mircea_popescu: "muieblackcat is script/bot, supposedly of Ukrainian origin, that attempts to exploit PHP vulnerabilities or misconfigurations." << clearly, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-24#1728387☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-24 21:47 asciilifeform: i pictured them as ro equiv of ukrs approx
shinohai: http://archive.is/HfUof <<< " Emin Gun Sirer, a Cornell University associate professor in the computer science department who is a Tezos technical adviser, said he continues to believe the network is still “technically sound.”
mircea_popescu: lol the promising young turk got his ass pretty well loosened on this one, huh.
mircea_popescu: hopefully he has younger brothers, i can't imagine what possible use he can still be the usg turkfucker department.
mircea_popescu: shinohai tell him from me not making tenure "fucking sucks" from what i hear.
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/ << The Whet - A Compendium of Possibly Helpful Stuffs for Erecting Mircea Popescu's WordPress with Nearly Free Speech Hosting
mircea_popescu: o hey.
BingoBoingo: In other polls, NFL is no longer 'Murica's favorite ball league. Replaced by MLB, which is more multicultural in far less politically convenient way for pantsuit.
mircea_popescu: awww
mircea_popescu: jew coverage as to how this is concerning but doesn't matter and people still give a shit about them abundent enough ?
mircea_popescu: they may be slow on the uptake, but their owners are not. a franchise is 100% made out of sucking the right cock, and pantsuitism just turned clitty.
BingoBoingo: Jew coverage on this is "OMG inspirational Houston vs Perennial almost good LA finally being good World Series bringing attention to baseball"
BingoBoingo: And no coverage of "working Hispanics wanna see Make Great Great Again"
mircea_popescu: too many words.
mircea_popescu: i suppose its hard for a jew to grok the wordcount point.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course too many words. They can't be direct. Violates pantsuit principal of alway covering girl floor with fabric.
mircea_popescu: aha
BingoBoingo: Can't let the girl smells escape and excite or disgust the menfolk depending on age and condition of girl floor
BingoBoingo: In other learnings of the day, apparently "language schools" can qualify persons for student visas in Brazil where 10X hour course translates to X month visa.
mircea_popescu: nb
BingoBoingo: Cost of language school is to be determined. But it never hurts to meet people outside of work. Compatibility of language school visa and administering an EIRELI to be determined, but it allows presence in the country and less butt probes than business visa from the view so far.
BingoBoingo: For gringo EIRELI requires 150,000 Reals of registered capital to establish, but is reading as an actually sole proprietor limited liability vehicle. That amount still comes with "plan to employ two Brazialians requirement" but virtual knocking on lawyer doors.
BingoBoingo: And in still other news, SWAT team and feds were in town over what was apparently a very methy stabbing.
BingoBoingo: http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article180607516.html#navlink=Lead
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in Lafondistan http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=653
BingoBoingo: And in almost there http://www.vdare.com/posts/black-identity-extremists-nyt-is-spitting-mad-that-trumps-fbi-understands-sapir-whorf
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5538.22, vol: 15423.61062939 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5530.0, vol: 51664.38519479 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5578.0, vol: 5232.97486898 | Volume-weighted last average: 5535.22621405
BingoBoingo: https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10005
BingoBoingo: And apparently the latest favorite to be 2020's attempt at Hussein Bahamas II is Deval Patrick.
BingoBoingo: And from the truly WTF mines http://www.liveinbrazil.org/2012/08/10/brazilian-people/#comment-12300
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-24#1728338 << in my experience with guitar, frequency is more important for muscle memory building (and general finger strength building). I've found that even 5 minutes per day tends to be more effective than, say, a single 2 hour session per week☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-24 21:29 ben_vulpes: one month on guitar, one on ru is sorta my pattern there
lobbes: "You learn while you sleep" or something along those lines. Maybe "you compile while you sleep" is more apt
lobbes: BingoBoingo aha. Deval the former choco-gubner of taxachusetts. Fits the bill, I can see it
davout: there's this, and also the necessity of learning new things, very often people get stuck playing the same things, which mostly reinforces defects, instead of seeking new and different stuff to work on for a bit
BingoBoingo: As we referred to him watching drunk election returns in 2006 (It was college), The Black Deval
BingoBoingo: davout: AHA, drilling portugues is improving my palavras de espanol but butchering my spanish pronunciation
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-22#1727578 <<< probably depends on which direction their exchange rate is going☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 01:15 hanbot: i don't know what the actual time threshold is tbh. clearly longer than 15 mins tho.
davout: language mixing is a thing for me too, i sounded like an absolute retard trying to speak dutch after one year of full-time english
BingoBoingo: Ah, well it doesn't help Spanish's cause that Portugues consonants are much easier for my lazy middle western tongue
lobbes: <davout> there's this, and also the necessity of learning new things, very often people get stuck playing the same things, which mostly reinforces defects, instead of seeking new and different stuff to work on for a bit << this makes sense. Explains why I notice my improvising getting 'stale' after a few consecutive days of practicing only to be 'revitalized' after a break. Almost helps to clear that mental buffer of 'go-to musical phrases'
lobbes: every so often
mircea_popescu: lobbes daily is the key of human activity. if you're not doing something daily, you can't properly say you're doing it.
mircea_popescu: whatever it may be, working out to be a boxer, reading poetry, picking your nose. daily or getout.
BingoBoingo: Which is why "We diditReddits" are "dreamers"
mircea_popescu: eh, those poor schmucks...
BingoBoingo: Only thing they do daily, other than abusive attempts at self love
shinohai: Even tho mircea_popescu gave me that God account, i spend little time on reddit:/
mircea_popescu: !!up shpx
deedbot: shpx voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: shpx do me the courtesy and stop join/parting.
BingoBoingo discovered EIRELI and investor's visa apparently mutually exclusive
BingoBoingo: Looks like it's time to chat up OkCupid and camhos
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728494 << this is neato; but otoh, welcome to asciilifeform's 'won't load by ip' kolhoz☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 02:39 deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/ << The Whet - A Compendium of Possibly Helpful Stuffs for Erecting Mircea Popescu's WordPress with Nearly Free Speech Hosting
asciilifeform: but yes it is pretty straightforward.
asciilifeform: hint for hanbot et al : use midnight commander's ssh mounter .
asciilifeform: ( can edit, copy, move, diff, etc remote files over ssh, beats the shit out of trad scp unless you're doing something automated )
mircea_popescu: msg chanserv OP #trilema
mircea_popescu: !!up heha
deedbot: heha voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: !~poll would you have sex with this midget http://s28.postimg.org/gglszr5jx/40573351_23.jpg ?
phf: a lulzy phishing attempt got through my spam filter http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fr8gO/?raw=true
phf: the address that they want payment already had two .055 transactions, so quite possibly people are biting https://blockchain.info/address/12SvNEQq1y2gffUpJCGtwgzjjgDrZVor6L drained into https://blockchain.info/address/1HA7Qe2LCq7mb2YVewpM2PCA1dsjWN3MhE
shinohai: http://archive.is/MGFQB <<<Achtung! To a Thousand-Year Reich! [~]D
mod6: pff
mod6: hola
shinohai: k tal mod6
mod6: nada mucho!
mod6: !!up jessie_
deedbot: jessie_ voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: hai jessie
jessie_: hello
jessie_: so, i will keep plain and simple: if I wake up bound with a thick rope on a table, find out that i'm kidnapped, then some angry and sadic russian appears and yells to me "give me the private keys or i'll cut off your dick". What is the most effective exit move aimed to keep both the btc and the possibility to happily ejaculate again?
lobbes: "I will know when u read this letter, I put
lobbes: special tracking pixel in it. This time is sufficiently only to finish all
lobbes: verifications and transaction, so you have to think rapidly."
lobbes: goddamn this client's line-breaks
lobbes: but pretty lulzy phf
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728564 << cyanide tooth☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 15:01 jessie_: so, i will keep plain and simple: if I wake up bound with a thick rope on a table, find out that i'm kidnapped, then some angry and sadic russian appears and yells to me "give me the private keys or i'll cut off your dick". What is the most effective exit move aimed to keep both the btc and the possibility to happily ejaculate again?
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, save the last round in the chamber for yerself
asciilifeform: or what, jessie_ , you wanted a magic pill with 0 down side ?
asciilifeform: this is not particularly different scenario from 'gimme the location of artillery battery or will cut off yer nuts' from last century or whenever
asciilifeform: !#s coke machine
a111: 73 results for "coke machine", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=coke%20machine
asciilifeform: ^ see also threads.
asciilifeform: and wai a russian!!?! this is sexiprivilegiraciacist!111
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heningerlandia, http://archive.is/iA4rk >> 'Traffic from any VPN using FortiOS 4.3.0 to FortiOS 4.3.18 can be decrypted by a passive network adversary...' etc
asciilifeform: ^ another probable phuctor crib
asciilifeform: it mildly annoys asciilifeform that he provided these vermin with a self-setting table cloth for years on end
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform's timis photoset is nao toobig for just 1 ps0t, will prolly turn into N-part series
mircea_popescu: !!up jessie_
deedbot: jessie_ voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728554 << 0.21 nao!☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 13:46 phf: the address that they want payment already had two .055 transactions, so quite possibly people are biting https://blockchain.info/address/12SvNEQq1y2gffUpJCGtwgzjjgDrZVor6L drained into https://blockchain.info/address/1HA7Qe2LCq7mb2YVewpM2PCA1dsjWN3MhE
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: sup
asciilifeform: much, but i'ma keeping log spittle to min.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728554 << no beggar who wasn't a retard from california on his first day out "public arts"ing ever put down an alms bowl without some money in it.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 13:46 phf: the address that they want payment already had two .055 transactions, so quite possibly people are biting https://blockchain.info/address/12SvNEQq1y2gffUpJCGtwgzjjgDrZVor6L drained into https://blockchain.info/address/1HA7Qe2LCq7mb2YVewpM2PCA1dsjWN3MhE
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728564 << ejaculation is over-rated.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 15:01 jessie_: so, i will keep plain and simple: if I wake up bound with a thick rope on a table, find out that i'm kidnapped, then some angry and sadic russian appears and yells to me "give me the private keys or i'll cut off your dick". What is the most effective exit move aimed to keep both the btc and the possibility to happily ejaculate again?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728579 << gotta love how it's always "this usg agency scammed you, because it was called mp global AND NOT BECAUSE IT WAS AN USG AGENCY!!11"☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 16:13 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heningerlandia, http://archive.is/iA4rk >> 'Traffic from any VPN using FortiOS 4.3.0 to FortiOS 4.3.18 can be decrypted by a passive network adversary...' etc
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it's the magic numbers 4.3.0 and 4.3.18 that are at fault ; naught else.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728585 << if either of you will be so kind to point out to the schmuck he can make 0.02 each by writing on gf tits, i'll be much obliged.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 16:16 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728554 << 0.21 nao!
jessie_: i made that statement because yesterday night i had a nightmare were i was basically kidnapped
asciilifeform: you need better nightmares, jessie_
asciilifeform: i was hanging out with kim III in bestkorea in mine
asciilifeform: in usa.
jessie_: and then when the sadic russian picked the chainsaw to cut my dick in a very gory way i woke up
mircea_popescu: jessie_ the obvious approach is to see if playing bottom isn't very satisfying. as orson scott card well points out, the only way to survive temptation is to yield to it.
mircea_popescu: check out the local gay bar and see what comes of it.
jessie_: my thought was: if i give out the bitcoins, they are lost for god and then, in the middle of nowhere, the kidnapper could do some sadic game to get full satisfaction
mircea_popescu: nevermind that. dreams are psychanalitically meaningful, not directly interpretable.
mircea_popescu: fun fact : vast majority of girlies mp has enslaved to date enjoyed kidnapping-and-rape dreams during pubescence.
mircea_popescu: this because... hurr durr, a vast majority of all females do.
jessie_: if i do NOT hand out the privkeys, well, i will sacrifice my dick, suicide a couple of days after, but also being acclamated as the "moar deflation guy" on reddit and gain a lot of karma points
mircea_popescu: castration-and-rape is probably just nature's way of suggesting you try the female lobe of sexuality on for size.
jessie_: how much a girlie earn for beign enslaved?
mircea_popescu: they become wiser.
jessie_: a win win situation
mircea_popescu: quite.
asciilifeform: i get woodchipper dreams, what's that mean
asciilifeform: that time to use woodchipper lobe ?
mircea_popescu: eh, you're still anally fixated, no sex for you yet. probably should declutter your workplace.
jessie_: http://swordandscale.com/the-sadistic-halloween-slaying-of-shirley-lynette-ledford/
asciilifeform: lol my current workspace is one of those spiffy hotel lappy chairs
mircea_popescu: ah, you dreamed this recently ?
jessie_: this has nothing to do with my nightmare, but actually i have made the kidnapping nightmare exactly after reading this
mircea_popescu: jessie_ are you done with teh attention whoring and ready to actually do something useful, or rather are you done with the attention whoring and ready to move on ?
jessie_: i'm ready to move on
mircea_popescu: cya.
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , what did that massive abandoned factory by the river, make ?
mircea_popescu: all factories were by a river. which one ?
BingoBoingo: In other woodchipper dick slashings: Senator Jeff Flake not seeking reelection in Arizona. Make Great Great Again!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 45°45'39.1"N 21°15'25.0"E
mircea_popescu: o noes do you know how to conver this ? ima go ask the romanian signals intelligence brb.
asciilifeform: lolly
asciilifeform: it dun have a name, how else to point to it.
mircea_popescu: i believe that was housing not factory.
asciilifeform: it was screamingly a factory
asciilifeform: and next to it, across the river, another.
asciilifeform: traditional window panes, suggestive furniture visible through the massive holes in the wall ( didja use'em for bazooka practice or wat ), etc
mircea_popescu: ah ah i see. yeah.
mircea_popescu: iirc the one across was originally a mill eventually grain storage ; and this one textile something.
asciilifeform: hm for some reason i immediately pictured 'ro kalash maker'
mircea_popescu: nah. ro kalash maker is at cugir.
asciilifeform: oh and nao that i think about it, still in business last i saw.
asciilifeform: so can't be it.
mircea_popescu: oh btw, did you see the medieval afore-the-walls inn yet ?
asciilifeform: i saw the turkish turret turned meat processing plant
asciilifeform: is that it ?
asciilifeform: ( next to it btw was a cat bordello, pet enjoyed )
mircea_popescu: nah. there's a large square building dominating what's know the "fabric" neighbourhood.
mircea_popescu: it was one of the largest of its kind, and very emblematic for the period too
asciilifeform: maybe not seen yet
mircea_popescu: (medieval gates were a big deal, much like today's airports. most people had to sleep somewhere)
asciilifeform: i did see massive, astonishingly victorian abandoned water tower thing
asciilifeform: ( with windows... )
asciilifeform: i can't quite fathom wai so much abandoned real estate
asciilifeform: why nobody bought ?
mircea_popescu: the item has what was clearly an open hall on the ground floor, then drinking rooms above, then actual rooms for sleeping above-er, decorations on the roof (to be seen from distance by travellers) and everything
asciilifeform: can haz coords ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not worth anything. timisoara is dead as a going concern, a local detroit.
asciilifeform: i'd buy !!
mircea_popescu: so go, buy.
asciilifeform: they're selling ?!
asciilifeform: or are they argentinian-selling.
asciilifeform: i'd buy in toyota truck price range.
asciilifeform: ( also dun you gotta be a member of europistan to buy ? or is this a n00b notion )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just have someone take you down "bulevardul 3 august 1919". you will come to a plaza where the tramlines split. facing it, on your right is this block-sized building. the plaza has some items of interest also.
asciilifeform: also what's the brasspoleinbangkok-factor of this place ? ( i.e. say i buy something, will it be full of gypos when i get back to fill it up ? )
mircea_popescu: yup.
asciilifeform: what does gypo-removal go for ?
mircea_popescu: you don't buy without artillery in the vicinty.
mircea_popescu: it can't be had. why the fuck do you think it's dead as a going concern ?
mircea_popescu: "people rights" === zero land value.
asciilifeform: dunno, i see city full of happy folx in near-sparta-grade physical shape, 0 vermin, fine phood, parks open all night, etc
mircea_popescu: your determinations are very poor quality.
asciilifeform: not a detroit, unless in some subtle moral sense
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of vermin.
mircea_popescu: whether romanians are happy is an open matter. gypsyes are notoriously happy, for what that's worth.
asciilifeform: i mean bipedal vermin
asciilifeform: they're not detectable here
mircea_popescu: point is, they're useless, which is what we're discussing when capital goods are to be bought.
mircea_popescu: !!up alex__c
deedbot: alex__c voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: dja still not figure out how to do that ?
alex__c: hi
asciilifeform: the streets are swept, the german shop is stocked with prime high octane cheeses etc. what else 'use' i need.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, for instance there's 0 people from timisoara in l1.
asciilifeform: there's a doctor to set broken arm, an undertaker to put me in the earth, etc.
mircea_popescu: sure. enjoy!
asciilifeform: what does a white d00d have to do to get europistan passport anyway
asciilifeform: full megabenjie ? half ? or wat was it
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if that much.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> they're not detectable here << It's just the US conditions you to more overt visual indicators
mircea_popescu: heck, marry some local, you're good.
asciilifeform: other than this
mircea_popescu: even if you impregnate her out of sheer perversity the result won't cost 100k.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform were you looking for cheap or weren't you ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> full megabenjie ? half ? or wat was it << 100 kiloEuro and 10 jobs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 10 jerbs with 'people with rights' prolly > 100k
mircea_popescu: cheap is marry local, fuck her until pregnant, divorce her a year later, pay court ordered 600 lei/mo or w/e until you forget.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And there's the scam
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it ain't cheap if it requires physical wurk
mircea_popescu: i don't right off recall what the rules for the lazy were. get local lawyer ask him
asciilifeform: i can already picture it, suppose mircea_popescu ran an auto dealership, someone walks in asks for cheapest engined wheelbarrow , mircea_popescu answers 'over there, is a mine, spend 60 yrs there, you will have enough salt to trade for some iron blanks, and then....'
mircea_popescu: hey.
mircea_popescu: the "legal" approach will take longer and require more work, you're just new in this world and don't understand how the state works yet.
mircea_popescu: but as a general rule of thumb, whenever a fiat govt is involved, sensible isn't.
asciilifeform: 'Видишь, там на горе / Возвышается крест: / Под ним - десяток солдат, / Повиси-ка на не - ем... / А когда надоест, / Возвращайся назад / Гулять по воде со мно - ой...'
mircea_popescu: as BingoBoingo well points out, THAT IS THE SCAM.
asciilifeform: i did the passport thing in usa and know 'how state worx'
BingoBoingo: At least Brazil has "platinum" plan where 500,000 Reals ~150-200kilodollars gets visa without hires on assumtion you're gonna be spending
BingoBoingo: Anyways the big difference in how fiat authorities self present is whether they call themselves competent authorities or reasonable authorities
BingoBoingo: Everythig beyond that is details and rapelust
alex__c: checked out of curiosity.. for a Romanian passport you need Ro citizenship.. and in turn, you can get citizenship after 8 years of having lived here
alex__c: + some other assorted requirements
asciilifeform: wouldn't they throw ya out some time before 8yrs
asciilifeform: like they used to mexicans in usa
BingoBoingo: ^ The other catch
asciilifeform: 1 traffic stop, yer done ?
alex__c: or, it's 4 years if you 'invest' in Romania at least 1`000`000 euro lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Just apply for political asylum
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: me an' the other 400mil usaschwitzers, totally
BingoBoingo: alex__c: How many hires does 1,000,000 invested require?
asciilifeform: if i had a megabux i'd just live on that and try to stay out of police station
alex__c: can't find any further explanation on what investing means, and how to prove it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from experience, no. i had girls overstay their tourist visa by years.
mircea_popescu: the whole system is constructed to catch the poor. if your girls dun need to work, dun need to apply for anything to any govt office, they can stay forever.
asciilifeform: can buy warehousen with tourist visa ?
mircea_popescu: buy a warehouse as personal property ?
mircea_popescu: they don't have corps where you're from ?
asciilifeform: actually no, they only have transparent-to-usg mockeries where i'm from
mircea_popescu: yes well.
mircea_popescu: as a general rule you don't want personal property registered with the fiatistans.
asciilifeform: they dun have obummer and his army of pet mexican illegals here, you prolly gotta show passport to get mains current etc
mircea_popescu: personal property is for bitcoins, women, actually valuable things.
mircea_popescu: warehouses and crap, own through juridical persons.
asciilifeform: this , as often in mircea_popescu threads, is like asking a swallow for air travel advice.
asciilifeform: 'just flap yer wings, idjit'
asciilifeform: 'but i haven't got wings' 'slice lengthwise!1!!'
mircea_popescu: what portion of this appears to you innate ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Find pretty girl lawyer in RO, marry her
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if you can find a pretty female lawyer that wants to be married in ro, i wanna hear about it lmao.
asciilifeform: and when i want to move again, what, marry some moar ? afaik this only works in arabistan
mircea_popescu: "find young liberal petrus in south africa!"
asciilifeform: lol
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Fine, chain smoking motorcycling girl lawyer with clearly near expiration date that takes you to passport time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, if you're not staying a full year, you don't need any of this ; if you are, that's plenty of time to marry-and-divorce.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, why not. Passports don't expire for 10 years. Not like there's seekrit transnational marriage police if you aren't Catholic.
asciilifeform: to give some colour to the picture, asciilifeform walked on street and on a light pole was commonplace ad for flat for sale, 40kiloeur
mircea_popescu: bout what it costs.
asciilifeform: i.e. toyota
mircea_popescu: hey, you can have a house in comparable mittelamerica for same money.
asciilifeform: lol what are you comparing
asciilifeform: liquishitistan to timis ?
mircea_popescu: 200k inhabitant town with no culture and no perspectives.
asciilifeform: walmartiola to actual food /
mircea_popescu: akron, you understand, is a metropolis compared to bucharest.
asciilifeform: where is this cultured perspectivistan mircea_popescu went to ?
asciilifeform: i'd like to visit.
alex__c: Cairo probably
asciilifeform: white folx only plox.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to give some colour to the picture, asciilifeform walked on street and on a light pole was commonplace ad for flat for sale, 40kiloeur << What they cost over here.
mircea_popescu: hey, didn't i personally take you to teh naked girlies club of ba ?
asciilifeform: that's perspective ?!
asciilifeform: culture ?!
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: naked women in public is the cornerstone of anything i'd call culture.
asciilifeform: culture is when i can shit in the bowl franz joseph shat in.
mircea_popescu: no, that's muleture.
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: lmao
asciilifeform: deliberate example.
alex__c: at any rate, rent price in Timisoara has been going up in the past 1-2 years
BingoBoingo: What mircea_popescu has a visual fixation to make up for color blindness? asciilifeform has anal fixation because has to poop in shitty toilets sans gold
asciilifeform: one thing i haven't found yet, is the gallows where they must be hanging the corn syrop peddlers. because it is absent here 100% , i can taste, smell its absense, and it is orgasmic.
mircea_popescu: anyway, evidently we diverge in how we evaluate biosacks. but that's fine, timisoara could really use some foreign cash inflows as it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they use ukrainian beet sugar instead.
asciilifeform: to me that's actual sugar.
mircea_popescu: you keep claiming to hate 'em ukrs, but i have mah doubts.
asciilifeform: i'm half an ukr lol
mircea_popescu: i knew it was psychotisable!
asciilifeform introduced at one point as 'half j00 half antisemit'
mircea_popescu: oh, you're a jew on top of everything ?!
mircea_popescu: i thought being from odessa was only code in russian.
asciilifeform: aha is in the l0gz
mircea_popescu: scandalous.
asciilifeform: compleate with j00visa from usg
mircea_popescu: i don't know if we can be friends anymore.
asciilifeform: ( they imported'em for some yrs, nobody to this day knows for what )
BingoBoingo: !!up alex__c
deedbot: alex__c voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: i expect it was to boil and make some new plastic, but plan got mistracked
BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski OMG you and alf can now Mitzvah!
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 1985-2000 iirc.
mircea_popescu: iirc it was because they heard rachel's a total slut.
asciilifeform: gottabe
mircea_popescu: THAT utterly misfired.
asciilifeform: fwiw the j00establishment(tm)(r) is still powered by old-style puritanizedj00z
mircea_popescu: turns out, rachel's only a total slut in the warsaw ghetto. take her to california beach, she's a total nag.
asciilifeform: the imports largely went to seed ( engineering school and other unwomanlies )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/rocco-and-his-brothers/ << Trilema - Rocco and his brothers
mircea_popescu: evidently.
mircea_popescu: (california beach as in the ny shithole, for the non-natives)
asciilifeform: sooo seems like according to ro ministry of whateverses, the ro equiv. of usa's 'greencard' is given out just-like-that
asciilifeform: ( after 'prove that you are not a camel' rituals )
asciilifeform: but naturally this doesn't get the prospective escapee out of usg pederasty, for instance
asciilifeform: ( exercise for BingoBoingo and other adventurers : go to a europistani bank and try opening account with usa passport, read the resulting document & weep )
mircea_popescu: for the same money try the same in costa rica roflmao.
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : all europistani banks have fulltime politruk to report your every moving penny to guess whom )
mircea_popescu: all usg colonies are ~same in this respect. if you're going to stay within the empire, live in rome.
asciilifeform: they dun do this to the locals lol
mircea_popescu: you keep coming to these insane conclusions.
asciilifeform: only to the marked wretches with the black b00k.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck not ?
asciilifeform: locals pay 1 tax, the orcistani one
asciilifeform: usg cattle pay 2.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This is what lawyers are for.
mircea_popescu: of course they do this to the locals ; it's just that the locals aren't interesting by default, by virtue of being orc monkeys worth $400 with clothes on.
mircea_popescu: but should locals end up on the receiving payment for renoir, sure as fuck they do.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: colour the picture for my enlightenment plox, what does this look like
asciilifeform: it's 3% tax for garden-variety chicklet, and what, suddely 40% if renault ?
asciilifeform: renoir
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: !#s stolen picasso
a111: 2 results for "stolen picasso", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=stolen%20picasso
asciilifeform: ah those prolly same anywhere
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the discussion was "banks have fulltime politruk to report your every moving penny to guess whom".
asciilifeform: you want picasso, have also icmb.
asciilifeform: icbm
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: lel inb4 we make aliyah
asciilifeform: lollamatic
mircea_popescu: they report it for everyone, citizen and orc alike. just in the case of citizen they report by default ; whereas in the case of orc not.
asciilifeform: paging adlai !!
mircea_popescu: because citizen is worth ~100k by hitler decree ; whereas orc ~500.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to usg ?!
mircea_popescu: yes to usg.
mircea_popescu: to "coordinate" and whatnot.
asciilifeform: orc still owed 3%
mircea_popescu: see also recent discussion re slovakia. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-21#1727511☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-21 23:26 mircea_popescu: and here's some lulz for asciilifeform's private "art ownerhsip" collection : femme nue couchee, a courbet knockoff of the maja desnuda goya painting was looted in 45 by the soviets, who displayed it in the manner of truckers, which is to say on a truck tarpaulin. the item was thought lost, but it surfaced in 2000. the owner (possession is 100% of the law!) was accused of being unfit for ownership, as he happened to be slovak
asciilifeform: i dun give half a fuck where reported if all it wants is 3%
mircea_popescu: it wants 100% in all cases.
asciilifeform: i just opened a window and those folx dun look like they've been collected 100% from
pete_dushenski: speaking of fine artz, wasn't the only privately held da vinci painting about to go up for auction ? 1/15 "legit" works. pre-auction estimate $100mn but i dun see how it doesn't go for twice that.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski considering the current bezzle pressure / overwhelming inflation and the very personal-brand-oriented populace, it will probably be 1bn just to be able to say 1bn.
pete_dushenski: tis a nice round number, that "bn"
mircea_popescu: there's certainly that much needing washing, why miss the opportunity.
mircea_popescu: besides, gotta keep the brass hopes up. lest they http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726224☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 17:34 asciilifeform: 'in the official dachas, amidst the flicker of tv screens and the squal of mosquitoes, the brass agreed that it will be the last generation of brass' or how did limonov put it.
mircea_popescu: something to take the sting off my bitcoin buying clinton's jumpsuit.
pete_dushenski: "bn" also pop-famous after justin timberlake / mark zuckerberg facebook movie line "a million dollars isn't cool. y'know what's cool ? a billion" and then they all do shots and blow. but this was 2004 or w/e so 10x today and you're there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason is those folks don't have anything anyone wants.
mircea_popescu: i agree with you the anyone has serious problems understanding food, architecture, etcetera. but that's about as far as it goes.
asciilifeform: they have plenty. clean air, for instance. fathom this, mircea_popescu , asciilifeform's sense of smell comes back 2nd day from airplane when he goes here.
asciilifeform: 0snot on 3rd day.
asciilifeform: i dunno if this is because 0.5 autos per capita here instead of 2.5, or because they shoot cornsyropists in the head here, or why, but phakt.
asciilifeform: and if retort 'but you can't confiscate clean air', sure they could, china did
asciilifeform: and yet here it is.
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu recall your article re orthodox church ? how it is backbone of a culture, prevents mcdonaldization ?
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-22#1727535 << a toast to the foundation☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 00:37 mod6 raises a glass to the 3rd anniversary of The Bitcoin Foundation
asciilifeform: evidently there is something to be said for backbone.
mircea_popescu: orthodox church rather impopular in timisoara.
asciilifeform: where was this place on sunday then ? at cinema ?
pete_dushenski: !~later tell trinque nifty work on deebot payments
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: looked quite emptied
mircea_popescu: you know, http://trilema.com/2011/grozavia-dintre-femei-si-fete/
mircea_popescu: same place amherst, oh goes on sundays, they raise awareness on facebook and watch netflix.
asciilifeform: point being, ~something~ kept the cheese from turning to velveeta, the air -- from americanizing into sooty horror, and the hapsburg square, from disneylandizing
mircea_popescu: the dream of "Everyone a VCR" was finally realised.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is like saying "something kept the girl from being raped". yes. the absence of the penis. what else ?
mircea_popescu: the habsburg square is a) never getting fixed b) not upkept for 30 years. what keeps it still standing is its origin ; once that gives out it's gone.
asciilifeform: actually it was being fixed as i watched
asciilifeform: i took pics
mircea_popescu: take thee to a walk among the ruins of the old russian barracks in the middle of the town, count the rats.
asciilifeform: several houses already restored, look quite spiffy
mircea_popescu: a ?
asciilifeform: i'ma upload a few , 1s
mircea_popescu: whgat's the rush, can continue once you blogpost.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/foo.jpg << a 'before' ; a (diff. bldg) 90% complete 'after' >> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bar.jpg
asciilifeform: several other houses in burlap, being prepped for same treatment
asciilifeform: there WAS , however, a plaquard somewhere, confessing that all of this is happening on eu grantola.
asciilifeform: BUt it's happenin'.
asciilifeform: 'detroit' my shiny metal arse. the basic diff is not even the paint on the bricks, but that these people are people.
asciilifeform: and nowhere in usa is there so much as a small town that's 100% people.
asciilifeform: in fact it is quite illegal in usa to even publicly mention that some people are people, and others not so much.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit the matter of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728843 : adrian sirbu, possibly the only romanian to have done anything since 1989 (he created the deliberate usg tool Pro Tv in 1995, a media company whose wikipedia page no longer mentions him -- very much a successful equivalent of the failed http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666048), has recently been accused of... you'll guess this not ? TERRORISM!☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 18:01 asciilifeform: i just opened a window and those folx dun look like they've been collected 100% from
a111: Logged on 2017-06-05 16:13 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666045 << the way the lizards expect the shit to work is exactly in the way mp -saves-openbsd worked : as seen moneyz. recall the story of the us embassy spending a whooping 50k to start an "empire" of fake news tv stations etc ?
mircea_popescu: outside of this guy, and a talented soccer player (adrian mutu) who could have amounted to something but chose hookers and blow instead, there are no actual mp competitors in that country.
asciilifeform: in what countries ~are~ ?
asciilifeform: or are the other mp's made of pure energy, and dun interact with material world
asciilifeform: and not detectable with any instrument in asciilifeform's laboratory.
asciilifeform: neutrino-mp passes through light-year of Pb with 50% chance of nudging a proton, or wat.
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of oligarchs, in the typical russian fashion, of "here's some government money", from the old guard of http://trilema.com/2012/dan-voiculescu-acest-gunoi-abject/ to the newly invented "media personalities" a la sebastian ghita.
asciilifeform: those ain't mp lol
asciilifeform: those are 'make billion by starting with trillion' lottery orcs lol
mircea_popescu: in between them, laughable if meanwhile expired idiots a la what's his face, lala andrisan's estwhile admirer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so the point would seem to be that no, they don't make anything.
asciilifeform: they make breathable air and fine cheese and 3% tax and ... etc eh
mircea_popescu: that isn't made. that hasn't been unmade yet, and there's no actual walls.
mircea_popescu: point in case : all these were sensibly better in 2007 than they are today ; and better still in 1997.
asciilifeform: phun phakt, i walked into a plebian shoe store,
asciilifeform: it had chinese shoes, at first i thought, snoar
asciilifeform: but then noticed that they were ~1990s-grade chinese shoes~
mircea_popescu: but yes, timisoara has automated raw milk dispensing machines. while that lasts, which is to say until some dumb cunt "raises awareness" enough on facebook
asciilifeform: i.e. 2x the sturdy sole
asciilifeform: moar seams, less glue.
asciilifeform: for 3 bux or so / pair.
mircea_popescu: does it actually still ahve those btw ?
asciilifeform: it has'em !
asciilifeform: joiana the cow !!
asciilifeform: it is on my itinerary tomorrow
asciilifeform: to drink from it
mircea_popescu: a cool.
asciilifeform: btw didja know it is banned where i live ?
asciilifeform: in delaware house, i get it
mircea_popescu: yeah.
asciilifeform: but in md nodice
asciilifeform: holy mother of everliving fuck, not only did my smell and taste senses come back , but raw milk !!
mircea_popescu: can make the woman churn butter by hand.
mircea_popescu: it'll be an experience.
asciilifeform: there's only a point to doing so in usa if you can get direct access to a cow
asciilifeform: otherwise you get homogenized white colouring instead of milk
asciilifeform: unless in a few states, and close to farm.
asciilifeform: what is called milk in usa, is similar to what comes of washing the milk pails in normal country
asciilifeform: unfortunately i did not pack a butter churn in suitcase lol
mircea_popescu: take your milk to village museum, use piece lmao
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: and then put in the ЗИЛ fridge in communism museum!1!
mircea_popescu: on the list of "strangest requests ever made", /me once inquired with museum guard in cluj how much to fuck escort in one of those ancient beds.
asciilifeform: my understanding is that they were not so hot, no springs yet
mircea_popescu: all wood, many layers of thick woolen coverings etc.
mircea_popescu: but whocares, that's what she's for neh ? to absorb the shocks.
asciilifeform: do you ride carts without suspension also lol
asciilifeform: sit on the chix
mircea_popescu: yea, actually.
asciilifeform: horsy has suspension, so dun count
mircea_popescu: similarily asked damsel if she'll lay herself in the mud so i don't have to stain myself fucking her.
mircea_popescu: but this was in the dumbravita forest
mircea_popescu: oh, btw : asciilifeform take pet for a walk. tis nice, maybe you see does.
asciilifeform: i went in the zoo there today btw
asciilifeform: the pisica salbatica was mega-hit
mircea_popescu: i can't stand zoos.
asciilifeform: that one was imho tolerable
mircea_popescu: i can believe.
asciilifeform: the animals had more square metrage than asciilifeform has at home
asciilifeform: i shit thee not
asciilifeform: and it was in the middle of woods
mircea_popescu: of course ? mouse has self respect.
asciilifeform: and next to interesting 'executed by communist' tomb thing
asciilifeform: there were old d00dz there, playing cards
asciilifeform: and some old crone crying on the bench
asciilifeform: prolly wife of one of them rebels nailed in '49 engraved on the plinths or somesuch
mircea_popescu: hey, they were still nailing rebels in the 60s.
asciilifeform: there were also randomly chickens and goats loose in the zoo.
asciilifeform: and hares.
asciilifeform: the guinea pig was absent, already went to the table i imagine
mircea_popescu: sounds pretty good.
asciilifeform: the best thing was, as elsewhere, the clean air and absence of screaming idiots and their spawn ( visit washington's zoo )
asciilifeform: no cocacola, no p.t.barnum and his horrors, none of it, just the tall trees .
asciilifeform: and a few beasts.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform frequented a zoo like this as a kid.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your point of interest is around 45.0844717 / 21.2666934.
mircea_popescu: pack walking boots.
asciilifeform: that's middle of a field ?!
mircea_popescu: nah, it's between forest and dam.
mircea_popescu: can fish ; can also walk among teh euro trees.
asciilifeform: in serbia ?!
asciilifeform: that's north and east , coords, neh ?
mircea_popescu: um.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: o damn
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your point of interest is around 45.8044717 / 21.2666934. << restated.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: ok THAT looks moar like it.
mircea_popescu: if it dun rain, can go for picnic, make day of it.
asciilifeform: i'ma stick a pin at those coords and actually do it, when i have the coveted pad here.
mircea_popescu: conceivably it'll survive a decade or two.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, if you don't mind me asking: where else in Europe have you been for longer than few days?
diana_coman: fwiw raw milk can be had even in the uk and no, it's not terribly expensive/commando mission sort of thing; still, I wouldn't list that as some proof of sanity or anything
asciilifeform: diana_coman: odessa, su
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 950km east of here
asciilifeform: and no i have no remaining desire to go to wahabistan.
asciilifeform: ( fr, uk, it, et al )
diana_coman: eh, so hungary, poland, what
asciilifeform: hungary is wahabifying
asciilifeform: as we speak
asciilifeform: poland is ethnic enemy and roundabout shithole
diana_coman: plenty; what I was trying to figure out was why do those specific things seem so extraordinary to you as they are not (yet perhaps) extraordinary around Europe I'd say
asciilifeform: they aren't extraordinary, diana_coman , i lived first 9y of life with'em
mircea_popescu: alf's mental process is always fascinating.
mircea_popescu: whose the fuck are poles ethnic enemies of ?!?!
mircea_popescu: polacca is to this day how you say whore if you're an italian whore who is scared of work and all those who are competent at what they do. which simple means italian.
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: i had nfi
mircea_popescu: anyway. the principal protector of sane alimentation in europe is not the ro orthodox church, but the "Corrupt" and "lazy" french farming lobby.
mircea_popescu: which, from what i've seen, has little hope of survival past the demise of the few old hardasses pushing it like it were their tmsr.
asciilifeform: yeah yeah eventually the serpent will eat the roots of yggdrasil and all will burn in fire of ragnarok sure.
asciilifeform: i believe, fwiw.
asciilifeform: but today -- not yet.
mircea_popescu: well, narrower than that : london no longer wishes to be taxed ; the eu will survive as a bureaucracy, sure, but what else.
asciilifeform: as agrarian latifundia, as it belongs ?
mircea_popescu: who's gonna pay so that the lake of wine can continue.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a fact : no one works the field without a whip.
asciilifeform: whip grows as naturally as the sprouts.
mircea_popescu: they can be happy doing it, sure. they WILL NOT do it of own accord.
mircea_popescu: this is doubtful. the us prohibition / post ww2 eu/jp have shown us the sad truth that manhood is not in fact an inexhaustible, natural supply.
asciilifeform: usa is pile of dead horses, long decayed to bone, covered pile of rusty tractors, long fused solid and brown. i point to healthy stallion, mircea_popescu reminds 'it, too, will die, turn to dust'. yes, it will.
mircea_popescu: in the contrary, very exhaustible and not in any sense natural.
asciilifeform: if it can come back, it will come back here. and not in estrogenized syropistan.
asciilifeform: and if it cannot come back -- bring on the asteroid.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, the meta-discussin is more about "i want to move there", cognate of "this has a permanent future"
asciilifeform: there are no permanent futures.
mircea_popescu: hm.
asciilifeform: i for one didn't ship from factory with a sticker guaranteeing permanence.
asciilifeform: i'm looking for 20-30 yrs of clean air and cheap roquefort, modest.
mircea_popescu: not guaranteedly permanent future ; but "know no reason proving its impermanence" permanent.
mircea_popescu: you know, like "healthy". healthy is nothing but "no known deadly disease"
diana_coman: !!up alex_c
deedbot: alex_c voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: fwiw if usa can be put in a drum and buried with other toxic waste in next decade, europe will grow back.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 2-3 decades seem quite likely, indeed.
asciilifeform: so there we go. asciilifeform is not immortal god, does not have mircea_popescu's engineering constraints!11
mircea_popescu: and historically grow back is kinda what europe always did, so hard to argue against.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im no immortal god ; i just fuck some.
asciilifeform: when mircea_popescu picks lands, he has to check for volcanism on 10kyr scale etc. must be quite annoying.
diana_coman: !!reputation alex__c
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wT6bM/?raw=true
diana_coman: !!reputation alex_c
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SfK6c/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ok i'ma bbl, gonna go take in the night air and other unspeakables.
mircea_popescu: !!up alex__c
deedbot: alex__c voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: alex__c which one are you using ? this one ?
diana_coman: !!rate alex__c 1 long time lurking, writes at daimon.me/blog
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1KaZR/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: !!rate alex__c 1 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-24#1728097☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-24 16:51 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-24#1728075 << http://daimon.me/blog/2017/04/orientul-cel-nu-foarte-indepartat/ item, for teh curious.
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Jn3qG/?raw=true
diana_coman: !!v 8EBEB2832ACEF4A7156255BB1F883D8C4A9A9D0D46E7C276A4A26AF5067DB9F3
alex__c: gotta triple check I have the password saved somewhere
deedbot: diana_coman rated alex__c 1 << long time lurking, writes at daimon.me/blog
diana_coman: !!down alex__c
diana_coman: alex__c, try !!up yourself to deedbot
mircea_popescu: get a load of that!
diana_coman: hey, congrats alex__c
mircea_popescu: diana_coman watch that cipslim next manages to figure out how saudi internets work.
alex__c: thanks diana_coman
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ahaha, judging by activity there might be...lotus next!
mircea_popescu: that ain't happening.
alex__c: I had lotus on facebook, unfriended recently; he still misses Fain if you can believe that
mircea_popescu: easily.
mircea_popescu: hey, maybe alf moves to tm for reals and unearths it lol.
diana_coman: oh hey, that's an idea; asciilifeform ^^
mircea_popescu: im sure i stillo have the dumps somewhere.
diana_coman: I'm quite sure it would be rather easy to get the main old timers back in there to start with too; not that the problem really; good linguistic project too :D
mircea_popescu: not sure why anyone'd bother, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, how's the "meet chicks by offering free bed and breakfast" thing going alex__c ?
alex__c: eh, didn't find one that both me and gf would find attractive
mircea_popescu: considering what it costs tho, not the end of the world.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and nowhere in usa is there so much as a small town that's 100% people. << There's one of those nearby. Breese, Illinois. A bit further Pinkneyville, Illinois.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hungary is wahabifying << I thought they were the reaction to they point one can have such so close to Prussia.
asciilifeform: chronic walmarteaters aint people, even if white-skinned, BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: far gone.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They don't have walmarts with USian drive distances
asciilifeform: pigmy moar a people.
asciilifeform: sysco same.
asciilifeform: hell i dunno if asciilifeform any moar counts as a people.
asciilifeform: eat hazmat for 25y and it changes you.
BingoBoingo: Well, maybe try pooping it all out in while playing rotaku
BingoBoingo: In other news, worst case for a company address in Brazil is renting a private office in Paulista neighborhood which runs... $435/month.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ~same as baltimoristan
BingoBoingo: Saint Louis area more because DoD bezzle
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1729056 << where didja bury it, mircea_popescu ? i didn't bring my spade but can get at the shop next to jooanathecow!1,☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 19:27 mircea_popescu: hey, maybe alf moves to tm for reals and unearths it lol.
asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo will enjoy the husqvarna shop.
BingoBoingo: I prefer racis jap 2-cycle prowess to roll over and ethnic suicide Swedes
BingoBoingo: But Husqvarna has some nice torquey 3-cylinder diesel mini-tractors
BingoBoingo: Or does shop have a more "classic" Husqvarna product line?
asciilifeform: chainsaws mostly
asciilifeform: 'find some meat' (tm)(r) 'doom'
asciilifeform: speaking of ethnic suicides, these folx, apparently , aint having one, they're walking with strollers, playgrounds full of chillunz, typical face on street is not older than asciilifeform , etc
BingoBoingo: Ah, the japs over at Echo seem to be doing that better. More aftermarket exhaust availability to rice it up.
asciilifeform: this strictly naked eye survey.
BingoBoingo: When selecting a chainsaw for home defense, exhaust noise is everything.
asciilifeform: lol!
BingoBoingo: Hey, some burglars might miss sound of shotgun cocking.
BingoBoingo: Or they may try hiding behind wall while not leaving premises
BingoBoingo: Burglar must at least be fined the cleanliness of their pants.
BingoBoingo: Easy starting also important, so synthetic 2-cycle fuel pre-mix is a must.
BingoBoingo: Shelf stable for months after opening, years unopened.
BingoBoingo: Not necessary for planned uses like tree cutting, but very important when things go bump in the night
asciilifeform: worx also as gas attack
asciilifeform: sadly from both ends
BingoBoingo: What, you don't keep windows open when sleeping?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, CO poisoning is readily recoverable from
asciilifeform: here's a phun experiment btw
asciilifeform: take a co detector into yer car sometime
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : it will never shuddup . which is why car dun come with co detector. and prolly explains something re usa via chronic anoxia )
BingoBoingo: Eh, CO clear system in conscious active person within 8-12 hours. Buy a carton of cigarettes and verify for self.
BingoBoingo: Chronic anoxia more likely related to smoking and being too fat to breathe among USistanis
asciilifeform: other phunphaktz : here ~everyone smokes; and entirely, fully nobody, is fat.
BingoBoingo: Well, smoking and fat aren't very correlated. Food want usually only signaled through 5HT, Nicotine want signaled by lighting ACH receptors on fire.
BingoBoingo: In US smoking is one of those things like gainful employment that tends to cap how fat.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun just mean 'no scooties', but literally sparta grade, not a gram of excess mass on'em
asciilifeform: like there isn't on a greyhound or a wild fox
BingoBoingo: Well, pedestrian society. You know who also tends not have excess mass like a greyhound? Addicts
asciilifeform: none of these, at least not where naked eye can see'em. though i finally saw a bum. 1.
BingoBoingo: Well, you aren't operating on their schedule
asciilifeform: other items seeming to be absent entirely: screaming or otherwise detectable drunks; barf puddles; spent syringes; signs of breaking and entering; police actually picking anyone up
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at this point i've been around all the major streets at all hours of the clock
BingoBoingo: What about the back alleys?
asciilifeform: this place is maybe the size of 4 typical u.s. university campuses
asciilifeform: various back alleys included , they tend to contain interesting items ( e.g. abandoned synagogues )
asciilifeform: last j00 was gassed some time in 40s
BingoBoingo: Huh, maybe that's it?
asciilifeform: which it
BingoBoingo: The 40s
BingoBoingo: In other lols, D-Wave claims Higgs Boson find