shinohai: Not anyone in their right mind, or maybe they need TradeFortress to reappear and inculcate that lesson again.
mircea_popescu: whole shebang's like one of those scottish "castles", worth maybe 50k for the stone and negative however millions for its unfunded obligations
mircea_popescu: in yahoo's case, all the shitheads running around thinking them,selves experts and entitled to salaries
shinohai finds it interesting that *all these hacks* have occurred under Marissa Mayer at helm.
shinohai: "She won't break the glass ceiling. she'll just leave the building unlocked!"
mircea_popescu: prostitution is when you get paid. melissa meyer is when you do it for free.
phf: before tumblr mayogendered there was a tumblr weird internet culture, thatused to post porn, internet explorer running on windows 98 screenshots, weird 3d renderings, porn, lisp screenshots, etc. basically the whole scene got destroyed by mayer with the whole "all porn is now marked as nsfw and force removed from all the search results". the weirdest, shoot-self-in-foot
mircea_popescu: o btw, check out the cognates : (more, less) > (mayor, lawyer)
mircea_popescu: but yes, you correctly identify a hidden reference in my linkage
phf: yeah, but as a "porn only" niche, tumblrs that would occasionally post porn mixed with random other found junk all disappeared
mircea_popescu: sorta obama, but in "woman" rather than "black" theme.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have never hated a people, or anything, even vaguely in the same ballpark as i hate these mutant retardoids.
mircea_popescu: if i could glass it right now, i'd glass it right now,
mircea_popescu: i don't think you grok the basics. which is understandable - nobody does.
phf: asciilifeform: is it matte?
mircea_popescu: let me indulge your sweet ignorance. the sidewalks here are paved, which is stupid but whatever. ALL curbs contain bumped tiles all around. it drives women nuts because anti-heels landimine.
mircea_popescu: for a long time we thought they were idiots in the sense, "it's for securidad - anti ice". except it never ices.
mircea_popescu: today, two years later, we finally figured what they're REALLY for :
mircea_popescu: the locals are such utter imbeciles, without those things they'd walk right into traffic. THEY DO NOT KNOW road is a thing.
mircea_popescu: you know those bumpers on speedway for sleepy truck drivers ? that. except for mouthbreathing bipedals.
mircea_popescu: and this isn't the end of it, or the peak of it. this is just a random example out of an endless pile.
mircea_popescu: it was recently established that the best mental model for "wtf they're doing" is : if they've not seen/heard of a thing in the past two days, THEY UTTERLY FORGOT IT EXISTS.
mircea_popescu: perfectly fits the universal pattern of missed deliveries/meetings/etc.
mircea_popescu: i firmly believe that most of the employment turnover here is, long weekend, after which people literally forget they worked there.
mircea_popescu: egypt had an intensity of making a living you've not seen since jewish ghettos.
mircea_popescu: argentina appears a manufactured africa. not dumb by evaporation, but dumb from selective fractionation. apparently all the idiots came here. worst of italians, which is already pretty well selected for fail etc
mircea_popescu: basically argentina the country is the statal equivalent of the us profession of lawyer.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-14 23:49 shinohai: Roger Ver: "But a bunch of bitcoin supporters don't like centralized web wallets? That's crazy talk."
http://archive.is/GHUXj mod6: as far as broken moduli? or dups?
mod6: I'll say 1431 b0rk3d moduli.
mod6: lol, that's probably gonna be way low, but i'll stick with it.
mod6: yeah, certainly could be. i guess i wasn't initially thinking about the SSH keys.
mircea_popescu: of course nopt much of a bet, someojne could just make 1mn bad mods and pump them in.
mircea_popescu: o noes! but how could this be! open source is a viable model! with a billion fly eyes, all weak mods are shallow! clinton 2016!
mircea_popescu: i'm getting into a very "code sharing good ; open source bad" mood over here.
mircea_popescu: "code should be made available for review to any user ~of the appropriate fame level~"!
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess pete_dushenski wins that interest rate bet ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Difficulty up, yellen tries to premept?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i haven't won quite yet. i let ben_vulpes change the time window to only include trump's exact and official term, not the transition period, so jan 20 and four years onwards.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: lol watch that they set it at 8.75 on jan 19th and then spend a decade shashing monotonously to 4.25
pete_dushenski: well, not the only one ofc. you're also one, stan idem. then there's adlai and i dunno who else we can annoint with the honourary distinction.
pete_dushenski: except for the whole "jews are niggars are enemies" angle, which i haven't quite resolved for myself yet
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: No matches found.
mircea_popescu: terrrribly sorry to tell you sir we here at mp house got all cock parts. striiictly full penis.
mats: i wish i was born into a jewish family
mats: being a chinese jew would be useful i bet
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: where does this tiny jewdick meme originate ? i can't say it, um, measures up with anectodal experience.
pete_dushenski: mats: my younger brother had the priviledge of betting a chijew on trip to eretz israel. they exist.
mats: how many dongs were involved in your survey, pete_dushenski
mircea_popescu: the pact of the covenant or some shit ? you know, where they cut bits off babies.
pete_dushenski: mats: lol. at full attention : 1 in-the-flesh. which is really the only way to tell anything. seen tons in whatever camp shower but doesn't tell you much.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ok but haircuts don't make you shorter. even going bald doesn't shrink a man, though a correlation obv exists with advanced age.
phf: i read somewhere that at some point china top sellers were books like "how to raise a child like a jew" etc.
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid my hair was like 5% of my height and i got pix to prove it!
pete_dushenski: lol. being chinese is so fucking opposite of being a jew i don't even know where to start. number 1 selling book in nigeria might as well be "how to raise child like a norwegian"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i also have a solid 2" added to height atm. 'manbun'.
pete_dushenski: so musk named to trump advisory panel. too soon to declare tod on tesla perhaps. or trump has short squeeze on full blast.
mircea_popescu: he does a lot of this "name everyone, use half". republican dork on capitol hill also named, s.b.'s aide.\
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ah those are the journajews. << Like mouse can mean "quiet girl with glasses" or actual vermin
phf: "And when they discover he is Jewish? “The Chinese think we are the smartest people in the world, after the Chinese,” he said. “They say, ‘Very clever, very good at business.’ It’s an honor to be Jewish in China. They say they would like to imitate the Jews.” Among the best-selling books in China this year were “The Jewish People’s Bible for Business and Managing the World” and “The Jewish Way of Raising Children.”"
mod6: they're saying -24 deg. F/-31 deg. C here on Saturday :/
mod6: too cold to shoot birds even!
BingoBoingo: OMG, almost at the -40 convergence point mod6
mod6: when it gets that cold for a number of days or whatever, getting back up to 0 feels nice!
pete_dushenski: mod6: and if you don't plug your cars in or park in a (preferably heated) garage, it's uber-ville for you.
pete_dushenski was rather annoyed that his fleet wouldn't start during recent cold snap. fists were shaken.
mod6: yeah, it usually helps to plug 'em in, especially if it gets down below -25 deg. F.
mod6: anyone with antifreeze
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's usually the battery, not the engine.
mircea_popescu: hm. i dunno man, cold start in -20 ambient was a solved problem in the 90s.
mircea_popescu: mah old mercs never had the issue. of course... diesel. but certainly only shitty chino batteries froze.
mod6: so, the batteries don't do that great in the cold. but the real problem is the antifreeze. plugging in the blockwarmer runs current through the antifreeze so it won't freeze.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: -20 is no prob. it's -30 or -40 with windchill that's the issue, even with old merc.
mod6: when my old man was a kid, out on the farm he would put hot coals from a fire under the oil pan in like a '40 pickup to get the oil viscous enough to crank it over when it was cold like that.
pete_dushenski: thankfully there is a splendid and ultra-cheap service called 'ama' here and they'll boost even the most frozen cars with what must be 1000amps, up to 5x per year for $80
mod6: i hope they flood the rinks this week.
pete_dushenski: ya, never needed it till this winter when i lost my beloved u/g heated parking. still adapting.
mod6: nice. i need a new stick, then I'm ready.
mod6: if you try to flood the rink when it's -25 like that, the ice will turn out too brittle and get this weird horizontal fracturing... coming off in like sheets.
mod6: but if they do it like now at 0, then give it a chance to go into the deep cold, you'll end up with reall excellent hard ice.
mod6: yeah, i hope they're out there tonight.
mod6: i always wanted to moonlight as a zamboni driver
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 0 'religion' other than 'stalin is god' too.
mod6: pete_dushenski: yeah, i can imagine that florida has horrible ice.
mod6: im sure it has probably a lot more to do with how they operate the refrigeration system than anything
mod6: air temp in the arena matters too.
mod6: and if you're not willing to spend the cash on the air cooling, that can make problems.
phf has a reasonable open rink a block away
phf: not sure what they do to it, but pretty sure they can run it in summer
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: it was a time of 'progress'. old traditions had to be downgraded. ex nihilo 'traditions' upgraded.
pete_dushenski: probably an experiment in seeing if socialists could still be manufaktured without choppychop.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: are you talking georgia us or caucasus ?
mod6: The Atlanta Flames moved to Calgary in like 1980...
mod6: they've had hockey down there for quite a while
jhvh1: mod6: Error: "tlsb" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: mod6: Time since last block: 33 minutes and 59 seconds
mod6: tomorrow is supposed to be 83 in BA.
mod6: that sounds so nice
mod6: nice day for a walk down past the canal to the park.
phf: mircea_popescu: "take everything out of Might and Personality/Intelligence respectively, pump up Personality/Intelligence respectively and Speed" is that what it's supposed to say?
mircea_popescu: cleric needs personality doesn't need int and sorc vice-versa. so that respectively works magic.
phf: mircea_popescu: did you have to install any of the original windows blob dlls to make graphics not-screwy?
mircea_popescu: use wine 1.9 series though. are you using it via play on linux scriptage ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-15 02:29 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i haven't won quite yet. i let ben_vulpes change the time window to only include trump's exact and official term, not the transition period, so jan 20 and four years onwards.
phf: nope, on mac, which might be my undoing
phf: yeah, i was trying to use straight wine, but there's apparently "play on mac"
mircea_popescu: ah. well make sure your wine's over 1.6 or so, pre that their vc emulation is ~shit.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes nah, see i ~let~ you pretend that it's still 1860 and that it takes the president-elect 75 goddam days to travel from his midwest farm to dc, instead of, y'know, the president-elect having his own boeing 737. the trumpreich started in the wee hours of november 9th 2016 regardless of when he takes the keys to the new shack. i just thought i'd give you every chance there was, including narrowing the
pete_dushenski: time frame a smidge. my first draft was every bit as correct, if not moreso in regards to the commencement of his influence on markets. trump ain't rollin' in no horse 'n' buggy and no one's waiting to read about his acceptance speech via pony express. it's 2016 dawg and news travels like you wouldn't believe.
pete_dushenski: "In October Duterte compared himself to Adolf Hitler and said he would be “happy to slaughter” three million drug addicts. He later apologised for the Hitler reference but said he was “emphatic” about wanting to kill the millions of addicts. Since his election, police have reported killing 2,086 people in anti-drug operations. More than 3,000 others have been killed in unexplained circumstances,
ben_vulpes: lmk when i don't have to pay for useless insurance any more
ben_vulpes: or, even better, when there is only *national* ins corp
ben_vulpes: my northern friends have such fond things to say about their local statal monopoly
ben_vulpes: meanwhile portland gets 3 inches of snow and omg people sitting on freeways for 5+ hours
pete_dushenski: sounds like the whole town forgot to put winter tires on their bikes.
ben_vulpes: this car was thirty thousand dollars it can handle a little snow okay
pete_dushenski: g-wagen idem. or wait, you cascadians only drive subarus and teslas eh.
mircea_popescu: the car can handle a little snow just liek the cunt can handle a little octopus
phf: oh i just needed to switch it to software rendering. it's still smooth af but all the artifacts are gone
phf: nah, just wanted to play mm7 on my mac. if i was building nostalgiatron, i'd just put a windows 95 on it, tbh. if i don't put an x60 to good use, i might just that to it
phf: oh, blarg. well there's a range of late 90s laptops on ebay still. i'm not sure if i'm ready to spend time on the whole
phf: "authentic replication"
phf: i'm not sure i have any that fit the sweet spot of "beefy machine from 2001"
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
phf: that's the thing, once it starts pushing 3+ hours for setup i'd rather be hacking on cmucl or similar
phf: only reason i'm trying mm7 is because setup seemed easy (and it is. stock wine 1.9 works in software rendering)
phf: fwiw play on mac scripts didn't add anything except for a dodgy point and click interface that downloads a bunch of stuff i don't need. game still doesn't play well with native rendering. i suspect tha some specific binary blob version of directx (or precursor?) will solve the issue, but...
mircea_popescu: eh no real need for hardware acceleration on the old games anyway
Framedragger: (numbers in filenames and internal line order maps to openpgp files i gave you, fwiw)
☟︎ Framedragger: (format in TXTs is simple CSV: ipv4address,banner -- the latter may contain spaces, commas etc, but any surrounding whitespace (incl newlines) is stripped. there's only one banner per ipv4 even though *same* scan sometimes returned multiple (slightly different, e.g. includes or excludes OS string) banners.)
Framedragger: (the criterion for choosing which banner to report is a simple "max string length.") (again, note, all of those "multiple" banners were from a single scan event, same date, so no historical knowledge is lost by only reporting single banner per single (ip,port) pair.) hope this makes sense.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, same here, fairly curious re. unique versionstring numbers, etc...
Framedragger: (note, some of those version strings contain OS string, some of them don't; these TXTs store versionstrings-as-they-were-seen, without any ssh-server/OS version separation.)
Framedragger: fwiw i plan to make these available through a search interface - will put stuff into db. i think i'll make it so that one can link to particular db entry via that deterministic-alf-fingerprint you concocted
Framedragger: so no need for this (but obvs would be cool, too)
mircea_popescu: alrighty, lettuce see what gems lie in the data oncle Framedragger has provied.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: (mkj.lt is different server from siphnos.mkj.lt)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-20 23:28 Framedragger: the *banners.txt's are my partial cleanup, *_err_scan.log's are the original stderr's (with some junk in them). but i will clean this myself later. and siphnos.mkj.lt is where i'll host phuctor-related data. (it's on a separate unused vps, got an 'ok' from $work for now.)
mircea_popescu: do you happen to have handy also link to the original discussion in july that lead to you scanning ?
Framedragger: (ah no need to -excludeterms in btcbase search i guess :p )
Framedragger: i accidentally overwrote legit log file with `tar cfz` like 20min ago
a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 17:53 mircea_popescu: also, anyone want to run a ssh server key spider ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 18:03 Framedragger: "also, anyone want to run a ssh server key spider ?" << heh, k, i'm up for this, might as well be useful while i brood
Framedragger: (i should write down some stuff before i forget, such as, figuring out ssh-keyscan limits etc.; luckily i wasn't dumb enough to delete any scripts written etc...)
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 13189523 + 2456665 = 15646188
mircea_popescu: Framedragger interestingly enough dropbear official git mirror is in mkj/dropbear
Framedragger: (a friend sysadmin and google dude uses mkj.lt, too, but this would be quite amusing)
Framedragger: ("mkj" is a pretty random acronym of the first names of three people who started up the server in ~2008)
mircea_popescu: in other news my god grep -i is a lot slower than grep plain
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: meatwot says congratulations on fuckgoats
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: i'll be there probably in January. ugh not looking forward to driving in that shit.
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: it'll be gone in a week
mod6: i like how the guy couldn't keep it out of the ditch even with chains on the tires.
ben_vulpes: mod6: i figured you in particular would appreciate the ineptitude on display
mod6: ben_vulpes: indeed, there's like 1.5" of snow on the ground.
mod6: where it does get a bit hairy is when you're going down the freeway with over 6+"
phf: heh, just noticed that my glyf.org is in the banners list, with a rather embarrassingly verbose banner
mircea_popescu: this might be the most covering census ever published. ~everything else seems to go by the "we sampled 500 here and 500 there - if it's good enough to guess your president it should be good enough for the net too!"
phf: hmm, when i wc -l stuff in s1_banners.tar.gz i only get 13189523 records, where'd the other 1: 2456665
shinohai: " segregated witness data shall not be counted in determining block sizes for the purposes of this bet. "
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: from peterl in contravex comments : "I could be wrong (have not ordered one yet myself), but isn't the cardano a sub-piece of the FUCKGOATS? So they are delivering a bigger, more complex, more useful item (but later) than what they originally planned to sell?" i must say i missed this difference b/w fuckgoats and cardano as well. i guess i'd assumed that the latter'd been renamed to the former
pete_dushenski: o ? but they're still one in the same physical object, yes ?
phf: magic artifact from our own tmsr wizard, cures boils and sours milk
☟︎ pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm maybe i'm still confused. what's being vice-versa'd exactly ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-15 23:38 phf: magic artifact from our own tmsr wizard, cures boils and sours milk
jhvh1: Last 1 lines bashed and pending publication
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the original planned item (cardano) was an over-engineered, incorrectly defined, too broad and too complex toaster-and-shoe-shiner.
mircea_popescu: this is not directly obvious from a theoretical view. a major reason why defensive business management and practical engineering pay off is that you get to catch this sort of thing and fix it.
mircea_popescu: fuckgoats is basically one part of the original cardano, specifically, the one actually worth making, turned up to 11.
mircea_popescu: the above three lines took 3 years of thinking to produce ; this in preference of $3mn or worse.
mircea_popescu: ah alf, remember the happy days a few years ago when we actually thought gpg ~= pgp ?
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.