mircea_popescu: anyway. in my admittedly pedestrian clinical experience, it was NEVER the myokines that limit muscle mass. it's always kidney clearance, lung efficiency and liver capacity for glycogenesis in this order.
mircea_popescu: ie, when people who are out of shape get the fuck back in shape, it is THESE ORGANS that expand first, and most.
mircea_popescu: which is why the fuck "exercise is healthy" in the first place.
mircea_popescu: there was a lot of the nonsense floating about, esp cca 1940s and 50s. back when they belieft.
mircea_popescu: this is always an unfair comparison for the esltards, because all other languages being spoken by man over time have built in ridiculous protectors.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, linked in my last. talk about premonitory.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 21:39 kanzure: "and as such they're not only infinite and uncountable, but even undefined" but isn't this what calibration is for. you communicate with people because you are trying to callibrate collective goal behavior shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform always how this happens. it wasn't the generatio nthat slept in cow dung under the biting western wind that thought cowboy is tough guy
mircea_popescu: nobody thought himself a hero for being at verdun. more like an idiot, really.
mircea_popescu: anyway, amusingly enough that exact outlook, 'world of plenty', 'infinite resources', 'as soon said as done', 'just needs to be managed and komyoonitiorganized' resulted in the panic of 1837.
mircea_popescu: i talked of it a little somewhere, it's very amusingly similar
mircea_popescu: (the systemic shock then was the europeans, not the chinese, taking their gold back home. the us survived that one.)
mircea_popescu: at the risk of splitting hairs, that's possibly a different strand of the same coli.
kanzure: 10 billion food vouchers can be printed if you would like to shut them up the hilarious way
kanzure: they could even eat the vouchers if you'd like
mircea_popescu: lol. finally, 3d printing on biological material that matters! USE EXPANDED RICE!
kanzure: oh print the voucher on the rice? i've been doing it wrong i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform arguably the "world of plenty" "boundless bounty of this is our land" is one kind of nativist ; whereas assignats more of a frenchypoof thing.
mircea_popescu: kanzure yes, the chinese fortune cookie see ? include the blessing with the meal. "by order of our most supreme government, you are obligated and alloweds to eat this"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now ask me what is the diff between polar and cartesian coord systems.
mircea_popescu can't help but visualize endless expanded rice cakes, painted with the required assignats drawings. sort of like e-stamps, only edible.
mircea_popescu: kanzure 188 wpm sorta top speed ? that's pretty impressive.
kanzure: it's a completely useless skill
kanzure: (these are real-time transcripts. nobody has time to go back and type. i just do it in real-time.)
a111: Logged on 2014-10-27 21:05 los_pantalones: mircea_popescu i can't believe how much $ the ledgerX guys raised
kanzure: that was one month after i was onboarded
kanzure: so yeah they did not have diligence until i showed up
kanzure: i never asked to be listed there
mircea_popescu: wait, you are telling me you are working at company x BECAUSE you work there, not so that you're on the //heres-some%20stock-photos-stolen-from-internets.htmk page ?!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 22:14 kanzure: well originally my purpose (that's right i said it) of bringing this up with mircea_popescu was to query his preferences regarding thermonuclear war err i mean eugenics err i mean direct participation in technology development for genome engineering projects
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 22:15 kanzure: if things are so willy wonka in here that one cannot apply effort to directed intentional behavior then i'm not really sure how to communicate
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 22:21 trinque: yudsy's basillisk does not flow back through time in-order-to bring about itself.
mircea_popescu: maybe that's why alf's ecoli were so uncooperative. basiliskation.
kanzure: so far the only form of 'resource allocation' that i can peg you down for is re: something something 'protection of friendlines from idiocy'
mircea_popescu: the republic fabricates its own hardware, building towards a complete stack. not to mention its own software, idem.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's a state, like any other. well, better than most, at least in tech terms.
mircea_popescu: aite, so it's this item that factors privkeys. has the whole db of pgp and ssh keys.
mircea_popescu: kanzure ftr, does your pdfparanoia thing also wipe the yellow printer dots ?
kanzure: no just the ip address stuff
kanzure: i do not have a sample of yellow printer dots in academic papers to work from. if you have a sample, i'll be happy to debug that.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: why not ? woulda saved that chicks bacon, what was her name.
kanzure: so it turns out, i was the reason why she got doxxed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do we have the famous pdf unicorn-coconut or whatever took to the inept competition instead of bringing to qntra, resulting in a jail term for her ?
☟︎ kanzure: i met her in 2010 at a harvard transhumanism conference. i recognized her profile pic (rotated) on a scihub site.
kanzure: and i said so on irc in 2013. and i think i doxxed her and now i kind of feel bad about that.
mircea_popescu: not exactly what i want. it should work with arbitrary user provided links ; and it should specifically spit out the format required.
mircea_popescu: (most of the heavy lifting consists of OCR, mind you. that's the core of the job.)
kanzure: you'll have to find someone else to do as much
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 01:02 kanzure: i do not have a sample of yellow printer dots in academic papers to work from. if you have a sample, i'll be happy to debug that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see the merit in using the actual item though.
kanzure: pdfparanoia strips the "YOUR IP ADDRESS IS 127.0.0.1" from the margins of pdfs.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 18:15 BingoBoingo: So the politics of "Reality Winner" is a bottomless lulz spiral.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what diff does that make. still the same dumbass FLUXBABBIT!!!11 nonsense
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 00:48 mircea_popescu: the republic fabricates its own hardware, building towards a complete stack. not to mention its own software, idem.
kanzure: is this yours. it says mpex.
mircea_popescu: what else did you miss, lessee, the 1k btc berkshire bet ?
kanzure: i am really, really illiterate. i live in a different world.
mircea_popescu: the lulzarmageddon on something awful, "oh bitcoin is useless" "really ? here's a dork shoving crayons in his ass for bitcoin" "OMFG porn and winning unpopular arguments are now bannable offenses on something awful" ?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
kanzure: ya the miners were trying to propose a centralized organization.
kanzure: no i mean coercing me into saying things that i don't believe
kanzure: you're asking me why miners would want a central organization to control bitcoin....?
kanzure: e.g. vouch for various hard-forks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remember the days when "teh cartel didn't exist" ?
mircea_popescu: "'I think his followers actually kind of excommunicated him after he lost their bitcoins." as opposed to "he actually blew up the early feelers of teh cartel a year ago, we're STILL butthurt about it".
kanzure: block content is actually not sufficient. even if you include a nonce (like a private key) plus the previous block content, you don't actually get what you need there in the sha3 proposal.
kanzure: one way i was thinking was something like, move the transaction merkle root out of the blockheader, eliminate the block header, full transaction list must be transmitted in order to verify PoW. unfortunately gmaxwell broke this in 3 seconds (because midstate).
a111: Logged on 2017-03-01 19:32 asciilifeform: ooook try this on for size : suppose fixed-width TX (as discussed earlier.) T(N) is the Nth tx, T(0) is the first tx in genesis block, etc. Tmax is the last tx in the currentheightblock.
kanzure: can you riterate the value of proving they have a copy of the blockchain. what you really need is a proof that everyone else has a copy of the blockchain (e.g. all utxo owners sign the damn content).
kanzure: so, miners having a copy of an invalid blockchain is sort of irrelevant
kanzure: they can have many invalid things, as long as they choose to broadcast the valid thing
kanzure: so, i had a proposal a while back where i pushed that question to the edges instead of to the miners; e.g. a bitcoin address scheme where it requires interactive querying to determine whether the recipient is actually running a node (because why would you send coins to a monkey that isn't running the bitcoin protocol).
kanzure: well, i agree, however you can include a private key in the scheme, and if the user is outsourcing their private key they are dumb anyway
kanzure: yea you can prove that they are hashing a value of blocchain content (or doing rule validation) with the presence of a secret nonce, etc.
kanzure: i think the most mature construction was one that was solely about utxo set and/or blockchain content, not rule validation (besides: they could be running a fake client that solely does these rule validation protocols or whatever, and then they don't actually run a node in the end)
mircea_popescu: kanzure you can't put that sort of burden on key generation. he has a point with the babbage quote, you're trying to put contraryt things in the same box.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something like pubkey = hash(hash(privkey+proofstring) . privkey). you publish the pubkey AND the hash(privkey+proofstring) component. then when spending they check that indeed the proofstring component was correct.
mircea_popescu: even without going into any discussion re what is a "proper" proofstring.
mircea_popescu: you are discussing the composition of said proofstring ; i was giving the ur-example of what he's talking about, "make USERS prove they have the blockchain, not miners".
mircea_popescu: for one thing because i want to be able to spend by hand.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, * Topic for ##hplusroadmap is: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal Death Administration (5 times)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: user pays for tx via fee. that's 100% all he has to do. if he should pay more, let the fee be more. there's not going to be any tack-ons in kind, it's a monetary system not fucking 1800s serfdom.
mircea_popescu: the problem is not one of proof, here, and it is imperial nonsensemachine to misrepresent it in terms of proof.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: funnily enough, BchE is ~the~ preantidote. inject couplea grams, and walk right through vx. << AHA, an innovation to revolutionize pest control!
mircea_popescu: the problem is that the money users pay is pocketed by the miners for mining ; whereas it should be pocketed by miners + nodes for mining + noding.
mircea_popescu: as oft discussed, the current system excists as does because satoshi was a lazy thinker.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-25 23:22 mircea_popescu: basically nodes are the digital equivalent of women : men fuck them so the state can have babies. hurr durr, pill plox.
mircea_popescu: wtf is alt-right literature for my curiosity ? not ann raynd and such i hope ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you run a grep on the site over my name or what
mircea_popescu: hey, for every single articulation there's multiple positions, and the shit we dabble in is many articulations long. combinatorial explody.
mircea_popescu: so basically, this is a sort of republic-like, some people got together trying to do [what their idea of] good is. not nearly as dead as cat-v.org thing for instance.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: d00d had some quite musculatured, and not otherwise mutilated ( as far as anybody could tell ) rat << And time + selective breeding some well built bulls in Belgium
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 20:26 asciilifeform: 'whaddayamean you won't eat from the trough' 'not a swine? everybody's a swine, and you're an elitist swine' etc
mircea_popescu: eh. think of it this way, if people didn't have barriers at all they'd be goo.
mircea_popescu: every membrane will have a pore. it's only natural. dja know the joke with the horny bear ?
kanzure: if operatig the yudkowsy parody twitter account for five years is insufficient to convince you that i absolutely hate the person, then what would?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with the current crop of kids is that they're so used to have OTHERS pick their reading materials for them.
mircea_popescu: be it in school, on reddit, whatever. as a result, have deeply nfi about relatively fundamental, basic stuff, and WAY too much familiarity with relatively irrelevant fringe extensions of minor alt-theories in obscure fields.
☟︎☟︎ kanzure: hash functions are supposed to look like noise you dolt
mircea_popescu: ie, "why do you know so much about string theory ?" "because im on this biker forum and this guy steve keeps posting articles about it" "yes but... it's neither that important nor interesting" "i dunno"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz we're patient and tolerant and i have a houseful of teenagers, mr grouch.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo aha! it's like mp-berylium that thing, totally reflects my memory rays.
kanzure: claiming that it's not supposed to look like noise (explicitly after saying that was your goal) is just insane
kanzure: well you didn't say it; but let's stick to the deriving-from-authority concept eh?
mircea_popescu: kanzure fluid respiration does happen, and has happened since the 70s. it's not even that costly, biologically. lung NUTRITION however is impossibru.
mircea_popescu: hydration is prolly going to emphysema-kill you in weeks at the most. sorta in-between
kanzure: yeah i don't think existing lungs would be a good thing to subject to that. i haven't given it much thought.
mircea_popescu: but ftr, lungs aren't awful. especially human lungs are jewels imo.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you ever had the opportunity to see lung tissue under good magnification, but it's a wonder.
kanzure: "gas everyone with food" just seemed like an appealing thing to momentarily speculat eabout.
kanzure: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu seems to be better at reading logs than you :-)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in summary, it's impossible to make sense of the leaves of a merkle tree that you don't have the root for, is what he's saying.
kanzure: mircea_popescu: so do you just claim a monopoly on discipline or what
kanzure: this was re: the power conversation
mircea_popescu: i used the term metaphorically. the convo sounds like noise to you because you don't accept/have the priors. which priors he'd propose are a different authority structure.
kanzure: yes i understand it's merely a metaphor; i think asciilifeform did too.
kanzure: asciilifeform: the stuff about hash functions was re: what exercise of power does mircea_popescu historically engage in. and then you quoted things from the logs. it wasn't that long ago.
kanzure: and then you come to me and argue that you guys aren't meant to look like noise....?
mircea_popescu: anyway, re lungs, as im a fan apparently : gas exchange happens through a wonderful bevy of yet poorly understood fluid/fluid phenomena. there's some true space tech going on in there.
kanzure: asciilifeform: ah you mean that is one such example. fine.
mircea_popescu: kanzure i'll tell you, i read the log every day, first thing, chiefly because it's the higherst snr item i know of. so not really noisy, no.
kanzure: i don't mean the log i just mean your goals and behavior
mircea_popescu: i actually dun have goals. if you measure an absence you'll get noise definitionally, what else.
kanzure: so you are a leaf riding some gust of wind. fine.
mircea_popescu: there's no semantic manipulation, i mean it quite literally. when i say chains i mean chains ; when i say whips i mean whips.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 20:37 mircea_popescu: A student told his friend, "My teacher has amazing powers. He moves a pen in the air and characters appear on a piece of paper held on the other side of the river. What does your master do?" His friend replied "My great master follows Zen. When he is hungry, he eats and when he is tired he sleeps."
kanzure: alright so you're an instructor... just like 400 million other idiots.
kanzure: (actually it's not that bad. there's probably less than 400 million of them.)
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 03:28 mircea_popescu: be it in school, on reddit, whatever. as a result, have deeply nfi about relatively fundamental, basic stuff, and WAY too much familiarity with relatively irrelevant fringe extensions of minor alt-theories in obscure fields.
mircea_popescu: kanzure re "broken while uploaded" : tell fenn phuctor has not just all the pgp keys ; but also all the ssh keys, though apparently not the one for his home computer. and to stop being so superficial wtf.
mircea_popescu: but then again this is how the whole "democracy" derp dies, "publish the data so people who don't have the time to study it don't study it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : in other news, cat *.log | wc -l > 1231786.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1231786 / 365 / 5 = 674.9512328767123
mircea_popescu: what's the noise level here, 500-1k lines a day or something like that. about same.
mircea_popescu: time has a splendid way of resolving such uncertainties.
mircea_popescu: i think one of the major advantages of my not living there is starting to shape itself pretty clearly. you're rather reactively allergic, aren't you alfie.
BingoBoingo: 'bay aryan' is just another way of spelling 'gay carrion'
mircea_popescu: nobody's doing it. this is like "i want him so shot fulla lead, it's practically a 2x2 lead sheet he impacts with".
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 20:03 mircea_popescu: the stupid cunt universally depicted in movies comes from the boston common, a one square mile area of little distinction.
mircea_popescu: yeah. complete ablation not the way to go, even the mongols left a blind and a deaf man to tell the story.
mircea_popescu: 16:53 < nmz787> hmm, there's a new biotech thing starting on the floor below genspace (or at least where genspace was) << i wonder if this sorta thing ever gives them any pause.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform saw the lulzy part where superficial fenn correctly identifies usg as "a bunch of neonazis that want to gas everybody except themselves" ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. kinda not so much there that i want to read other days on its basis.
mircea_popescu: kanzure recommend a coupla good log days in your estimation if you will.
mircea_popescu: hey. there's nothing wrong with ilya muromets kills the koschei. BUT! there's also nothing wrong when koschei kills all the fucktarded uppity youth who weren't ilya.
BingoBoingo: From the WhatTheFun mines: "I come from the Houston area and have been heartbroken about the damage and scenes from Harvey. I decided to donate $250 and asked my girlfriend if she would match it. She agreed, and then when I asked if she had given to the Red Cross or someone else, I learned that she donated to the Humane Society. I know she’s absolutely nuts about animals, especially our own dogs, but to give to animals when people are
BingoBoingo: in trouble seems heartless to me. She’s much more politically active than I am, and I finally asked if she did that to avoid the possibility of giving money to someone who voted for Trump, and she admitted that was one of the reasons. I think that’s awful, and we’ve been fighting about it ever since. She thinks as a gay woman I should see her side, but I just can’t."
mircea_popescu: fun fact : dogs grab pussy all teh time ; would have all voted trump.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nothing hates old women society as much as dogs do. << lettuce not forget the Human Society's other priority, the cats! Cats who fleece old women society while snorting catnip and other drugs during pussy grabbing orgies.
BingoBoingo: Companion animals are deeply alt-conservative.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4380.0, vol: 6935.74503788 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4377.4, vol: 16393.35961664 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4390.0, vol: 3588.52097016 | Volume-weighted last average: 4379.74969838
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704716 << i don't think it matters which faction of ultra rationalist posthumanists you belong to. either way the nature of your misunderstanding of tmsr take certain predictable shape, and so are your interests, etc. nobody thinks that you literally suck yudkowsky's cock, but personally i don't even care.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 03:26 kanzure: if operatig the yudkowsy parody twitter account for five years is insufficient to convince you that i absolutely hate the person, then what would?
phf: there was a wiki in 2005 or so, called "mentat wiki". i think it was cool not so much for the content as the premise. it was supposed to be a collection of techniques for memory recall, arithmetic, problem solving, that sort of stuff.
phf: but i think it was cool as a kind of roleplay toy "learn all these tricks and you'll be just like a mentat from dune"
☟︎ phf: but the name was obviously tongue in cheek
phf: my impression is all that lesswrong, rationalwiki, yudkowsky, etc. is basically mentat wiki that took itself seriously.
kanzure: you're still lumping me in with the "rationalists"?
shinohai catches up on megalog with coffee .... [~]D
phf: well, that aside wasn't about you, but about yudkowsky.
phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist".
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 02:59 asciilifeform: 'can't use bitcoin PERIOD' unless you have a proper, honest motherfucking node, with ALL the blocks' is the Right Thing.
shinohai: (Many thanks to mod6 for such eloquent words)
kanzure: phf: that sounds like something else. the lesswrong folx are moron navelgazers. yes it makes sense to "use thinking" but not if the output is just a pile of ponyfic and fearmogering.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:07 phf: it is certainly because you haven't found the right pdfs
kanzure: asciilifeform: what projects would you like to see specifically? didn't like the electroporator?
☟︎ kanzure: prefering solid state lasers to co2 tubes is not a crime. but you're welcome to chase ancient tech.
kanzure: interesting how you dismiss the possibility of "hand work" by some irc logs. i guess his equipment is totally fake, huh. (wtf?)
trinque: quote logs or gtfo, seriously.
trinque: this sloppiness is not how threads go in the forum.
kanzure: yes i'm sure things are usually like this (asciilifeform making up bullshit)
☟︎ kanzure: like i said, this all seems like a bunch of noise. you're welcome to haphazardly flounce around but at least be honest with as much.
trinque: !!rate kanzure -1 No one here need prove himself to you.
trinque: !!v B66761AE8F397CA668DD9E96E7E180BD55F68139DDA31A79C37BAA98C8D6087F
deedbot: trinque rated kanzure -1 << No one here need prove himself to you.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 15:30 kanzure: yes i'm sure things are usually like this (asciilifeform making up bullshit)
shinohai: This is a single achievement btw .... asciilifeform is responsible for `V` which I also consider a product.
kanzure: i thin there are >1 kw laser diodes
☟︎ kanzure: i think generally we should prefer less breakable things; i'm not convinced that the non-tubes should be expensive.
kanzure: this is sounding more and more like a market. there's even demand. hmm.
kanzure: do you know why the laser diodes are expensive?
kanzure: ugh i hope not. that would be the stupidest reason.
☟︎ kanzure: apparently you forgot the reason why i entered. i had a question and it has been answered ("nah we only do noise- it's intentional though, so it's okay to be worthless.")
kanzure: it's literally the answer i was given
☟︎ kanzure: do you mean the electroporator? which thing are you buying and why?
kanzure: that's not something 've been working on. so i'm not sure it merits surprise that i don't have one?
kanzure: hplc in 2007 no that doesn't sound right. might have been someone else.
kanzure: that's a reasonable request. i'll make catalog.
☟︎ kanzure: i bought a FIB recently btw. have you played with one?
kanzure: yea had to get a forklift to move this thing
kanzure: yes i am not sure why everyone wants to obsess over 28nm these days.
kanzure: FIB was recently acquired, currently sitting in crate, needs to be uncrated at goon house
kanzure: just in case it works? haha
kanzure: infinite floor space is located right next to my mobious strip
☟︎ kanzure: no it's literally someone's house.
trinque: I still hold that wording it that way is ass-backwards.
trinque: asciilifeform: it is because of the size of your head that the problem must fit in it, neh?
kanzure: clarify "100% nato-free workers comp" ?
trinque: "goal" is being used as a placeholder for the macro-expanded version which lines up the causes
☟︎ kanzure: why took so long for the black ice storm whatever clifford wolfyap fpga stuff?
kanzure: "oh no i'll have to figure out an acid bath" siliconpr0n.org guy seems to do it regularly
kanzure: like errors when reading the nth dram cell matter
kanzure: anyway what was the goal, i thought it was established that circuit was insufficient, given doping layer trojans (yes there was a follow-up article but it was dumb)
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 02:36 asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'
kanzure: why do you have goals but mp not
kanzure: are you about to start quoting galtse.cx to me
trinque: ah look he's on dick pulling again
kanzure: no i don't have an answer, i just have peripheral knowledge of this type of attack, not specific masks to go attack RNGs
kanzure: are you willing to accept sufficiently shit fpgas? you can do something like massive buffering of the bitstream and then do analysis to check for known circuits in a lookup table :\.
kanzure: notably annoying when setting the bitstream up
kanzure: illiteracy does not seem to be a serious concern around here
☟︎ kanzure: i pretend to read all kinds of languages, but mostly english
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> it's literally the answer i was given << I can't find this re-reading log at all
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> yea had to get a forklift to move this thing << Do you still have forklift? What kind, is it for sale?
BingoBoingo: trinque: How is the ongoing weather? Perhaps submit a piece on that if reallity differs from what is on tv?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:39 kanzure: you could safely argue it would look like a plot of the sha256 function against a graph, but i would also be surprised to hear that
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Ah, was hoping maybe you had something cool you were looking to unload.
kanzure: BingoBoingo: i unloaded the FIB from a trailer, if that's what you mean.
kanzure: (i didn't. it was someone else. but you get it.)
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Well, cheap used forklifts are like anything else. There's collector's markets, enthusiast clubs, and modding hobbyists. Though mebbe you'd picked up a cheap one.
kanzure: do people put flame stickers on forklifts and sell higher?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in which vein : coupla weeks ago saw angry forklift beeping while driving down this hill road (like 15% incline, crazy serpentines etc)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sweet, was it one of those little toyota LPG trucks?
mircea_popescu: had to have the lift raised or else would have suspended itself
mircea_popescu: no, it was very much a supermarket forklift, plain and simple
BingoBoingo: The electrics tend to not be roadable at all. 4 points base instead of 3, etc
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Well, sometimes a big oem doesn't make a truck that quite exactly fits your job or your site
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Those things are fun. Like a morbidly obese golf cart.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 12:57 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704716 << i don't think it matters which faction of ultra rationalist posthumanists you belong to. either way the nature of your misunderstanding of tmsr take certain predictable shape, and so are your interests, etc. nobody thinks that you literally suck yudkowsky's cock, but personally i don't even care.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704886 << my understanding of " a mentat from dune" was "a guy who takes a lot of showers", rather than what i discovered later was the general us view on the matter, "guy who does lots of xword puzzles". i have nfi where that typically 80s idea "xword puzzles make you smart" came from.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 13:24 phf: but i think it was cool as a kind of roleplay toy "learn all these tricks and you'll be just like a mentat from dune"
mircea_popescu: yes, i did read the original coupla books, as a 15yo boy.
mircea_popescu: ie, like a very beautiful girl ; not like a very well trained $sport boy.
mircea_popescu: right. which is why in my mind it's represented as a sort of you know, moon. "you can't reboot the machine without knowing what it's doing"
mircea_popescu: you can't train into being moon ; and if you are moon you can train while playing civ or golden axe. i know i did.
mircea_popescu: indeed. and much of the result is that it creates different notions in different people.
mircea_popescu: but you're very much correct, and yes, the #1 skill of mp-writer is exactly "do not specify".
mircea_popescu: it's plain to notice, too, all the fanfic porn on literotica or whatever always has these stat cards, "she was so and so and tits like that and the other".
mircea_popescu: that ain't literature anymore than memory-trained monkey is thinker.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:35 mircea_popescu: because the political power is a super-2 exponential on smarts, whereas cost is a logarithmic on stupidity, it's very easy to be powerful hanging out with smart people. almost as easy as it is to go bankrupt hanging out with many people.
mircea_popescu: kinda why literature was a thing in 1700 france ; was not a thing in 1900s us.
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mircea_popescu: they get trained by tv and candy crush to be as superficial as possible because it reduces production costs significantly.
mircea_popescu: THEN they keep biting the steel girder in any real interaction, because guess what, if you're not watching tv the conventions of tv world aren't enforceable.
mircea_popescu: you know you can have wolf pups that don'\t attack the farm animals ?
mircea_popescu: dude this possibly takes the cake. i mean the previous contender was what, something in basic physics. but this is...
mircea_popescu: wtf transfuckinghumanism! there's all this basic humanism stuff to be still mastered!
mircea_popescu: a speaking of which asciilifeform i was meaning to ask, seeing how they keep popping in pairs : how many times as a % of cases is that when we pop a modulus we pop it for BOTH p and q ?
mircea_popescu: and further, how many are the same factors ? because it's starting to occur to me we might be able to find an openssh bug through birthdaying the factors it keeps popping up.
mircea_popescu: if it's the case that "here's this list of 200 primes which popped 2000 moduli", then we should make a histogram of moduli per prime.
mircea_popescu: anyway, surgeon general's warning : openssh is at this point known by the republic to be cryptographically weak.
mircea_popescu: myeah. good thing people are busy "thinking" about things they don't understand instead.
mircea_popescu: i can't. it's as incomprehensible to me as the girls. a boy that dun wanna fight, really ? exactly like a girl that dun wanna fuck, i look at these like a dog looks at a painted bone. "nice work i guess lol. but..."
mircea_popescu: but in any case, ANOTHER aspect of discipline reveals itself. "work on what mp tells you to work on, not on what you think is fun to work on".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even false, i dunno there's much worth reading in english. i mean one can be done with twain and shakespeare in a summer.
mircea_popescu: from experience they subjectively think they're "doing pretty good" ; in any case "better than those other deplorables". whereas discoursively he could in principle say anything, chiefly because is not convinced words carry any meaning. as long as he's not saying something verboten like "africans have no culture", it's all up for grabs. "for controversy" which is somehow related to "funding".
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 03:59 mircea_popescu: pro tip : nobody has any incentive to help fucktarded nobody on a stick keep his unearned and unwarranted claim to importance.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 03:59 mircea_popescu: so he bought btc in 2014. his job is to lose it to his betters, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: back in 2014 the idea was that they are (and in fact they were, mostly by accident). it's been generally washed out of them by now.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it is a plain example of "bitcoin corrupts" at work.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:44 mircea_popescu: windows will either compete with tmsr or go away. if it competes -- it becomes. if it goes away -- it becomes. there is no choice and there is no will.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, i'm against violence" "you'll get discounted out of existence in the marketplace" "uhhhh!"
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:26 asciilifeform: 19:41 <@fenn> the patent was the excuse everyone used for not sharing their homegrown plasmids
mircea_popescu: "Every male you ever run into will be looking for an excuse, to explain to himself, and to "everyone else" as he represents that in his head, why he isn't doing, more, better, etcetera. You happen to have an exceptional answer, and one that he is extremely eager to receive from you. For this reason you are to expect no fundamental problems, it's not like you might run into a male that doesn't want to find himself in the safe,
mircea_popescu: protective confines of your steel gift. They do want to, all of them do. Impediments, such as exist, all come from circumstantial happenstance, you have to be careful not to pinch their delicate skins putting it on -- and mind that for every inch of physical skin males have miles upon miles of mind-skins enveloping them like a far-reaching cocoon. Once on, you'll have to make sure it doesn't rub wrongly, and especially teach
mircea_popescu: the captured male how to behave so it doesn't rub wrongly. Example suffices, he will perhaps protest but certainly learn and definitely change to fit the limit on his penis. It's not like he's not very eager to alter his behaviour so he can maintain that sweet, sweet delicious cage for longer, for as long as possible, forever. Whatever he may say, it's all window-dressing for that simple, fundamental fact -- he's happier neu
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i don't think that really even happened. i mean... WHAT PROOF DO WE HAVE
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:00 phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist".
mircea_popescu: ("artist" = choiceless art producer, say like durer. or i suppose originally, zeus, "gotta get this bitch out of my fucking skull")
mircea_popescu: i take it we're all aware how athens (ie, wisdom) was born according to the greeks, yes ?
mircea_popescu: in particular phf what'd be the name for "opinions and actions based on "i don't see anything wroing with it"" ? still rationalist ?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704897 << see, the problem is not THAT it's ponyfic ; but that it's bad. there's plenty of demand for good fearmongering (don't stick your tongue in wall socket, son!), the problem is there's no demand for bad fearmongering. it's the quality, not the kind of item, that's the problem.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:10 kanzure: phf: that sounds like something else. the lesswrong folx are moron navelgazers. yes it makes sense to "use thinking" but not if the output is just a pile of ponyfic and fearmogering.
mircea_popescu: wait, someone bought micrometer wavelength light made ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 12:22 <@fenn> how many lines of code is OCC? <<< see, he is asking the right question. i knew my patience will be dug back out from the hole by the unfolding of events!
mircea_popescu: 12:23 < kanzure> there is a certain argument about not always throwing away legacy code, but i currently forget the exact argument << it was joel writing up netscape implosion.
mircea_popescu: kanzure you are experiencing the following problem : you do ocr on old text, which produces ambiguities that bite you in the ass. yes the string "patent" can be found in medieval and early modern period documents. the item thereby denoted however is not a patent.
mircea_popescu: this is one of the main ways in which wiki "education" fails. to understand things you must follow their pedigree not merely attempt to recognize instantaneous shape.
mircea_popescu: the original privateers were created through letters patent ; the meaning of the word there is very much in the vein of monarchical absolutism. it was later co-opted when industrial revolution folk wanted a way to claim transcendence for acts of commerce.
mircea_popescu: kanzure> i wonder if people just signed their work with leibniz's name as a way to get it preserved << your reference points are pythagoras and perhaps
mircea_popescu: 14:43 < kanzure> i was just going through "the list" in my head (i don't really have a list, i'm just making things up that sound important) << ehehehe. this is becoming very alike that seinfeld episode where they had an opposite world and there was an opposte alf named fenn and so on. THE RSMT!!!
phf: nah, catv was dead. this thing is alive
mircea_popescu: well, maybe it should be worrisome the best times were in 2014, but yes, seems alive enough.
mircea_popescu: on the basis of his authority (as i understand it) i can decode meaning out of words.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705282 << i think empiricist, but also perhaps a mystic would be another alternative, i.e. knowledge through divine revelation. i think perhaps also traditionalist, i.e. inherent knowledge
☝︎ mircea_popescu: ehehehe! " how to make an inexpensive portable CNC milling machine - my Buckminster Fuller Institute contest "hexapod" entry"
shinohai: danielpbarron: it appears this cuntoo mirroe that mod6 spoke of is becoming more and more important.
mircea_popescu: so basically, either a slut (cock comes through the glory hole, i suck it, what do you want from me) or else a fanatic (allah told me!). otherwise, thinking man has no alternative but to be rationalist ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you were cured. but he's, again, asking the right question.
mircea_popescu knows of no other qualification for the unknown besides asking the right questions.
kanzure: asciilifeform: you don't need mass
danielpbarron: shinohai, thanks to this latest annoyance i'm a little closer to understanding how such a mirror might work
mircea_popescu: kanzure mind asking him to come over ? i'll rate him anyway on teh basis of what i've seen
kanzure: stewart platforms hexpods etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mommentum-inertial could work as substitute for mass-inertial as a ready notion. who knows what other cleverness lies silent.
mircea_popescu: give it more power, it'll cut through other things! :D
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think a thinking man is any kind of ist. i think it's an affect, one could be a rationalist and then he's going to talk about occam and denounce causes, or one can be some kind of mystic, and then he's going to have a particular stance also. i don't think any of this has to do with with any sort of understanding.
mircea_popescu: so the -ists as basically, the filename, whereas the file contents is a pile of heuristics/hacks, work as well as you might expect ?
kanzure: lice.btc.calendar.opentimestamps.org
kanzure: january 2009 not early enough for you huh?
mircea_popescu: plenty early. no, my expectations was you're stuck with dust, and i was going to offer you one so you have one.
mircea_popescu: nice work danielpbarron ; shows the value of keeping proper tapes huh.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: yeah if they break something else i'll just dig it out of one of my working machines and apply the same treatment
shinohai: Maybe he is trying to avoid Barry Shillbert's secret Bitcoin police
kanzure: 1FNFe9fC21sVp3syeGSRprnBCGU9QuY9Eh
mircea_popescu: i just get a "x might want to be upped" notification, that's it.
kanzure: sure is a strange way to do coinjoin
kanzure: i am bookmarks and so can you
deedbot: L1: -10, L2: 8 by 16 connections.
kanzure: how then would i maintain my reputation of overkill otherwise?
kanzure: "let's read all of wikipedia"
mircea_popescu: as i told the girl saturday, "i'll tell you when you ask!"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, is thwe current trilema header my dorkiest pic ever or what.
shinohai: mircea_popescu looks like he would operate BTC speakeasy in that pic
mircea_popescu: it's actually my old place in costa rica, 15 years ago or so.
mircea_popescu: (apartments, one above, one below. the one below had an electrically leaky stove, so i bought metalware and punished girlies had to make coffee on it. ZAP ZAP ZAP.)
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 20:04 mircea_popescu: !!pay 1FNFe9fC21sVp3syeGSRprnBCGU9QuY9Eh 1
mircea_popescu: trinque ah, good i said something then. any strong reason for this ?
trinque: not automating transactions going out.
mircea_popescu: but, whether it got put there by address owner or not, still same queue same process, so whatdiff does it make.
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> you could have a dialysis membrane in a microfluidic chip i guess << speaking of vaguely this : the great success of the new microflora research chips was so great it even made it to qntra! seems an eminently crowd-source-able item, in a useful way at that.
mircea_popescu: wtf is your excuse not running around planting chips in your back yards to find the next teixobactin ?
mircea_popescu: anyone with a diy interest in microbiology should be doing precisely that at least fucking once, these days.
shinohai: I hear they lock you in a room and force you to read coindesk articles all day.
mircea_popescu: yawell. usia. recall that article aboput how nobody can keep up with the printing to satisfy the wowow fantasy ?
mircea_popescu: im sure if you pin down anyone enough to ask it's you know "a protective patent" to "protect it" from "the bad guys"
mircea_popescu: like bitcoin.com registration, if anyone recalls those lulz.
mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today"
☟︎ phf is mildly curious is mp is doing his "once i found a thing, i read the whole archive" thing on 5gb or whatever it is of their log..
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 20:21 mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today"
mircea_popescu: phf but in any case, i ~can~ read a million lines. take me a season, but then again what are seasons for,.
mircea_popescu: past season, i also read a million lines. the machine is going, what you feed it is its problem, but it will be going nevertheless.
kanzure: i was going to pay someone to read logs and write summaries but they chickened out
mircea_popescu: 1704882 << line count, conveniently provided by phf. closing in on 2 mn.
shinohai: I tried the whole "find x in teh logz" thing for someone once, though it was not a matter of being lazy, it was more of my time is worth more than pennies to do so.
mircea_popescu: shinohai only way to run this is as a training exercise, really.
mircea_popescu: shakespeare is similarily not paying the folk writing shakespeare write-ups. they do it to learn.
kanzure: alright well why was someone paying you pennies? do you suck at negotiation or something?
shinohai: Why, when 100 monkeys on typewriters can do same.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1704882 * 0.01 / 4379.74969838 = 3.8926471086478043
phf: since we added ancient logs into the negative numbers, the actual count is not represented by current max id
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2031466 + 1704882 = 3736348
mircea_popescu: holy shit, 0 ad is already midway into the past ? seems like only yesterday...
phf: err, i misread, that was the total number
mircea_popescu: shinohai do they all wear that kinda suit ? could be worth a lotta lulz.
shinohai: Must be the new generation of pantsuit! >.>
mircea_popescu: why would an athlete try to wear skinny suits anyways. not for them.
mircea_popescu: looks like the dressed cat in that tom and jerry cartoon.
shinohai: I think the pattern looks like the chalk lines on the cloth when you go to get *fitted* for a suit
kanzure: keep reading. same day i wrote my dad's eulogy.
mircea_popescu: kanzure this jan 2009 log is entertaining. i take it the ongoing decade has not resulted in any "some random company needs us to design them some manufacturing assembly equipment. We say we'll do it cheaper (or whatever), we license it all open source and so on, make our money from it, and apply it to what we need to get done in our tech-base of free stuff anyway."
mircea_popescu: not that the stateemnt diverges from common wisdom at the time.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> shinohai do they all wear that kinda suit ? could be worth a lotta lulz. << It's a black thing
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Mayweather's communion with civilization proceeds exactly to the bounds of mastering his vocation and nearly half an inch further.
mircea_popescu: which of the numerous links we've been blessed with was this ?
mircea_popescu: but let me illustrate : have you noticed how when under space pressure and trying to introduce a tech item, whatever it may be, the ONE BIT that's ABSOLUTELY NEVER omitted is the name ?
mircea_popescu: screenwriter for one of the hbo shows may have all of 11 syllables to explain whatever-it-is, and by god five or six will go to "REALITYWINNER" equivalent.
mircea_popescu: living in "a brand-driven society" means something. this is what it means.
mircea_popescu: not so. just like "and she is pretty and smart" is never omitterd in mary-sue fiction.
mircea_popescu: i can speak of Whatshername Horseface all the time. people know who i mean.
mircea_popescu: so then : rufus cryptoweather or whatever his name was.
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trinque: bleh which one would it be, even?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Error: "forkolade" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of < kanzure> there is a certain amount of equipment you need before you can do useful biology things << hey kanzure do you have children ?
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kanzure: mircea_popescu: child labor is only as good as the children
mircea_popescu: because you don't want any or because there's a certain amount of equipment you need before you can have children ?
kanzure: i'm confused because it sounds like a goal
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mircea_popescu: heck, i met this chick in cairo, she lived inside a perfectly empty hole in the ground most us solitary inmates wouldn't deem fit as a prison. she had six children.
kanzure: so do lots of other people
mircea_popescu: this notion that "if i pile up enough blue items to make a bower i'll thereby be a bower-biologist and science will frlow from me" is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: kids do it all the time, "i have a professional tennis racquet, just like agassi". it's ok for a 15yo.
kanzure: alf doesn't know about /join
mircea_popescu: how not ? it's a thing, silly name but i spoke it yest. lessee
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 03:10 mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, * Topic for ##hplusroadmap is: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal Death Administration (5 times)
kanzure: turns out the fda regulates a lot of things
kanzure: wheelchairs, can't build a wheelchair according to 'em
mircea_popescu: kanzure so it's just implicit ? why 5 rather than 48 ?
kanzure: ultrasound imaging requires a prescription in the usistan (sorry i forget your pet name)
kanzure: i think there was an actual counter at some point
mircea_popescu: actually, paternity testing is illegal in france, EVEN IF DONE IN SPAIN
kanzure: ok i think you would be more interested in the time that the fbi weapons of mass destruction division assigned special agents to us
kanzure: however, the agents did not show up like that, and they were very disappointing
mircea_popescu: kanzure i can't discern much from this wall of links. can i have a three sentence summary ?
kanzure: fbi was concerned that we were bioterrorists
kanzure: so for at least a ~year many of us had regular "coffee meetings" with local area special agent
kanzure: eventually they realized we were harmless and only going to kill the nonbelievers
mircea_popescu: "Weclome to the conference. I am the local WMD coordinator for the SF division. I've been working with the biocurious folks in SV. Welcome to SF, you guys have a great time, the weather is fantastic." in other lulz.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why the pantsuit actually thouight clinton is a star or at least star material.
mircea_popescu: what was it, hate facts, negative science, and other things that ruined the clinton dream.
gribble: Error: "#s" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: "If you are using city water, filter it. If you are using a closed circuit flow system, check the water and change it every six weeks or so, or drop a few drops of Algaecide in the recirculator. Better yet, use diluted Dow Frost. << howling shits, who uses anything but prop glycol for this ?! srsly, water ? you spring 20 bux for your car, but want the laser free ?
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> fbi was concerned that we were bioterrorists << Eh, back in summer 2014-ish FBI and Department of Treasury knocked on my door. I did the sane thing and blogged it.
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> just dumping this rare element overboard for no reason other than we don't feel like keeping it anymore << speaking of He, it's pretty much the only material in which usg has a monopoly. china and to some degree russia own the rare earths/heavy metals, but teh u7s got teh heliumz.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well for some defintions thereof. They seem rather insistent on selling it off.
mircea_popescu: i said "Crack whore has a couch" not "crack whore will never light her couch on fire"
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 18:04 mircea_popescu: aka errowind "noman TEK".
BingoBoingo: lol, most US meth anymore seems to be made in used soda bottles
mircea_popescu: you know, it started with this 80s "judges are not to wear their capes in kid court lest the implicit, intended majesty of office scares children". then the "slightly aloof" but totalluy "genius" uni professor occured in the 90s. he spoke like a dork deliberately.
BingoBoingo: How many admitted addicts does Berkeley professor know.
mircea_popescu: not a fucking clue, just bumbling idiots barely a shade above the herd they supposedly shepherd through "Science!!"
mircea_popescu: all the better that nobody wants their vacuums repaired.
mircea_popescu: this is the lulzy dark side of MAGA : supposed it worked, and suppose there were all these jobs... and supposed teh beoble applied, and they were turned down for sucking.
mircea_popescu: "as it is now, you can't have any jobs because there aren't any. but if there were some, you still couldn't have any, this time for being the suck."
mircea_popescu: "oh mp, this neatly explains how there came to be no jobs in the first place!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's still oil in the soil nobod ycould be arsed to process. to this day!
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> jrayhawk_: would you be willing to host a microscope? responsibilities would include keeping it plugged in and internet connected. also there would be an irc bot that controls where it looks. you'd also be pestered to load samples periodically. << did this 2014 idea ever get implemented ?
☟︎ kanzure: nmz787 took an electron microscope. the gigascope never materialized though.
kanzure: sometimes brainwashing. but yes.
mircea_popescu: the only time they don't dare is when the girl is right there and she's taller than them and as the song went, "modelul nou de fata s-ar putea sa-l bata"
kanzure: death rays ain't what they used to be
phf: if i only i had more men to continue doing nothing with me
phf: why i'd be the next genghis khan in my mind by now
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> aaactually deathray is one of the few items that stayed quite the same since 1890. << Nah, now they jacket the mass of lead atoms with a different metal
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo bullet may have a waveform associated with it, but it's trivial!
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> also it's because i feel ashamed for not having thousands of hours of microscopy video already << i hope shame intensifies. but in any case : why the fuck wouldf you make it video.
kanzure: you prefer individual jpegs?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course it's not a 'proper' ray! It's a DEATH ray! No reason to be polite
mircea_popescu: kanzure the overhead of movement is 90% + of the cost you incur ; and 1% or less of the point of interest. microscopy is supposed to be gifs. and correctly colorized so as to allow me to get back the electron microscope original.
kanzure: microscopy is supposed to be gifs? next you're going to tell me webm
mircea_popescu: you don't want the "color levels" nonsense of bitmap/jpeg family. you want the gif palette, and a clearly explicit mapping to the electron microscope output.
mircea_popescu: this way you actually have a de facto lossless, and rather useful, microscopy remote format.
mircea_popescu: (likbez : the result of microscopy is a set, of levels, that are not numbers in the proper sense. consequently you wish to see a list of them, but can not do implicit color conversions such as blue+yellow = green, because color #45 the microscope saw has nothing to do with #65 or #72)
mircea_popescu: "Why is the FBI focused on the amateur side, and such a higher risk or higher threat from people coming out of the more traditional sciences?" << because people coming from "traditional" are already neutered.
mircea_popescu: you know they're not going to do anything worth the mention as part of the definition.
mircea_popescu: ah. so then proper statement is, "alf has no use for them"
BingoBoingo got a speeding ticket earlier this month. In ~two weeks there is a hearing on motions and discovery
mircea_popescu: anmyway, on the strength of what you presented you got a few k's worth of go away money there.
BingoBoingo: Anyways arbitration process is rarely an automatic "fuck you", have to pursue it
phf: mircea_popescu: i actually think we had a thread. activity is either happening, and thus further cultivated (i.e. doers encouraged, talkers are shed, whatever the method), or else there's nothing happening at all. in a sense that you can't draw your pistol faster than your draw speed, so there's nothing really to worry about. i ~suspect~ that there's just no effective culling happening
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's no automatic fuck yous. << Penis in butt?
mircea_popescu: phf i perceive he's trying. doesn't know how is separate issue.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i saw something similar re "philosophy". so let's ask again, you know, "Why is the FBI not focused on the soup"
mircea_popescu: anyway. people are way the fuck worse at science than they are at politics ; and women ESPECIALLY so. but the general population sucking is not a reason to ignore the field.
kanzure: it's reason to shut them up
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> well who's at the top then << i am, aren't i.
phf: asciilifeform: speaking of doing things with limited resources. fyi i'm in zeptobar slav land with an ivory chip.
shinohai: Actual item from newsfeed: "How a leader can move forward without consensus"
shinohai: That would have been how *I* wrote it
phf: asciilifeform: he fucked up his scheduling, but afaik he's still comming to dc in november.
phf: my cousin asked me if i'm "into the whole bitcoin" thing, and mentioned that they now sell houses and stuff using btc. i said i heard about it..
kanzure: why are you learning about that from me
phf: the wisdom of this joke is lost on me. though past few days the joke that's on my mind the most is, the one about shtirlitz: borman i shtirlitz pyut vmeste. borman govorit, "shtirlitz, a ved vi yevrey!" "Net!" govorit shtirlitz "Ya russkii!!!"
mircea_popescu just counted, trilema (articles only) stands at 10`631`726 words. this excludes my comments there and of course whatever my share of the log's 2mn lines (ie about what, a further 20-30mn words ?) is.
☟︎ phf: (and in completely unrelated to anything lulz, i just discovered that the very first email in my email archive, june 2006 is an allegro lisp trial license)
mircea_popescu: my oldest emails are from the 90s, and were left behind with the 386 pine-running system that housed them. probably of interest, but not really to me.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'd be absolutely exstatic if the wetware computing progressed along while we're busy with the hardware ones.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was speaking metaphorically! you know, whatever bio-stuff.
mircea_popescu: certainly. but no, sometyhing, anything. "in the past nine years while the republic choked the remnants of
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-10#1696459 we at the soviet biolabs have a) deployed ten thousand chips in the back yard resulting in three different bactins ; and have this microscope that spit out 10k gifs.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-10 10:05 mircea_popescu: (nemtsov, recently assassinated, was, of course, the guy putin beat for to
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687959, yeltsin's chosen successor. ah what a great party it'd have been, for teh pantsuits. clinton forever, herdemocracy herp derp... then gore lost to bush, nemtsov lost to putin, nyc lost to gravity, sads sads sads.)
mircea_popescu: not a matter of reproduce. a matter of produce in the first place!
mircea_popescu: phuctor spits out a few broken keys each day. this accretes, because it's relatively cheaper to do it over time. good luck to anyone trying to replicate it TODAY.
mircea_popescu: let them have a microscope that produces something each day.
mircea_popescu: this is the important point here, be a fucking capitalist already, let time work for you. drop this nonsensical "oh, we can waste resources, inflation wiull make up for it anyway" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: and randomly : if you like to barbecue (good for you) do me a favour and buy yourself a bottle of 98% alcohol to use instead of whatever petrochem crap you use for a starter, either that horrid plastic brick thing or else cancerliquid. tyvm.
phf: judging by his output of workshops and performances (as opposed to cool hacks and circuits) i'm pretty sure he's just sitting on nodick grants at this point. what happened to all his kind in merkle europe
mircea_popescu: phf it's the bologna system that fucked it. angela tard about as relevant as the captain of the titanic.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-17 02:50 asciilifeform: phf: i am long-time fan of howse.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: I use olive oil to lite briquettes ..... always seems to work 1000% better
mircea_popescu: dood did an early bfl cutup too. kanzure do you know him ?
phf: i was half expecting to find an ivory there ^
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and randomly : if you like to barbecue (good for you) do me a favour and buy yourself a bottle of 98% alcohol to use instead of whatever petrochem crap you use for a starter, either that horrid plastic brick thing or else cancerliquid. tyvm. << Aluminum "chimney" and newspaper ftw
BingoBoingo: Vintage newspaper, who's buying the new ones
BingoBoingo: Ah fine, I'll start keeping the sawdust/bar oil slurry
☟︎ BingoBoingo: What tree dropping limbs around me has glue?
BingoBoingo: Chainsaw makes coarse enough sawdust to not fear explosion at sane collected amounts
BingoBoingo: Eh, just assign it to a girl. "learn to chainsaw, report on the experience"
kanzure: mircea_popescu: siliconpr0n.org guy? met him in 2007.
mircea_popescu: what's he doing these days ? wants to be part of macivory cutup efforts ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, that's from using arm powered saw. Chainsaw implies 2-stroke powerplant
BingoBoingo: And for most of chainsaw cut workpiece bears weight of saw
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 22:53 mircea_popescu: nah. ends up with butch arms, who wants that.
kanzure: 1c8d50a5c99d0c65428e2e1da77430477be436d671ce8203a75ff4ae600ba85e thanks
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> what's the fastest microcritter and how fast would the travel have to be to keep up (including opencv delays)? << some spore shooting organisms do crazy shit like 20m/s speeds reached within a fraction of a second / the first milimeter of travel.
kanzure: there was a recent paper on ballistic weapons in microbes
mircea_popescu: these are mostly faeces dwellers, have to shoot spores out of the way so animals still eat them.
mircea_popescu: in other words : there's no safe assumptions in biology provided by biology, but only by physics. because selection will actually cover anything.
kanzure: ttps://phys.org/news/2017-04-capture-dinoflagellate-video-harpoons-prey.html
kanzure: why can't i type urls right anymore
kanzure: the keyboard sucks anyway, there's like >10 ms delay between keypress recognition
BingoBoingo: carved by C02 lazer from obsidian or something like that
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> why is there no "hardware liberation front" that hacks peoples computers for driver documentation? << 2014.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, it's news for a change. And by crossing 24 hour mark DIY Bio is a thing nao.
trinque: !!unrate kanzure guess I'll see where this goes
BingoBoingo: trinque: How's the weather? I heard the Army Corps of engineers dumped reservoir water into your flood waters
trinque: !!v 45568436D388EB26648C2B3E0F80C665C4B11D01D34A49DF27073CF23C73A359
trinque: BingoBoingo: yeah, couple of levees were going to pop; couple did afaik
trinque: I've got some decent pictures of the flooding
BingoBoingo: No reparations ops like New Orleans had in Katrina?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Even with Texas, Houston is urban. Has urban populations.
kanzure: trinque: mighty big of you, thanks.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: AHA, anyways Dallas area has a number of resettled Katrina refugees.
mircea_popescu: this would be a good story you know, "the rain girl". take a super hot chick and cast her in a film about how wherever she goes it floods. badly.
BingoBoingo wondering if nostalgia looting drive would overcome, "WTF we in Texas" reality
BingoBoingo: IRL the rain girl's name is monique. She don't really care about her BF and half her baby dadies are in Louisiana's Angola penitentiary.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 23:37 BingoBoingo: No reparations ops like New Orleans had in Katrina?
BingoBoingo: Trinque isn't washing away for the same reason I didn't wash away this spring or winter of 2015. White priviledge.
trinque: houston meanwhile's fine; for all the "ohmygurd unprecedented" in the pantsuit media, the bayou system worked *flawlessly*
BingoBoingo: trinque: "Reparations Ops" are that thing the ubran folk do in Baltimore and the cops did
BingoBoingo: trinque: What is this bayou system, explain in a Qntra submission on how fake the fake news coverage of this rain drop pidder padder is.
trinque: lemme get together some food then sure will.
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