mircea_popescu: it's their hypercad. "When i was a wee tyke this seemed like srs bzns"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i make most of my money out of being capable to use the tool that's adequate for the job whereas everyone else just goes with the fastest loop.
mircea_popescu: this seems about as unlikely as saying "in sane russia, sexually attractive women and women with pleasant personalities are the same woman"
mircea_popescu: batching was the preferred mode of engineers. historically.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. anthropologically relevant though, created a whole identity mythos.
trinque: this'd be one of those overly broad ones.
mircea_popescu: i have no position here, merely observing the history of the thing.
mircea_popescu: !!deed for instance works fine by my eyes, but it does not pass the "monkey do, monkey see" test.
trinque: to quote my old boss, one of his better observations imo is that spreadheets (and db as discussed in thread) are tools for classification and distinction
mircea_popescu: trinque the issue is that just because it felt convenient to the wee tyke it doesn't follow it is ~useful~.
mircea_popescu: cocaine is the eminent example. it FEELS like it does things to you. it does not therefore HELP.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and this goes directly to all the "no mp, dope totally makes you a better thinker" threads.
trinque: the vast majority of the accountant guy's job is defining categories, listing their properties, relating them to each other
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 23:58 trinque: the accountant fellow I mentioned, for $100mil scale oil contract compliance, also excel macros.
trinque: visicalc and descendants leaned most this way, and thus he still uses that when alternatives aparrently exist
mircea_popescu: lobbes what happens when they starty paying the btc ransoms ?
trinque: lobbes: of the NoSQLs of which I'm aware, that's the saddest
mircea_popescu: you realise all it takes is for someone to salt the parking lot with hello kitty usbs.
lobbes: Tis a purely political reason, of course
trinque: mircea_popescu: what'd the guy's classification and distinction device look like in the alternative?
mircea_popescu: i am not proposing an alternative for that function. doctor isn't in the line of proposing replacement for cocaine, and from the "i wanna feel good" perspective the whole pharmacopoea is a waste of space.
trinque: or biologist, goes on safari, starts catalog of observations, begins drawing relationships between them
lobbes was dismayed when I came in, automated a 40 hr excel proccess down to about 10mins just by using sql (access of all the god awful things) only to be told it was verboten
mircea_popescu: let the man play with his excel and feel happy, just like some writers prefer to sketch their novels in gf's faeces on bathroom floor. none of this makes gf shit an economically relevant inkwell system.
lobbes: Now I pour my brain into tmsr, much more rewardinf
mircea_popescu: lobbes see, because they made the mistake of banning things instead of simply banning stupid.
☟︎ lobbes: That is a great summation
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-10#1641504 << From experience, there's a definite slot for learning filled by sql. i personally show girls how to use a db for their own shit, which may be simply grocery lists ("now tell me how many kgs of pepper we bought by day last year"). truthg be told the path to a structured mind is long and arduous.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 18:29 phf: ok, i guess we both know what the problem is. my solution is "study db related algorithms until you know enough to write a db", your solution, unless i misunderstand, seems to be "use an existing database a lot". i don't understand how learning, say, postgresql will get you from not knowing anything about db internal design to writing your own
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this naive view is mostly borne of not much using excel.
mircea_popescu: the attempt to understand another's excel pile is not unliuke trying to grok the intended functioning of the preferred emacs setup of a rabid squirrel.
mircea_popescu: in my own (limited) experience, every time i found myself consulting for this lot i had them write, by hand, in narrative form, what they thought their excels did.
mircea_popescu: before coming up with the "Write it down. By hand." i had an excel depacker, which cost me literal man-years to have made and tuned, and which was good but far from perfect.
mircea_popescu: (and no, it NEVER happened that two people in the same team using the same tools actually had compatible notions of what the tools did.)
mircea_popescu: it's just not clear that the particular sense is actually relevant in any public sense.
mircea_popescu: and this goes right back ot the literacy vs hyeroglyphs thread, amusingly enough.
mircea_popescu: and my party girls would not have been well served by the soviet dress fashions for professional females cca 1965.
mircea_popescu: also, i dunno how relevant but factual in any case : 90% of in-house it support requests from excel users is exactly, "i did thing and it did i dunno what or why halp!1"
mircea_popescu: which is ~how "from scratch for srs db" projects even end up engaged in by banks and their ilk. the it dept is pushing relentlessly for away-from-excel for this reason every single board meeting.
mircea_popescu: "we'll end up hiring two excel support people for every backofice gurl!!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, they want to do things that don't involve talking to girls or ~~~horror of horrors~~~ being at their call.
mircea_popescu: got a number to save me from fishing through the memorabilia tripod ?
mircea_popescu: if pressed i wouldn't even have imagined there were 1mn people who doi things left in the 80s us.
mircea_popescu: puts in perspective what maga has to actually accomplish.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think su ever delivered 1mn of any kind of calculating machine, since we're on it.
mircea_popescu: this has been a very informative discussion, i had nfi.
mircea_popescu: first-cleanner. then-oil. then-light cig. then put out fire.
mod6: i've been following along off and on all day.
mod6: need to get the last few hours
mircea_popescu: it's how you do military salute if you're playing excel-in-space
mircea_popescu: i dunno how active it is or anything ; but we were pretty rich if memory serves.
mod6: im about to try to load up this offline phys box with all the blocks.
mod6: wrote a perl one liner to cut them all apart with blkcut... now just gotta feed 'em in.
mod6: 15k blocks and counting
mod6: -verifyall & -caneat
mod6: box is: 24 CPU / 64Gb RAM / 1Tb Kingston SSD
mod6: lol, disk is probably going to start on fire.
mircea_popescu: a yea good point : folks plox fan your ssds when doing mass blockeat experiments etc.
mod6: i've got mine in a std enclosure and it's got a faned bp. but... if she fries, well, she fries.
mod6: a good test either way.
mircea_popescu: i had one i couldn't touch. hence keep ssds in fanned thing
mod6: this is pretty f'ing awesome, actually.
shinohai: I need a better SSD, these girls better step up their game.
mod6: there's like 180k+ blocks in blk0001.dat
mod6: i cut apart 50 .dat files. noodle on that for a minute. and these dickweeds want BIGGER blocks.
mod6: asciilifeform: got that book from pong chu
shinohai: All except lukejr, but he's just a contradictory blockhead
mod6: thx for the heads up
mod6: there's an example in here of a FIFO circular queue in verilog, neat.
mod6: mircea_popescu: cool
mod6: asciilifeform: ah, ok.
mod6: i was thinking about taking my xilinx board and seeing if I can throw your fg-genesis on there.
mod6: yeah, not sure if this one is ok...
mod6: i did get that xilinx platform cable usb deal in the mail too.
mod6: 86 +// div128, for UART's 115200b on 14.7456MHz crystal.
mod6: the chip i've got is a 'xilinx spartan XC3S500E'
mod6: looking forward to getting into this stuff a bit.
mod6: for edu purposes, etc.
mod6: when i start actually doing somethings, i'll take some pics.
mod6: i'd like to audit one of these fgs soon too.
mod6: might give that a try tomorrow
mod6: i may write up something on my website, or send something to qntra
mod6: speaking of which, my mom asked about BingoBoingo
mod6: she's been mainly 100% delirious. but in a moment of slurred-opiate semi-clarity, she asked me "hows BingoBoingo?"
mod6: ^ my reaction exactly.
mod6: yeah, she's in hospice now. they're keeping her pretty comfortable.
mod6: she was semi-lucid until friday. but been pretty much not-eating & sleeping all day since.
mod6: well, she was sleeping all day on saturday. then for a moment, she woke up, got pissed off, tried to get out of bed, fell down. then wrestled two nurses, and sucker punched one in the face.
mod6: felt so bad for the young lady. it wasn't a hard punch or anything... but still. lol.
mod6: they came over and gave her a pretty big dose of valium<sp> or whatever.
mod6: then it was back to night-night.
mod6: i think the bed alarm threw her into a rage. the thing started going off like a UPS alarm.
mod6: it was quite something to behold. here's a lady, clinging to breath, hardly moves, then gets up and fights to young women.
mod6: its something else 'eh
mod6: danielpbarron: hey, did you ever figure out whatever with your openbsd deed you were trying to do?
mod6: TomServo: any update on the issues you ran into?
TomServo: mod6: Sorry, nothing to report as yet. Node is still running, wedged, and untouched. Haven't had time to delve any deeper.
mod6: Ok, thanks for the update.
mod6: ben_vulpes: so if i have a `std::map<ktype, std::vector<vtype>> stuffMap`, is it legal to say `stuffMap[k].push_back(newV)` << should be fine as long as newV is of vtype.
shinohai: If the shitty, 4 year old hardware I run my node hasn't burnt down the house yet I'm highly optimistic for you mod6 :D
shinohai just likes shitty old computers ...
shinohai: I'm still hopeful I'll find something that'll run on that Dell I salvaged a few weeks ago.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i always wished there were such a thing as an ac with a throttle << Not throttle, needs adjustable clutch
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cocaine is the eminent example. it FEELS like it does things to you. it does not therefore HELP. << The problems with cocaine hcl powder is that in little time even that feeling goes that and you are left with only feeling of wanting moar cocaine
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i am not proposing an alternative for that function. doctor isn't in the line of proposing replacement for cocaine, and from the "i wanna feel good" perspective the whole pharmacopoea is a waste of space. << This is why CIA popularized freebase salt of cocaine
BingoBoingo: <mod6> she's been mainly 100% delirious. but in a moment of slurred-opiate semi-clarity, she asked me "hows BingoBoingo?" << I am doing well, celebrate 18 months of continuous sobriety later this month.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> compress as-needed, blow -- as-needed. << Thinking on it, AC may be the one application where CVT transmission makes sense
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> seems as if -- there could easily be. << Probably low hanging fruit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform soviets similarily denied afghani whatever, then permitted again. this suggests - empire doesn't honestly gas.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> for that particular value of worx. << The second best treatment for addiction disorders is drugs of abuse
trinque: this is the kind of thing of which you're disabused after you reach your personal tolerance of bros telling you their great business idea
trinque: might give you the will to march, but all directions seem equally great ideas
BingoBoingo: Anyways, after physical dependence is established for any drug, cessastion of drug leads to feelings of exhaustion and illness.
trinque: point was that it detunes the good-idea-inator badly
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 18:19 asciilifeform: 'packing', and brute labour of whatever other kind, also can have sensation of 'inch away', read the tales of athletes in training, alpinists, pilots.
shinohai: You don't stop giving the whores junk ......
BingoBoingo: distort thought seems to be common among stimulants, including amphetamines with the cocaine
BingoBoingo: Many crack afficianados are downright pleasant people 6 to 60 months out from smoking their last rock
BingoBoingo unsure journey from bed with morning jitters to breakfast gin quite counts as sober in the morning
trinque: only drug that ever got me was nicotine
trinque smells good tobacco, still has the anticipatory rush of "ah, my old friend"
BingoBoingo: nicotine seems to get most people, so many receptors scattered everywhere for it to hit
BingoBoingo: perhaps asciilifeform is bodily and mentally different from his fellows, is dog-cat
shinohai: Coffee+nicotine is wonder drug cocktail for me
trinque: by now aren't those just "being european" ?
shinohai: Nah, you drink first espresso shot in the morning, followed by delicious cigarette.
trinque: lady friend gave me a nice, small espresso machine while back.
BingoBoingo drinks drip brew coffee by the pot, perhaps has simply established warped relationship with beverages generally
trinque: this thing's a "Krups", old model, works great
shinohai: Somehow I imagine BingoBoingo owning one of those coffee urns like they have in funeral homes
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Not yet, but the meetings I frequent tend to be the ones with the large coffee urns over mundane 12 cup drip machine.
shinohai: I have one of those stovetop percolators for afternoon coffee, too much espresso will keep me awake long into the night.
trinque: BingoBoingo may enjoy investing in a french press; great way to brew regular coffee
trinque: things are like 15 bucks or something.
lobbes: ah I miss the ol' coffee+nicotine combo. Had to ditch the coffee half recently though; stuff doesn't agree with me anymore (and I'm only 29 O.o)
lobbes: Switched to green tea. Was hell the first few days, but now I enjoy the 'subtle yet steadier' energy boost it give me. No more 'caffine crashes'
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot Framedragger
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 4 by 4 connections.
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot shinohai
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 9 by 9 connections.
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 8 by 8 connections.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo may enjoy investing in a french press; great way to brew regular coffee << They don't make those in my size
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and welcome teh two new lords! << indeed, congrats!
mircea_popescu: i can scarcely believe how utterly fucktarded usg platforms are. it's eerie.
mircea_popescu ended up reading twitter matter, minutes later was "wtf am i reading, holy shit what is this."
mod6: everything usg is fucktarded, phony or both.
ben_vulpes: oh yeah stop wasting cycles on that shit
trinque: only use I have for it is you know, having a lol at whatever the President of the United States of America said
mod6: shinohai has some nice sluts on there though
ben_vulpes: dude realdonaldtrump is the only thing hanging off the twitter entry in imperial dns worth reading and that only for lolz and admiration of a grade a 'social media' mastery
mircea_popescu: anyway, my bad, was bitcoin "related" stuff. it's shocking identical to 5 years ago except new faces and new names.
mod6: well, 188k+ and into blk0002 now...
mod6: lobbes: np! glad it helped.
deedbot: dm0n voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: ^ SSH-1.99-HUAWEI-1.5 & SSH-1.99-DOPRA-1.5 (respectively), heh
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 02:29 asciilifeform: 'As an open source project, the Yocto Project operates with a hierarchical governance structure based on meritocracy and managed by its chief architect, Richard Purdie, a Linux Foundation fellow. This enables the project to remain independent of any one of its member organizations, who participate in various ways and provide resources to the project.'
shinohai wonders if Chihuahuas generated the keys ......
a111: Logged on 2017-04-11 04:30 mircea_popescu: and welcome teh two new lords!
Framedragger: i'd offer to go for a beer shinohai but unfortunately no portals yet. :/ sad!
shinohai: A virtual vino will have to suffice, cheers! [~]D
mod6: hey shinohai, how goes?
mircea_popescu: "21 matches in 678 log files with 138047 lines (1.5 seconds)." << from lobbes 's logotron. "10 entries in 0.482s" from phf 's logotron. i imagine this log is about 10x as long, how the fuck do you do it phf!
mircea_popescu: must be. i wanna look into this one because it is impressive.
shinohai: Good here mod6, abt to check node logs how is yours running today?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect 1.4mn lines is actually an understatement re trilema logs, afaik he imported the history, should be 2x that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulzy bit being that Framedragger didn't even implement a search yet, though he has the psql right there :D
mod6: shinohai: good, 235k+ and counting. on blk0004 now.
mircea_popescu: who else was having a log ? i recall a 3rd, was it ben_vulpes ?
Framedragger: shots fired, i will see if i can find time to implement search using pg full text search :)
mircea_popescu is in awe of the mighty power of the republic, that enchanted space where meaningful comparisons can actually occur, and inform.
Framedragger: fwiw when i was running searchable tor metrics db (>= 80GB tho would need to check) and had search there, it ran ~fine~, including wildcard support.
trinque still basking in the "oh but yes, we want a standard library of data structures and persistence strategies"
mircea_popescu: as you perhaps imagine, mp will readily turn the ratchet the other way, "Hey phf, i thought lisp worked ?" etc.
ben_vulpes: only runs through whenever mimi was jointed to a channel
a111: Logged on 2017-01-27 20:21 ben_vulpes: logs and search will at the least provide interesting lessons in postgres design and optimization. writing my own disqus, not so much.
ben_vulpes: only does tits for #trilema, #trilema-mod6, #eulora...
shinohai: "blocks" : 382067 <<< I think my ethernet cable is a dud or something, I keep dropping connection the past few days to router.
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: curious, is this using pg full text search (including taking care of tokenising etc)?
mircea_popescu: trinque you gotta understand, up to a certain point i do enjoy executive priviledges that make it easier for me, but nevertheless up to a different point you don't express yourself too well.
mircea_popescu: and unrelatedly, ancient romanian joke : what are the similarities between dog and engineer ?
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: tokenization and strict search work at odds to each other
ben_vulpes: the fts indices are still sitting there unused.
Framedragger: right, right :) hm i suppose i'd like to do some semantic matching as well, but maybe unneeded dickwaving
Framedragger: the genesis of gender in biology is indeed interesting
mircea_popescu: you reading up on the wolbachia thing ? it's not, ftr, the genesis of gender. it's just the first revolutionizing thereof.
Framedragger: actually haven't, just recall searching around when you referred to it. kk. :)
Framedragger vaguely recalls some theory based on algae. will check laters
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah, I'd be better off disengaging once past the point of wanting to have the thread at all
mircea_popescu: trinque that's more like damage control than anything. you'd be better off not ending up in that point eh.
Framedragger: explain (analyze, buffers) would tell if it's just hitting cache
shinohai: I already have my girl claimed on pages of trilema
mircea_popescu: and since nobody's taking the bait : similarities between dog and engineer : both have intelligent eyes and neither can express itself.
danielpbarron: oh i thought the "add dicks to it later" line was the punchline to the joke
a111: Logged on 2015-11-05 22:07 ascii_field spins, like turtle
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes mebbe noob, but i can't figure it from the paste. so 40kb of ram and 66 hits but how many total lines or index items or w/e it sifted through ?
Framedragger: that particular query had to sift through 93749 seems like
ben_vulpes: 93k in the whole log table, 62k of #trilema entries
mircea_popescu: right it's right there on re-read, rows removed by filter
mircea_popescu: trinque btw don't get deterred, we do want deedbot wallet before any kind of deeds search.
trinque still on it, has a related item coming from pcengines sometime later this month
CompanionCube: remind me why it's so bad for a somewhat-cute poo plush toy to exist?
CompanionCube: if people want to buy it, let them. There's no harm in it's existence.
shinohai: I'm not saying it's bad at all, just happened to recall said girl owned one, had her send selfie to demonstrate.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-05 03:56 asciilifeform: as it is, half the planet toils so that u.s. schmucks can get tankers full of little orange plastic pumpkins every october to hang on their porch
CompanionCube: shinohai: true, but the original message kinda implies it imo
shinohai: I'll buy the girl whatever physical emoji garbage she likes as long as she continues to get naked to pose with said items.
trinque: ought to be made to snuggle an actual turd if she asks for one of those things
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno pvc molding takes thatmany hands.
mircea_popescu: yes. and a good way to judge what % of world hands are involved would be to divide the aggregate cost by the aggregate world gdp.
shinohai: !~google aggregate cost of plush turds
ben_vulpes: hey i didn't know the swiss gave up the peg
Framedragger: random thing re ^ is that *for some reason*, a huge bunch of polish folks had bank loans in swiss franc. because "switzerland stable, good country for banking", something something. when swiss franc inflated by *a whole lot* vs. the zloty, they weren't exactly exalted. :/ kinda lulzy thought process must have been
Framedragger: (inflated right after being de-pegged, that is)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amuysingly enough, since both fiat figures are made for the same purpose through the same process, their ratio is probably closer to reality than not.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger not just polish, ro also. i mocked it at length on trilema.
ben_vulpes: linked piece has some charts showing more or less what one'd expect to see
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people dun generally want to drop the hand once it becomes obvious it can't win, because reasons. it was obvious re swiss once they "agreed" to drop bank secrecy. it was obvious re trump once he "agreed" to promote niggers. etcetera.
mircea_popescu: anyway, macroeconomically speaking i fully expect us to enact trade barrier simply because the us population is desperate for some protection. if it CANT buy the chinese crap because it's not allowed it gets to not buy it ; if it can it has to come up with some way to justify not buying it on its own and it's way too dumb, soft and useless for that. so in this perspective tariffs are +ev politically.
deedbot: airgapped voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: much like the cock cage on the impotent middle aged man. saves him a middle age crisis -- it's not that it dun get up, it safely can't so all is well.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah. talking about the "director of national intelligence" and "chairman of joint chiefs of staff"
ben_vulpes: spoiler alert: ai can't in2 dicks afaict
trinque: it thought my naked chick was a koala
shinohai: Me neither, part of the fun cooking -even with no wife - is sourcing fresh ingerdients.
mircea_popescu: an attempt to have fun is how one starts on the long and winding primrose path of self radicalization
diana_coman: well, that doesn't sound like it's meant for cooking; it's meant for pretending to be cooking without actually cooking as it were; quite the elaborate pretence, but that's not new anymore
diana_coman: quite; the next step in this company's quest for market domination and all sorts of successeses will probably be a "re-thinking of the box so that the customer can just push a button and the ingredients jump into their place in the pan" - for those who want to cook but don't want the hassle of dealing with pans and pots
mircea_popescu: 1. girl introduced me to local chick who hjas a job she hates and tries to study "metaphysics" which she explains as "life" and "healing". basically a large pile of hooey (she has the disadvantage of being black , which comes packaged with a bunch of stupid fat old women and their self-sufficient notions of "life" and "healing", tribal bullshit that should have been extirpated by whip and fire but apparently wasnt).
mircea_popescu: 2. she never heard of kirkegaard, she never heard of sartre, SHE NEVER HEARD OF KANT. girl goes TO SCHOOL for this shit.
mircea_popescu: 3. after this bizarre situation, walking downtown with same girl, we went past library, where i pointed out book by roland barthes, and said "buy it and gift it her".
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: one could skip the whole jump-into-pan step and ship everything in barely-there al 'cookware'
mircea_popescu: 4. that returned this morning. the results are as follows : the library consists of a first half that's packing paper, shiny beads and well wishing cards
shinohai: Or just buy a damned TV dinner.
diana_coman: no, no, no shinohai you don't get it; the whole point is to NOT LOOK like a tv dinner
mircea_popescu: 4.1. there is a philosophy section, taking 1/8 of one shelf, or ~0.625% of all floor space
mircea_popescu: 4.2. the philosophy section IS NOT SORTED ALPHABETICALLY
diana_coman: but to be as close to that - preferably precisely that ,of course
shinohai: diana_coman: So maybe individually wrap the ingredients and ship them in a box along with a microwavable pan and instructions of which dividers to put them in
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, and this is the kicker : 4.4. a book of "painting masters -- paint cezanne by the numbers" WAS included.
mircea_popescu: they also had picasso. shockingly missing, waterhouse. because totally, there's anyone else i'd wanna do in crayons.
diana_coman: eh; were the books ordered by ...height? did they look pretty on the shelf?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman reportedly theyt looked like the result of a crashed failvan.
diana_coman: come to think about it (and recollecting sad childhood adventures with public libraries in home land) - it might have been that the library is simply cobbled together from whatever gets donated or is found in the street, who knows
mircea_popescu: incientally by now "Wrongly inclined book" is ~= "imbecility in writing". there was a time when english style spines were promising. today, it's guaranteed to be some nonsense a la blue apron / fingerpaint cezanne
diana_coman: o.O what passes for small bookstore there then?
jhvh1: Pay no attention to that man behind the GET
scriba: jhvh1: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request; Retry over RFC 1149.
jhvh1: scriba: Error: "HTTP/1.1" is not a valid command.
scriba: mircea_popescu: HTTP/1.1 404 Tits not found.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger why exactly is scriba reacting to non !$ strings ? eh ?
Framedragger: :o PROTOCOL MISBEHAVIOUR, i shall endeavour to fix that m'lord.
mircea_popescu: the whole "make your bot only respond to x" thing is a fine proxy for "make linux kernel only respond to x" hardness.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i tried to think of a diagonal argument along the fashion of "if you make it conform to that narrow spec, the conformance itself is an additional statement which needs a larger spec, which in turn needs a larger spec, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO INSANE WITH INFINITY";
shinohai: Misbehaving as well, twas testing something sorry for the chanspam
Framedragger: but that requires me to actually be able to do math, so no-go.
shinohai: mircea_popescu brings up good point I just noticed I overlooked, because:
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mircea_popescu: PRIVMSG #trilema :jhvh1: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request; Retry over RFC 1149.
Framedragger: (just fyi, mkj (which hosts scriba; separate from siphnos which hosts scan data, phuctor cache, etc.) is going down soon for maintenance, but downtime shouldn't exceed 15min)