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BingoBoingo: My inclination was not to take the earlier committment for granted and underline the need to start working out a plan to achieve a positive ROI because I can't man alone it. Having sidechannel discussions outside this forum has been demonstrated -EV in the past. I am also wary of having strategic discussions outside of the channel where most of the republic's strategic and commercial competence sits. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I was feeling overdue for an appointment with the sharp rotating blades of the immutable machine.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886685 << i'ma match mod6 . and then see to it that mircea_popescu's advices are actually followed, even if ( and it appears that yes if ) i gotta run the spamatrons with own hands & feet ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 23:46 mircea_popescu: so ok, if mod6 is committed to the prev 5btc and asciilifeform meets it, what exactly is pizarro's financial problem ?
mircea_popescu: this is a perfectly valid metric, "derps reached per bitcent". much like bw or w/e else, it's a measurement, yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also on subj, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5gd63/?raw=true
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714 - Part I. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tqDlJ/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: danke schon!
mircea_popescu: doesn't that look suspicious. ☟︎
BingoBoingo putting on shoes. asciilifeform is there anything in particular you want me to check for beyond what I reported yesterday?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the seals.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite.
trinque: BingoBoingo: looks like uy1 rebooted again?
mircea_popescu: we were just talking about that.
trinque: hrm
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to switch on with chassic open and determine if fans moving; and clean the latter. ty
asciilifeform: *chassis
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bios setup of that box also contains internal log, which will report if thermal trip. plox to examine.
asciilifeform: also BingoBoingo plox to connect kvm hoses to selfsame box, and kvm power to mains, before you leave the cage.
mircea_popescu: wb
lobbes: ty. (my irssi is on teh uy1)
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda curious what comes out of this.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886692 << I've been digesting your initial blawg post, and then that last thread. If I were to summarize what I'd read I'd say the short-term path is clear: start automating, and then reporting on metrics gathered. In the best case it seems the only way to generate enough sales. In the worst case you will have at least produced some meaningful statistics ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 00:17 BingoBoingo: My inclination was not to take the earlier committment for granted and underline the need to start working out a plan to achieve a positive ROI because I can't man alone it. Having sidechannel discussions outside this forum has been demonstrated -EV in the past. I am also wary of having strategic discussions outside of the channel where most of the republic's strategic and commercial competence sits.
lobbes: it would seem like BingoBoingo's and my own (albiet limited) experiences illustrate the futile and time-wasting nature of sifting through the meat pile by hand >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/sales-report-june-2018/
mircea_popescu: re http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/#selection-51.13-51.130 specifically (ie, "no hardware to sell"), is this actually the case ? i thought there was some overcapacity
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re ". Even when I manage a piece of evangelical Republican writing well received by the targeted community as measured by 'likes'... the reception warm reception is fuctionally empty." << the problem with this is the single-flower-spring issue. if you wish t go this route your measurements are in the dozens of accounts, spitting forth 100s of daily posts supporting each other across the whole "niche".
mircea_popescu: you don't do that, you don't get anywhere.
mircea_popescu: understand there's no such thing as "a liver". either it's the whole enchilada, liver, stomach, bone, muscles, skin, all the organs -- or else nothing at all.
mircea_popescu: in other news, libgnarl.a is a great name indeed!
mircea_popescu: re http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ : leaving aside how annoying it is i can't select, and how it's the case trying to comment timesout : it seems the case pizarro ~made~ about 2 bitcoin during november, on the strength of its fiat-denominated holdings, taking it from being worth ~14 to being worth ~17 bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: are these factual ? because ~both~ of these would be ~significant~ accomplishments, neh ? shareholders put in 11, if memory serves, so they realised a 60% roi over the interval ?
mircea_popescu: it strikes me as the height of strange that the balance sheet seems to paint a rosy picture whereas management communication is bleak and dour. these shouldn't contradict so, which is it ?
mircea_popescu: in other news, ffa chapters are such a pleasure. it seems to me by now ffa has become such a largest-rock in the loperos garden... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: kudos.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Fans clean, all spin. Palpable air movement in and out of the chassis. Seals in tact on arrival, new seals deployed. KVM connected. I did not manage to find the internal log in the BIOS.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886726 << very happy to hear that mircea_popescu enjoyed reading. i've put a good bit of sweat in recent times into keeping these pieces short & edible. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 02:37 mircea_popescu: in other news, ffa chapters are such a pleasure. it seems to me by now ffa has become such a largest-rock in the loperos garden...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, i'ma instrument the thing for realtime logging soon as i wake up ( about to turn in, and would rather not break things when half awake )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it strikes me as the height of strange that the balance sheet seems to paint a rosy picture whereas management communication is bleak and dour. these shouldn't contradict so, which is it ? << The cash flow situation concerns me. Our fiat denominated holdings have appreciated. As you assessed earlier our primary asset is a healthy customer relationship with the (very rare) independent datacenter. Maintaining that
BingoBoingo: relationship is also the largest of our recurring fiat denominated expenses. Sitting here my thinking latched onto present cash flow situation as the datacenter's goodwill isn't very liquid.
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, elsewhere, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2963&cpage=1#comment-19774
mircea_popescu: i happen to agree with the fellow, "partial order" (as in, the term of art) is specifically why not actually breaking anything.
mircea_popescu: and ahh, what a joy to be catched up!
mircea_popescu: in other arcana : i have here a copy of trb that has died a mysterious death on dec 31st. the process itself hasn't returned, ps aux lists it as expected, however the last time it touched any files was two weeks ago, nor does a call to getinfo ever return. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: is this a first ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what if anyffing is in the log tail ?
mircea_popescu: it's own debug log ? a buncha disconnecting node x
asciilifeform: ending dec31? or continues
mircea_popescu: ending then
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik yer the pioneer , this is 1st such case on record.
mircea_popescu: i weep not hjaving ran this particular instance in debug, so i can't see where it's looping, or wtf
asciilifeform: i assume mircea_popescu already checked that disk wasnt full
mircea_popescu: but what the FUCK can i do, run everything in debug, maybe 3-5-12 layers deep ?
asciilifeform: 1 suffices , lol
mircea_popescu: this anger has led me to re-read ye olde http://trilema.com/2018/the-symbolics-discussion/ ; only to discover i'm ~still~ not satisfied
mircea_popescu: "why didn't it sell with the rest ?" still haunts me.
asciilifeform wishes that these happend on ~his~ boxen !
mircea_popescu: i'd like a computer where i didn't have this sort of problem. ☟︎
asciilifeform: heh i have a whole www about these..
mircea_popescu: "something happened -- nobody knows when or why or how. would you like fries with that ?"
asciilifeform: unixtardation, crashism, bigger calamity than pb in petrol, or in pipes, or 100 chernobyls
mircea_popescu: here i sit and stare into the terminal, not knowing what to do. this happens absolutely never in my life, except when dealing with fucking computers.
asciilifeform: in the past , asciilifeform encountered cases like this and resorted to dumping physical mem images. but doesnt expect mircea_popescu to do this
asciilifeform: ( aand they're a 1st class bitch to get anyffing useful out of )
mircea_popescu: i don't expect anything useful could be had in a timeframe shorter than re-doing all of bitcoin. it's a large box etc.
asciilifeform: unixtardation is an item i'd like to live to see an end put to, verily.
asciilifeform: sorta whole orig thrust behind asciilifeform's archaeologies, experiments in old days, fpga room, etc
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: and there it goes : happily eats ctrl-c, OF COURSE, cuz why the fuck have any sort of notion of human priviledge or anything, terminal has its own mind, right. but if sigkilled dies peacibly and then restarts as if nothing had happened.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any sign of oom, or anyffin else peculiar, in last hours of log ?
mircea_popescu: absolutely nothing.
asciilifeform: nuts.
mircea_popescu: i ~suspect~ but obviously have no way of proving that its netpipe flickered and it never recovered.
asciilifeform: this dun normally nail the process tho
mircea_popescu: no, i know
mircea_popescu: besides i have testing for this specific, "whyat happens with net interface unreliability", never found this particular issue
mircea_popescu: but then agai nthe space of shit is SO VAST it's not feasible to exhaustively test.
asciilifeform: very handy test tho
asciilifeform: i've planted noad under gsm modem, for instance, surprisingly - worked
asciilifeform bbl, food
mircea_popescu: it's important, really cornerstone of all "made by vbasic/java/etc minds and has network access" items.
mircea_popescu: no offense to Mocky_ , whose brain works fine.
mircea_popescu: back to the truly irksome :
mircea_popescu: phf pre-symbolics the "theorems" were "how do i computer" in general. those guys weren't playing around with custom fpga in their garage that they failed to sell. they were basically figuring out how to build a von neumann machine that can do things, which they did
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu this part is fine. now, why did they fail to a) band together and b) control, deliberately, the product. they did a very strict anti-a and anti-b. why! the only reason mit even exists in this picture is because the dozen was "omfg, we DID figure it out, now quick, find someone TO PROTECT US FROM OUR HAVING FIGURED IT OUT!!1" holy shit who thinks like this and why do they.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wl72x/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a mega-point
mircea_popescu: yw.
asciilifeform: aand i'ma apply the supplied algo.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886522 <<< Thanx, also will report to diana_coman if configuring out bullet has any negative consequences, so far everything renders correctly as far as I can tell. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 20:50 mircea_popescu: nice going shinohai
shinohai: Perforemed bare hand exploration, also works.
diana_coman: shinohai, an Ada lib for client-side logging would be quite useful
diana_coman: bot is in dire need of proper logging and once the new protocol is in place I can see the client itself needing to log stuff
diana_coman: at the very least, dubious messages if/when it gets them
shinohai: I look forward to client updates, also found http://ossasepia.com/2019/01/12/compiling-ada-library-for-use-with-non-ada-main/ quite interesting btw.
diana_coman: thanks! one of those days I'll get around to write-up the jam stuff for linking the lib with the client too ; at any rate, the linking seems sorted for now - it's Ada code for all the pieces that is missing
shinohai: While I'm here, did you guise remove http://minigame.bz/jurov/Eulora-client.git permanently? (Perhaps jurov has copy still hidden away somewhere, I was interested for archival purposes)
mircea_popescu: should be in http://minigame.biz/jurov/Eulora-client.git i don't expect anyone deleted it
shinohai: I tried cloning, simply times out ( was going to add additional post on subject )
diana_coman: wasn't that with old versions/unmaintained ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman wth happened there, Trying 161.0.121.247... Connection timed out etc. site got nuked ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, neah, it's that part that I did not move over to the html server because it wasn't up to date really
mircea_popescu: but i mean no part of the site responds ?
mircea_popescu: oh, is this uy1 being down ?
diana_coman: ? it responds here?
diana_coman: or uhm, no
diana_coman: yes, it is uy1 being down
mircea_popescu: heh.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: .247 is uy1
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform BingoBoingo yo, you can't have multi hour outages, wtf.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: How is the debugging and instrumenting going? Do you need my hands in the rack?
shinohai: ( I wrote initial post on Friday, minigame.bz wasn't responding then when I did post research - only thing I got was the logs subdomain)
mircea_popescu: shinohai multiple layers. it went from .bz to .biz sometime 2017 maybe ?
mircea_popescu: jurov used to maintain a git repo (2016 maybe ?) but we're not that git-friendly anyway and he kinda stopped working on it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yes hands asap plox
mircea_popescu: when diana_coman moved over the site to uy, she pruned all the shit that was badly out of date and little hope of being brought back up
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : not a planned outage, at this point i strongly suspect iron issue
diana_coman: basically we don't have a windows maintainer anymore; and yes, last parts in there were ~2016
mircea_popescu: that's nice and all, but meanwhile here i sit talking to people about absent sites yes.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2018/12/trump-makes-end-of-year-push-mattis-out-syria-and-afghanistan-withdrawals-and-shutdown-showdown-over-border-wall/ << in utter lulz : could the democrat party be any less fucking relevant these days ? it's gop-senate vs gop-house and trump.
mircea_popescu: bernie sanders is actually more of a player than the entire collected dnc
mircea_popescu: ie, pretty much ended as a going concern.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf, thing appears to be hung on the grub menu screen
asciilifeform: update : it aint hung, responds, but i have nfi how this thing ever auto-booted in the past -- the boot menu dun seem to have a timeout , wtf
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In the rack
BingoBoingo: Please deliver instructions in #pizarro as I don't know how much log troubleshooting is going to generate
asciilifeform: ok 1s
mircea_popescu: well, if you feed it kbd it will turn auto-timer off.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hrm, i switch this off in my installs, but this box is a BingoBoingo creation.
asciilifeform: anyways booted nao, about to instrument.
asciilifeform: update : box is up; loox like BingoBoingo hastily reassembled thing last night without the nic plug properly seated.
mircea_popescu: you can do that ?!
BingoBoingo: I forgot to plug the ethernet back in
asciilifeform: haste makes waste, lol
mircea_popescu: ic
asciilifeform: i'ma cure the asinine grub keyboard thing.
asciilifeform: ( who the FUCK thought this was acceptable behaviour )
mircea_popescu: desktop use.
asciilifeform: yea cuz it's a-ok to have desktop spin 4evah on boot... lol ☟︎
mircea_popescu: making linux accessible to senior citizen drivers, whadda ya want
mod6: mircea_popescu: I've only seen behaviour from trb like that when I've had some bad hardware. In particular a suspected bad SSD. I issue the 'getinfo' command and nothing, just hangs.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886835 << They just don't want anyone booting into the wrong version of Windows ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 15:34 asciilifeform: yea cuz it's a-ok to have desktop spin 4evah on boot... lol
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah but the disk is fine.
mod6: My one node I've got now, is still on that bad hardware as I haven't found a new home for it yet. Sometimes, if I just let it "figure itself out", it'll return eventually and be fine. I agree though, would be nice to get to a root cause of this by some form of testing. Hard to mimic the state, regardless.
mod6: And by 'eventually', I mean hours usually.
mircea_popescu: this had ~two weeks.
mod6: Oh, ok. Hmm. Well, thanks for reporting. We need to get to the bottom of that pile of weird.
mircea_popescu: and bad ssd is unlikely to hit ~specifically one~ of multiple instances, as well as it's unlikely to occur while drive has free spare sectors to map to, and besides it'd be a first. drive's fine what.
mod6: Alright, noted.
asciilifeform: update : uy1 is up, i have realtime log going from it.
asciilifeform: inspection of logs on disk turned up nuffin enlightening.
diana_coman: funnily enough it seems I even DID port over jurov's page too anyway, lolz; it was just the uy1 down thing
asciilifeform: update: aaand ben_vulpes (who is orig builder of UY1) didn't see it fit to build the k10temp kernel mod, so i can get cpu/chipset temps and ps voltages.
diana_coman: just not the git
asciilifeform: i'ma have to rebuild kernel on UY1 today.
asciilifeform: will announce the reboot hour in advance.
asciilifeform: anyone have objection ?
diana_coman: fine with me
asciilifeform: after we get to the bottom of UY1 issue, i'ma make sure that all iron owned by pizarro has asciilifeform-baked kernel in place. ☟︎
mod6: asciilifeform: good with me.
asciilifeform: ty mod6 diana_coman
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al : also i am getting multi-second ping latencies to pizarro (all boxen)
asciilifeform: the debug session has distinct 'mars lander' feel to it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am seeing much faster pings
mod6: pings to 161.0.121.247 from me are: round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 194.551/195.055/198.219/0.723 ms - 0 packets lost.
asciilifeform: mod6: 0.7s is pretty martian
asciilifeform: and quite atypical.
asciilifeform: well, moar moon than mars. but still.
asciilifeform: i am seeing multi-second ssh keystroke delays.
mod6: I don't doubt. That seems off for sure.
BingoBoingo: I'm seeing sub 20ms pings to every box I've tried so far except UY1. UY1 is returned sub 40 ms pings
BingoBoingo: From habitation module, not the rack
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: soon as this is done, i'ma graph the machine temps/voltages.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to keep kvm hoses in until further notice.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty, will keep the hoses in until you give the withdrawal order.
asciilifeform: ty
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG UY1 users : plz prepare for scheduled reset in 30m.
asciilifeform: incidentally i was not aware that UY1 uses grub (grub2 no less). grub is fatwa'd on pizarro-owned iron. i'ma correct this omission in a scheduled maintenance after we cure the moar pressing issue in re uy1.
asciilifeform: attn: rebooting UY1.
mod6: ty for the notice
asciilifeform: update : sensor reader proggy nao installed on UY1, will set to snapshot erry 30s.
BingoBoingo can see UY1 hosted sites
asciilifeform: so far all sensor readings within range
asciilifeform: and no peculiarities in log
asciilifeform: all fans moving.
asciilifeform: cpu temp 45.5C (out of 85 permitted), chipset 30.8 (75 permissible) (i'ma omit further reports on subj for nao, unless thing actually is found to melt)
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/14/pizarro-isp-update-january-14-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update January 14, 2019
asciilifeform: achtung pizarro subscribers : if 1 of you is running saturation test on the pipe, plz nao & in future ~announce prior~, ty.
mircea_popescu: very unlikely anyone's doing such a thing. you're prolly being attacked or w/e.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is entirely possible, i have not yet looked in detail.
asciilifeform: just nao wrapped up setting up realtime voltages/temperatures/etc output.
asciilifeform: the req still stands tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if ddos, then nao as good time as any, it hasn't afaik yet been tested, how said pipe behaves under ddos.
mircea_popescu: sure.
asciilifeform: so far i've uncovered 0 that would reveal why box reset. but i expect before nightfall to find out, if iron is indeed misbehaving.
mircea_popescu: what's the book on that ?
asciilifeform: hm?
mircea_popescu: i'd like to lay a bet :D
asciilifeform: i hate to disappoint mircea_popescu , but i'm all outta sheep for the haruspexy room, so cannot give odds lol
asciilifeform: now, elsewhere in conveyor :
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886533 << this is not only troo but is how one tests a m-r ( you feed it known liars & known troofers for a particular N and verify output ) ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 21:13 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-11#1886376 << with some caveats as to how "unrelated" (in the m-r sense of the term) those candidates must be, as it's entirely possible to generate an infinite set of lying witnesses for any composite number.
asciilifeform: which is why mine reads witness as param rather than directly from rng
asciilifeform: at all times operator must be able to verify that m-r behaves as m-r.
asciilifeform: and indeed the quality of rng is 'jesus bolt' when running m-r in battlefield.
asciilifeform: ( recall, diana_coman uncovered various lulz re koch's variant )
asciilifeform: i'ma detail this subj in the customary pedantic detail in ch16 article.
asciilifeform: ( readers should also prepare themselves for following proof of why m-r worx, i'ma not simply cite the lit ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: perfect.
asciilifeform: re verifications, observe the general pattern in ffaism: i expect any serious user to have a private battery of tests to verify that his, particular, ffa builds, actually conform to the declared behaviours.
asciilifeform: incl. the rng ( this is why the thing takes an arbitrary unix path for rng dev )
asciilifeform: ( yet aaanother thing that koch didn't give )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: observe that you can trivially generate an arbitrary-long sequence of liars for any composite N.
asciilifeform: 1 interesting maffs problem , is whether you can generate a sequence of witnesses that will tell troof of compositivity for ~any~ externally supplied N , up to given bitness. ( and as i understand this q is isomorphic to bach's generalized-riemann item that diana_coman dug up. )
asciilifeform: we will not be making use of this approach tho ( it relies on conjecture . )
asciilifeform: iirc there's a sequence that nails all composites < 2^64 . so could be handy for primorial generators ( vs. eratosthenes etc ) .
asciilifeform: but again , not directly pertinent to ffalogy.
mircea_popescu: it is, we had an entire discussion then
asciilifeform: i meant bach et al.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's recommended recipe for m-rism still remains 'feed actual rng for witnesses'
asciilifeform: ( for folx who haven't yet read diana_coman's series -- the theorem diana_coman turned up, turns m-r into a deterministic ('aks but fast') test, iff generalized-riemann )
asciilifeform: found the old mircea_popescu thread, btw : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722906 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 19:15 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220161766_Constructing_Carmichael_Numbers_which_are_Strong_Pseudoprimes_to_Several_Bases (guy named arnault gave example of number for which all tests up to ~300 were misleading)
asciilifeform: ohai Mocky
Mocky: hiya
asciilifeform: what's new, Mocky ?
Mocky: fingers crossed maybe I get a job offer today
mod6: best of luck to ya!
Mocky: thx mod6
asciilifeform: update re uy1 : 2hrs and no anomalous readings. ( will revisit subj later tonight )
asciilifeform: in other vintage lultidbits, found while digging logs, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723504 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 16:39 asciilifeform: ... it follows that a 0.85sec 4096b modexp is all you need for a reasonable 'rsa phone' item.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/dna-pioneer-james-watson-stripped-of-chancellor-emeritus-title-over-afropessimism/ << Qntra -- DNA Pioneer James Watson Stripped Of Chancellor Emeritus Title Over Afropessimism
BingoBoingo: Latest old man dekulakized
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ha, i had nfi he still had any epaulettes or buttons to rip off
BingoBoingo: Well he had the symbolic "any key" that wasn't connected to anything
mircea_popescu: "afropessimism" actually great coinage.
asciilifeform: aka afrorealism..
mircea_popescu: never anything else.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why they're so butthurt by the ~statistical~ fact. just because average black is going to be dumber than average human doesn't say any one black person's gonna be dumb or anything like that.
mircea_popescu: they're not very appreciably butthurt at all by how average whitey's gonna undertest average "azn" aka chinese.
asciilifeform: there also butthurt
asciilifeform: !#s qntra harvard
a111: 3 results for "qntra harvard", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=qntra%20harvard
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-18#1826418 << item ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 15:51 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/06/harvard-exposed-systemically-discriminating-against-asian-applicants/ << Qntra - Harvard Exposed Systemically Discriminating Against Asian Applicants
asciilifeform: & elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i guess my unexamined impression is otherwise.
Mocky: they think in terms of nanny state policies and what policies statistical facts would imply
mircea_popescu: but hence my objection ? turning a blind eye to all the chowdrys taking over bureaucracy while crying bloody murder over ~explanation~ as to why first black president === worst president ever ?
mircea_popescu: something dun wash.
Mocky: if they are gonna look at afrofacts, what next, look at femfacts?
mircea_popescu: so somehow "you can't run for city council, you're not 2nd gen azn immigrant" not quite as threatening as "you're fat because you eat too much and never get off ass" ?
asciilifeform: the chowdhrys are, as i currently understand, the vaisya/sudra-heavy wave of emigres & their nth gen, largely content with 'middling' ranks, the native usg.brahmin spawn dun want these
mircea_popescu: so basically they imagine they're getting a buncha eunuchs outta the deal ?
asciilifeform: same way they dun want into the academitardia racket ( when asciilifeform grunted in the ranks of said racket, was often the 1 euro face in the group pics.. )
mircea_popescu: i dunno, at this juncture i'm starting to suspect attemtping rational analysis is eminently wrong approach, not like it's a rational process.
asciilifeform: i was aboutta say
asciilifeform: it aint clear to me that 'they think' is a valid hypothesis, period
asciilifeform: they , in words of al schwartz, 'hind gut ferment'. they metabolize, but no thinking is necessarily involved
mircea_popescu: set of fashionable howls.
mircea_popescu: cuz they're a buncha fash dorks, what.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so basically they imagine they're getting a buncha eunuchs outta the deal ? << I suspect this is an element of it.
BingoBoingo: Then there's the trying to expensively defend cheap respect for "all"
BingoBoingo: In other updates Pizarro www now has selection js in place when viewing individual blog entries
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: confirmed, worx, a++
BingoBoingo: ty for the confirmation
asciilifeform: in other olds, 'The 256-bit integer q = (2x + 1)(4x + 1) with x = 0x400286bac15132db85b1c936709f369b passes 15 rounds of GMP’s primality test mpz_is_probab_prime_p...' ( Albrecht et al, aug. 2018 , https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/749.pdf / http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3QLGp/?raw=true )
asciilifeform: ^ spoiler: gmp uses prng for witness gen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: after ffa is fielded, i'ma add gmp etc carmichaelisms to phuctor.
asciilifeform: would be surprised if it doesn't yield a couple thou lulz.
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea.
asciilifeform: there's a 1024bit example in that piece, and coupla others
asciilifeform: in other noose, 6hrs of reactor^H^H^Huy1 gauge , and 0 anomalies
asciilifeform at this rate might end up adding a 7th lcd to the wall..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you keep a kernel hash or anything that'd expose a case of http://qntra.net/2019/01/el-chapo-allegedly-used-voip-had-sysadmin-flipped-by-criminal-fbi/ ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed i do
asciilifeform: i can't picture that any literate folx don't
mircea_popescu: and it's negative ?
asciilifeform: to date.
mircea_popescu: so canary yes, k10temp no ?
asciilifeform: i like to hash e.g. raid card biosen, etc., also
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far all i know is that the thing rebooted without sanction, no fewer than 3x.
asciilifeform: (in span of 2 day)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo reports intact seals.
asciilifeform: even if i turn up nuffin in next day or 2, i'ma have at least 1 moar planned reset, see whether ben_vulpes remembered to enable eccism when he plugged the thing in
asciilifeform: for some reason it is usually switched off by default on a new bios battery
asciilifeform: ( why , i cannot begin to fathom )
asciilifeform: for comparison, the 1 time dulap-III rebooted without sanction, was in may, when BingoBoingo elbowed the mains cable