mircea_popescu: meanwhile in glorious timewastes, space arena! never was the true substance&tragedy of design as a cvasi-rational process so well captured in so little trapping! rarely will one find such a gem of a game, either! it's purrrfect.

mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as scientist "by himself". contrary to whatever mistaken notions poor schooling, science is a purely rational process ; the incommunicably stubborn self-directed bullshit ain't science ~except by accident~. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ive who buries random objects a foot apart in the dirt, fish like corn cobs alike, because that's what he's doing. even if the former returns empty handed and the latter happens to strike a combination that works, nothing changes : one's human and the other not, one's rational and the other's just some flavour of magician.

mircea_popescu: and speaking of empire of stupid, the "lead story" for the past coupla days has been this incredible idiocy piece about how the femstate discovering it does not actually have operational capacity to launch planes / bomb places anymore is nevertheless a good thing, because "humanitarian" or some dumb shit.

mircea_popescu: ie, "let's lie prettily to each other -- you, call us scientists notwithstanding we're social cases, like any other ghetto queen ( with just as absent child rearing skills) ; we call you rational notwithstanding you're fucked in the head"

mircea_popescu: billymg, some dood bought it in bankruptcy proceedings last year. "23 million '''''''''visitors''''''''' " commanded ~$1.5mn. contrasting with http://trilema.com/2011/evaluari-rationale-in-ro/#comment-86130 one can peg intervening inflation at 300% over seven years. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: "Digg Inc., a social-media pioneer once valued at more than $160 million, is selling for the deeply discounted price of about $500,000, three people familiar with the matter said." << back in 2012.

mircea_popescu: Mocky the only problem i see is that if this were true, it'd be the sisters, not the mothers. and there's actually an "unknown" (because pantsuit media ignores, so that matters, hurr) interest group pushing for raising the legal ban on this. they even have a whole rational argument, "since anticonceptionals..."

mircea_popescu: ie, there's a whole lotta aspirational buying and scant else besides.

mircea_popescu: ns, to the degree of not providing them with the requisite aspirational goods to enact the pretense and 3) he was ~critical~. there's even a moment at the "meeting with the writers" where he points out that he's not really taking them seriously, but maybe one day they manage to build an intellectual system that can take his criticism.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform post-rationality.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is so fucking retarded, "our thing does not implement the standard". RATIONALE ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894872 << he's not trapped, he could change them today to no ill effect. he just opts to be irrationally weird about it. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: can't locate now the discussion of danone giving out "free baby formula" to moronic (aka "aspirational") orc females just for long enough to suspend natural lactation, and etcetera.

mircea_popescu: cuz of course pseudo-rational process of fat female niggers stomped out rational process of traditional law, rather than the other way around,

mircea_popescu: generational fashions are something else.

mircea_popescu: i dunno, at this juncture i'm starting to suspect attemtping rational analysis is eminently wrong approach, not like it's a rational process.

mircea_popescu: as rational inquiry divorced longevity from religiosity, the claim lost its meaning, but it is ever present in strangeola like "smoking is a sin".

mircea_popescu: looky, management is a rational activity. there's nothing wrong with hanging kids for having failed to master spanish in two weeks -- just as long as you can answer as to how you came up wih the two weeks.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on meditation, that piece makes it plainly evident redditardation is ~generational~, not ideological. there sit the russki kids, who'd be in a fine position to understand the problem. god knows they have much better access to much better priors that readily illuminate it. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: 18th century "rationalist" paintings were very keen on the cadaver synod, but this is the pongo papacy.

mircea_popescu: if experience is any guide, heathens do not buy by rational criteria.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863981 << one idea is, most of these4 people prolly have a gf, who is possibly attempting to "live independently". talk to whatever aspirational class girlies do there ? "real estate agent" is it in latam ; maybe "expensive shop 5th avenue of doha" ? thjat was ~it in bucharest. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: now and again activity gotta be rationalized.

mircea_popescu: i don't think she dares ask, partly because she spent most of her life with engineers and partly because check out how irrational the process became the moment she showed up. this not common, this, freebased cvasicriticism, in the annals.

mircea_popescu: they fucked up the financial side, after managing to be the 1-in-100 that didn't fuck up the operational side.

mircea_popescu: the ~other~ good approach is 1. calculate average quality as a real ; 2. calculate the integer piles of consecutive qualities this reduces to (you'll never get an irrational value through 1, which in itself is a very itneresting lemma) ; 3. try all pile pairs in some (random ?) order for producing either of the two expected qualities. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: yes, "you understant how esltard chicks mate", dates, whatever. looky here : the cunt will fill up, there's no method. there's only fashion, and fashion's a) irrational and b) unreliable.

mircea_popescu: rather, tis the necessary blossom of bogart's "all that dun ammount to a hill of beans in this crazy world". the necessary result of the "rationalist" fallacy (seen sprawling in say http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828645 ) and the century reversal of the penile fixation (from stuffy vienna's "civilised world" anxiety of "what if dad cuts it off" to today's stuffy washington's "civilised world" anxity of "what if it plays t ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ~why~ did it have to change, and ~why~ was it there in the first place then. these gotta be addressed, wtf pseudo-rational process is this.

mircea_popescu: i dun recall, did you ever include the rationale, past "ben and i worked out" ?

mircea_popescu: notice as in, you know, actually notice, "omfg i can't believe what a shithead i am, missed out on the financial bitcoin train and then on the political too, i truly am too stuipid to fucking live" and subsequently blow their brains out, as any sort of rational process absolutely dictates...

mircea_popescu: specifically, writing software is not some kind of hired work, like polishing boots or cutting hair. writing software is a dignity, in the exact sense there contemplated : republic gives you, ivan ivanovich, a budget of so many lines, as if it were so many bitcoins, to ~EXPEND~ in a defensible, meaningful, useful an' rational fashion ( hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-07#1832667 discussion ). ☝︎

mircea_popescu: this led to a strict rejection of "modern science" and "the rational process", thereby implicitly of "modern democracy" (it was just as modern then, too) and so forth.

mircea_popescu: so then properly, the rationale is in the vpatches, something like that.

mircea_popescu: (and i'll point out that the eulora movement away from prices-because-prices to prices-for-these-reasons that's been evident in the coupla years past is very much of this exact same substance. a rational universe, plox, had enough of the emotional one.)

mircea_popescu: that's not just a word / "something you say" / etc, we're not doing word salad, we're doing ASTs for lack of a better term, there's trees everywhere at the basis of and underneath expression, and those trees are sorted and organized by rational criteria.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile charles gildon is the bad because a) male and b) said the bad about HEROINES OF FEMINISM. and Edmund Curll is just as bad, because he was friends with that baddie gildon. notwithstanding ~100% of what the aspirational class is all the fuck about is, "being a curll of the 21st century", no more and nothing else. somehow the hero of neets is not remarkable to the very neets in question.

mircea_popescu: since there is no ~possibility~ of rational merit in the deluge of proposals coming his way and no method allowing him to distinguish between sokal items and science, would it take much for his decision process to become political ?

mircea_popescu: zx2c4, understand the full model of this : ambitious people whose hardware does not support their aspirations (ie, the aspirational 14%) say things that are not true. such as "we did research of so and so". now and again, they happen on a useful lie, something the establishment does not actually want researchedf. so they get a little slop, to encourage them to continue with their nonsense, while their imago is then used to pe

mircea_popescu: that's the substance of "costs more than gf" -- resources, spent ; hoops, not jumped. "irrational" behaviour in the imperial contractual sense.

mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if not a full half of the aspirational 14% is firmly convinced there's MORE THAN ONE man hour / hour spent by me/usg/god/aliens/whoever specifically on their case.

mircea_popescu: ely equivalent to "let an ultralarge integer be defined as that integer which is larger than all irrational numbers."

mircea_popescu: (tl;dr : pantsuit spazzing out over fundamental challenge to their "rationalist" ideals whereby "discussion is only for arguments", "characterization is noise" and all the rest of the "we are an equal bunch that can never be punched" "science")

mircea_popescu: "but mp, you agree the cardinal of the set of all the things that can be represented is larger than the cardinal of the set of all the things that can be" "of course" "so then you say the set of things that are necessarily contains the set of things that can be represented ?" "yes" "but this is self-contradictory!" "hurr. there's more reals than there's rationals, and the happenstance that each rational can be denoted as an i

mircea_popescu: in any case, all to the last of the paralogic, cvasirational behaviours of the neet, the pantsuit, the modern man generally all come back to this exact problem, of misrepresenting ontology as a subset of gnoseology, "things that exist are those among the things that are said which also had the 'exists' attribute set."

mircea_popescu: phf it means it does not map to any sort of rational, coherent, non-contradictory model of the world.

mircea_popescu: moreover, there's exactly ZERO discussion of this anywhere. major, undeclared fork passing uncommented for what, a decade ? is this the level of "rational" idiocy in these muppets ?

mircea_popescu: "having experienced several variants, i find it now saves time just to adopt the irrational position from the start." <<->> http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ ; it is better to ignore random noise before examining it for coherence than after.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't say i'm tempted. the structure still can not be predicated on the meaning, what am i going to do, argue with the "rationally skeptical" http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-16#509012 ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: this isn't a rational, reality-bound, economics-driven process, after all. pure hallucinatoria, just add verbiage.

mircea_popescu: the other issue is that the exacting standards part of the binome aren't exacting to a ~rational~ standard, they're exacting to a psychogenic standard. he's perfectly willing to take steps to alienproof his sub because he's seen alien pirates board a sub in a B movie once, that's the standard, what he can ~imagine~ occuring, not so much what he has good reason to believe may occur.

mircea_popescu: which is why the deductive-rational process is actually irrational.

mircea_popescu: an actual rational process ?

mircea_popescu: i would certainly consider selling ; now take the next hour and consider the matter THOROUGHLY, before you come back to promise me that you're actually acting rationally, rather than psychotically trying to further a dream on the flimsy fuel of injured self-image.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779424 << i entirely expect this. it helps to think of all of orclands, which is to say all asia, africa and south/central america as nations of scavengers with a thin layer of aspierational idiots approximately floating atop it. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i have no idea why rational behaviour would be expected, or rational explanation for misbehaviour would be demanded of items that clearly lack either agency or reflective capacity.

mircea_popescu: wasn't ever much more than alt-flavour "rational" w/e pantsuit flavour

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766252 << jews aside, any view which fails to priviledge the past is irrational inescapably. very much a case of "to have idea -- first must not be idiot". the futurists are all to the last man irrecoverable hipster doofuses, fundamentally incapable of distinguishing anything from anything else. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: would have realized the insanity of requiring the verbose end-tags and the stupid syntax. XML-RPC and SOAP and the like could have been fairly inexpensive things. But, alas, people prefer buggy text formats that they can approximate rather than precise binary formats that follow general rules that are make them as easy to use as text formats. Rationality is not part of the SGML philosophy, however, and SDIF was mainly an effo

mircea_popescu: about 75% of the memory to reconstruct the identical in-memory version of the document. This experiment was among the many data points that led me to conclude that SGML is insane and that those who think it is rational to require parsing of character data at each and every application interface are literally retarded and willfully blind. Also, an SDIF data stream can only represent a validated document and the kinds of error

mircea_popescu: sit your ass down for one cottonpicking moment, and consider the fact that you're the fellow who, IN THE SAME DAY, deduced that "nobody reads x" on the basis of "i read it every day and never found x.y". this, somehow, was a rational deduction that passed your filter. THEN you proceeded to threaten its-not-exactly-clear whom with burial, over their threats to steal your printer. and THEN you went off the deep end wrt to some

mircea_popescu: trinque gotta force emergence of sanity through some sort of rational process.

mircea_popescu: and mind all ye of the "aspirational" demographic, all ye dumb pantsuited hussies : the sword keeps right on cutting after it cut the slice you wanted.

mircea_popescu: what, it's going to stay irrational EVEN LONGER THAN FOREVER ?

mircea_popescu: but the baked in assumption is that big ape stays rational ~forever~, and this still doesn't sum up to anything good for it.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745811 << quite. and it works especially well on idiots, which is to say agents devoid of examinatory capacity. the higher your subjective cost per mile "walked", the more feasible imperial rationalization is. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ceo is an operational management position.

mircea_popescu: get this : arab 30yos with no wealth (sheep, camels, women) and no prospects, fascinated by eg chet (happenstantially i was the definitive arab world aspirational immage, young man with older white woman in tow) talked TO ME about it. not to her.

mircea_popescu: the rationale is that there ~might~ be some approaches based on pre-established exponents. this is vague, but still, why magic number.

mircea_popescu: on a side note, if you ever wondered whence the "transhumanist" etc-rationalistrs come from, check out this little gem teh loney uncovered in my absence : http://trilema.com/2010/calea-spre-idiotenie/#comment-123389

mircea_popescu: this is the aspirational of the arab refugees, move in work land.

mircea_popescu: and WHY google's "activists only -- not bloggers" project shield will take on an ~aspirational figure~ from the "seo community".

mircea_popescu: let aside that property is the first, and only right that matters, for as long as i have property i will bring back all the other crap as needed ; whereas without property all the rest is entirely not worth the mention and we can really start calling each other tavarisch, there being no further need of any pretense in the vein of courts, or for that matter any other rationalisms.

mircea_popescu: flecting people's marital status and assets. Consequently, courts only need to use rational basis review. Rational basis review, the most deferential review of legislative action, requires two steps. First, courts must determine whether these statutes attempt to promote any legitimate state interest or public value. If so, courts must determine whether the statuttes and classifications created are rationally related to accomp

mircea_popescu: but then again this is i guess not directly obvious to the aspirational female.

mircea_popescu: yes "anticolonialism" was bullshit, but not because it destroyed a supposed rational approach of the colonisers. it was bullshit because it exactly mirrored "civil rights" at home, ie was driven by INTERnationalistic, socialist elite-wannabes.

mircea_popescu: it's funny, what multi-generational retards the us breeds.

mircea_popescu: not really. pretty much everything that's pompously called "bayesian statistics" in the "rationalist" circles (not just the self-labeled internet tards, but eg googleheads) is simply lifted laplace / serials shaved off.

mircea_popescu: "can't emerge world" "tried ./rational.ist on it ?"

mircea_popescu: rational.ist ; empir.ist and so on

mircea_popescu: so basically, either a slut (cock comes through the glory hole, i suck it, what do you want from me) or else a fanatic (allah told me!). otherwise, thinking man has no alternative but to be rationalist ?

mircea_popescu: in particular phf what'd be the name for "opinions and actions based on "i don't see anything wroing with it"" ? still rationalist ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704893 << what'd be the alternative to the rationalist without quotes here ? like an existentialist say ? or perhaps an "artist" ? ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: major operational degrading.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701848 << "the us navy" "inexplicably" forgets to correctly state "as mp has long pointed out on trilema, we are not actually either battle capable or operationally ready ; just like the rest of the usg." ☝︎

mircea_popescu: easy to condemn this as "a mistake retrospectively", especially if one has nfi what sort of demands an operational approach places on the labour pool.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701546 << when ceausescu died there was a very brief revival "we shall roar" orc thing because ~most of us ops in eastern europe got killed / the rest fled. so there was a bit of pushback, all the way to killing dudes way in chicago. it didn't last, principally because sometime mid 90s the decision was taken (by the russkis) the way forward is economical not operational. so ss went the cia w ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57794de3f7e0ab3baff27ef0/t/58016d50b8a79bb988dd115d/1476488617465/seth-bannon-and-ela-madej-fifty-yearsjpg << "Ela and Seth are great at bringing operational efficiency to our company, including both managing tasks and team motivation. They’re able to do such a good job because they’ve walked the journey and built great companies. " — Harry Gandhi, Co-founder & CEO, Medella Health

mircea_popescu: this has been the worst explanation of a rationale in recorded history. care to do it over ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform other than the butthurt of matt levine, who apparently holds the irrational impacted belief that usg matters/has a future against all possibnle evidence, what about that piece ?

mircea_popescu: anyway, rather lulzy nonsense. "because it rejects the decay started with the age of pantsuit, it therefore is irrationalist". because totally, the french communists invented thinking.

mircea_popescu: ahahaah check that retarded shit out, jury actually came out with a guilty verdict. because "it's terribly terribly bad some loser bit it" and that's good enough a rationale.

mircea_popescu: natural language is useless for any serious rational purpose without endless washing and starching. math does not suffer from the same problem.

mircea_popescu: again, irrational numbers are the problem. pix+e is not "algebraic" in this sense.

mircea_popescu: moreover, even something as simple as "discern if bitstream X is a linear function with an irrational parameter" is beyond what can be established.

mircea_popescu: whether you are obeying the words of darius, the greatest man-god to walk the sands around babylon, carried to your ears by a stout fellow in weird pajamas ; or the echoes of the voice of some dumb woman nobody liked, whom you'de irrationalyl decided is important beyond all else in nature ; or the strange flickers of a tube which "is impersonal and therefore truthful, pay no attention at the jew behind the screen", in point o

mircea_popescu: if you pretend "rationality" ie "i fucking love science" ie, meaning-afore-authority to be the prime mover.

mircea_popescu: ie active poor, ie aspirational class, ie 100% of usg by mass.

mircea_popescu: this shit isn't in any sense rational. it's not properly speaking belief, like some believe jesus gives a shit about them or whatever, moses turned piss to vinegar. this is more like fatlogic, a convenient and therefore self-perpetuating earworm. whatever the problem, they'll just pretend like it's caused by you know, something somewhere being left behind, like they're playing old sierra quest games.