BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( dulap -- believe or not -- is still up... ) << Prolly because the haet speak on dulap doesn't look like itself to the uninitiated.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, both boxes on same hoster. One unplugged promptly, other curiously still connected despite overt raep overtures..
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 487879 | Current Difficulty: 1.123863285132E12 | Next Difficulty At Block: 489887 | Next Difficulty In: 2008 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: In other media: Si Newhouse (Conde Nast) dead, finally
BingoBoingo: Allegedly his brother Donald still lives for some definition of living
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4370.02, vol: 7410.83687857 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4417.0, vol: 27771.91218176 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 4229.3316, vol: 0 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4397.0, vol: 2729.09851003 | Volume-weighted last average: 4406.37685413
trinque: I'm over here working on the thing
trinque: it'll respond when I fire it back up
lobbes: should I re-deed those or are they in the queue?
trinque: I've got 'em, will make sure they pop out the other end.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-10-02 03:16:09: <lobbes> also to note that going forward, all BTC payments will be done through the deedbot wallet service. If someone wants to pay via that method, let me know and I'll generate the invoice
trinque: lobbes: checked out the commands already?
trinque: very cool. soon as I'm done mucking around in deedbot's innards, it'll get a proper write-up. docs should be pretty self-explanatory though.
trinque: glad ya like it. let me know how it goes.
lobbes: excited to test it out, although 100% of my payments have been in ecu so far. Perhaps will change now though
trinque: mircea_popescu: he didn't put them in the bot
mircea_popescu: !!v 539218EA825EAAA0BFEC1FFC260DDDE968EDC8A3AC0F1C5F80814807907C47A0
trinque: takes units of decimal btc
mircea_popescu: so !!deposit 1 is 1 btc and deposit 0.01 is 1 bitcent ?
trinque: it'll come back to you with encrypted next steps
trinque: when given the right count of parameters
mircea_popescu: well it should bitch rather than let me decrypt an useless pad then
trinque: hey, I got scooped by lobbes!
mircea_popescu: !!v 5173B2520A618A470B3F0874800652F8EA5F7792037EF86BC2908D2F966C4385
trinque: because the thing's otherwise open to filling up my deposit queue with junk
trinque: for things like balance, one step
trinque: depending on the level of trust I put in freenode
mircea_popescu: so what are ppl gonna do, fill your queue with junk then get negrated ? not much of a plan.
trinque: it's a fair point; lets remove it and see what happens
mircea_popescu: recall when alf got fined like what was it, 1 btc ? for spamming the chan ?
trinque: lol I don't, but it's a fine policy.
trinque: I haven't put anything into place, but it's interesting to consider how the wot and access to wallet might interact.
trinque: I might not be inclined to hold money for folks that have been severely negrated by enough of the lordship.
trinque: isn't locked to this channel at the moment.
trinque: but doing so'd do exactly that
trinque: mircea_popescu: another thing to note is you asked to be able to pay arbitrary addresses. can do, but I much prefer that be done with !!withdraw rather than !!pay. otherwise I'm stuck worrying about whether some person registers an address as nick.
trinque: I don't like writing functions that try to figure out what kind of inputs they were handed. (and I write lisp, even)
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 20:04 mircea_popescu: !!pay 1FNFe9fC21sVp3syeGSRprnBCGU9QuY9Eh 1
mircea_popescu: so basically, you want !!withdraw to pay to a bitcxoin addredss and !!pay to pay to a nick ?
trinque: in the longstanding tradition of republican payments, deedbot thanks you for your donation. or put more kindly, I don't want to keep a list of names and people's addresses; deposit amounts are meant to identify a person only at a point in time.
trinque: there's only a single address, and the generated deposit amount is what links any inbound transactions to their account.
trinque: hadn't decided yet, but I'm fine with it being quite long. ideally the deposit_request table doesn't fill up with bunk requests.
mircea_popescu: is there collision protection ? or can the same 4 digits show up twice ?
trinque: the same 4 digits will only show up again if a previous deposit for that amount has been completed
mircea_popescu: so basically, as long as you're not getting in excess of 10k calls per however long they expire, you don't really have a problem.
trinque: exactly, shouldn't be a reason to delete at all
trinque: can certainly say at least 24hrs; I was willing to say "at least a month"
mircea_popescu will still use it as a "it's good for a day-ish", which imo is reasonable.
trinque: I'm headed to bed, will respond to any other feedback in the AM.
BingoBoingo: 50+ killed, 200 plus wounded in Floor 32, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, Nevada shooting during Jason ALdean concert credited by the noise mill to Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada
☟︎☟︎ BingoBoingo: LVPD is apparently seeking a petite, aged azn female as suspected accomplice
diana_coman: Framedragger, did you ever publish somewhere re the customs fee you had to pay for your fg(s)?
☟︎ deedbot: asciilifeform voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: asciilifeform_ voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 16:24 Framedragger: re. FUCKGOATS customs hold-up in UK: according to their story the hold-up with uk customs was due to them having to apply import duty (had to pay a bit) from u.s., *even though* i've had plenty of shit sent in from u.s. of a. before, so who knows (they wouldn't tell me more) :D
diana_coman: ah, I was thinking more post/blog style I guess; anyways, I'll link to log then I suppose
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 10:42 BingoBoingo: 50+ killed, 200 plus wounded in Floor 32, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, Nevada shooting during Jason ALdean concert credited by the noise mill to Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 19:24 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713729 << this is not even a correct statement. more properly "i will desist killing all my offspring before gestation completes if and only if my sovereign right to kill them at any time is socially recognized".
mircea_popescu: diana_coman for some reason he's insanely reluctant to blog. nfi.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 16:24 Framedragger: re. FUCKGOATS customs hold-up in UK: according to their story the hold-up with uk customs was due to them having to apply import duty (had to pay a bit) from u.s., *even though* i've had plenty of shit sent in from u.s. of a. before, so who knows (they wouldn't tell me more) :D
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 14:49 mircea_popescu: the culling of the lot millenial is long overdue as it is. hopefully the rest of the 60yos understand their past mistakes and proceed to
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713736 mircea_popescu: none of these schmucks actually do anything with their time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and besides, i'll bet you bitcoin to donuts they DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean, the complete list, from "don't route my emails through fucking atlanta so they can be arrested in rem, imbecile, especially not if you advertise nationalist lithuania or w/e the fuck, scammer" to "don't give away my harddrives to schmucks, what the fuck is wrong with you".
mircea_popescu: as far as idiot mind is concerned, they "tried" and "went above and beyond" but "sadly".
mircea_popescu once interviewed girly, towards the outer edge of age limit, who had spent those years in office drone training. what she got for it was 0 independent thought or capacity of action, nothing left of natural curiosity or sensuality, overall horrible fit. but the thing is she declared, as her own self-image, that she's the sorta gal which, told to jump, merely wants to know how high.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: phraseology she no doubt picked off some "conference" or whatever they call the corporation-organized "social life" for the drones. and she actually believed this.
mircea_popescu: they actually think themselves human, for reasons that've nothing to do with anything above and beyond a waxed cylinder reproducing human speech.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, presumably want to know how high in order to write it down on the to-do list or some such; it's a world of words, what else is there anyway other than words
mircea_popescu: maybe. i don't think it was anything deeper than just the response, tbh.
mircea_popescu: world of words, yes, but not even articulated words. most things are one-pass.
diana_coman: exactly, push this button get that response and if you want another response, tweak a bit and there it goes out
mircea_popescu: the other as a single-pass state machine, "if he says X then he's in state 1 you say Y, if he says Q you say Z, ... , if he says T you say G and that's the whole list of interaction".
mircea_popescu: "how's it going" "great" ; "here's that X" "thank you" and a few others. maybe a dozen ? maybe three dozen for you know, super-duper VIP CTO CEO etc. that's the whole model.
diana_coman: quite; and what do you mean to say P when he said T!!! that is not fair and so on
mircea_popescu: two pass responsens such as "how's it going" -?-> "great" end ; -?-> !"great" "just $x ? not great ?" is already SO FUCKUING CREATIVE OMG it belongs in like the movies.
mircea_popescu: somehow people could watch fargo and not call the national guard to salt the fucking place where it stood.
diana_coman: cruciform, head hurting though can be same as "muscle hurts" - simply an indication it's ...working and growing
mod6: <+cruciform> about 2 months in so far -6m is a hefty requirement! << nice, keep at it!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 15:13 mircea_popescu once interviewed girly, towards the outer edge of age limit, who had spent those years in office drone training. what she got for it was 0 independent thought or capacity of action, nothing left of natural curiosity or sensuality, overall horrible fit. but the thing is she declared, as her own self-image, that she's the sorta gal which, told to jump, merely wants to know how high.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i heard it originally in the hotel trade, "if guest calls desk at 3am to ask for a cucumber, the only acceptable question is how large"
diana_coman: asciilifeform, didn't know it was yours, man! lolz, lemme dig...
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I did know of Framedragger's experience yes; similarly I have my own experience of Ro post brazenly not only kidnapping packages as in...entirely, vanished etc
mircea_popescu: eh, su is no better. in recent memory they stole camera, resealed package, sent it along.
mircea_popescu: girls were mindblown, "why the fuck would anyone do this".
mircea_popescu: the answer, however, is obvious -- random convict couldn't, literally, give less of a shit.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, re britanistan I'm still searching for the essence of my deep problem that keeps me here; but historically it comes after having enough of Italy after having enough of France after having enough (more than enough!!!) of Ro
diana_coman: so dunno, having so many enoughs and eating them, might be I got fat
mircea_popescu: "oh it will be discovered". what the fuck does he care ? by the time it's discovered he's either dead, inside anyway for "drug bust" or otherwise, you know, MADE IT IN THIS GAME
mircea_popescu: he thought it pattern matches something fence might have taken once.
mircea_popescu: this is the constant lulz, asking "what was he thinking". what the fuck, if he were thinking he'd be working at the post office ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's ok, i dunno who else could be paid enough to live in the swamp.
mircea_popescu: and yet strangely the us collects as much tax as the uk.
trinque: got state income tax in maryland too!
diana_coman: asciilifeform, re "why would he do that" - I don't think there is a why; what to do with it comes afterwards anyway
diana_coman: asciilifeform, part of trouble is that atm on such coordinates it's unclear if moon is far enough as it is
mircea_popescu: diana_coman amusingly, it increased ? yours was 19.42, Framedragger 's was 18.6 if memory serves ?
mircea_popescu: does the queen's own asshole dilate with inflation in those lands too ?
diana_coman: it seems that his was lower but it's unclear why really
diana_coman: it's fixed amount asciilifeform ; and a third of it is for "post service" weirdly enough
mircea_popescu: in related news, i turned off a horrifying bad piece of british propaganda yest, "the hill" with sean connery.
mircea_popescu: the idea there is that people in a north africa military prison give so much of a shit about the crown & all they actually do what told!
diana_coman: asciilifeform, quite; you don't get to pay that if package doesn't attract customs fee
lobbes: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.00100800
diana_coman: I got plenty of packages otherwise and never had to pay such a thing
lobbes: Damn. Alright I'ma create invoice tonight once I'm near my signing key, mircea_popescu
☟︎ diana_coman: admittedly, not much (if any, hmm) from the USA
diana_coman: come to think of it: the deck of cards! lol
mircea_popescu:
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/poO3G/?raw=true << the item. because FUCKING TOTALLY, if i'm running whores in cairo i'm gonna be so totally impressed with some two bit sargent major he's not only not getting shot, but ima do what he says! guess who's changing who here!!11
diana_coman: asciilifeform> diana_coman: as one who lives 20min from the fuhrerbunker, asciilifeform is not someone to lecture folx on 'time to move'. but i dun think anybody could ~pay~ me enuff to live in rotherhamistan... <-- on one hand most non-brits here (and yeah, it's an area with some 25%+ non-brits) anyway are a positive thing overall; on the other hand there is this (been repeatedly told) very British dream of retiring (with good
diana_coman: money obv!) in a poor country and watching the sun setting just as the local economy sets too - it sounds as if they managed the setting part right at home
diana_coman: must be the legionnaire florentine brits-only ; but yes, makes sense
mircea_popescu: consider though : 100% of classical theatre is "old guy retiring (with good money obv!) with either young wife being a whore or else hot daughter being a slut".
mircea_popescu: the barber of seville, the merchant of venice, the taming of the shrew, all, all "mistaken identity" / commedia dell'arte consists of this and nothing else but this : "here's how life reclaims the money bags"
diana_coman: oh, classical theatre made me think of...antigona and I was racking my brains
mircea_popescu: that's antique! classical theatre is this 1500 florentine thing.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the legionnaire's dream is the one most enduring roman contribution to modern world.
mircea_popescu: "take the solidus, go somewhere where q. robur grows and the tits are fistfilling, settle down and relax already."
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 10:42 BingoBoingo: 50+ killed, 200 plus wounded in Floor 32, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, Nevada shooting during Jason ALdean concert credited by the noise mill to Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 16:05 lobbes: Damn. Alright I'ma create invoice tonight once I'm near my signing key, mircea_popescu
trinque: but that's where it'll end up
mircea_popescu: wait, he shot from the hotel into the parking lot as it were ?
mircea_popescu: "Hey, I would have bought it HERE if it EXISTED, you know? It sucks to have to import cool stuff from half way around the world, yes, but how does it follow then that one also has to *pay locals* for their failing to have the cool stuff locally?" << this is a rather important point.
mircea_popescu: well what is this, conspiracism for conspiracism's sake ?
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who could possibly be arsed to eat the cost of culling the worthless millenials. that an old man undertakes it is very much in the vein of what old age is all about.
mircea_popescu: what, is your construction here that las vegas hospitals and funeral parlors have revived the ancient frontier practice of paying drunks to create work for them ?
mircea_popescu: well who the fuck goes to an open air concert, besides mobile poor people.
mircea_popescu: i don't think this segmentation carries any water. it's not "workingclass or officeclass". it's not country or pop or rap or anything else. it's born before 1990 or not.
mircea_popescu: if yes, there's no office and there's no work and there's no anything else. there's strictly the ipad and hopefully lead.
mircea_popescu: google jason aldean. there's his personal site, searches for spouse and his lulzy kids preloaded, songs (on youtube, fo course) linked.
mircea_popescu: On September 30, 2012, Aldean admitted to having "acted inappropriately at a bar",while former American Idol contestant Brittany Kerr, responding to reports linking her and Aldean, said in a statement she had suffered "a lapse in judgment" and "would like to sincerely apologize to everyone that has been affected by this"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is going to be affected by a naked slut in a bar getting fucked or w/e they did
ben_vulpes: vegas is hard to pin down demographically, as it's just the projection of a particular multidimensional entertainment megacorp through our plane, so you're just as likely to run into tourists not even from this plane as you are say dentists from las cruces or 'hft guyz' from nyc
mircea_popescu: "But the Bi-Mart Willamette Country Music Festival—or BMWCMF as it will be henceforth referred to—clearly does not care about positive PR. In that way, the BMWCMF is unlike any music festival I’ve ever been to. It also perfectly embodies Oregon as it exists outside of Portland: rural, rugged, and rude. Attempting to acquire a media pass feels more like haggling with a stranger on Craigslist." << jews' first little step
mircea_popescu: on the lengthy long road to discovering that no, nobody wants zher here there or absolutely anywhere.
mircea_popescu: "positive pr" indeed, what, from the likes of Caleb Crain and his "husband" Peter Terzian ? noty.
mircea_popescu: here's a great idea : the best way to "Screensave" is by NOT FUCKING BUYING ONE.
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719440 - interestingly enough re uk vat for us "imports" I got passed on this snippet, apparently published in the spectator too: "I recently ordered a pair of wire strippers from the USA at a cost of £14.07. Two weeks later I received a demand for £3.90 duty and VAT, plus a Royal Mail 'handling fee' of £8. The latter struck me as an awful lot of handling for a small tool. Thank you, Royal
☝︎ diana_coman: Mail, but no. You may now enjoy handling the item all the way back to America, at your own cost."
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it'd matter a lot more if the actual handling cost weren't ~100 ECu or so per package.
mircea_popescu: rather, the penalty for breaking chinese liquidshit marketing areas.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw re deck of cards the way I found that fake one was basically through a Russian who saw&bought it because it reminded HIM of the original deck of cards of his grandfather who was of the type self-exiled to France
diana_coman: hm, now that you mention it I realise I do not have even one single anglo-deck of cards actually in the house, lol
mircea_popescu: beauty, always hieroglyphic, distracts from alphabetic use of signifying tools.
mircea_popescu can't stand non-standard decks for eg bridge. if you wanna gawk, have the partner topless.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eh, there is that re playing
mircea_popescu: (topless girl bridge tournament is great because of the old lady player problem. which is, there's this subclass of player, often looking like dame olivier, who are VERY fucking tight players. this is great for them, as they usually win or at least place well, but terrible for the game, as it becomes dry.)
mircea_popescu: i want my #2 spot to be because i bid 6NT and made it on that obvioud 4h hand ; not because i always did 3s instead of 2s and shaved 10 points each time that way.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, ah, if you meant latin letters then I guess most of mine are "anglo" in this sense, yes; prolly just 2 or so actually Russian
trinque: uh, I can show anyone to a number of whataburgers that are black as hell
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: trinque: you figure fabrication on the part of the fired mgr?
trinque: I struggle to remember the last time I saw a white person behind the counter at waterburger
ben_vulpes: i have nfi in re the skin tone makeup of tallahasse
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's elaino's connection to that thing?
trinque: Silicon Valley sexism << baww
trinque: where's that fall on the grab-'em-by-the-pussy continuum?
mircea_popescu absolutely doubts wanna-be in the "spam fake acounts" game known as "online dating" actually contains anything but borroed pictures spit-jointed to bad prose written by a (male) grad student somewhere.
mircea_popescu: but then again this is i guess not directly obvious to the aspirational female.
mircea_popescu: the open question, of course, is whether associating with the actually rich, with the flauntingly rich, with the actually poor or with the pretend poor (such as you know, us pantsuit) is the better approach to not-staying-poor.
mircea_popescu: sadly the story behind that is that denni parkinson was there with HER BOYFRIEND, who's some photog there to shoot some bs about branson's hobby (some kind of new and improved surfing)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and self-same boyfriend proposed that prop #1 (his gf, with the tits) sit so and so with prop #2 (his client, with the gray hair) so HIS picture comes out good. which it did.
mircea_popescu: except the photog is not rich. well, not monetarily, anyway.
mircea_popescu: moreover -- branson is exactly another version of socialist state - krysha'd pseudo-entrepreneur, exactly like
mircea_popescu: eh wtf's his name, the one who sold some sports entertaining thing to yahoo and has been posturing as "entrepreneur" ever since.
mircea_popescu: his contribution to this world is "it's easy to make a small fortune in whatever -- start with a big one".
a111: Logged on 2017-09-20 02:01 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform found that 1) knuthian division can be sped up by ANOTHER factor of 2, by walking the bits of the quotient instead of shifting'em 2) barrett reduction in constant time is almost certainly possible
mircea_popescu: so now. what impact does any of this have on ... on who exactly ? denni dun wanna be rich, she wants to have fun.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i dun see any particular reason to swallow the Official story << I am surprised official story is not about the inequality of heights which provided a priviledged vantage point for shooter
a111: Logged on 2017-09-18 23:54 asciilifeform: is the 'obvious 2x speedup' alluded to earlier.
mircea_popescu: stephane gautronneau doesn't wanna be rich, he just wants to hang out with denni, except impersonally.
mircea_popescu: branson himself doesn't wanna be rich, as proven by the fact that whenever he almost gets rich, he blows it away.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i don't think this segmentation carries any water. it's not "workingclass or officeclass". it's not country or pop or rap or anything else. it's born before 1990 or not. << Jason Aldean is a "new country" act. Quarantined from both Country and other post-1990.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ftr i had nfi he existed. ( but this is not saying much ) << AHA, Cultural quarantine
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> apparently pro-trump d00d << And why quarantined. "us vs them" is great marketing
trinque: is the whole ffa posted anywhere?
mircea_popescu: o, speaking of "women in tech" : after thoroughly wrecking yahoo (eerily reminiscent of carly fiorina's "performance" at meanwhile disappeared compaq/hp), melissa meyer disappeared from view ; leaving verizon to pick up teh pieces.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: AHA, anyways. My suspicion is that this attack is along the lines of the Belleville terrorist who shot Congressional baseball practice claiming he was going to fix the tax brackets. Dude prolly was a pantsuit fan and figured anyone who'd go to "new country" festival is trump voter.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> o, speaking of "women in tech" : after thoroughly wrecking yahoo (eerily reminiscent of carly fiorina's "performance" at meanwhile disappeared compaq/hp), melissa meyer disappeared from view ; leaving verizon to pick up teh pieces. << Meyer was paid bonus to fuck off and disappear
mircea_popescu: which is i suppose the moral little girls learn out of watchingt the trade press : your future is as a whore ; will be paid TO LEAVE.
BingoBoingo: And Cuban is in unfortunate position of having to keep his fortune by running his bouncy ball team as a business, while everyone else runs theirs as a hobby
trinque: asciilifeform: I'll give it a crank on the ppc iron I have laying around; I think you requested that at some point
diana_coman: asciilifeform, if you don't mind me asking: why don't you chronicle all of those on your blog (where it would be easier to follow including historically at any point)?
diana_coman: can have discussion there in logs or here, reference is still there
mircea_popescu: she has a legitimate problem though -- interested parties can't follow the matter in their own time. it's currently push not pull, which is always a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: would be much better to have a working pullable infrastructure for your item, than to say this thing can't be pulled
mircea_popescu: so what is the idea here, if i wish to review the state of this, other than asking you, i could also what ? !#s ffa ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: at this rate we'll end up with metasyntactic. something like introduce @concept as a notation for concepts so they get indexed.
mircea_popescu: say @ffa instead of simply ffa so ppl can !#s "@ffa" and not get junk
mircea_popescu: searching for "@ffa" delivers @ffa-tronic, searching for ffa does not.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes, but if you do "ffa" you will get eg hoffa
ben_vulpes: phf's log search has a bifurcative behavior on the quotes
mircea_popescu: so then make space the @ ? this is stupid, space is alreadfy semantically loaded.
trinque: twitter kids and their hashtags aren't "wrong" so much as that they have nothing at all to say.
mircea_popescu: but it can'tself-standardize so everyone ends up with his own metasyntactic system
trinque: alternatively could be said that the log viewers ought to implement an annotation layer above the text
mircea_popescu: trinque amusingly hanbot was working on something in this vein
mircea_popescu: but turn it as you will, auctorial adnotation is very hard to beat.
trinque: asciilifeform: can totally work as a separate datastructure from logs, or in-band.
trinque: it's in no way self-evident that this MUST BE IN LOGS
trinque: how are you going to go back and annotate once a conversation diverges into an interesting topic
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 20:06 trinque: or what of the ancient logs
trinque: was a great idea but now you've buggered it up!
trinque: lol, nah, that does make sense.
trinque: then it's both in the logs, and the logger can do something interesting with it, if it can.
mircea_popescu: yeah, demanding anchors for our irc clients is tempting (i know many times i want to give my words as trilema refs directly, like say above cuban), but i suspect not so smart.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 03:31 elaineo: @mircea_popescu having never worked in finance, i suppose i'll take your word for it, for now
davout: this is going to end up in #trilema reinventing the semantic web
mircea_popescu: what do we do to people who spam it ? and most importantly, how ?
mircea_popescu: what happens if rando starts loading up "your" concept with bs ?
mircea_popescu: this is convenient seeing how not having to terminate is a + imo
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with having both `stalin and `cтaлин if anyone can be arsed with that.
diana_coman: myeah; and search shows it basically as separator
phf: also can definitely add notfrom: i almost think it should be there already as exclude or filter or somesuch
jhvh1: cruciform: The operation succeeded.
ag3nt_zer0: following the guide for trb node creation, in making sure i have correct packages and binaries, seems everything is fine but "sha512sum" read package lists, built dep. tree, read state info, and then says: E: Unable to locate package sha512sum - is this going to create problems and if so how might i fix?
shinohai: ag3nt_zer0: what 'nix are you using?
shinohai: That sgould be included in the core-utils package
shinohai: (So i am guessing an `apt-get install core-utils` should hook you up.)
ag3nt_zer0: yeah hmmm as i went through the required stuff listed on trb node setup page, all of them said "______ is already the newest version"... all except the sha512sum
shinohai: General rule is when getting a "E: Unable to locate package" msg in Ubuntu/Deb is to do an apt-cache search for said package.
ag3nt_zer0: same man... been workin a bunch thats about it