having legal grounds
shinohai: Meh I'll probably can it since I can find no info on stripper id's
BingoBoingo: Eh, if you want to pursue it there's prolly angles. Existing draft just leans too much on legalisms nest